Have You Heard? In this week’s shorter episode, the crew chats with Jason Loeliger, owner of Devil Mountain Diesel, and the Ford driver featured in the viral Raptor vs. Wrangler video, known for its crash landing. Proudly sponsored by Nissan in association with Banks Power, this is The Truck Show Podcast.



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Sean P. Holman (0s):

Hey, lighting, Have, You, Heard.

Intro (2s):

How about No?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4s):


Intro (6s):

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Sean P. Holman (43s):

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Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 3s):

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Intro (1m 27s):

This is the show where they talk breaking news. And This is the part where Coleman has Lightning Have, You Heard.

Sean P. Holman (1m 34s):

Hey, lighting. Have, You, Heard.

Intro (1m 36s):

Oh, hell no.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 39s):


Sean P. Holman (1m 40s):

Well, I bet if you were there, you heard it.

Intro (1m 43s):

Oh. no. Oh. no. Boy.

Sean P. Holman (1m 55s):

The guy at the end is he makes the video.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 57s):

Oh boy. I don’t know if that was Brian Scott or who that voice was, but I don Dunno. But I’d have to go back. And so if you guys had seen the Hogan video this, well,

Sean P. Holman (2m 5s):

20 million of you have. Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 6s):

This versus that, or this or that. It’s, it’s a competition series. Or was the competition series? This might’ve been the last one. Jason was driving a Raptor and he went off a jump, I think a little faster than maybe he expected to. And he aired this Raptor And it landed on the flat. If

Sean P. Holman (2m 26s):

You haven’t seen this video, go to at truck Show Podcast Instagram to reels. You’ll see it on there. It is something that you have to watch.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 34s):

Here’s the audio right after he lands and the medics run over to him. Listen carefully. You’re gonna hear his, his Apple Watch start barking at him.

Intro (2m 47s):

9 1 1. The owner of this Apple Watch was in a severe car crash and coming to their watch. Hey, stop my watch from calling my wife, please.

Sean P. Holman (2m 56s):


Intro (2m 59s):

What happened happened.

Sean P. Holman (3m 0s):

I wanna get him on the phone right now ’cause I have to know more.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 4s):

Dialing Jason Loller up in Walnut Creek, California.

Jason (3m 15s):

Hey, it’s Jason Jason

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 17s):

Lightning and Holman Truck. Show Podcast. How you doing?

Sean P. Holman (3m 19s):

What’s up fall

Jason (3m 20s):

Guy? Good man. Fall

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 21s):

Guy. How are you?

Sean P. Holman (3m 23s):


Jason (3m 24s):

Doing good, man. I’ve been, I’ve been called worse. We’re

Sean P. Holman (3m 26s):

We’re, I, I just want to know how tall a guy are you today versus how tall a guy you were a few weeks ago?

Jason (3m 33s):

Well, you know, as a big tall five 10 kind of guy, you know, I, I’m definitely five, nine and three quarter, probably least

Sean P. Holman (3m 41s):

Six. Alright,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 43s):

We got a lot of questions to ask you. Jason, Hold on. We’ve got a quick jingle to play first. Yep. Don’t move.

Jason (3m 47s):

Okay, here we go.

Intro (3m 51s):

Truck, famous, hero star, VIP, ACE Bigwig. Hot Shot Truck. Famous Big shot. Big deal. Big Gun, big cheese. Heavyweight Superstar Truck. Famous. That’s what you’re

Sean P. Holman (4m 2s):

All, right? So which one of those do you think he is?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 5s):

Truck famous Big

Sean P. Holman (4m 6s):

Cheese, big Ace Superstar. I think he’s superstar off heavyweight. I wanna just point out that we completely stole the video in question and reposted it on the truck. Show Podcast as a reel. Your antics have single handedly added about 30,000 people to our Instagram, so we appreciate that.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 26s):

Does it hurt when you hear this audio Jason?

Jason (4m 32s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 35s):

That’s Jason.

Jason (4m 38s):

Yeah, that’s, that’s, I remember that Oh. no,

Sean P. Holman (4m 42s):

You do actually remember that All, right? So that, that reel right now on our Instagram with a lot, I’m, I’m guessing This is the, the, the cumulative number, 19.4 million views. So

Jason (4m 57s):

On, on your, on your page.

