Season 2, Episode 79 - Have You Heard? Truck News, EV Trucks, RAM 1500, Recalls, Cybertruck

 

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Sean P. Holman (0s):

Hey, Lighting, Have, You Heard

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8s):

No

Recording (9s):

The truck show. We’re gonna show you what we know. We’re gonna answer What? The truck. Because Truck rides with The truck show. We have the lifted We have the lowered and everything in between. We’ll talk about trucks that run on diesel and the ones that run on gasoline. The truck show. The truck show. The truck show. Whoa Whoa. It’s The truck show with your hosts Lightning and Holman.

Sean P. Holman (46s):

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Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 6s):

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Sean P. Holman (1m 29s):

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4 (2m 2s):

No. I said no,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 4s):

I do not think so. What you got,

Sean P. Holman (2m 6s):

According to Motor one Hummer EV sales are up 83300%.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 11s):

Okay, so they sold zero to 800 and something. Now

Sean P. Holman (2m 17s):

They sold two wise guy. Okay. And that was in Q1 of 2023. And for 2024 Q1, they sold 1,668.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 27s):

That is, it’s not a good number.

Sean P. Holman (2m 30s):

Well, they ended 2023 with a total of 3,260. What,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 34s):

Do you have any idea what their plan it? It sounds like they, there’s no way they’re making money. That’s

Sean P. Holman (2m 39s):

Insane. Yeah, I don’t, I I am pretty sure they’re not making money off of those quite yet, but, but who knows? Remember the Hummer EV has a massive 246 kilowatt hour battery pack and weighs nearly 9,000 pounds. So it’s not exactly the world’s most efficient. Ev We

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 58s):

Need to check in with my buddy Brian, who owns one. I’ve not been in it yet, but he stopped by banks the other day and I was walking into a meeting. He is like, let’s go to lunch. I go, what? I, I, I did walk around. I opened all the doors, the trunk, whatnot. But I had to go in front. Yeah, whatever. No, we open every hatch and it looked really, really cool.

Sean P. Holman (3m 17s):

Oh, they’re cool, but I was

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 18s):

Dying to, so I’m gonna take a spin, but I think we need to get some real world experience

Sean P. Holman (3m 21s):

’cause I just got an invite to drive it, the SUV version in Moab, and I’m busy that week, so I won’t get a chance to get behind the Wheel. As of right

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 30s):

Now, Brian has an, he’s a real estate agent and I think he’s got an office in this area as well. Cool. So should we take him out to get some drinks and and then that’ll be our take it for a drive.

Sean P. Holman (3m 41s):

Alright, I’m in. Okay. Hey Lighting, Have, You Heard.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 45s):

No. No.

Sean P. Holman (3m 47s):

So the fuel economy ratings dropped for the brand new Ram featuring the new twin turbo straight six.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 57s):

The hurricane.

Sean P. Holman (3m 58s):

The hurricane. And those with the high output straight six actually get worse fuel economy than the outgoing V eight.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 7s):

No. No. What? Yeah, how, why? That doesn’t make any sense. This Is all about fuel economy and emissions and everything

Sean P. Holman (4m 15s):

Else. Oh yeah. Right. And

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 16s):

It’s not, wait,

Sean P. Holman (4m 17s):

What? So the high output version of the hurricane is going to have the worst fuel economy, but that has 540 horsepower and 521 pound feet of torque. It returns 15 miles per gallon city, 21 miles per gallon highway. That’s only 17 combined. Whereas the old 5.7 liter Hemi was 18 city, 22 highway and 19 combined. That’s a pretty big difference considering all the drum beating about how obsolete v eights are.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 46s):

So obviously

Sean P. Holman (4m 47s):

A lot more power. Yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 48s):

Yeah, yeah,

Sean P. Holman (4m 48s):

Yeah. Smoother.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 49s):

Listen, they’re just lighter. I mean, at the end of the day, they’re just dumping fuel in to make the power.

Sean P. Holman (4m 53s):

Well, it also requires 91 octane.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 56s):

Hmm.

