Mini Truck Alert!!! This episode is a love letter to minitruckers everywhere, featuring a great story about Randy Fredericks’ 2Ballistic tribute build. The Truck Show Podcast is brought to you by Holman & Lightning.



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Lightning (0s):

All, right? Holman, what are you pouring over there?

Holman (3s):


Lightning (5s):

What does it say? Chicken. Something on there.

Holman (7s):

This is chicken cock. This is Island Rooster, which is a, a good one. Now I’ve poured you a, a, a shot of it. All, right? What are we doing? Are we shooting it? We sipping. We

Lightning (17s):

Are, I think we’re sipping. don don’t know if I can shoot this thing. Are you going to Oh, he’s sucking it down. Damn. Wow. I’ll

Holman (25s):

Try. That wasn’t harsh at all.

Lightning (26s):

No All, right? Let, let, lemme try here.

Holman (28s):

Oh, he’s oh, oh, he’s, oh, he’s got the shaky. Woo. Wow. You breathing fire yet? Wow.

Lightning (34s):

That is, that’s, that’s mean. That’s got a bite.

Holman (37s):

This doesn’t have a bite. Whatcha talking

Lightning (39s):

About? Why is it a, I mean, it’s, it’s got some flavor to it.

Holman (43s):

This here is only 95 proof.

Lightning (45s):

Holy Nike. So I’m gonna make it through this show.

Holman (48s):

How much, do you think I probably put three times in my glass? what you have in your little shot there. You’re a

Lightning (53s):

Professional. I’m not a

Holman (54s):

Professional. You

Lightning (55s):

Are professional. I don’t drink whiskey and bourbon. Oh, it’s so good. Wow. I mean, it smells good, but it tastes

Holman (1m 1s):

Yeah, this was done in rum barrels. So that wasn, holy crap. Finished in rum barrels. Holy

Lightning (1m 3s):

Crap. I love the smell, but the taste is just, I’m not accustomed to it. hold on. It’s nothing like the sour beers that I like. hold on.

Holman (1m 10s):

Here we go. All,

Lightning (1m 12s):

Right? Holy crap. Lemme just down some Dr. Pepper afterwards. Here I go.

Holman (1m 16s):

You can’t have a Dr. Pepper chaser after having good whiskey.

Lightning (1m 19s):

I just did. Yeah. It’s The Truck Show Podcast. How you guys doing? It’s episode season, whatever we are at, this

Holman (1m 28s):

Is episode 18, season two. Wow. Maybe I shouldn’t start the show with giving you some rye whiskey. I’m not

Lightning (1m 34s):

Already drunk, but I will end up there at some point.

Holman (1m 37s):

I’m awake now. All,

Lightning (1m 38s):

Right? So. we are gonna be checking in with a gentleman named Randy Fredericks. You don’t know Randy unless you live in Tampa, Florida. But Randy owns what will soon be one of the most famous Mini trucks on the planet called

Holman (1m 52s):

Two Legit to Quit. Nope. Live Crew. Two, two Life Crew reference. Was that 1990 ish? I think

Lightning (1m 60s):

Some of the younger listeners who you’re talking

Holman (2m 1s):

About. Listen, you know what’s funny? This is this the, the truck is

Lightning (2m 4s):

Called too Ballistic. F y

Holman (2m 5s):

I. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. About, about who caress about trucks right now. So I had this really, no, this is serious. It’s The, Truck, Show Podcast. I get, I get it. that wasn plenty of time talking about trucks. Okay. I had this really interesting conversation with my daughter the other day. Mm. So my older daughter is super into music, super loves vinyls and the sixties and seventies and was talking about music class and how she was like, what are your favorite, most influential albums of all time? Or she was asking you this. Yeah, she was, ’cause that wasn a exercise in a class. So that wasn an interesting conversation. She’s 15, she’ll be 16 in a few months and we’re driving and she’s like, you know, for me it’s The Beatles and it’s so and so. She names a few bands off and they’re wholesome and they’re, they’re, they are major milestones.

Holman (2m 50s):

And I said, okay, are you talking about the Best album, your favorite album? Or are you talking about something influential? She goes, well, the,

Lightning (2m 58s):

Or something that was critically acclaimed that

Holman (2m 60s):

Wasn influential. So I said All, right. I’m gonna, and this is probably not appropriate for a 15 year old, but I felt like Because We were talking about music. She had to be at least, what do they say? Tertiary aware of, of what, where I’m going.

Lightning (3m 20s):


Holman (3m 21s):

So I said this is probably not the popular choice, but I will stand by it.

Lightning (3m 25s):

You did not say to Life Crew

Holman (3m 27s):

N w a Straight Outta Compton. That

Lightning (3m 29s):

Is, you can’t argue with that.

Holman (3m 30s):

And the reason for that, as you well know, is that had a landmark Supreme Court case for the First Amendment. And that’s what started all the parental advisory lyric stickers and all that stuff.

Lightning (3m 40s):

Was that before Two Live Crew

Holman (3m 41s):


Lightning (3m 42s):

Because I think two live crew had the same issue because that wasn so foul.

Holman (3m 45s):


Lightning (3m 46s):

That so many women were so upset about that.

Holman (3m 48s):

Well, everything, I mean, if you cannot do, you know, Steven Spielberg came out this weekend and said, I never should have re-edited et without the guns. Because music and movies should stand on their own for the time period they represent. In fact, I just saw that a full metal jacket was re-released and remastered in in HD four K.

Lightning (4m 8s):

Don’t tell me they took out the part where he shot himself. Oh No. No, no.

Holman (4m 10s):

They re the whole thing is is is remastered the way, but it’s beautiful. And that movie is crazy. And, and there are things that are not socially appropriate by today’s standards, I guess you could say. Right. But it stands for the time it represented. And, and Straight Outta Compton with n w a also stands That ground of that wasn a revolutionary album when it came out, it pushed all the boundaries. You couldn’t have a more influential album than that album at that moment in time, regardless of how you feel about it, you may hate it. You may hate the music, you may hate the, the substance. You may hate the, you know, the, the vibe or, or any of that stuff doesn’t matter.

Holman (4m 51s):

The fact is that that took the entire music industry in new direction. So this, to me, that was sort of this conversation we had, which I thought was kind of interesting. And So, we kind of argued back and forth on a few different

Lightning (5m 2s):

Bands. And she, was she familiar with No, the nwa a she

Holman (5m 5s):

Was not. I, and I wouldn’t expect her to be, but I think she might’ve been mortified. Well, that’s

Lightning (5m 10s):

Where the, why wouldn’t she be because she, she’s going back to The Beatles, which by the way, were, were, they were druggies and stuff like that. You know what I mean? Like, they weren’t that wholesome. We think they were wholesome. Well, you know, some people do, but they weren’t compared to you

Holman (5m 22s):

Compared to n w

Lightning (5m 23s):

I don’t know. You’re wait a minute.

Holman (5m 25s):

Time period. I don know what

Lightning (5m 26s):

Guys in NWA were doing, they’re smoking a lot, a ton of weeded and maybe they’re slinging shooting crack back and stuff and shooting people. Allegedly. I’m not, we

Holman (5m 35s):

Well, and then you think of everybody who came out of nwa a Right.

Lightning (5m 40s):

Dr. Dre did not not go onto any kind of thing. Yeah.

Holman (5m 42s):

Don’t worry about Ice Cube or Dr. Dre. They mean nothing to the, to the industry. Right. Right. I mean there’s some, it’s not only like this, this was don don’t wanna use the word super band. They weren’t a super band, but the fact that they spun off into amazing careers in their own right. Is pretty phenomenal. And it wasn’t just one of ’em. Right. I mean, it that to me, that took the, the industry by storm. So there anyway, that was a inter, and this conversation happened in a pickup truck. Fair enough.

Lightning (6m 9s):

What? Pickup truck.

