Holman is in search of a deal, Ford adjusts Lightning prices again, Ram RHO rumors emerge, Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison faces production issues, Cybertruck stop sale and issues a recall, huge dealership theft, and more! The Truck Show Podcast is proudly presented by Nissan in association with Banks Power and AMSOIL.


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Sean P. Holman (0s):

Hey, Lighting, Have. You Heard.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2s):

No. And. Don. Don’t care. Uhuh. I don’t think so. The truck show. We’re gonna show you what we know. We’re gonna answer what? The truck. Truck rides with The truck show. We have the lifted We. have the lowered and everything in between. We’ll talk about trucks that run on diesel and the ones that run on gasoline. The truck show. The truck show. The truck show. Whoa Whoa.

Intro (39s):

It’s The truck show with your hosts Lightning and Holman.

Sean P. Holman (44s):

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Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 60s):

No, I, no, I I’m going with no.

Sean P. Holman (2m 8s):

Holman is still in search of that elusive super cheap lease deal.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 16s):

I, dude,

Sean P. Holman (2m 16s):

I was so close, I didn’t bring it up in the last episode ’cause you were getting angry about it, but Toyota could not move for the life of them. Their BZ four X like little full electric crossover. 2020 threes. Were going for a 1 39 a month lease deal. 1 39, 20, 20 fours, 1 79 with like two grand down. I’m like, Hmm, that’s pretty much cheaper than the gas bill on the, on the Jeep. And I’m like, I’m gonna go find one and I’m just gonna get

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 47s):

And. when you said, pretty much, is it actually cheaper? Because if you do the math with the

Sean P. Holman (2m 51s):

Fuel, it depends how much I drive the Jeep.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 53s):

Well, right now you’re not driving the Jeep at all.

Sean P. Holman (2m 55s):

I’m trying not to. Well, I will next week because I’m gone for a week on a 350 mile desert trip.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 0s):

I, I I get that. But like right now you’re not driving it much. If you were driving it full-time, how much would you be

Sean P. Holman (3m 7s):

Spending at 12? The only reason I’m

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 8s):

At 12 and a half miles a gallon. The

Sean P. Holman (3m 9s):

Only reason I’m not driving it full time is ’cause I have the CR-V, which is going to my oldest kid soon. No, no, I

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 13s):

Get that. So let’s say though, yeah, what’s the price of fuel? That’s

Sean P. Holman (3m 17s):

$6 a gallon. $6 for premium. We’re touching six here.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 21s):

Six bucks a gallon. Yeah. In California. Yeah. How much would you spend per month on fuel daily driving

Sean P. Holman (3m 28s):

At least one tank a week.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 30s):

One tank a week. And so that’s

Sean P. Holman (3m 32s):

$120. One

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 33s):

20 times four times

Sean P. Holman (3m 35s):

Four. So

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 35s):

You got 480 bucks a month? Yeah,

Sean P. Holman (3m 38s):

Just in gas.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 39s):

Your $2,000 down. Okay. Plus your 1 49 a month. So you got 2000 down divided by 36, right? 36 monthly, right? Yep. That’s $55. Okay. Plus,

Sean P. Holman (3m 53s):

Plus. Just say this, the, the higher price, the 1 79. Alright.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 57s):

Plus 1 79 equal. So you’re talking 203 4

Sean P. Holman (4m 2s):

Bucks. It’s, and it’s like two 50 with registration, tax title and all that.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 5s):

Okay. So, so two 50 a month for the

Sean P. Holman (4m 9s):

EV or whatever

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 10s):

Happen to get versus four 80 in fuel. Wow. Big difference.

Sean P. Holman (4m 12s):

And differe, they give you a year of ev go public charging for free, which we have a station around the corner,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 17s):

So you’re saving roughly 250 bucks by going no

Sean P. Holman (4m 21s):

Brainer. Right? Yeah. So they had these things, they were sitting on lots for like 80 to a hundred days. They couldn’t move ’em. They do this crazy lease deal. I talked to 10 dealerships in Southern California chasing these things around. They sold hundreds in three days.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 36s):

Wow. Ouch.

Sean P. Holman (4m 37s):

Hundreds. Ouch. Hundreds. Yeah. And they’re like, oh, we like are my local. And they’ll go, we sold 30 this weekend. Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 43s):

What model is that again? That’s the word.