Sean P. Holman (4m 56s):

So it’s more powerful ’cause the V eight was 395 horsepower and four 10. So, and This Is the high output version. Now when You look at the standard output version of the hurricane, it’s barely, barely, barely beating the V eight EPA rating on that one is a 17 city, 24 highway and 19 combined. So it makes it better than the V eight on the highway cycle, but it’s worse around town. So the combined rating’s the same. So if you pay attention with the EPAs calculations, say the new standard output six will save $2,000 in fuel costs over five years compared to the V eight still being more powerful, the standard output is 4 24 69.

Sean P. Holman (5m 38s):

But I

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 39s):

Mean, everyone’s gonna want, enthusiasts are gonna want the high 500 horsepower

Sean P. Holman (5m 42s):

Version. Well, it’ll cost you 3,500 bucks more in fuel over five years in the old V eight. Yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 47s):

I don’t think people care.

Sean P. Holman (5m 47s):

That’s a lot. That’s a big difference.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 49s):

No, no, no, it isn’t money. But I think those enthusiasts won’t care.

Sean P. Holman (5m 52s):

Well, yeah, I mean they’re not gonna have a choice. It’s not like you can choose the V eight. If they had ’em side by side for a little while, you’d probably go, oh, I’ll take the V eight rather have V eight anyway. Right? Yeah, but there is no choice. It’s one or version one or version two of the same straight six. Now twin turbo straight six is a rad, but that’s one rung below V eight radness.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 11s):

No, because they don’t sound good.

Sean P. Holman (6m 12s):

Twin, are you kidding me?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 14s):

The twin turbo straight six. Hell

Sean P. Holman (6m 16s):

Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 17s):

Does it?

Sean P. Holman (6m 17s):

Yes. You’re thinking about a V six V sixes are the ones that sound awful. Oh, a straight six sounds badass.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 23s):

Well, but hold on, it’s, but it still two

Sean P. Holman (6m 25s):

Jay Zs BMW MI know

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 27s):

The exhaust is still going through the turbos, so it doesn’t sound as good as like a big, you know, naturally aspirator or supercharged

Sean P. Holman (6m 32s):

Blah

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 32s):

Blah blah, V or something,

Sean P. Holman (6m 33s):

Blah blah, blah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 34s):

Blah. Okay. But point taken, it sounds better than you’re right. The V six is the one that sounds ridiculous.

Sean P. Holman (6m 40s):

Lightning Have, You Heard. Clearly not a straight six exhaust.

5 (6m 44s):

Oh

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 47s):

No, I have not heard.

Sean P. Holman (6m 48s):

And ITSA is now investigating 188,000, 2022 Ram HD trucks

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 59s):

Investigating them for what? Re nhtsa. So that’s a safety issue.

Sean P. Holman (7m 2s):

Right. After receiving 82 complaints, the agency is looking to a problem with what they’re calling the K one snap ring within the Eisen six speed automatic. And that would be on the high output versions of the 22 Ram 3,500 pickups, as well as the 3500 4500 5500 chassis cabs. And it, it sounds like the FC a’s already aware of the issue. There’s a, a bulletin out TSB dash 21 dash 0 0 2 dash 23. According to 16 owners, the trucks completely lost power at speeds above 25 miles per hour. And they could not resume normal operation after the snap ring failure.

Sean P. Holman (7m 43s):

If it fails, it may become dislodged rendering first through fourth gear. Entirely bad order. Bo inoperable. Yeah. FCA says fifth and reverse will remain unaffected. But that doesn’t really help if you can’t move The truck, I guess you can drive backwards for a while.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 59s):

So most recalls appear to be happening on newer vehicles, right? Last year, couple years. But Covid

Sean P. Holman (8m 4s):

Cars,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 5s):

The ones that people are really screaming about are all of the grid heater bolt failure issues on the six sevens oh seven two. Well, those are just

Sean P. Holman (8m 14s):

Starting to really kind of come out and make noise.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 15s):

I talked to a woman that I hope to have on the show today. She’s a diesel mechanic, owns FTM Diesel and Off Road up in a city I’ve never heard of in northern California about two hours north of San Francisco. Super awesome. I can’t wait to have her on the show, owns her own shop. Super rad. I found her on social media. She’s like, I found one guys, it happened to me like This Is not one in a million. And like we, we, we found it, we had a grid heater, bolt failure in my shop. She was just one of those many that said like, This Is happening to like one in several thousand people. She’s like, if I got one in my shop, it’s, it’s happening. It happen to you all. It’s gonna, it’s happening

Sean P. Holman (8m 52s):

A lot. And for clarification, there’s no recall on the trans issue, but it is under investigation at the moment. I see. Hey lighting, did you hear?