Sean P. Holman (4m 59s):

Well, we, we don don’t know if we shared it or what, but that’s the total

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 3s):

That is, I think you remixed it. So This is the original. This is the

Sean P. Holman (5m 6s):

Original. Yeah, that’s,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 7s):

That’s cumulative with all the Hogan stuff and all that. 20

Sean P. Holman (5m 10s):

20 million people do love that. Yeah. So I mean that that’s probably worth ruining your truck.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 16s):


Jason (5m 17s):

Well, you know, you know,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 19s):

So, so Jason, for those that don’t know, you were asked to play along and drive in a jump to flat contest. don don’t know if that’s what it was called, but it was a recent Hoot Degan video a couple weeks ago now, and you famously jumped too

Sean P. Holman (5m 35s):

Far. Well, Hold on. So let’s, let’s set the stage. There’s a starting gate and there was a series of massive hills, not whoops, but like hills where you air out and you, and you were doing it against the Dixie Off Road, I believe Wrangler JL and yeah, Bryce. Yep. Yep. And they both looked like on Landing it was bad. Well then Bryce did it again. And. it was really bad.

Jason (5m 59s):

You know, the intention is basically, you know, imagine a straight line drag strip off-road version. Some big, big jumps. Theoretically it was the first one across the finish line wins. You know, the reality is I had had one practice run at it, went great as you hear in the video, you know, basically I’m getting coached up on do exactly the same thing. And things went a little different in the second run, which was the, you know, which everyone has seen by now. And at the end of the day, it wasn’t exactly as I drew it up. But ultimately at

Sean P. Holman (6m 29s):

This point,

Jason (6m 30s):

You know, I kind of, I’m, it’s part of who I am. I, you know, I’m that guy. I, like I said, I’d rather go big and and limp home than not go big at all kind of thing, you know? And I walked away and I can live to tell the story and that’s what I really care about. So

Sean P. Holman (6m 44s):

Now, the thing that was the most amazing to me is, so anybody who owns a Ford knows that Ford is a notorious for having their inertia activated fuel cutoff. So if anytime you get in an accident, it’ll turn your fuel off. So a lot of us will go offroading. Those of us who have particularly have enjoyed the nineties and 2000 vintage Fords and push them past their design limits, have often tried to solve why our truck randomly stopped running in the middle of the trail after a whoop series. And, and that’s why. And that’s why, okay, but it’s, it’s, I’m not gonna say it’s funny. I mean, it’s funny to me. It’s probably less funny than Jason, but watching the video, you, you sort of land it and then it just looks like it dies on the hill.

Sean P. Holman (7m 25s):

Like, so what you, you took, you hit the jump, you’re sailing through the air majestically, you’re looking around, the angels are singing on high, there’s a, a rainbow farting unicorn, like next to you, puffy white clouds. And then all of a sudden it turns, boom. I felt like it’s those old, remember those lawn dart games? You throw ’em in the air and then you, they try to stick. Absolutely. Is that what you were trying to replicate

Jason (7m 50s):

Again, not by design.

Sean P. Holman (7m 52s):

No, I was to go,

Jason (7m 54s):

I was trying to go real fast. And the honestly honest truth, I didn’t think the truck would go and pick up that much speed from the starting line to the lip of that first jump. And I was at GoPro stated 53 miles an hour at takeoff. And I really, I didn’t think, you know, the truck basically makes stock Raptor horsepower, which is plenty of power. But ultimately I didn’t think it’d go that fast in that short of a distance. And I was in, you know, I was in Baja mode, which is, anyone who drives a Raptor knows that that makes you like Superman. And

Sean P. Holman (8m 23s):

Ultimately, you know what’s funny about the story, the cues. His Raptor literally said to him, hold my beer. Right? I got this. Yeah, I got this.

Jason (8m 32s):

Oh, the Raptor the Raptor took care of me though. I, there’s no question about that. Nobody, nobody walks away from that in, in just your average truck. No

Sean P. Holman (8m 40s):

Way. That’s a no

Jason (8m 40s):

Way. That’s a testament to Ford. That’s a solid piece.

Sean P. Holman (8m 43s):

What was the suspension that you had on it?

Jason (8m 46s):

So that truck is, is in my opinion, basically as far as you can go with sort of a what would be classified as a stock suspension build.