Holman (6m 10s):

The Titan xd. That’s out in my driveway. Yeah,

Lightning (6m 13s):

I saw that. that wasn still sitting there. Very interesting. And it’s still there and lot more

Holman (6m 18s):

Miles on

Lightning (6m 18s):

It. And Lightning has not driven it yet.

Holman (6m 21s):

Hmm. Huh. Oh, that’s weird. Did you say we had somebody call at some point? Yeah,

Lightning (6m 26s):

We’re gonna be talking to Randy Fredericks, owner of Tube Ballistic. So Tub Ballistic is about to be one of the most, I I think if he gets some press on, well, where’s he gonna get pressed? There’s no Mini truck and magazine anymore. No, there’s still

Holman (6m 37s):

Who, who’s public out there, right? I mean, there’s still a few.

Lightning (6m 40s):

Yeah, I guess like he’s gonna be up to the internet. don don’t know.

Holman (6m 43s):

Truck show podcasts,

Lightning (6m 44s):

Truck show podcast. And do kids care about Mini trucks? I don’t know that it’s come full circle yet. They’re not. Who cares? They’re not cool. Like the Japanese cars. Yeah, but who

Holman (6m 50s):

Care? Who cares if kids care about it? You just care if anybody caress about it. You want the people who can actually appreciate and afford it. If kids care about it, great. But who cares? Do

Lightning (7m 0s):

I have a feeling you’re gonna care about his truck, Mr. Holman?

Holman (7m 3s):

More or less than I care about the Titan xd.

Lightning (7m 7s):

I think, Ooh, that’s a tough one. Maybe a little bit less because the, the Titan XD is something that you have in your driveway and you can it every day. Use it to the desert Exactly where you

Holman (7m 17s):

Probably, which I’ll be can’t this weekend. So, so my dad and I are heading out to our yearly man trip. This is like year 53 of this thing or something like that. Okay. Three generations go out there and we, we we’re doing our, our our thing. And now this

Lightning (7m 28s):

Is where you own a plot of land out in the desert and you have mining rights.

Holman (7m 31s):

No, no. It’s a mining claim. We don’t own it. Still B lmm

Lightning (7m 33s):

Land. Okay. So whatever you have a mining claim but you like, you just, you’re sifting through dirt. It’s not like a cool thing where you’re panning for gold. We

Holman (7m 39s):

Do pan for gold. How do you think you take it out of the dry washer? We have a giant big swimming. Bt there’s where and where’s the river? And you pan for gold. Really?

Lightning (7m 46s):

So you’re just, where you just digging it out of the ground, dig

Holman (7m 48s):

It outta the ground. It goes through the dry washer. You take the, the, the what the dry washer has put in the riffles and then you dump ’em into a, a bucket and you bring the bucket over the pan of water in front of the big water tub thing. And you pan right there.

Lightning (8m 1s):

And who’s got all this equipment? it just sitting out there? No, the guys. What, who’s, who’s the

Holman (8m 4s):

Guys? My dad’s friends. So I was gonna take the Jeep, but I’m taking the XD now ’cause a, I have the XD and my dad and I normally cook like 25 ribeyes of maybe 30 for Saturday night dinner. And my dad’s like, Hey, do you think we could do a brisket out there this year? And I’m like, yeah, I got room for the smoker. I would just take the truck. So now it’s morphed into, we’re taking the titan out there ’cause I bring my smoker and all the stuff I need and we’re gonna smoke a brisket in the middle of the desert for our group. That’s pretty cool.

Lightning (8m 31s):

You could not do that with your other vehicles.

Holman (8m 33s):

No. I I, you know, the Wrangler doesn’t have enough room for a what you gotta

Lightning (8m 36s):

Put on top

Holman (8m 37s):

Four foot and high smoker and all that stuff. So throwing it in the, in the XD and all of our camping gear and got the shift pods all dried out from the rain and we’re, we’re, we’re ready to go. So anyway, so

Lightning (8m 48s):

What, when, when do I show up?

Holman (8m 50s):

You can show up Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night or Sunday. Although Sunday’s probably not gonna be very fun ’cause we’re gonna be cleaning up and then I have to hit a red eye to Detroit.

Lightning (8m 58s):

I’ve asked you for directions and a and a date for this thing before. Strangely I don’t get,

Holman (9m 3s):

You don’t think you’re available this

Lightning (9m 4s):

Weekend? Yeah. Yeah. I also was not invited.

Holman (9m 6s):

But you weren’t available so it wouldn’t have mattered anyway.

Lightning (9m 8s):

You don’t know that you didn’t ask, but I

Holman (9m 10s):

Pretty sure that you said you’re waxing your my back. Sure. Okay. Moving right along All. right. Well if you need a, a truck that can haul your smoker out to the desert so that you can cook. Delicious briskets. Oh

Lightning (9m 28s):

God. what is this stuff I’m drinking again? It’s

Holman (9m 30s):

Rye whiskey.

Lightning (9m 30s):

Rye whiskey. Woo.

Holman (9m 32s):

Do you want me here? Do you need something more subtle? No,

Lightning (9m 35s):


Holman (9m 36s):

I’m good. I was gonna introduce you to the Jefferson’s very small batch of ocean. A very small batch. Yeah. Because that would be something that I think would be a little less harsh on you. I think

Lightning (9m 42s):

I had some of that when I was at Florida truck

Holman (9m 44s):

Meet tummy Toms. Yeah.

Lightning (9m 45s):

Hmm. Keep going. Talking about Nissan. Whatever you doing.

Holman (9m 47s):

Yeah. Nissan Titan, take it. Smoker out in the desert. You got And I mean, it’s got Titan boxes. I put all my guns in there. ’cause you know how when you bring guns to the desert, they don’t, you really want ’em in the cab? ’cause your cab has other stuff. and then your ammo in California, there’s rules about ammo separate. Sure.

Lightning (10m 2s):

And, and the Titan boxes are

Holman (10m 4s):

Lockable. They’re lockable. So I’m gonna put all my long guns in the, in the Titan boxes. So it’s perfect. That’s a great use for it. Then I’ve like, I’ve, like I said, I’ve got all, all my gear. So we’re gonna go out there. If you need a truck that’s capable of getting loaded up and going on an Adventure, I highly recommend the Titan Pro four x four by four, or in my case the Titan XD Platinum Reserve, which will have all the luxuries while we head on out to the desert. And

Lightning (10m 25s):

What would, what would happen if you rolled into a Nissan dealer with a long gun and said, I’m just curious if it’ll fit in here.

Holman (10m 32s):

When they, they freak I’d be, hopefully it would be a, an awesome experience. They’d be like, oh yeah, hold on. How long is it? Let’s, let’s try it out. That’s, I mean, that’s my people right there

Lightning (10m 39s):

Because Nissan’s so awesome. They would get it. Listen,

Holman (10m 41s):

They, you know, Nissan owners go hunting. They get it. You need a place for your guns. It’s perfect. Okay, I’ll put all my stuff in there and it’s lockable and I’m good to go. So if you need a Nissan Frontier, Nissan Titan, Nissan Titan next D, head on to your local Nissan dealer or head to the website. You can build in price at Nissan

Lightning (10m 58s):

And if you’ve got a Diesel pickup truck, maybe a half ton, a three quarter, one ton, and you’re looking for better performance and better fuel economy, whether it’s a Ford, a Ram, or GM Chevy, can

Holman (11m 8s):

You say that?

Lightning (11m 10s):


Holman (11m 10s):

Is it? Proven better fuel economy.

Lightning (11m 13s):

I am allowed to say better fuel economy, but I cannot give like three mpg, four mpg, 6.2 mpg, whatever it is.