6 (9m 0s):

Yes, yes, yes, yes. No,

Sean P. Holman (9m 3s):

No. Our friends at TFL Truck have a story up about the first new Tesla cyber truck auction and bids went up to $158,000.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 15s):

Oh, wait a minute. Do, is there still that penalty that you have to pay if you flip The truck? ’cause I heard there was a $50,000 penalty that Tesla was gonna try and swoop up from you.

Sean P. Holman (9m 25s):

Yeah, they, I don’t know if they have something that you have to sign or not, but the, the bidding went up to over 150 grand and no sale was made. The owner had a dual motor all Wheel Drive Foundation series. There’s less than a hundred miles on it. And it was purchased in March of 24. So just last month. So that’s super brand new. Oh yeah, you’re right. It’s a $50,000 fine and a lifetime new Tesla purchase ban for cyber truck flippers. If you flip it within the first year of ownership, according to this story and the dual motor all Wheel Drive Foundation series will cost you around $99,990 plus taxes.

Sean P. Holman (10m 5s):

So the owner would only break even if he let it go at 50,000. So for example, the first 2022 GMC Hummer ev that sold at cars and BS was $235,000. So I think it twice the 110,000 business.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 23s):

I mean we, we, we saw that crazy one of cars and bids, but I think it was because the first one that went to auction like publicly. And I think th there are people that are predicting that. It’s the bottom’s falling out of that already. The early adopter thing on the, the cyber truck is already like on the decline. What do you think?

Sean P. Holman (10m 39s):

Yeah, and I think money’s expensive and there’s not as much free flowing cash as there was when people were just spending frivolously for for

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 47s):

Well, no, I I I just think that we’ve all seen them on transporter trucks now. You’ve seen ’em in videos. Maybe there’s one in your, in your town and you’ve seen it rolling around the street. I just saw one for the first time ever driving down in front of banks the other day. I don’t know what he was doing where, why he was on our street, but we all went to the window like that’s a cyber truck. It’s driving. Haven’t seen one before. But I think as soon as that passes it’s gonna be rough sailing for that truck.

Sean P. Holman (11m 13s):

Hey, Lighting, Have, You Heard. I don’t

7 (11m 15s):

Watch the news ’cause I’m a kid.

Sean P. Holman (11m 18s):

So there are more and more rumors about Nissan potentially having a Ford Maverick rivaling truck. And it could be a hybrid or an ev but it could also be sold as a Mitsubishi because it sounds like Nissan and Mitsubishi are planning a tie up that would allow them to co-develop a truck for the US market. So there may be yet another Nissan pickup in the lineup. I

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 40s):

Can’t hate on Mitsubishi, they used to make the little mighty max. Right. And I have a question for you.

Sean P. Holman (11m 45s):

Okay.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 47s):

All of a sudden people are saying tie up, not just you other people. I, I, for the last like 15 years, we called it a collaboration or a collab and now they’re calling it a tie up.

Sean P. Holman (11m 55s):

No. What?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 56s):

No, it was a

Sean P. Holman (11m 56s):

Collaboration. Co collab is something that’s come up by influencers in the last five years. Nobody calls it a collab. No

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 2s):

Tie up collab was used

Sean P. Holman (12m 3s):

Way before collab. No

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 5s):

Way. Yes. No collabs

Sean P. Holman (12m 6s):

Has been around

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 7s):

Since like urban, like urban wear.

Sean P. Holman (12m 9s):

No,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 9s):

You’re, it was like, yo, it’s like Airman

Sean P. Holman (12m 11s):

Lightning right now.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 12s):

And, and and Supreme got together. It’s a collab. Are you

Sean P. Holman (12m 15s):

Like one of those people who talks through a movie in a movie theater? No.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 18s):

Hey, stop being a Lightning down in front. Whatcha talking about?