Sean P. Holman (8m 53s):

So stock mounting points. Okay,

Jason (8m 56s):

Yeah. Yeah. So it had three oh, Fox FRS live valve suspension, right? So the bigger remote Resy shocks front and rear internal bypass. and then I run a what’s a, an ECL or an SDI built computer control dampening system on that truck. And ultimately that truck to me runs Des in the back for, for Leaf Springs. And then I’m running, I box in the front. And ultimately that truck is amazing daily driver off-Road in the desert doing everything I’ve ever thrown at it. But at the end of the day, when you take 6,000 pounds and throw it that high up in the air and then drop it on a flat, it doesn’t really matter what It is. Something’s gonna give. And, and kind of interestingly enough, the truck kind of bent in a few spots, but it really didn’t break to the testament that I drove that truck home the next day, eight hours home from Teec Temecula to Northern California.

Jason (9m 45s):

So I was

Sean P. Holman (9m 46s):

Gonna ask you about that. Is is the, basically the aftermath. So just so people know, this is basically a second generation Raptor. So first generation of a 23 5 gigs.

Jason (9m 56s):

20 20 20, okay.

Sean P. Holman (9m 57s):

Yep. And so that truck is, with all the mods you have on there, especially with the Fox three point ohs and the Deavers is a supremely capable street legal vehicle. I mean, it’s, it’s almost stupid how capable that truck is with the Mazda that you had on it.

Jason (10m 14s):

Totally agree.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 15s):

And so many backstory questions I wanna get to ’cause so we know that you ate it and landed hard And it like a

Sean P. Holman (10m 21s):

Pancake, right?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 22s):

Like a pancake. It belly flop. It looked like something you’d see a, a trophy truck. Do they land like a pillow? This did not like land like a pillow. No,

Sean P. Holman (10m 31s):

No. It landed like a, a pillow. It was a rebound that took care of

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 33s):

It. The rebound. Yes, exactly. And, and, and so, but I wanna back up. Before you even started this, did you get a call from Brian Scotto or how did this work? And,

Sean P. Holman (10m 42s):

And why did you say yes?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 43s):

Why did you say yes? How did this all who where, what’s your backstory? ’cause you’re Bay Area Raptor, so you do Raptor stuff. How did they find you? I do. How did you end up on camera?

Jason (10m 54s):

So I’m, I’m an auto tech by trade. I spent 10 years at the Ford dealership. I’m a Diesel mechanic by trade. That’s what I learned to do when I was younger. Ultimately, I have a shop in the Bay Area called Devil Mountain Diesel, which is the home of Bay Area Raptor. I’ve been interested in the Off-road community since I was young and my first trip to Baja many, many years ago. And ultimately that kinda lit a spark for me. And so of late in the last recent past, we’ve been doing a lot of Raptor things as we venture out into that off-road space, in addition to our regular super duties and just domestic Diesel stuff we do every day. And so Barry Raptor was born, the long story short about how I ended up there is I have a very good friend who lives back east and he got the phone call, he has a TRX and he got the phone call and they said, Hey, you know, we need you to do this event.

Jason (11m 46s):

And ultimately he was out of town for his, you know, his wedding Anniversary and So. it was a hard, you know, couldn’t do it. And he said, but I got a buddy, my number got forwarded. And ultimately when I got the call from, I didn’t get the call from the talent, I got the call from people that actually make it happen. And So, I got the invite, And, it was a pretty vague sort of, Hey, we’re gonna do a Hogan’s thing. It’s gonna be in Southern, California. Here’s a rough sort of four day window. And ultimately I’m a small business. I’m, I pretend I know what I’m doing on the internet, but the reality is, is that marketing is hard to come by.

Jason (12m 26s):

And so when Hogan calls, I knew enough to know it was a, a place I wanted to be a and a, a group of people I wanted to be associated with at, at all possible. As somebody who’s grown up kind of in this industry, ultimately you hear Hogans y you know, you think all the things that come with Jim Kana and, and all the people and the amazing videos of productions that have ever been made. Of course I said yes. So mind you, when I got the phone call, my truck was in a thousand pieces from my prior trip to Nevada that summer. So I had to finish putting the truck back together, which thanks to SCI and ECL down in Southern, California, I picked up an FRS on the way down the day before that, they had just finished overhauling for me, put it on the truck and showed up on a, that was a Wednesday.

Jason (13m 13s):

And you know, I’ve never filmed anything before. And So I got this, what I think it’s called a call time or something for the TV people out there. And basically it’s a window when you’re just supposed to be there. I get some GPS coordinates to this private track off the dirt road, off the main highway out in the middle of BFEI show up and I have no idea I’m by myself in my truck. And that was, again, validates, I had no idea what I was actually gonna do. Jason,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 40s):

This was an episode of this or that? Or was this something else?