Sean P. Holman (4m 45s):

That’s the BZ four X

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 47s):

BZ four x. I’m gonna, but it’s one of the,

Sean P. Holman (4m 49s):

It’s it’s weird ’cause it’s like, it, it’s, it’s the

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 53s):

Per, I just mistyped that and got some really bad adult content. Hold on. It’s b

Sean P. Holman (4m 57s):

It’s the perfect around town car, right? Like it’s just gonna be the shuttle, the kids around to their different places. And my two mile drives it looks like, like a RAV4 kind. That is bad. Who cares what it looks like.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 8s):

It’s not a tra Well, I will say that there are some combos that look okay in this

Sean P. Holman (5m 15s):

Car. Yeah, dude. This Is a pure function play.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 17s):

This actually looks a little bit like the,

Sean P. Holman (5m 21s):

It looks like a Prius and a RAV4 had a baby. This

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 23s):

Looks a little like a Polestar, which I kind of like.

Sean P. Holman (5m 26s):

I’m, listen,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 27s):

I don’t dislike this. I will say I I I would just,

Sean P. Holman (5m 29s):

It comes pretty loaded

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 30s):

Too. Just 30 seconds ago I was about ready to like jump all over you. This. Is Not that bad.

Sean P. Holman (5m 35s):

It’s not that bad.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 36s):

No, it’s not that bad

Sean P. Holman (5m 37s):

Dude. It comes fully loaded. The only options on the more expensive one are better stereo and like text leather, which is the fake leather. Well, I’m, I’m waiting for, do you remember we we’re sitting in here, Nissan had for like a one week, like a crazy frontier lease deal that was like a hundred and like $19 was it

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 57s):

Was the one that both of us regret.

Sean P. Holman (5m 59s):

Yeah. We looked at it the next day and it was gone. So I don Dunno if it was a mistake on the website, but it was like this really short deal and then

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 4s):

Oh, Nissan doesn’t make mistakes.

Sean P. Holman (6m 6s):

Oh no, no, no. I meant the, their web person I see. Put it on there. Gotcha. But I mean if that, if some crazy like 1 99 a month for a frontier deal came, I’d instantly grab that. Agreed. But I’m just like, like, come on, people bring back the cheap lease deals I need. I just need a round town car.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 20s):

Can you just give us a loss leader like you be did back in the eighties and nineties. That’s

Sean P. Holman (6m 24s):

Right. I mean, I’m sure all of our friends listening who are worked at dealerships and things like that, they’re probably like, you guys are idiots. Don’t lease the car or whatever. I just don’t care. Don’t care. All. Hey Lighting. Other than that, Have, You, Heard.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 37s):

No, no.

Sean P. Holman (6m 38s):

Ford has new pricing again for the f1. For what? For 50 Lightning.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 43s):

Oh no. Have they dropped it

Sean P. Holman (6m 44s):

Again? Dude, it’s so do you remember they came out low and then they like spiked it way high then like, oh, too high. And they came back low. Did

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 50s):

They make a quote unquote market adjustment? The

Sean P. Holman (6m 53s):

Residuals on that thing has to be crazy, like volatile. And we, I have a neighbor who just bought one and they’re like, oh yeah, we got our F-150 Lightning. It’s so rad. I’m like, it’s all right. I mean, if you don’t use it as a truck, like it’s cool you don’t tow, like you can haul with it and it’s whatever. But I,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 9s):

It does most of the utility of a, of a normal truck.

Sean P. Holman (7m 12s):

This Is me, This Is, me having pendants for considering the, the, the Toyota ev. But the reality is, is like for a little compact car like that where you’re literally, my daughter’s school is in the same track as our house. I drive outta the track, they make a right and I drive right into the next driveway and I’m there. So well for that like an EV’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 32s):

Perfect that No for that you need a bicycle.

Sean P. Holman (7m 35s):

Not when it’s raining and it’s cold, windy. No, but you know, I don’t even get the C RV engine warm in the morning. Dropping her off at school. What about

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 42s):

A golf cart?

Sean P. Holman (7m 43s):

Can’t use a golf cart here because Oh, I could, because I can make it there in with the interior of the tract. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But how much was the golf cart?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 54s):

Nine grand.

Sean P. Holman (7m 55s):

I could get that Toyota lease and it’d be cheaper than the golf cart.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 58s):

Yeah, that’s true. But I own the

Sean P. Holman (7m 59s):

Golf cart and it, no. Yeah, but I could have that card for three years with like windshield wipers and a heater and take it places.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 5s):

I mean I could have put a heater in the

Sean P. Holman (8m 6s):

Golf cart. Listen, you’re just trying to be a golf cart apologist. All right. Anyway, so here’s the deal. 2024 F-150 Lightning. The entry level XLT is now 65 0 90. And so that’s a $2,000 difference. The flash goes from 75 5 90 to $70,090. That’s what did you

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 28s):

Thousand. Wait, wait, stop the flash.