Holman (11m 20s):

So what you’re really trying to say is it’s more efficient, it is

Lightning (11m 23s):

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Holman (11m 51s):

All. right. Well now that you know how to optimize your truck and it’s powertrain, you probably need some better suspension. So I’m gonna Nice tie in there. Thank you. So I’m gonna refer you over to bill Bilstein because Bill Stein’s the original innovator of the Mon tube shock. And most of their shocks are made right here in the United States in STO Ohio. If you didn’t know that, what? Yeah, I didn’t know that. Bill Bilstein has something for you guys out there who have a daily driver and you got blown out shocks. Or if you have towing and you need more control. Or if you’re an off roader and you want sublime Offroad performance to soak up all those terra firma undulations. That’s funny ’cause I actually saw Terra firma undulations at the Troubadour. They were playing crazy loud set. Oh that wasn. Wow. Because the drummer got pissed off and just walked off. That’s a band name. Said Yeah.

Holman (12m 31s):

I, I actually like Righteous bypass. That’s my favorite band. Did they open up for Terra from Undulations? No, the dual mono tubes were the Oh, dual mono tube mono. Yeah. That’s, that’s awesome. They were like the, were they go figure. They were unannounced. Really? Yeah, they just came, they started riffing. Like they didn’t even have an Lemme guess that wasn super smooth. Yep. All. right? Well if you’re looking for a shock solution for your ride, you definitely wanna pick up Bill Stein’s. I use ’em on my vehicle and I got ’em too, dude. I get some Black Hawk E Squareds. All. right. Well how, how do you like those things by the way? Loving them. Like I Seriously loving it. I’m constantly impressed by How. much control you have in that dam truck because of those shocks. It’s, they did a really nice job. They sure did.

Holman (13m 11s):

So again, it’s bill Bilstein for your monotube shock needs. So when I’m romping into the T R X Offroad and I don’t wanna get lost Holman, what do I do? Wanna go to onX Offroad dot com or head to the app store on your Google or Apple device and download the onX Offroad map app. It is built for Adventure has everything you need from landowner details to trail open dates, weather forecast. It’s all in one app that’s designed specifically for off roaders. What if I wanna display it on my big ass 12 inch screen? Well onX Offroad is compatible with both CarPlay and Android Auto. It features thousands of off-road trails, public and private land info. You can save your maps for offline use in case you don’t have cell service. You can customize it with markups.

Holman (13m 52s):

You can track, save, and share trips and check this out. There’s a brand new feature that I love and that is Route Builder. It’s a new game changing feature either in the app or on your browser. It’s a simple way to drop and plan a trip and then share it with your friends. So lighting, if I’m going to the desert, I could send you if I wanted to. You won directions. But you won’t. You won’t. And the trip won’t. So that you could have it the night before and study. And I have onX Offroad and you still wouldn’t send it to me. Well then maybe you need to build a trail and then send it to me for us to go on. And you can surprise me. What would be funny is if I designed a trip and you went on and you came back and you realized the shape I sent you on, I think by zooming out I would realize that right away the new route builders available to both premium and elite members, you can subscribe online. Being prepared is all about having the right tools.

Holman (14m 34s):

And when I go on adventures, I use onX. Offroad. So do I

2 (14m 38s):

The truck show. We’re gonna show you what we know. We’re gonna answer What? The truck truck rides with the truck show. We have the Lifted. We have the lowered and everything in between. We’ll talk about trucks that run on Diesel and the ones that run on gasoline. The truck show. The truck show. The truck show.

3 (15m 10s):

It’s the truck show with your hosts. Lightning and Holman. Oh,

2 (15m 15s):

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Holman (15m 19s):

It’s another show. Oh. Please turn your podcast off or you’ll hear us talk.

Lightning (15m 25s):

It’s been a long time since we’ve talked Mini Truckin. What? Let’s call Randy Fredericks out there in Florida. You don’t like the way I say it?

Holman (15m 36s):

What? Cartoon character Florida. That was don Don’t know. It’s crap. That reminds me of somebody Florida. It’s weird as

Lightning (15m 44s):


Holman (15m 45s):

Just, just call the Man Florida.

Lightning (15m 55s):

Hello Randy Lightning and Holman Truck show podcast. How. you doing Good, sir? How are you? Fantastic. So there’s two of us. You got Lightning, me and Holman say hi.

Holman (16m 5s):


Lightning (16m 6s):

There’s our are are you, are you driving? ’cause you’re an over the road trucker, correct? Yes sir. I drive for, I don’t big, let’s say Big Brown. Big Brown? Yeah. Oh,

Holman (16m 16s):

Okay. So what are you hauling right now? Some ass,

Lightning (16m 19s):

Yeah, definitely hauling ass for sure.

Holman (16m 22s):


Lightning (16m 23s):

We are in Ohio. Heading to Kansas. Nice. What do, what do you drive Tractor trailer? I, I know we, so the reason we ask is we’re big Peter Peterbilt,

Holman (16m 33s):

Long nose, long nose u s has have long nose. They have like Cascadia or something.

Lightning (16m 38s):

Yeah, we did. We had one of those and they, they put us in an international, and let me tell you something. This is the biggest p o s

Holman (16m 44s):


Lightning (16m 45s):

Ever. Sorry. It’s all good, bro. Like I said, the last one we had, we had a Cascadia like you said, and that truck was awesome. We put over 700,000 miles of no issues. This one we got with 200 miles on it and it’s rattling and I mean it just, the biggest piece. I wouldn’t recommend one of these ever. Do you, do you have any say in this decision or not you just, the driver to give

Holman (17m 8s):

You the company goes, here’s your keys, dude,

Lightning (17m 10s):

There you go. Exactly. 100. But they don’t give a shit about us, to be honest with you.

Holman (17m 14s):

Aw. Have you ever thought about jumping sides to those other guys? Or are they just as bad? Nah,

Lightning (17m 18s):

I would imagine they’re just as bad. I’ve been here 29 years, so I’ve got too much time invested here.

Holman (17m 23s):

Oh, you have to stay because Yes, sir. U P ss benefits wise and retirement is really solid. Oh,

Lightning (17m 29s):

He, he didn’t say u p s I

Holman (17m 30s):

Mean Big brown. Sorry. Sorry. You

Lightning (17m 32s):

Just put, it’s all the same. He’ll bleed me out. I mean, if you guys say I can, I know If you could, if I could say u p s I’ll say u p s. like I said, I’ve been here 29 years, man, I’ve been here way too long.

Holman (17m 42s):

So when you’re driving over the road in your crappy international and it’s all rattly and stuff, please tell me you have like a 1980s headset that weighs about eight pounds that covers one ear and has like the Britney Spears mic in front of your mouth.

Lightning (17m 57s):

It’s the bigger king special. Right? You’re exactly right, sir. I do have that on right now as we speak. Nice. Okay. The reason we’re calling you, I think we all know,

Holman (18m 9s):

Is to talk about being an over the road trucker. Duh.

Lightning (18m 12s):

That that true. No, there you go. Right. He owns what could be the coolest modern yet old Mini truck on the planet called Two Ballistic. Like it. We need to hear the story behind it. First, can you tell us about the magazine cover truck on Mini truck and that stole your heart? Actually that would be 1993 was on the cover. Ah, pat Nichols Ballistic Beautiful truck, 15 inch Ron Alls, you know, painted the Porsche raspberry color. And it’s actually one of the, that wasn the first body drop truck on the cover of Mini trucker. So wait, they were all just, they were just just suspension drops prior to that?

Lightning (18m 52s):

Prior to that? Yes sir. Yes sir. That was the very first body drop cover truck on Mini Truckin magazine. Not saying that wasn the first one done, but that wasn actually the first one on the cover.

Holman (19m 3s):

We’re gonna, we’re gonna not fact check you on that and we’re gonna go with it.

Lightning (19m 6s):

Do we have any idea who the, the blonde chick is on the cover? Because I have, she’s, she’s that that cover still ages. Well, Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. I have no idea who she is. Real

Holman (19m 19s):

Political way of asking a really dumb question.