Jason (13m 43s):

No, this was this versus that We filmed. Okay. So they were filming all the episodes that have aired were filmed over a three day period that week in the end of July of last year. And So I show up on a Wednesday. And basically by the time I got there, I think I was supposed to be there at two o’clock or something. And I got there at 11 or something in the morning. And, and guys were running and So I got to watch a few of the, the guys go head to head before me. And I was, honestly, I was trying to learn what the hell these guys were doing and what the track looked like and just trying to, you know, make the most out of my, you know, time to be there and try to, you know, rub shoulders with guys that are much more capable and skilled than I am.

Jason (14m 23s):

And, and so It was great and so got to spend time with, with all the crew and, and kind of the guys and, and just sort of be around it. And I mean they fed us. And we had, there was a trailer And, it was, it was a thousand degrees. It was like hotter than the fires of hell that day in Temecula So it was pretty largely uncomfortable minus the fact that they had coolers full of drinks and waters and, and they were taking care of us, which was great. And so got the call at, at at probably somewhere around four o’clock is kind of my memory of what time was

Sean P. Holman (14m 55s):

Looks, looks like bad. If you look at the, the golden hour sun angle knowing that it’s January or whatever, it’s, yeah, it looks like it’s late in the day. I will say if you are watching your truck fly, I, I have say I’m impressed by this. It generally stayed nose high, although it, it, it, it tilted toward the driver’s side and I think that’s what whacked you is the fact that the driver front came down hard and first

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 21s):

And the steering Wheel whipped as well.

Jason (15m 24s):

Well that truck, my truck has always flown for the record, I only weigh about 200 pounds, but my truck has always flown Driver down five,

Sean P. Holman (15m 33s):

10, the 200

Jason (15m 34s):


Sean P. Holman (15m 35s):

He’s like us. Yeah, he is.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 36s):

He’s one of

Sean P. Holman (15m 37s):

Us. Yeah, he’s one of us.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 39s):

Hold on say wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Pause. Hey Jason, have you ever eaten at Wiener Schnitzel

Sean P. Holman (15m 44s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 45s):

Say yes, please say yes, please say yes,

Jason (15m 47s):

I’m sure. Yes. I’m sure I have in

Sean P. Holman (15m 49s):

My life. Whataburger or Inn Out?

Jason (15m 52s):

Oh God Inn out for sure. I’m

Sean P. Holman (15m 53s):

The through and through. Okay.

Jason (15m 56s):

Whataburger’s Trash

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 58s):

Waffle House or Cracker Barrel? No, no, not, no, it’s Waffle House or

Sean P. Holman (16m 2s):

International house. Pancakes. Yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 4s):


Jason (16m 6s):

Oh, ihop. Yes.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 7s):


Sean P. Holman (16m 8s):

Yes. Yes. Yes. Damn. He’s my man. Damn. Damn it. He’s my

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 10s):


Sean P. Holman (16m 10s):

All, right? Dr. Pepper or

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 12s):

Coke Do

Jason (16m 12s):

Another? Come on let’s Oh, for Jason Durham, Dr. Pepper. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (16m 16s):

Yeah. We have a Dr. Pepper

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 18s):

Fridge in the, in the podcast studio.

Sean P. Holman (16m 19s):

Yeah, that’s, that’s true. We do have a Dr. Pepper fridge gifted by one of our, our listeners when we built the studio.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 25s):

You, so you shot this last July,

Jason (16m 28s):

July 23rd. It wasn’t

Sean P. Holman (16m 30s):

That long ago.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 30s):

Okay, so Hogan all good back then. Today Hogan is a, a, a

Sean P. Holman (16m 38s):

Wheel company. Well it’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 39s):

A, it’s a Wheel

Sean P. Holman (16m 40s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 41s):

Pale limitation on itself.

Jason (16m 42s):

Well they were, they were a Wheel company then

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 45s):

They had just become a Wheel company. Wheel.

Jason (16m 46s):

Yeah. Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 48s):

So I’m wondering, you are like,

Sean P. Holman (16m 50s):

So did they replace your bent rims?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 52s):

No, I’m asking does like you were one of the last episodes. No, they

Sean P. Holman (16m 55s):

Didn’t. Oh, interesting. You

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 57s):

Were one of the last episodes of like, what was, I

Jason (16m 59s):

Didn’t, I didn’t bend the rims by the way, for the record. My ri are straight as narrow. Those are innovates from Jason outta Southern, California. Those are absolutely forged wheels. Didn’t miss a beat. Nice So

Sean P. Holman (17m 9s):

I like to hear that. Yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 11s):

Yeah. Innovate or for the so for the ballers. Yeah. They’re strong. You didn’t know that Hogan would like implode, right. Scotto leaves and hurt leaves and, and all the key guys. Right. And now, now, so you were like on the, on the tail end of the Hogan Greatness.