Sean P. Holman (8m 30s):

That’s a, that’s a trim level. $5,550. Lariat 81. 590 to 79 0 9. Oh that’s $2,500. And platinum stays the same. So I just, Ford just can’t, can’t seem to get those prices right. Like they’re always changing em on that thing. I think the market’s still trying to figure out where it belongs.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 50s):

It’s gonna take some time. I think it’s gonna last into 2025 before. Oh probably figure out what these EVs are truly worth.

Sean P. Holman (8m 56s):

Hey, Lighting, Have, You, Heard.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 57s):

How about new?

Sean P. Holman (8m 58s):

No. So now GMC has announced that the Sierra Denali ev will actually be cheaper than they initially expected. And so now it starts under a hundred thousand and the range estimates are up to 440 miles per

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 10s):

Charge. That’s still really good mileage. And it’s

Sean P. Holman (9m 12s):

A lot of money though. That’s a lot of money. Well,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 15s):

Yeah, you’re never paying that off So it like there’s no way how many?

Sean P. Holman (9m 17s):

99, 4 95. What

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 19s):

Does it cost per mile? Has anyone done that equation? That’s nuts.

Sean P. Holman (9m 22s):

Well, but see you can’t really, really do that on EV because it all depends on what your, your power source is. So some people have coal, some people have solar, some people have nuke, some people have natural gas, some people have hydroelectric, some people have wind. It just depends. And like where you live with utility charges, like there’s, there’s so many variables. I’ve been places where like my neighbor, he’s got so many solar panels on his house. Like he could be separate from the grid and the the utility literally told him no, he could not disconnect. Which that’s funny. And he’s, he’s pissed about that. I think he’s trying to sue them or something to be off off of it. I I make my own power screw those guys. But I’ve also been places where the price per mile after charging in an expensive spot was more expensive than a premium tank of gas.

Sean P. Holman (10m 6s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 6s):

Heard that

Sean P. Holman (10m 7s):

So. it just, it’s all over the place. So you don’t like, to me it’s like, you know, you don’t just get ev ’cause you, oh it’s cheaper ’cause it’s not necessary. Like in some cases it is. It’s just there’s a lot of variables to to owning one.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 19s):

Do the math people do the math.

Sean P. Holman (10m 21s):

I tell you what it’s like, but

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 23s):

You won’t. You don’t know that they sold

Sean P. Holman (10m 24s):

Out. Hey Lighting, Have, You Heard.

5 (10m 28s):

No, no, no, no, no,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 31s):

No, no, no. I have not heard.

Sean P. Holman (10m 33s):

So coming up next week is finally the announcement about the ram straight six T-R-X-R-H-O. So I think we are rebel high output or RAM high output, whatever they’re gonna do. So I’ve heard a lot of things about it.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 48s):

Radical high

Sean P. Holman (10m 49s):

Output. And they had a RAM 1500, or excuse me, 2,500 rebel towing a trailer with the RHO on it covered up in like a, a camo sheet. So it’ll be interesting to see

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 3s):

What was it doing? Was it doing like an eighth mile racing app Porsche?

Sean P. Holman (11m 8s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 8s):

Oh that was the cyber truck.

Sean P. Holman (11m 10s):

Yeah. So anyway, we will have more information. So here’s the other thing. Without having the supercharge V eight, it should be a lot cheaper. So probably maybe 75,000 versus being closer to 90. when You option ’em up, I guess we’ll find out.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 27s):

I really wanna know what it’s gonna do to the V eight prices. You know. Well the

Sean P. Holman (11m 31s):

V eight prices are, it’s a different animal. It’s 500 and what? 50 horsepower versus 702?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 36s):

No, no, no. I know that. I’m saying what will it do to the resale of No

Sean P. Holman (11m 39s):

That’s what I’m saying vs. Are gonna always be high because this until, I don’t think you’re going to see a negative impact to the V eight until the TRX returns with a super tuned 700 horsepower straight six. If that happens.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 54s):

Hmm. Let’s hope it doesn’t for

Sean P. Holman (11m 56s):

My sake. Well I And am I not? Hey Lighting, did you hear?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 60s):

No, no. Mr. sth. I have not.