Lightning (19m 25s):

Yeah. Her assets still, still looking today Easy. Yes. Easy

Holman (19m 28s):

All, right? Yeah. As HR for The, Truck, Show Podcast, I have to tell you. Easy. Yeah.

Lightning (19m 32s):

Okay. So then Randy, that truck that was on the cover, you said of 94, apparently No, 93, I’m sorry. Sorry. 93 was dismantled. Yes sir. Right. that wasn taken apart. I guess no one knows where it is today. What, what do you, what else do you know about that particular Toyota? That particular Toyota? It, well it started its life out as a black standard cap Toyota. I talked to Pat Nichol, the owner of that once I started this idea of recreating that iconic truck and he gave me his blessing. And from what I know, that thing has been cut up and put in dumpsters. I mean, there’s a few little parts floating around here and there, but that’s about it.

Holman (20m 12s):

And actually that was what I was gonna ask you is, is if you got the okay from the original builder to, to make your tribute truck to that bad boy.

Lightning (20m 20s):

Oh yeah, absolutely. I reached out to him and told him I had this idea, like I said, I’ve been having, me and my buddy Tim Gilbert and his brother Todd Gilbert, we’ve known each other for 25 plus years. And we’d always thought, Hey man, why hasn’t anybody made a real, you know, real period. Correct tribute truck to that truck. And there was one gentleman that did it that wasn a standard cab. When that wasn it, it had two variations. It had the raspberry and then it went like a California safety orange. And that wasn in the soundstream ad don don’t know if you guys remember that or not. Mm, no. But yeah, a gentleman made a recreation of that. To me, my opinion, it wasn’t very correct. He took too many liberties.

Lightning (21m 1s):

Just my opinion now, you know, and I just, that truck is so iconic. The, the raspberry color. I think there’s only one way to do that truck. And that’s in Raspberry All. right. And so before you, before Randy, before you tell us about the specifics of the truck, we gotta play a quick intro. So don’t move

2 (21m 21s):

Truck tells. Truck tells and fails. Try tales, try tales, tri tails and fails. Are you still working on that old truck? Man? You’ll never finish any stupid schmuck.

6 (21m 37s):

Oh yes, I will look, get her up and running and then I’ll cruise by and I’ll come running.

2 (21m 42s):

So come on Dan and finish it up. I wanna hear what it took to build this truck.

6 (21m 48s):

Well the truck is done in all its glory. Come on, sit down. I’ll tell you the story.

2 (21m 54s):

Truck tails and fails.

Holman (21m 59s):

One of our worst jingles truck tails.

2 (22m 3s):

I think it iss the longest one we have. Do you

Holman (22m 4s):

Think he’s sitting down right now to tell us a story?

2 (22m 7s):


Lightning (22m 8s):

So. Okay. You start on this Adventure 10 years ago in collecting parts. Yes. I, I had been collecting parts over 10 years to build this truck. and then right around 2018, 19, I had reached out to, because to me that truck is the color and then the wheels, right? The, the Ron r nines is iconic Wheel. I contact b a d to do a Ronald R nine. He says, sure. He does a CAD drawing and then I don’t hear anything from the gentleman ever again. So I kind of got discouraged and, and contacted Michael over at Colorado Custom and said, Hey, I want to do this.

Lightning (22m 53s):

Are you willing to do this? And he said, absolutely. I said, well, I’m going to send you a, I had an n o s brand new Ronald R nine. Oh wow. I said, I’m gonna send you Yeah. And the center cap. I said, I’m gonna send you that and I want you to make it exactly like that. Wheel not kind of sorta, or it looks like I said I’m not gonna spend this kind of money and get a Wheel that doesn’t resemble what I want. so Yeah

Holman (23m 18s):

It, it kind of doing, it reminds you for, for people who, who are wondering what the Wheel looks like. It’s like a, it’s a, it’s a very traditional five spoke, but it has, like if you look at the stars, it’s a star pattern five spoke, the edges of it are chafer down. So they like stair step down for

Lightning (23m 34s):

Of like a half an inch or or so down. Right?

Holman (23m 37s):

I mean, I, don don don’t think it’s even that much. and then it’s got the lug nuts rather than being recessed like in a lot of wheels. They’re actually, the, the what houses, the lug nuts are where the studs go through is actually raised on the Wheel. And it almost reminds you of like a, an old mag from like a Italian race car, like a Ferrari or Lamborghini or something like that. It’s, it’s a, it’s a, it’s a Wheel that looked good on almost anything. And you could get ’em in gold and chrome, you could get ’em in polished. I I think you could even get ’em just in like a, a, a silver paint too. And they were on all sorts of stuff and they looked good on everything.

Lightning (24m 12s):

I saw ’em a lot polished and white for whatever reason.

Holman (24m 15s):

Yeah. Y remember whites. Yeah, yeah,

Lightning (24m 17s):

Yeah. Absolutely. You could also get them, you would see them on Mercedes AMGs or you would also see him on Fox Body Mustangs.

Holman (24m 26s):

Oh yeah. I didn’t think about that. Yeah.

Lightning (24m 27s):

Yeah. Okay. Now you went one step further and you carried that pattern over to the steering Wheel, correct? Correct. I had, at first he and Michael made the steering Wheel first. And I had got Covid and I was, and, and let me explain this. I had got Covid and was almost died. I was in the hospital and this is what type of business or person Michael is at Colorado Custom. He called me just to see how I was doing. ’cause he hadn’t heard from me in a while. ’cause I’d touched base with him. He’s like, oh, we’re getting on the wheels and you know, just, you know, it would just draw on and on. And every month I’d call him, Hey, you getting on the wheels? Hey you getting on the wheels? And finally he called me and said, Hey, I haven’t heard from you in a while. See how you’re doing. I said, well actually I’m in the hospital.

Lightning (25m 8s):

I almost died with Covid. And he goes, well I’ve got your steering Wheel done and we’re doing, we’re starting the wheels now. And please don’t

Holman (25m 14s):

Die before you pay me

Lightning (25m 17s):

No abs. Absolutely. Absolutely right. But yeah, he’s a standup guy, man. I couldn’t, I couldn’t ask for a better company to deal with as far as that goes. And yeah, those wheels are dead on exactly to the, to the Wheel. And You said, what size were they? 7, 15, 16, 17? No, no. The original ones on the, on the, on the original Ballistic were fifteens. Right. and then I went a step more, I did 18 by Sevens

Holman (25m 45s):

You. know what that reminds me of? It reminds me of our, our buddy Matt, the moderator. Oh, Deandre. Deandre. And he has that on his F one 50 Lightning, which originally came with fifteens and I think on his truck, aren’t they eighteens or something like that. He had basically that Lightning Wheel replicated in in billet. And he up si upped the size on ’em, which I

Lightning (26m 4s):

Thought he went even bigger.

Holman (26m 5s):

I could be. They might be, they might be twenties. Yeah. But same kind of deal. I love when somebody takes a classic Wheel and then scales it up because you still get the flavor of the original, but you still have, like, you’ve still brought it into, into this modern, you know, era century. Yeah, sure.

Lightning (26m 20s):

Absolutely. And if you look behind the front wheels, I did Willwood six piston big brake kit in the front than a single pi piston in the rear. Never heard of

Holman (26m 28s):


Lightning (26m 28s):

Yeah. I have more, I have more pistons in my calipers than in my motor, which is Sad.

Holman (26m 35s):

We, we have a good relationship with the guys at Willwood. We absolutely love the product. Yeah.

Lightning (26m 39s):

In in the last Oh absolutely in the last episode they gave us an exclusive tour behind the scenes and we won So. we, we saw how the sausage was made, so to speak. Wait a minute,

Holman (26m 47s):

Why is it, oh wow. When I say how the sausage is made, you say it’s gross and, and how can you say that? and then now you’re like, oh, the sausage being made now you’re fine with it.