Jason (17m 27s):

I might be the end. I could have been. They, I might be the reason why Wheel Pros doesn’t do the series anymore. That’s I fair. I could see corporate America not wanting to put on that sort of liability. Had I really hurt myself and really been, you know, like a lot of people in this world and just sued the ever-loving bejesus out of Wheel pros, which I could have done. You can do I mean a non, you know, the, the release of liability in California doesn’t matter, right. You can sue anybody for anything. And so ultimately I wouldn’t be surprised if they never put the event on again, which would be sad. I think there’s a lot to it and I think that, I think there was a lot of good people involved and I think you can really make made some amazing content I mean I know they, they got what, you know, they

Sean P. Holman (18m 12s):


Jason (18m 12s):

Content and

Sean P. Holman (18m 13s):

I’m nervous.

Jason (18m 14s):

Why are you nervous?

Sean P. Holman (18m 14s):

Because I don’t want you to be the exclamation point of this show.

Jason (18m 19s):

Oh, do you think I’m that guy?

Sean P. Holman (18m 20s):

Yeah. don don’t know. I’m starting to put the pieces together and I’m starting to wonder. So last episode, yeah, they’ll go downhill from here. They all, well I mean they’ve been going downhill for a while, so Yeah. All, right? Jason a question for you. You are now returning to the earth. You’re coming in hard, you’re coming in hot, you’re thinking inside your mind, oh shit, you hit the ground, your initial thought because you lost a few parts, but then you, once it kind of augered on the next hill, you were able to drive off the hill. Were you thinking, do I have my 10 fingers and toes? Were you thinking this holy crap, this thing’s still drivable? Were you thinking, what did I do? I gotta explain to my wife like, like what is the chain of events that happened upon landing?

Jason (19m 3s):

Well let, okay, first and foremost, when you watch that video, when I hit the ground, I, I’m, I’m in siesta mode for a period of time. And so when you watch the video, the easy way to think about It is from Landing until I run over the last fuel sign that vertical flag they have.

Sean P. Holman (19m 24s):

Yeah. That they were marking the edges of the course. Yes. You were unconscious.

Jason (19m 29s):

I was just relaxing at a deep state of, you know, he was

Sean P. Holman (19m 34s):


Jason (19m 34s):

Relaxation at that moment. So ultimately that weird sort of driving, you talked about your inertia switch cutting out and that kind of stuff. That was sort of, that wasn’t, that was a third party or my greater, you know, my, my spirit animal or whatever was doing that. And then, then I’ll, I’ll be perfectly honest with you, somebody, I’ve had people ask me, you know, what were you thinking? Or did you know where you were? And I, I So, I instantly knew I knew exactly where I was and I’ll be, for better or for worse, super honest about it. I, I didn I literally was in my head thinking maybe nobody saw that. Play it cool, we’ll just kinda limp off the track and then we’ll get ready to go again. Right.

Jason (20m 14s):

That was, that was, wow. The inner dialogue in my head was maybe it’ll buff out.

Sean P. Holman (20m 21s):

My dad’s got a rat set of tools wasn’t, you know.

Jason (20m 23s):

Right. You know, it it wasn’t that big. It was maybe they didn’t see kind of thing. Maybe it’ll be cool like just sort of, you know, and, and then from there it was pretty apparent. You guys probably seen Talladega Nights with

Sean P. Holman (20m 35s):

Bobby. Oh, oh yeah, of course. Yeah. Sweet baby Jesus, Oprah help me.

Jason (20m 39s):

Yeah, he, he kind of thinks he’s on fire In one scene. Yes. He’s running around his underwear with his helmet on. Well I did my best impersonation of that after I stopped and I was talking to the medic and obviously the adrenaline was off the charts in addition to being, you know, relatively concussed, you know. And so at that point I had some really, and I, I have some audio that was on recorded on my stuff. It, that is pretty spectacular because I have this running dialogue going with the crew and with the people and the medic and the medic’s wife. They were lovely people and they took amazing care of me. But ultimately, yeah, so that was kind of the sort of the after So, it wasn’t much thought other than, hey maybe nobody saw.