Sean P. Holman (12m 4s):

So according to GM authority, GM is facing significant production constraints for the 2024 Chevy Colorado ZR two bison, which you’ll remember is the mid-size truck with the 30 fives. Apparently

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 19s):

It’s a gorgeous truck. I wonder what it’s being held up. Please tell me. It’s not a

Sean P. Holman (12m 21s):

V. No it’s not a V because I saw all sorts of damage carts filled with parts when I was there anyway, it says 0% constraint, which means little to no units will be built during the month of April. And apparently that happened back in March as well. And in February production constraint was 6%. So that means just 6% of what they were expected to produce were actually built. And a non bison Colorado zero two, according to the same article, is running at a 25% production constraints. So only a quarter of the plan non bison Colorado zero two units are gonna be produced.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 55s):

But do they say why they’re saying production constraints, are they missing?

Sean P. Holman (13m 0s):

Usually that means there’s some sort of parts that they can’t get So. it could be anything. It could be not enough dampers. It could be a bumper cover, it could be the tires.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 7s):

And it’s only this one. It’s only this Colorado. It’s not any of the other trim levels.

Sean P. Holman (13m 13s):

No. According to this article, it’s just the Z twos and zero two bisons. Mm. So we’ll be interesting to see what the holdup was on that. And I’m sure there’s a lot of people listening going, man, I’ve been wanting to get in that truck ’cause I drove it in. That truck’s badass. But it doesn’t matter if you can’t get your hands on it. Hey, Lighting, Have You Heard.

6 (13m 31s):

Oh, Hano.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 33s):

No, I have not heard Uhuh.

Sean P. Holman (13m 35s):

Apparently the cyber truck is on a stop sale because of a issue. Oh,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 40s):

The paddle. I did

Sean P. Holman (13m 41s):

Hear about this cyber truck says that a stuck accelerator pedal held the accelerator down at a hundred percent. Which that thing could be really freaking scary. Whoa, that sounds, that sounds pretty, pretty bad. Anyway, the owner of The truck was, so,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 10s):

Wait, that’s not the cyber trucks. Sorry. No

Sean P. Holman (14m 11s):

Different vehicle. Jose Martinez, the owner of The truck who was in California, posted a video to TikTok and he was talking about saying that he, he had been driving when a cover for the accelerator pedal that gives it that kind of metallic, you know, finish slid forward and wedged itself in a way where it couldn’t be released. He says, quote unquote, it held the accelerator down 100% at full throttle. I was lucky enough and had a clear mind, didn’t panic and holding the brake down overrides the pedal. So I was able to stop the car. But anytime I’d lift the brake, it would start accelerating again. So that sounds pretty scary. Apparently Nitsa provided a statement to Business Insider and said Nitsa is aware of this issue and is in contact with the manufacturer to gather additional information.

Sean P. Holman (14m 56s):

So other than that, Martinez did say that he likes his cyber truck. He thinks it’s a great car

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 3s):


Sean P. Holman (15m 3s):

That that was the quote

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 4s):

Car. Car. Our microphones were there. Listen carefully. See what I did there. See, because it’s electric right? Didn’t make any noise when they were there and it accelerated uncontrollably that

Sean P. Holman (15m 17s):

What you were doing?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 18s):


Sean P. Holman (15m 19s):

Hey Lighting, did you hear

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 32s):

I love that one really well. No, that, by the way, did you hear that crash at the end? I

Sean P. Holman (15m 37s):

I figured. Cyber truck? No. Cyber truck? No. Allegedly, no.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 41s):

Possibly that was it. That was the audio. No, from Mr.

Sean P. Holman (15m 44s):

Lighting does Lightning does not mean this don’t come after his Tesla. Where a stupid podcast in the backyard of my house. That’s it. Alright. A according to continued patent filings, it looks like Rivian is really trying to push the, the, the, the lineup into even more hardcore off-roading. And there have been some photos that make it sound like maybe the Rivian R one X, the little guy is gonna be some sort of Jeep or a Raptor fighter, something like that. So Rivian really like jumping in, going, you know, we’re already the ev adventure brand that’s, they want you to know the mi time

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 22s):

Out. You said Jeep or Raptor Fighter. Those are very different things. I

Sean P. Holman (16m 25s):

Understand that. But nobody knows what the R one X is gonna be. I’ve heard it’s more of an SUV, but then there’s patent filings of a crazy looking jacked pickup truck. But it looks like the, you know, the R one T The truck? Yeah. On, you know, on steroids. So who knows what we’re gonna get from Rivian, but, but they’ve got their eyes solely focused on being your adventure choice.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 49s):


Sean P. Holman (16m 51s):

Hey Lighting, did you hear, I

8 (16m 52s):

Don’t watch the news because I’m a kid.