Lightning (26m 55s):

It’s gross when you say it. I don’t know what to tell you. It’s what Stealing your thunder, ain’t he?

Holman (26m 60s):

Well he is Lightning

Lightning (27m 1s):

Little bit. See what you did

Holman (27m 3s):


Lightning (27m 4s):

This is what I did there. So you have this bag on air, which the original Ballistic was, I can’t imagine that wasn on air, right? that wasn body dropped. I Yeah, that wasn body dropped. I, to be honest with you, caught me off guard on that one. I don’t know the actual suspend, I would imagine it’s, it’s hydros. Yeah, I guess that era that wasn just hydraulics. They weren’t really, there was air back then, but that wasn really

Holman (27m 27s):

A novelty that way.

Lightning (27m 28s):

Primitive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of novelty. Well, Air shocks right, right. Air shocks maybe. So yours is down. What kind of air suspension do you have under there? I Have via air for compressors. I have a Chad, Chris manifold and, and hand controller. And I’ve got slam specialty bags In that era. Guys were doing some walkthroughs, right? Which you could, you cut out, you marry the, the cab and the bed. So you could recline all the way down or you could carry your, your sub box into the cab. Is yours done that way or, or how was the original one then and, and yours? No, the original one just had the window out. There was no walkthrough. Right.

Lightning (28m 8s):

Mine has no walkthrough as well. it just, the back window, the boxes in the back window through the, through the shell or topper. Which however you, where you’re from in the United States, it depends on what you call it. In Florida we call it a topper, but in like Maryland and pa they call it a, a cap. Right. I, i, I don’t know what you guys called it over there. It’s a shell out here. Yeah, we’re a shell out here. Yeah. And then I guess Washington’s canopy.

Holman (28m 33s):

Yeah. They’re just

Lightning (28m 34s):

Weird. Yeah, that what the hell is this You? know what I mean? That’s, to

Holman (28m 37s):

Me a canopy is something soft.

Lightning (28m 38s):

Nah, it’s like calling the hood a bonnet or what? What’s a bonnet? Is that the hood? No,

Holman (28m 42s):

A bonnet is

Lightning (28m 43s):

The cow. That’s the cow. Yeah. Mm. Yeah. it just weird Stop it, stop with a weird lingo. It’s a shell. It’s a freaking shell. It’s a shell that goes on it. Yeah. Florida. It’s a topper. That’s what we call it. so Yeah it’s through the topper. don don’t know if you guys should check it out. The box is amazing. It’s all lexan. It’s a three quarter inch thick lexan. The whole box is all one piece. No, as far as there

Holman (29m 6s):

Lighting’s familiar with three quarters of an inch thick.

Lightning (29m 8s):

Yes, I am sadly now. Yeah, sadly. Did, did, did kicker give you some equipment for this? They did. They gave me all the wiring and RCAs and the fuses and I sent them back like all the, the, the stereo equipment in the truck is period. Correct. For 1995, I sent the amps back and they went through every amp and That’s awesome. And it plays amazing. Absolutely amazing. So how, how did you find all the original gear? I’m a Mini truck hoarder. Right. I’ve got way more parts than I need. And my, my wife will attest to that. She said if, if something was to happen to me, she’d get one of those, you know, those used car sales things that blow up and the guy’s waving up in the air.

Holman (29m 52s):

Oh my. Yeah. The, the, the the ribbon man that blows with the fan on the bottom

Lightning (29m 57s):

Right? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Absolutely. She would, she would put all the stuff out and then say first sale. But I hunt it down. I mean that’s, to me the fun part is the hunt for products. Right. Like two of the amps that are in the truck I originally bought back in 1995. I had that equipment when I was, you know, again, when you’re young in 95. I couldn’t afford everything that I have now. So I kind of wanted to build it what the way I would’ve built it back then if I had the money. So I just sourced it out eBay pretty much to be honest with you. And some Facebook pages on car audio. So back then, weren’t they like precision power or Orion or Soundstream?

Lightning (30m 37s):

Weren’t those the hot licks back then? Absolutely. And 1995 kicker came out with their first series of amplifiers called the SI Amplifiers. That’s what I bought. Gotcha. That’s two, like I said, two of the amps are the original ones that I’ve had in 1995. And yeah, that was their first run at amplifiers. And I have no issues with them whatsoever. I mean, like I said, I couldn’t say enough about kicker. They sent me I think like $3,500 worth of wiring and, and fuses and RCAs and we’re working on maybe getting in their booth at SEMA with the truck. So. Oh, that’s a no-brainer if you and needs to be there. Yeah. You, you gotta do that. Absolutely. And kicker always. Oh absolutely. They’ve always got a great display in North Hall.

Lightning (31m 17s):

And, and so tell us what’s under the hood in that thing? It just, the 2.4 e f i fuel injected motor that I’ve got quite a bit of lc engineering bits on, like I got the big billet throttle body. I got their billet fuel rail. I got their header billet fan pulley and it just blow in stock, you know, reliability factor in my opinion to drive it to be a cruiser. And this was auto or stick. It is not automatic. That’s the difference between the original Ballistic was a five speed. Mine’s an automatic. Tell me about the interior. ’cause you’ve got kind of a, it’s a little lighter than like a Ferrari tan, but close. And who did the interior?

Lightning (31m 57s):

’cause it’s gorgeous. Yeah, my buddy Matt Reynolds up in Maryland, his, his side business is Charm City upholstery. We, we picked out two different colors of Italian leather. If you notice the top of the dash is a, a darker and the, and the bottom is a lighter, it’s two-tone, which I’ve never really seen anybody do. And, and the leather is amazing. It’s got German square weave carpet throughout the topper and in the cab. And he also works at nasa. He, he’s the one that built my box fun fact is he made a jig for the front face of the box and took it into work and they bent it in their oven. So you can say I have, I have a, a box built by nasa, which I think is pretty cool.

Holman (32m 38s):

If you time traveled back to the nineties, your box would be like made with space age construction or something like that. Like all those, all those things. Right. It’s like the Ginsu 2000

Lightning (32m 48s):

Could be yours for 1999. That’s

Holman (32m 50s):

Right. Four payments. But wait,

Lightning (32m 52s):

There’s more. Yes. You also get audio system. Yeah. At what point in this bill did it actually start to become real and your wife says, You know what Randy, you actually have something cool here and it’s not just a hunk of parts? To be honest with you, my buddies that did did all the work. They’re up in Maryland, Eric Ber and Steven Hanson and Fred Hebron. They, they sent pictures to my wife. I didn’t see my truck until the day that wasn unveiled. Everybody’s seen my truck except me Now. Okay. So that’s great because I saw YouTube video earlier today kind of boning up on your backstory and you were at a truck show at which this was unveiled to you.

Lightning (33m 33s):

Like they did, they pulled it out of the trailer, they had the car cover on it and they did the reveal. How did you feel at that moment when you’re seeing all of these years culminate into one moment? You know, like I said in the video, some pollen got in my eye if You. know what I mean?

Holman (33m 52s):

Absolutely. I hate those windy days especially right when you’re No,

Lightning (33m 55s):

I do.

Holman (33m 56s):

About to have something that, that makes your heart melt.

Lightning (33m 59s):

Like I said, I couldn’t have done this truck without the help of my buddies. You know, I’ve been in negative camber for since 1996 and these guys that did the work, all but two of ’em are in negative Camber. So it’s like a big family and those guys are, are standup guys. If it wasn’t for them, the, the truck would’ve been in the junkyard, to be honest with you.

Holman (34m 17s):

What has a tighter cab? Your, your Toyota or the International that we can hear squeaking in the background?

Lightning (34m 25s):

Oh yeah. That, that’s, no, that’s a no brainer. My Toyota, everything on that thing is brand new. And that, that’s another thing I’m real stickler for. I’m a n OSS kind of guy where I think the factory makes the best parts they do. And trying to find all the rubber seals and, and baskets is nearly impossible now. Like on that truck, no lie, there’s only two parts on that truck that are aftermarket. That’d be the valance and the grill. Everything else is o e m brand new Toyota.