Sean P. Holman (12m 22s):

It just seemed like I,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 24s):

No, are you kidding me? I hate, hate when people talking movies.

Sean P. Holman (12m 26s):

Okay, so The truck was confirmed last week by Nissan, CEO Makoto Uchida in a presentation of Nissan’s midterm business strategy. And according to automotive news, Nissan and Mitsubishi will split development of this smaller next generation pickup. And it’ll be manufactured in Mexico that would let The truck avoid the US chicken tax, which is the 25% tax on, on trucks and then also provide access to Latin America. So it sounds like both pf and full ev are in consideration, but there hasn’t been a firm decision. So we will keep our tabs on that could be another cool little Nissan. Hopefully they design it and it’s rad like the frontier.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 6s):

Bring it.

Sean P. Holman (13m 7s):

Hey lighting. Did you hear?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 9s):

No. Hmm.

Sean P. Holman (13m 10s):

So remember speaking of Nissan and small pickups, we talked about maybe Nissan was gonna swoop in and save Fisker.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 18s):

Yes. Although I kind of hope that doesn’t happen. But is it?

Sean P. Holman (13m 21s):

Well, apparently, according to paperwork that got filed with the US Securities in Exchange Commission, Fisker was not able to strike a deal with any potential suitors. And the quote unquote large automaker that was involved in the initial talks, quote unquote terminated the negotiations end quote. And so Fisker was rumored to have been in discussions with up to five automakers and Nissan being one of them. And according to a earlier report from Reuters, Nissan’s biggest interest was the electric Alaska pickup because it would have given them easy entry. And it’s a great looking truck and the chassis sounds great and it would’ve needed $400 million toward production of The truck at one of Fisk’s US plants.

Sean P. Holman (14m 6s):

So that’s a, that’s a lot of cheddar.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 8s):

I mean, how many times is Fisker gonna get financed? I mean, it, it’s gotta end at some point.

Sean P. Holman (14m 13s):

I think we’re, we’re, we’re seeing the decline right now. It’d be interesting to see if anybody swoops in, I mean you gotta have, I mean they got actual products in a plant. Things are coming out. I’ve seen ’em on the road. So like that’s better

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 26s):

You do. but like, do you wanna be thes like no,

Sean P. Holman (14m 29s):

I don’t want any vehicle.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 29s):

You know what I’m saying? Like your mate has been married six times. Yeah,

Sean P. Holman (14m 32s):

Yeah. but like you even that,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 33s):

Like that’s, I’m not just damaged goods at that point.

Sean P. Holman (14m 36s):

I’m not worried about that. I’m worried about buying a even a rivian and like his company could be here in five years. Where do I get service? Where do I get care? At least the cyber truck, you know, Tesla’s been around for a while and if you buy a regular, you know, mainstream manufacturer, they obviously are gonna be backing it for a while. Sure. But you get any of these startups, man, that makes me nervous long term. And Fisker, there’s a big report about them where they came out saying that they didn’t know where their money was and they mismanaged stuff and oh geez, it sounds like a kind of a mess over there. Which is, which is a bummer because I think they have some pretty cool designs, but as of right now, I’m not so sure it’s got a very bright future. I hope they surprise us because they do have some cool products.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 14s):

I mean, how many times is a startup allowed to be a startup? You know what I mean? If you, if you were starting a computer or software company, you, you get, you’re a startup at the very beginning. You get funding seed money, angel investing, whatever you, and then you hopefully get to market and then oh you screwed up. So then you go back to your startup phase again, you rally and you get more investing. How many times can you do that? That’s what Fisker has been doing. All of them. It’s a startup then a startup, then a startup. All of them. Okay.

Sean P. Holman (15m 39s):

Hey Lighting, Have, You, Heard. No.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 41s):

Nope.

Sean P. Holman (15m 42s):

Ford’s cutting more jobs at the F-150 lighting plan. Dearborn, Michigan has EV sales are slowing.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 47s):

Oh you don’t say.