Sean P. Holman (16m 56s):

Carlisle Chrysler National celebrated 20 years of the Rim. SRT 10. This came across my feed. I just wanted to say, I can’t believe it’s been 20 years. If you guys go back to, way back to episode 33, did a interview with a friend of mine, herb Heba, who’s the chief engineer on the Ram, SRT 10. I would love for you guys to go back and listen to that episode. It was a lot of fun. Talked about the behind the scenes of the development of that truck. Is

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 19s):

That the one where he scared the bejesus out of you? No,

Sean P. Holman (17m 22s):

He didn’t scare me. That was the one where we went on the racetrack after and we,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 26s):

We said they don’t know where we are on the track. Yeah. And they can’t see us, so I’m gonna go really fast.

Sean P. Holman (17m 30s):

Yeah. So basically, I believe the record run was 151 miles an hour, setting the world’s fastest pickup truck record. Ford was at 1 47 or something like that, the Lightning. So Ram said, oh well hold up, hold our beer. Except it wasn’t beer. And then they took this around the track and Guinness was there to certify it. I was there. And then Herb goes, you wanna go on on the track before we wrap up? And convinced the track manager that we were gonna do one lap only and proceeded to take that thing to a hundred. I can’t remember, it was like 1 45 ish, somewhere in there. So just a few miles an hour short of the record. It just did. And then he gets on the brakes hard. We’re doing like 30 miles an hour. He goes, okay. You know, what do you tell him?

Sean P. Holman (18m 10s):

And I’m like, well, you only went up to a hundred Herb. ’cause that’s what we promised them we would do. So anyway, listen to episode 33, season one of The Truck, Show Podcast. Great interview, great storytelling. If you ever been a fan of what was colloquially called the Viper Truck, you will appreciate that episode. Do

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (18m 26s):

You remember when You were on the track with Herb? Yep. Were the windows being sucked out? The

Sean P. Holman (18m 31s):

Door was being sucked off the, the frames. Oh it was? Yeah. Oh, it’s crazy. Yeah, it was, it was wild. And we were there with, I don’t think we had helmets

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (18m 40s):


Sean P. Holman (18m 41s):

I don’t think we had really, we had regular seat belts. Yeah. I don’t think we had harnesses fricking way. And it was Super Bowl Sunday or Saturday before Super Bowl. And it was snowing.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (18m 50s):


Sean P. Holman (18m 50s):

Lord. So. it was icy on the track and things sliding all over when Summer tired we’re doing 140 plus five. Yeah. That was awesome. Anyway, go back to that episode. You guys will appreciate it, especially if, if you’re new to the show and you haven’t gone back that far, there’s, there’s some magic back there. So, alright. Lighting, Have, You, Heard.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 7s):

No, no. How? No, no.

Sean P. Holman (19m 10s):

This one I think w probably, well I feel like this one might trigger you or, or hit closer to home. A, a gang of car thieves struck a dealership in Alabama leaving with a hall of vehicles valued at $1.2 million. And it all started with a rock. So one of the

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 36s):

Why was Dwayne the Rock Johnson there stealing

Sean P. Holman (19m 40s):

Cars. He makes

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 41s):

Way too much money to have to resort to

Sean P. Holman (19m 43s):

Stealing stop vehicles. Stop This Is. Why? Our shows are so long. Lightning what? Stop.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 47s):


Sean P. Holman (19m 49s):

Armed with a rock, not V Rock. They shattered the window under the dealership gaining entry. Then they bypassed the dealership security measures, which included cameras and alarms. And in the dead of night they got their cars. So the general manager, Greg Anthony, described the scene and said, in more than 30 years in the business, I’ve never seen a theft so sophisticated. Not this big, nothing of this magnitude. Wait

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (20m 15s):

A minute. Sophisticated. They started with a fricking rock.

Sean P. Holman (20m 17s):

Yeah. But they basically approached each of the vehicles, unlocked it started the engines and made off with eight vehicles, including a demon one 70 man. So investigators were looking for it. So two of the stolen vehicles, a Wagoner and a Ford Bronco Raptor were recovered.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (20m 37s):

Ah. So you and I know someone at a dealership and at this dealership they had a whole wad of keys stolen off the key rack. Mm. And they had to rekey like a lot of cars

Sean P. Holman (20m 50s):

And trucks.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (20m 50s):

Yeah. It’s not, people want these things all of a sudden. It’s super

Sean P. Holman (20m 54s):

Weird. It’s it’s crazy. Yeah, it’s crazy. Let’s see. Whoa.