Holman (34m 55s):

And you have to get some of that stuff from Japan and I think South America too, right? Because I think some of those trucks were built down there longer than they were up here. So the supply chain down there is is still alive. Yeah,

Lightning (35m 6s):

It’s still alive. But luckily for me, my daughter works at a Toyota dealer, so I get family discount on parts. So

Holman (35m 13s):

Was it hard to find some of that stuff? Because I know the rubber is for, you go to a rubber’s on like a, a mid nineties Land Cruiser and it’s so hard to find some of that stuff now and there’s just parts that aren’t even made anymore. No,

Lightning (35m 26s):

Absolutely. And, and I tried my best to find everything o e m because aftermarket as you know, does not fit as well as an o e m part. It

Holman (35m 35s):

Just doesn’t, sadly

Lightning (35m 36s):

No. Yeah. Now, so with so many different parts together on this truck, what year do you consider it? Like what’s actually Vin on the chassis? Oh, it’s in 1991. I mean, even though we took the chassis all the way down and had the whole frame powder coated, it’s in 1991 motor and, and trans, the motor’s been gone through. The only thing that hasn’t been gone through is the transmission. I mean that wasn cleaned up and, and you know, put back in the truck. But I had the motor gone through a Toyota mechanic before we started the whole process of cutting it up. And t tell me about, let’s change gears for just a second here. Negative camera we’ve had, I mean, you used to, didn’t you work with an NC member back in the day?

Lightning (36m 16s):

Passed away Holman.

Holman (36m 18s):

Geez. Why is my thanks for calling me outta the car. Not

Lightning (36m 21s):

Courtney. Courtney. Courtney, yeah. Courtney. Courtney Hallowell. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. So like we have, I neither Holman and I or are in a truck club, but like, I feel like we know so many guys, NC members, negative Camber and or separate tires or whatever. And tell me about that for a moment. What is that brotherhood like, the family of negative Camber and how supportive have they been and why even all these years later after like the truck club movement? I, I I just don’t, if you’re not in it, you wouldn’t know about it. Like why still today? What is it, what’s special about it? I wouldn’t have the friends that I have if it wasn’t for this truck club, right. Those guys in Maryland, I would’ve never met those guys had it not been through this truck club.

Lightning (37m 4s):

They wouldn’t have bent over backwards to help me finish this dream or truck that I’d been dreaming about finishing forever. And it’s what’s amazing is we got from coast to coast, even Australia, we’ve got members over there that if they come into town, they know they can call a member and have somewhere to stay or sleep. You know, I mean, it, it, it just like anything, you’re gonna have disagreements, but I wouldn’t change it for the world. The truck club is amazing, you know, it’s, it sets the standard and like at Maggie Valley we had 55 vehicles from West coast to East Coast. All negative Camber at one show. And that wasn amazing. Is negative Camber still growing or is it, I mean how’s the membership today?

Lightning (37m 49s):

Oh, we have over, I I wanna say over 400 members. Okay. I mean it’s, it, it it’s a huge group of truck enthusiasts right? First and then it, it, you couldn’t ask for a better set of guys to be honest with you. And I assume just by defacto, like you end up becoming friends with the wives and the girlfriends and the kids and all that too. Absolutely. They are just as important as a member at in negative can in my eyes. And a lot of the members’ eyes, their wives are just as important because they are the support group. Right. Without your wives supporting you through this whole process, what, what else do you have or

Holman (38m 27s):

As I like to call them the department of War and Finance?

Lightning (38m 31s):

Luckily for me, my wife, I’ve been with her for, since high school, right? 20, she’s gonna kill me 30 years. And she’s not high maintenance. I’m the high maintenance one. I like to go shopping, I like to buy things. So it, she’s never once questioned me about buying for my truck. She’s been there to support me the whole way. So I can’t, I couldn’t ask for a better wife. She, she gets it, you know, I could be out there smoking or drinking or, or clubbing. I just, to me I drive this big brown truck or white truck, whatever you want to call it. And I think about the next project, the next parts, the, the parts hunt. it just, it’s amazing. And so what other minis have you built other than two Ballistic and, and what’s, what’s in your future?

Lightning (39m 13s):

I had built a 1994 Nissan Hard Body that was featured in Mini Truckin back in 2000. Right now I have a 79 Toyota short bed that’s bagged that. I, I’m, I’m, I’ve acquired tons of parts for already. And if you guys have been around the scene, have you ever heard of a butterfly back window?

Holman (39m 32s):

Oh yeah. Yep. that

Lightning (39m 33s):

Wasn. Yeah, I have one of those for that. Very cool. Yep, yep. Very, very rare. Let’s explain what that butterfly back window and when I was up at Sean at Empire Fabrication, he’s got a butterfly back window that’s got some mirroring on it and it’s hanging up in his shop. And there’s a really cool story just about that window and I don’t recall what it is, we could catch up with Sean sometime, but he, he came around, he’s like, you gotta see this window. And me being a dumb ass, I’m like, yeah, that’s awesome. He’s like, well, you don’t know about the butterfly window. what you mor on? I’m like, I, I, I, yeah. And so, but I, I do know that it’s a big deal in the community. It, it is to, and funny story, I, when I bought this truck, ’cause I like the little 70, I’m a Toyota, I’m an everything guy really.

Lightning (40m 16s):

But I bought this truck and I’m like, the only other butterfly window that I’ve ever seen was Tom McMurdo Mazda on the cover of Mini Truckin. Right. that wasn yellow. And, and if you’ve ever seen one of those windows, you would think it’s lex sand or plastic, but it’s actual glass that bends in the middle. It, it’s amazing. So I put on like a Facebook page, you asked me how I find parts, I said, Hey, you’re looking for a butterfly back window. Some kid hit me up and says, I’ve got one. I’m like, yeah, well what do you want for it? Well, I’ve been offered fi 1500, 2000. Oh my. I said, oh yeah. Oh, it, it gets better. You’re, you’re probably gonna think I’m a moron. But I offered him 3000.

Holman (40m 58s):

Wow. Because I wanted it. Yeah. I, yeah. But if that’s the the thing that makes the build you, you have to do it. It’s worth every penny.

Lightning (41m 5s):

Yeah. So he, he, you know, hymns and hollers and, and calls me back, says, Hey, I got a question. I’m like, yeah, what’s up? Hey, can you give me some more money? I’m like, are you outta your mind?

Holman (41m 16s):

I just offered you double what somebody else offered you knucklehead? Yeah,

Lightning (41m 19s):

Yeah. I, yeah. I said, no, no man, if you wanna sell it, sell it. So I had a buddy Craig Bray, that lives in Washington state, go pick it up and ship it through the u p s store and got it to my house in Florida in one piece. Wow. And I was totally ecstatic.

Holman (41m 33s):

Yeah. And was it just the glass or the frame and everything too?

Lightning (41m 36s):

No, everything. Everything. Wow. Yeah. ’cause I told, I told Craig, I said, if that thing breaks, I’m s o l that’s it. You’re not gonna find another one, you know?

Holman (41m 45s):

No, the easiest way to describe it is, if you remember on like a eighties or nineties, king cab, super cab, whatever, that had the pop out side windows on the extended cab. Yep. Imagine a Flad glass rear window. Right. So there’s no slider in the middle. it just a, a Flad piece of glass. Yet somehow without having a hinge in the middle, there is some sort of, you know, mounting point in the middle of that glass. And inside the cab, those same mechanisms that pop out, like a side window on an extended cab pop out maybe two or three inches, the edges of that solid piece of glass. And it just wild because it’s, it’s, it’s, there’s nothing really like it, it looks, when it’s closed, it just looks like a regular full glass back window without a slider.