Sean P. Holman (15m 48s):

Yeah. So they will drastically cut the number of hourly workers at the factory that builds the Ford F-150 Lightning seems like EV sales are growing in the US but at a pace that’s well short of what the ambitious timetable was as consumers are really looking at hybrid vehicles as proven by the RAD Prius. Yes, I said it Rad Prius. So Ford sold 24,000 lightnings last year. It was up 55% from 2022. But dealers are reporting a lot slower sales and rising inventories. They have the same thing with the Mach E. Have you seen the massive discounts on those? And finally they’re getting moved. So I think it’s the, the pricing is the biggest barrier and then the charging at home and then the charging network and then the infrastructure and then is it my third car?

Sean P. Holman (16m 31s):

Does it work for me? Lot of stuff going on over in ev.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 34s):

A lot, lot of negatives. Yeah. Very few positives here.

Sean P. Holman (16m 37s):

Of the 2100 workers that make up the three shifts at the Dearborn facility, only a third will remain. 700 workers will be transferred to the Michigan assembly plant in Wayne that builds the Bronco and Ranger. The remaining 700 workers will either take an early retirement package offered during last year’s contracts or will take a reassignment in southeast Michigan for, is adding a third crew at the Michigan assembly plant according to the Detroit Free press. So

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 5s):

Our microphones were there when the CEO said, alright,

8 (17m 8s):

You guys love you, meaning bye.

Sean P. Holman (17m 11s):

Sure. They were to

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 13s):

Lots of former employees. Hey

Sean P. Holman (17m 15s):

Lighting, Have, You Heard. No,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 19s):

No, I don’t believe so Tell me.

Sean P. Holman (17m 21s):

So we just did that episode where we got a chance to ride in the Silverado ev. Yep. And apparently there’s gonna be a new trim release called the three wt. So that’s one step down in the work truck lineup from the four WT that I think is the version that we were in that was priced at 79,900. So the three WT brings the price down to 74 900, but output from the dual motor is now 510 horsepower and 600 pound feet, which is 15 horsepower less than the four wt. And driving range is estimated to only be 393 miles on the charge compared to the four 50 of the four wt. But the three lts payload capacity is now rated at 350 pounds more at 1,750 and towing bumps up to 12,500 pounds, which is 2,500 pounds more than the price your three wt.

Sean P. Holman (18m 16s):

What that tells me is they took out some batteries and they got back some payload and towing ability.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (18m 22s):

I think that that is a dud of a truck. I think that in two years that’s, that truck’s gone. It’s not on the

Sean P. Holman (18m 31s):

Market anymore. I think it’s just on a fleet truck for a lot of reasons. I think it’s just, there’s some weird decisions like no mid gate on the work truck trim and the fact that the bed can’t take all your normal Silverado accessories and things like that. I could see it being a popular, you know, ev full-size pickup, but as a work truck. Mm. I’m yeah, I’m not sold. Nope.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (18m 53s):

I’m telling you, two years not gonna hear about that truck anymore.

Sean P. Holman (18m 56s):

So according to Chevy, there’s still one or two more WT trims on the way. It would assume the one WT in the two wt and it will have a fleet focused max trailer package that will increase towing to a full 20,000 pounds.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 8s):

That’s pretty hefty. Yeah,

Sean P. Holman (19m 9s):

That’s good. Is it enough for you to go grab a EV truck? Probably not. Nope. Hey, Lighting, Have You Heard.

10 (19m 17s):

No, no, no, no, no, no,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 19s):

No, no, no, no.

Sean P. Holman (19m 20s):

So apparently Texas is refusing to register those Japanese key trucks and the owners are having enough. So it’s one of the multiple states that have put up roadblocks to getting the 25-year-old imports of these little micro pickups. So if you remember, we covered with our friend Andy Lilienthal, some of the key car issues from the New England area. And so now according to the Utopian, while Texas hasn’t been as aggressive as Maine and Rhode Island, but it has denied a number of people trying to register legal imports. So it’s gonna be interesting. It says This Is for

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 55s):

Street use. Right? Yep.