Jason (21m 21s):

And then ultimately once it was apparent that I had been seen and they, you know, from there was getting the medic card ’cause we’re gonna, you know, you need to get checked out. So,

Sean P. Holman (21m 30s):

And and were you, other than being con concussed, were you okay otherwise?

Jason (21m 36s):

Yeah, So I got the, in the video, one of my favorite moments is when I’m talking with Zach and Scotto at the end and we’re talking about the cavity search that I got at the hospital. And so after the ambulance ride they take me down to the trauma center in Temecula and we get there and, and don’t get me wrong, there was a, a period of time in there I was a little less sure about my condition and then as the ride went on And it was pretty apparent I was gonna be fine. And we got to the trauma center and I got the full cat scan, the CT scan, the, you know, the cavity check the whole deal, the whole nine. And they released me two hours later. I was fine. So yeah,

Sean P. Holman (22m 17s):

But let’s be honest, the cavity check was just because the doctor was curious. Care.

Jason (22m 22s):

Well I, I actually there’s a box. I don’t, maybe next time you guys go into the ER you can check the box. It’s optional. So if you guys were into that or whatever.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 30s):

No. Didn’t you, I thought you, I thought you like sprained something. Didn’t you come out with a cast or something on your arm?

Jason (22m 35s):

Nope. Oh? no, I had wrist bracelets on no wrist brace, not a thing. Got it, okay. No, no broken bones. No, it’s interesting. There was a lot of chatter on the internet about my wrist. ’cause when I land, my wrist goes in kind of an interesting position. There’s nothing I had, there was no broken bones. No any I mean wild? Nothing physically with me at that point. Yeah. Oh for sure. 100%. And that’s, I I I will be grateful and I, I’ve told people I, I’ll drive a Ford rafter till I am really not capable of driving anymore ’cause it’s that kind of truck I’ll take some

Sean P. Holman (23m 5s):

Would argue family off argue. You’re not capable of driving one now.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 7s):

I don’t think so. Now what

Jason (23m 8s):

This is true. Some might have that stance.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 10s):

Ja Jason what mate, what concussed you like, did you hit your head on the steering Wheel did was the compression of your spine or you didn’t have a five point harness right? The B pillar

Jason (23m 19s):

Or the B No, Uhuh. I, but I had my, I had a, a bell, I had my full face helmet on that I wear in those when I drag race or when I do that kind of stuff. And So, I hit it on the B pillar when the seat track caved I went into the B pillar. Okay, that makes sense. So when the left front tire came down and, and then that was kinda all she wrote at that point.

Sean P. Holman (23m 37s):

So let’s take inventory truck goes on a trailer or you said you drove it back, you drive it back to the shop. Nope.

Jason (23m 42s):

You drove it, drove it home. Okay.

Sean P. Holman (23m 43s):


Jason (23m 43s):

It home. I duct taped the fenders on all I did. Honest to God truth, I duct taped the fenders on. I took it, you know, as I drove it from, I had all the guys, all the crew Scotto, Zach, everybody signed my Fender. It’s literally one of my awesome greatest pieces I own in my life. So I that’s up in my shop. But they signed my fender and I duct taped all the fenders onto the truck so they would stay. and then I took it. I did the 32 point inspection in the local gas station and basically it was all still sorted together and I jumped on I five and and headed home, drove home with air conditioner on and the whole deal. I’ve parked the truck once I got back to the shop, left it my shop and just parked it. ’cause I didn’t know what the video was gonna do.

Jason (24m 23s):

I didn’t know, you know, I just, I had no reason to just rush into, I had already done enough and So I didn’t have any reason to just jump into it. I had other stuff, other projects that were going So, I just parked it and I waited as best I could until that video came out before I started talking about it. And since then I’ve, I put some big, like my two plus two a DV fiberglass fenders on the front. So I could drive it. And I took the other fenders off, I replaced the C track and I’ve been daily in it for the last, you know, kind of don don’t know, middle of December and So. it is by no means cherry, but It is also totally drivable.

Jason (25m 6s):

It’s funny, I threw it on the alignment rack and the alignment is straight minus two degrees of camera on the, on the passenger side. Wow. I drove that, that that Raptor red stripe on the steering. Wheel is straight and I mean straight from the drive home all the way up five And. it makes some interesting noises and there’s, you know, some stuff happening there and, and the frame is by no means correct, but It is absolutely drivable. It is, you know, like I said, I’ve been driving it every day and so we’re slating and I’ve got a bunch of great partners on board. ’cause I’m gonna, I’m gonna rebuild it. I’m gonna make it, I’m gonna make it right again. I have a frame from another Raptor project here and I’ve got a bunch of great vendors on board.