Holman (42m 32s):

But when you, but from the inside you got those little tabs that you pop out and then you, they kinda lock ’em into place. They pop out those edges on each side, but again, there’s no hinge down the middle. So your view’s not obstructed by anything in the middle of the glass. And when that’s what makes

Lightning (42m 46s):

’em cool. When it’s popped out, you’d think that the glass is gonna break. Right. And the dozen of plexes. Right? Yeah. You, you couldn’t have described it any better than what you did, to be honest with you. That is, that was amazing.

Holman (42m 56s):

Well, thank you. Alright. I’ve done my, I’ve done my part here.

Lightning (42m 59s):

Absolutely. All. right? We’re well done. Thanks for calling. I’ll talk to you later. Well Now well if you, if, if you want, I’ve got another rare piece of Yeah.

Holman (43m 7s):

Wait, wait,

Lightning (43m 8s):

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Before you move on. Who made the butterfly glass and why does it, where what, what was it stock in?

Holman (43m 15s):

It wasn’t stocking

Lightning (43m 16s):

Anything that wasn, I like who made it like that? wasn, where did it come from? that wasn, what’s the story? I wanna say Flex Through is the brand, the, the company. They, they call it, you know, that’s another name Butterfly back window. But it’s also called the Flex through. I don’t know if that was the company’s name or not, but again, I’ve never seen one in person until I actually owned one. To be honest with you. I feel like that’s a deep dive we need to go on because it’s that window that’s a rabbit hole. Well, that, well that window is the holy grail from, from the Mini truck scene. Like if you have one of those windows, that’s it.

Holman (43m 47s):

Well, and you, you can talk, I mean basically it’s, it, everybody spells it Flex and then through T H R U, but they all spell it Correct. A hundred different ways. Whether there’s a hyphen or it’s one word or it’s capitalized or it’s not. I’ve heard flex through, I’ve heard butterfly, but I, I actually don’t know who

Lightning (44m 5s):

We need to find out who made it. This would be fascinating. Yeah. That as, as I was gonna tell you another part that I’ve got you. Do you guys remember C Lawrence? Yeah, of course. C Lawrence is in here in Southern California. They are c Lawrence is famous for making the drive-through window. So when you’re going through a McDonald’s and there’s a stainless steel like ledge where you, the guy reaches out and puts his elbows on as he reaches to give you your change in your food. Right. That will have a look at the next one. When you drive through, there’ll be a, a badge that says Cr Lawrence. And they’re, they’re actually avid off rotors here in Southern California.

Holman (44m 37s):

They, they do basically window glazing and things like that on, on for architectural things on buildings. They do that

Lightning (44m 43s):

Too. Is

Holman (44m 44s):

Is kind of what their, their main deal is.

Lightning (44m 45s):

The one that I went to, shower door

Holman (44m 47s):

Hardware, things like that.

Lightning (44m 48s):

The cr Lawrence that I went to, dude, they had a machine that was 200 feet long that made not tostadas, what do you call ’em?

Holman (44m 60s):

Tostadas? No broaches. The machine that makes tostadas Oh No

Lightning (45m 4s):

Taquitos. Oh god Dammit. Tortillas. Chalupas Sierra Lawrence was when I was there.

Holman (45m 9s):

Now I want a taco,

Lightning (45m 10s):

A buddy of mine, Steve worked there and showed me this machine where that wasn 200 feet long and they made tortillas, they put all the raw ingredients on one side and tortillas came out the other side and they would sell them to like Frito-Lay or whoever. And that wasn all stainless steel everything on this machine. Oh wow. Was stainless steel that wasn bonkers.

Holman (45m 32s):

Well, yeah, ’cause that wasn making food grade stuff.

Lightning (45m 34s):

I understand it, but I have never personally seen a single machine that was that big before that wasn wild. So anyway, sorry to go on a tangent about Sierra Lawrence, but like they, no, no, they make lot Of stuff. No, that’s awesome. You learn something new. Yeah, they used to make a roll down back window, you know, for your, your extra cab or your standard cab for trucks. Yeah.

Holman (45m 54s):

That wasn a called like a pass through window or something. Right.

Lightning (45m 57s):

Or limo window, whichever you want to call it. Yeah. Okay. We had a club member in New Mexico. I’ll give you a little quick story. Our run used to go out to New Mexico, Albuquerque and he says, Hey, I got one of these CR Lawrence Rolldown back windows for a Mazda. I’m like, what? you know,

Holman (46m 15s):

Tell me

Lightning (46m 15s):

More to me. That’s, that’s a holy grail. Heck, I’ve had it for like 15 years. I said,

Holman (46m 21s):

So you went out and bought a Mazda to fit the glass just so you could have it?

Lightning (46m 25s):

No, no, no, no. I haven’t bought the Mazda yet. Oh, I do have the glass,

Holman (46m 28s):

But now you need the Mazda.

Lightning (46m 29s):

So, exactly. Well what happened was So, we drive out there on our run, our u p ss run and he meets us at the u p s hub in Al Albuquerque. And I throw that window in the back of the empty trailer and drive it all the way back to Orlando.

Holman (46m 44s):


Lightning (46m 44s):

So I didn’t have to pay shipping, I didn’t have to worry about it braking You. know what I’m saying? Yeah. But yeah, I’ve got one of those. And I also have a CR Lawrence Power slider from like an 84 to 88 Toyota as well. Brand new in the box

Holman (46m 59s):

All. right. So while you’ve been talking, I’ve been searching the internet furiously. The company that made that wasn called Levan Levan Specialty Company, they had a trademark back in the late seventies and up through and up through the eighties. But that wasn the Lavan butterfly windows. It would see

Lightning (47m 22s):

A trademark. What do you mean a Oh wow. Not a patented or

Holman (47m 26s):

That wasn A trademark? No, a trademark. Just what I said. Trademark A trademark. You go, you can look at older trademarks and they come up for Lavan Specialty Company. But now what’s interesting is, I, I can’t, in my, in my searching here of, of them, I can find all their different brands. Flex through Starlight Sport, T Top, Vista Bay, Skyport, Lavan. But it doesn’t say we’re Lavan was based out of, so I don, I’m not don don’t have too much info, but that wasn Lavan was the name of the company. So there you

Lightning (47m 55s):

Go. Oh wow. Good to know. We’ve gotta go on a a, a hunt and, and, and track this down. That would be fascinating. Get them on the phone to go No, they’re gone. No, no, no. But I, I get that. But someone dead there is still dead. They’re dead. All of ’em. The designer. Well,

Holman (48m 10s):

What happened was, is one of the, the pieces of glass popped out at the factory and just killed everybody. Just decapitate went out like

Lightning (48m 16s):

A, that wasn like a, a shooting star.

Holman (48m 19s):

A shooting star?

Lightning (48m 19s):

No, no. Like a shooting, throwing,

Holman (48m 21s):

Throwing star. Throwing

Lightning (48m 22s):

Star. And it went around the room and that

Holman (48m 23s):

Was it.

Lightning (48m 23s):

It hit everyone.

Holman (48m 24s):

And after that, there was no more butterfly windows ever made. I have

Lightning (48m 27s):

A feeling that’s not true.

Holman (48m 28s):

Maybe it sounds good. Prove, prove me wrong.

Lightning (48m 30s):

It sounds good. So, Yeah, okay. You’ve got all these interesting artifacts. I feel like you could open a Mini Truckin museum. My wife would say the same thing as well.

Holman (48m 43s):

But why have a museum when you could have an awesome Mini truck? Because

Lightning (48m 46s):

He’s got too many parts to go on a single truck, get more trucks. No, no. There’s never too many parts, man. Never too many parts.