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Jay “Lightning” Tilles (21m 1s):

Not right. No.

Sean P. Holman (21m 3s):

Hey Lighting, did you hear?

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Jay “Lightning” Tilles (21m 7s):

No I didn’t. I figured

Sean P. Holman (21m 9s):

We go over the full size heavy duty pickup truck sales for Q1 of 2024. As you might suspect, GM trucks combined were up 2% with 195,099 vehicles. Ford F series was at 1 5 2 9 5 3, which is down 10%. But led the pack, if you separate out Chevy and GMC, the Silverado 1 26 5 0 2, which was a 2% increase as well over 2023 at the same time period. Ram trucks, this one hurts 89,417 down 15% from 23.

Sean P. Holman (21m 49s):

But I think that has to do with, with the swap over and the new trucks coming out and all that kinda stuff. You think so? I think that’s part of it.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (21m 55s):

I’ve heard that just the, the the, they weren’t selling for price wise and

Sean P. Holman (22m 1s):

Well the heavy duty trucks, but I think the 15 hundreds are, are people have been waiting for the new truck to come out. Hmm. And then GMC Sierra 68 5 97. So that was up 2%. Toyota Tundra 36,215. That’s up 31%. 36,000.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 17s):


Sean P. Holman (22m 18s):

In Q1 F-150 Lightning. So if you break out the Lightning, they sold 7,743. That’s up 80% from last year. Nissan Titan 4,145. That’s up 2.6% from last year. The Hummer Ev This Is, the one we joked about, I think a couple episodes ago up 83300% went from two to 1,668. And the Silverado EV sold 1061, but it was not on sale last year. So there’s nothing to compare it to. Overall the market was basically flat. Cyber truck wasn’t included in this total. So no idea what those numbers are. But it was,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 54s):

Is that being considered a full-size truck? Yeah. Yes it is. Yeah,

Sean P. Holman (22m 57s):

They’re big 6 83 400 versus 6 94 0 0 3. So they’re, overall the market was down 1.6%. So if you are in the market for a truck, sounds like you might have a little bit of luck at the forward of the Ram dealership Right now.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 10s):

Interest rate’s still high, so I don’t know. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (23m 13s):

But there’s a lot of money on the hood. If you can offset that interest rate by getting some, some cash on it, you might be able to still be. Okay.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 21s):

Is that an old school term money on the hood?

Sean P. Holman (23m 23s):

It’s a dealership term.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 25s):

Meaning like they’re like here. Like here’s take it money incent

Sean P. Holman (23m 29s):

Incentive cash. Yeah. Got it. That’s, that’s what they call it.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 31s):

Money on the hood. Interesting.

Sean P. Holman (23m 33s):

Truck Show podcast at gmail dot com. What other dealership slang is out there that Lightning doesn’t know? Please feel free. 6 5 7 2 0 5 61 0 5. I know a lot of you guys work at dealers. Let’s, let’s enlighten Lightning.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 47s):

You’re just twisting this whole episode on me. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (23m 49s):

I just want them to tell you all sorts of other things. Well, This Is weird. ’cause Inside Jar, it’s been jargon. It’s been like three or four of the last episodes. You’ve questioned things, you’re like, what, what does that mean?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 58s):

We do enjoy inside jargon. So I’d like to hear some secret jar. Is that technology,

Sean P. Holman (24m 2s):

Is that our new segment inside jargon?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (24m 5s):

I will make a jingle if you guys, if you make his

Sean P. Holman (24m 6s):

Call, if, yeah, let’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (24m 7s):

Do it. 6 5 7 2 0 5 61 0 5, 5 star hotline. Gimme some inside dealership jargon. I wanna hear the words like the,

Sean P. Holman (24m 16s):

The undercoating,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (24m 17s):

No, the negative words about customers, what they call customers behind the back.

Sean P. Holman (24m 22s):

I’m sure that our listeners will have a heyday with

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (24m 24s):

This one. I mean, I’m sure they have like guys like, oh that guy’s a whale. You know, for people who spin big things like that. I’m sure they have tire kickers, all that stuff. But there’s, I’m sure there’s all like, like glossary of terms that

Sean P. Holman (24m 35s):

They have. All right, listeners, you know the homework assignment,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (24m 39s):

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