Jason (25m 47s):

Everyone from next in tires to lock offroad wheels. I’ve got RPG is on board. We’re working with kind of figuring out what we’re gonna do with the suspension. I’ve had a great relationship with the offroad revolution guys that are back east and we’re gonna, I’m gonna, I’m hoping to get the truck to Durham Town this year. I don’t know if you guys are familiar with that event. No, no. So they do a, they’re, the offroad revolution is basically a bunch of guys that are basically trying to build a Raptor race series or an off-road truck race series back there on some of their tracks. They have. And Durham Town is outside of, outside of Atlanta. And basically it’s a, it’s a big boy closed course racetrack for your Raptor for your modified F-150 or whatever you drive.

Jason (26m 29s):

And they hold an event there every year. That’s huge with the Raptor community back east. And, and so we’re trying to get the truck built and get it back there for that later on this summer. And ultimately I’m gonna keep driving that truck just as long as I can. And I’ve got a bunch of great, a lot of great people I’ve met through the event and people that are interested in, you know, putting that truck back together and partnering up and you know, SPDs making an exhaust for it right now. And we’ve got just great relationships. And this call is no different don don’t know you guys, but it’s cool enough that we can get together and chat about trucks. ’cause obviously you guys are into trucks. I’m into trucks and you know, that’s been super cool and the people I’ve met and the relationships I’ve already started is tremendous I.

Jason (27m 10s):

mean And. it sounds stupid. I’m just a dude, right? I’m just a guy. But you know, when you’ve got, I had Lauren Healy one night, literally love that guy. Had a conversation right? Had a conversation with me on my couch about trucks and I’m like, Lauren Healy is like a hero, right? I had Aaron Kaufman from Gas Monkey Garage,

Sean P. Holman (27m 28s):

Another good dude that we we love. Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (27m 30s):

We’ve had both on both on the show bunch,

Jason (27m 32s):

Right? And just the fact that they would engage me as just, just, and just to have a, just a simple exchange of, of just cars and, and ultimately car guys are generally speaking really good dudes. And, and it’s nice to be able to get past some of the other things. And this event has really helped me to get to take down some of those barriers and get to know some people a little bit more. And ultimately it’s been really great and so love it. That’s been super cool.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (27m 59s):

I have a question, Jason, why not step up into the new r the Raptor r supercharge, get a, get a bunch more ponies under the hood.

Jason (28m 7s):

Well I’m, I am, I’m working on manifesting and so I’m okay if Ford wants to get involved in

Sean P. Holman (28m 13s):


Jason (28m 14s):

My, my rehabilitation, but I also, I’m a big boy, right? I took my truck off that jump all by myself. Ford didn’t make me, Hogans didn’t make me do that. I did it all on my own behalf. And so the best way that I know how to kind of do this is to involve the relationships I have through my business and through my life to, to make it whole again. And ultimately I can’t afford to go down and write a check at the Ford dealer for an hour. I just can’t. And at the end of the day, there’s more for me in learning all the things that happened and about how to fix them. So when my customers, and so when guys come in and say, Hey, you know, my truck does this, I can say, Hey this, this is why.

Jason (28m 58s):

And I can also say, and

Sean P. Holman (28m 59s):

Your first question is, did you jump it? He goes, no, it’s never been off road. You’re like, sure.

Jason (29m 3s):

It’s it’s light. Lightly used lightly.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (29m 6s):


Sean P. Holman (29m 6s):

I tell people I know what I have. Don’t low ball me

Jason (29m 7s):

Used, you know, it’s only

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (29m 9s):

Slightly salvaged.

Jason (29m 11s):

Yeah. It’s not salvaged if you don’t claim it on your insurance. Let’s get that straight. Right.

Sean P. Holman (29m 15s):

Well we, we, you know, we love meeting you, we love watching your your rise from those ashes. But you know, talking about meeting people who love trucks, you know, a lot of times we have, you know, times where we might need a Diesel tech on the podcast as an expert. So maybe we will keep you I love it in the queue for that. ’cause we’d love to have you back on. Dude

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (29m 35s):

Had been biting my tongue. I have so many Diesel questions I want to ask him. So I don’t even know if he knows that I work at Banks. Do you know Gale Banks?