Sean P. Holman (19m 56s):

Okay. And the piece notes that these denials have increased, though they’ve been occasionally argued for years based on some confusion between late model low speed mini trucks and older imported Japanese examples for the same reason as the New England examples. So policy recommendations from the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators. So it’s seems like there’s some confusion between those low speed vehicles like golf carts that are allowed on 35 mile an hour streets and slower and the street legal full 25-year-old gray market imports. But it seems like the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators, A-A-M-V-A is an organization publishing recommendations that says the small key size vehicles should not be granted registration because they’re unsafe despite these federal exemptions.

Sean P. Holman (20m 43s):

But of course those recommendations seem to ignore that even older and more dangerous vehicles, including motorcycles and antique cars can still be legally registered. So the utopian goes on to highlight that a group called the Texas Key Truck Advocate is working to make it so that these vehicles can be easily and legally registered. So apparently they’re working with Texas lawmakers and the Texas DMV to review the rule making. But I think that’s a good point. I I I think that you would see those go, oh, that that looks unsafe. But then there’s a dude driving a Model T with historical plates. Well that’s gotta be way, way unsafe if something bad happens, right? Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (21m 19s):

But again, it’s grandfathered in and you wouldn’t, you wouldn’t approve a model T today. Although they still approve motorcycles, which is super weird because there’s nothing more dangerous than I love motorcycles. Yeah. I’m a two Wheel freak. Dude, you

Sean P. Holman (21m 32s):

Ran from the police on motorcycle on

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (21m 34s):

Occasion and didn’t have you in your, whatcha you talking about? I do not know what you are talking about. What are you saying?

Sean P. Holman (21m 39s):

I’m just saying that you’re an outlaw. I

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (21m 40s):

Did not. What are you what Harrumph I don’t recall that at all.

Sean P. Holman (21m 46s):

Hmm. Recall that story many times. Hey, Lighting, Have, You, Heard.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (21m 50s):

9 9 9 9 9.

Sean P. Holman (21m 52s):

I know you like patents. So Ford has patented yet another weird bed thing and This Is

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (21m 58s):

Tell me more.

Sean P. Holman (21m 59s):

A bed rack with stowaway rails,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 1s):

A bed rack. Oh.

Sean P. Holman (22m 2s):

So that’s kind of smart.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 3s):

That is really cool. So So

Sean P. Holman (22m 5s):

Basically the rails rise out from

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 7s):

They go

Sean P. Holman (22m 8s):

Vertical. They go vertical and they have like, where your stake pockets would be is the pillars for them. And they can go up that cab height and then go flush back to the bed.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 15s):

Dude, that’s really creative. That’s another one where you go, why, why didn’t anyone someone do that? That’s insane.

Sean P. Holman (22m 20s):

Those exist, right? But they exist as a rack that you have to bolt onto the bed. These rise out of the bedsides. What the

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 27s):

Fuck?

Sean P. Holman (22m 28s):

I’m telling you. What,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 29s):

What? Right. How has no one done that?

Sean P. Holman (22m 32s):

So anyway, you push

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 34s):

It, you could automate those. I can imagine those being motorized. Totally. You push em by then they rise straight out of the pockets and go like,

Sean P. Holman (22m 39s):

Look, look at all the things that Ford has. They have like a halo with crossbars. They have a way for you to tie down like a big filing cabinet. It’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 45s):

Blowing my mind. Who did this again? You said this This Is Ford. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (22m 49s):

What? I know

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 51s):

What, that’s crazy. Well, it’s 2024. No one’s done that until now.

Sean P. Holman (22m 58s):

Dude. I’m I’m telling you. It’s, it’s super weird. So anyway, the Ford patent details a cargo management system for F-150 trucks that can weigh and load cargo efficiently, but still has aerodynamic features. They’re actuated with arms from within The truck bed that assist in loading heavy items, securing cargo with a retractable net and creating arrow features for smoother airflow. Just seems like something that you have

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 22s):

Done. You talk about like the biggest no-brainer in the history. No-brainers.

Sean P. Holman (23m 25s):

It’s, I I’m looking at this going, how has this never been thought of before?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 30s):

It’s so obvious when You see that.