Jason (29m 43s):

Of course

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (29m 44s):

I do. So I. I I run the marketing

Sean P. Holman (29m 46s):

Department that that’s lighting’s day

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (29m 47s):

Job. That’s what I do for a day job. So I. Love it. so we should, we should talk about Diesel some other a time. What’s next? You’re going to get this, you’re gonna put the, the the new fenders on. You’re gonna take it to the race back east. And then are you gonna go for a bigger jump? So

Jason (30m 0s):

I? Don’t know. You know, it’s funny. You, you, you do something like this and from a content perspective people, you’re gonna follow it up. Well ultimately I have really no intention of going, you know, I keep people talk about 150 feet or however far that jump was to flat. I am all for a big launch and a big send. I just want something with a little more Landing, you know,

Sean P. Holman (30m 22s):


Jason (30m 22s):

Slope is all I’m really looking for. You know, at the end of the day, I, I don’t know, I kind of check that box if you will. I have no problem jumping the truck or any of that stuff

Sean P. Holman (30m 31s):

Starting line for

Jason (30m 31s):

Me. Check, launch,

Sean P. Holman (30m 33s):

Check, flight, check. Right. Landing right. Needs improvement. Yeah.

Jason (30m 37s):

Gotta work on that. Yeah. But the other thing that we’re actually doing and, and maybe you guys are familiar with the Factory five racing, the guys that made Oh yeah. Cover

Sean P. Holman (30m 44s):

Kick cards. Yeah. They got their cool new tube chassis.

Jason (30m 47s):

Yeah, I I have one. I’m building chassis six.

Sean P. Holman (30m 49s):

Oh bitch. We, we are actually gonna have them on the show. So that’s, that’s awesome to know. So

Jason (30m 53s):

That’s, that’s how I have this spare Raptor frame got It is because I used a Raptor as a donor truck and so the frame from that Raptor is the one I’m gonna put in my Raptor. Oh there you go. So So I have an XTF that’s almo. I literally was putting carbon fiber on it today. I’m almost, it runs and drives. I just have to finish the body panels. And, it’s got complete a DS suspension all the way around and it’s, it’s gonna be the baddest one that there is at this point. ’cause there’s only six of ’em. So that’s, that’s kind of one of the things we’re doing. That truck will probably be at SEMA. I would love to put my truck with that truck at SEMA. I ultimately think my truck is just a, I think I could put that in a booth at SEMA and put the video on repeat on the screen above it a hundred percent and I think people would Right.

Jason (31m 38s):

I think there would be interest in looking at that.

Sean P. Holman (31m 40s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (31m 41s):

I would for sure. What tires are you running or were you running at the time?

Jason (31m 44s):

Those were nitos on there.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (31m 46s):

Nito usually has a display out front. I’m sure they’re looking for vehicles. Yeah,

Jason (31m 50s):

Yeah. No, I’ve got, I’ve got my nittos my, I had nittos 37, 12 5 seventeens on there,

Sean P. Holman (31m 55s):

Which is why the offenders flew off.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (31m 59s):

Right, right.

Jason (31m 60s):

And ultimately, yeah, the, the offenders are, you know, they’re great when people do their dailies and stuff, but you know, when you do anything from that high, I don’t think it matters No. What you had on their own stock funders. So.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (32m 13s):

Well listen, Jason, we are, we’re, we’re thrilled that you’re fine. We’re thrilled that we got to watch your exploits and you walked away from it. It was great video and we’re, we’re gonna be keeping our eye on you on Instagram ’cause it’s probably the easiest So. It’s at bay underscore area. Raptor Bay Area Raptor. Alright. Jason, thank You very much for spending some time with us. We, we do appreciate it.

Jason (32m 35s):

Thank you guys. Really appreciate it. Yeah, yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (32m 37s):

Thank you. We are gonna have you on the show again. Yeah,

Sean P. Holman (32m 38s):

We had, we had a good time. We, we, we definitely gonna have you back because there’s all sorts of stuff that we can pick your brain on. I

Jason (32m 43s):

Love it. I love it. Happy to just, you guys know where to find me and thanks again.

Sean P. Holman (32m 47s):

Awesome. You got

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (32m 47s):

It. We’ll talk soon. Thanks Jason. Take care.

Sean P. Holman (32m 49s):

All. right. Bye bye. All. right. So when are you going to top him? By launching the TRX,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (32m 58s):

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