Sean P. Holman (23m 32s):

So if you’re looking for more information, the applicant for Global Technologies LLC,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 37s):

Don’t give us the 80 digit US patent number

Sean P. Holman (23m 40s):

11 9 3 2 3 1 1 B two. If you wanna see the drawings and read about the patent, we have a few listeners who I know love that kinda stuff. And it’s just dumb. It’s so dumb. It’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 53s):

Brilliant. Well, how’s this dumb? There’s nothing dumb about that. Yeah,

Sean P. Holman (23m 55s):

Because nobody thought about it before.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 57s):

Well, that’s dumb.

Sean P. Holman (23m 57s):

We’re all dumb. Hey lighting, did you hear? Ah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (24m 3s):

Nope, I have not. Clearly.

Sean P. Holman (24m 7s):

So Ford is offering a carbon fiber body work package for the Bronco Raptor. It’s available via Ford Performance and you can find it on their online store. And there’s been a similar range of accessories for the F-150. This kit for the Bronco is compatible with all 22 and newer Bronco Raptors with the factory tailgate panel. And it consists of a vented hood, fender vents, fender flares, and the a four mentioned tailgate panel. And then the will compliment the Bronco Raptors interior carbon trim. They look pretty cool.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (24m 37s):

Andy mentioned a price says

Sean P. Holman (24m 38s):

The set is available in both gloss and matte finishes and comes with all the fasteners and materials necessary for installation. If you don’t want the entire kit, you’ll be able to buy the pieces individually. What do you think the entire kit costs?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (24m 55s):

Seven grand,

Sean P. Holman (24m 56s):

$7,000.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (24m 58s):

No way. Is it true?

Sean P. Holman (24m 59s):

Nope, that’s not true at all. Oh, damn. The entire kit is $13,295.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (25m 6s):

Damn. Damn. Damn. That’s real carbon fiber. Yeah, it is. Now that tells me that somebody’s manufacturing it for them. Quantity is low, that’s why it’s expensive. Yep. I wonder who’s making it for ’em. If it’s someone we know. It could be. Is it, I wonder if they’ve teamed up with a PG, aren’t they outta Southern California? They make those really cool kits.

Sean P. Holman (25m 24s):

They are local to us. I have no idea who their supplier is, but could could be something cool. All right. And then final news for the segment of Have You Heard Lighting Have You Heard. No,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (25m 35s):

No.

Sean P. Holman (25m 37s):

Remember we were talking about the $13,000 Hilux champ. That was the Lego looking Toyota cheap pickup truck. Yes. And you were like, that’s freaking amazing. Yes. So there has been some, some

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (25m 48s):

Is it on sale not on sale yet, is it?

Sean P. Holman (25m 50s):

No, you can’t get it here. Oh, can’t hear at all. Damnit. But there’s some stories that have said that perhaps the small Land Cruiser FJ could potentially ride on that chassis.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (26m 1s):

But it it’s how it’s micro

Sean P. Holman (26m 3s):

It’s tiny. It’s, it’s Well so is the small FJ concept. So is it really? I just, is that small? But it’s, it doesn’t seem like it’d be great offered and like, I think it would be like an urban, we just wanna drive it around town and look Land Cruiser ish. Yeah. So

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (26m 15s):

Who knows? It’s like a Land cruiser golf cart.

Sean P. Holman (26m 18s):

Maybe better. I don’t know. Hmm. I’m just, I I, the, the styling is interesting. I’m like, kinda

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (26m 25s):

Spit it this way. What does it look like? I don’t, am I interested? We don’t

Sean P. Holman (26m 28s):

Know what it looks like. It’s not out yet. Oh,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (26m 30s):

You, okay, so This Is,

Sean P. Holman (26m 31s):

There’s just a bunch of renderings that are out

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (26m 33s):

There and stuff like that. Yeah, no,

Sean P. Holman (26m 35s):

It’s like a Jeep Renegade, but a Toyota

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (26m 37s):

That’s No, I used this reviewer cold.

Sean P. Holman (26m 40s):

Yeah, yeah. Much like this show. So, Hey, Lighting Have You Heard. What? No, no. It’s time to put this one to bed.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (26m 48s):

Whatcha

11 (26m 49s):

Talking about Lewis

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (26m 51s):

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