Holman (48m 53s):

Yeah, exactly. The, again, the, the actual name was the flex through, so that wasn, F l e x dash T h r u. So if you want to search on the internet, Lavan Flex through, if you wanna see what the butterfly windows look like. So there you go. I’m

Lightning (49m 7s):

Tracking that thing Down. I’ve got pictures if you want me to send ’em to you.

Holman (49m 9s):

Yeah, sure.

Lightning (49m 10s):

We should post it so people absolutely can see what we are

Holman (49m 12s):

Talking about. Send ’em to Lightning and we’ll, we’ll get ’em up on our socials.

Lightning (49m 15s):

I will definitely. And if

Holman (49m 16s):

You’re lucky, Lightning will send you a sticker. Oh

Lightning (49m 19s):

Me. Send you a sticker. That would be awesome. There’s no way he’s gonna plaster a truck show podcast sticker on that beautiful tub Ballistic.

Holman (49m 24s):

I did say to put it on there. Oh, maybe you will. what? you, what?

Lightning (49m 26s):

What’s the daily toolbox? You’re not cruising Tub Ballistic a as a daily. Are you Oh No? Absolutely not. I’ve got, well, I’ve got several things. I’ve got a 93 crew cap dually that’s hammered on 22 inch Lowboy motor sports wheels. I’ve got a 2016 Golf R and I’ve got a 2022 F three 50 Super Duty. And is everything on the ground? Minus the super Duty. Yeah. The golf R isn’t, it’s got nineteens on it. It’s, it’s a fun car. Other than that. Yeah. and then the 79 Toyota, which is on the ground, I love Low. How do you not love Low? Oh, I love it.

Lightning (50m 6s):

Yeah, I know. I don’t understand it. I don’t, I think anything lowered is, is awesome. I love seeing, I love seeing Lamborghini’s, Ferraris, like that’s a new thing in, in the last couple years. Maybe. Maybe, maybe because of the wide bodies, you know, that the, the, the like Liberty Walk kits that people are doing. But I love seeing a guy like take a 3 55 Berlinetta or, or some other, some old Ferrari that people didn’t care about, buy it and then put it on the ground. And I saw a guy do it for tester. Like that’s, and those have become very, very coveted. Everything looks good when it’s, you know, scraping the concrete hammered abs. Absolutely. Yeah.

Lightning (50m 46s):

Absolutely. What’s the future for Tub Ballistic? Because there’s no more Mini Truckin Magazine. So how does it get out there? How do people see it? Is it

Holman (50m 53s):

The Truck Show Podcast.

Lightning (50m 54s):

You’re on Instagram, right? I am on Instagram. The number two underscore Ballistic. It is that wasn shot for the cover of street trucks at Maggie Valley with a a, a partial cover with another truck. Lolo. We’re hoping that gets on the cover. And that wasn also shot for the Custom Trucks magazine in Japan. Oh, wow. And if you get the a yeah, if you get the April issue, which came out last week, the little, they do like a construction zone set up. It’s in that shoe. and then the full feature’s gonna come out later. Are you reenacting the original Mini Truckin cover with the girl and all that?

Lightning (51m 35s):

We had talked about that. Obviously they won’t put a female on the cover on street trucks, but he said that they could probably do a recreation, I gotta find somewhere. It, it’ll be at the Street Trucks Show in Memorial Day weekend in Ocala, Florida. We’re gonna shoot the feature there and find a model for the, for the cover recreation

Holman (51m 58s):

Furthering my research on, I’m now fascinated with the Lavan flexor window up. I have found an ad. Do you remember what he said online? Do you remember what he said about a rabbit hole? I, I’m already on, I’m about, I’m about to enter the Wiki web and start just clicking links. Oh, Lavan ad. They were from City of Industry here in California. So they were local and they’ve got this ad of this lady standing next to the Flex through totally new from Lavan. There it is. But the problem is the ad is low resolution, so I can’t really read the text. It says something like a single piece of tempered glass, not plastic flex outward. It’s really hard to read all the, this, the, the, the digitized or pixelated text.

Holman (52m 42s):

It says flexes outward at a something. Give your standard or Mini pick up that quote unquote classic look. Flex through tinted glass, minimizes heat gain and increases cab ventilation. And you can remove flex through in just a few minutes for a canopy pass through the flex through another classic from Lavan, the Innovators. There you go. I read that right off an ad I found on the internet.

Lightning (53m 14s):

That’s awesome. That’s awesome.

Holman (53m 16s):

You know what their telephone number. Yeah. This won’t, this won’t mean nothing to, unless you lived in Southern California.

Lightning (53m 21s):

I bet. Can, I guess. Yeah, it’s gonna start with a 2 1 3 2 1 3

Holman (53m 24s):

Dude. Yeah. Yeah. Old school area code from la Yeah.

Lightning (53m 28s):

So, Well, Hey, is Mini Truckin Dismantler still open down there in Calif Southern California or no? You

Holman (53m 34s):

Know don don’t, don don’t think so. I haven’t heard anything from so long.

Lightning (53m 38s):

Don don’t know Holman’s looking stand, but

Holman (53m 40s):

I, but I’ve got the Google here. Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. California. Oh, check it out. Cal Mini Out in Montclair Cal, Mini truck Dismantler. So apparently their website’s around they’re hours of operation are Monday through Friday, eight to five. Saturday, eight to 2:00 PM It’s closed on Sundays, but it looks like they’re still there. And their photo on their website is an aerial photo of a giant yard filled with, with minis. So

Lightning (54m 13s):

I’m gonna get you a double build Sherlock Holmes hat.

Holman (54m 15s):

Why? ’cause I I

Lightning (54m 17s):

You’re straight sleuthing over there. Yeah, right

Holman (54m 19s):

On. I, I look.

Lightning (54m 20s):

Oh, he is straight sleuthing

Holman (54m 22s):

Dude. Cow Mini There it is. California Mini truck Disman. So, wow.

Lightning (54m 27s):

Listen, here’s the thing. I, I love Florida. No, don, don’t. We need I don

Holman (54m 30s):

Love Florida. Need to call them and get them on the show. You,

Lightning (54m 32s):

If you’re a real Mini truck guy, you’d find a lot more parts out here in California. I think just ’cause like, oh, I feel like this was, forgive me, but I, the Mecca, I feel like that wasn the mecca of Mini Truckin. I mean, when we would go down absolutely to like Newport Beach on the weekends or Huntington or whatever, all along P c h all you’d see were minis booming. You know, like the whole, you know, the Ferguson super shell in the back with multiple eighteens in the, in the, in the bed just pounding that wasn the scene. And it obviously bled all over the country. But here they were just everywhere. Then all of a sudden they were gone as if they never existed. Just freaking gone. Well, it’s kind of like the Honda C R x, they were everywhere and then all of a sudden nowhere gone.

Lightning (55m 16s):

Where did every freaking Honda C Rx go? Did they all become race cars? Yeah. Yep.

Holman (55m 20s):

What happened? They’re all in garages somewhere.

Lightning (55m 23s):

So freaking Weird. You guys need to make a trip out to Mini Nats next year. It is an amazing Mini truck show. Amazing.

Holman (55m 30s):

The problem is, is that Lightning would probably do something accidentally offensive to somebody’s vehicle and have, he would be off

Lightning (55m 37s):

Somewhere. I would not do that because I have a great deal of respect.

Holman (55m 40s):

I would put the monkey backpack on you and I’d hold the tail the time, dude.

Lightning (55m 42s):

No, no. I have mad respect for the workmanship that goes into these trucks. Where is, where’d you say Mini Truck Nationals is next year. It’s in Maggie. Well, it’s in the same place. Maggie Valley, North Carolina, Southeastern Mini Truck Nationals. It is amazing. The cruising. In fact, we had Brian Jro and Jason Pang come out from California and tractor her from Arizona and they brought him out. If you remember the old Orange Ombre that was on the cover of Truckin.

Holman (56m 11s):

Oh yeah, I remember that.

Lightning (56m 12s):

They, they drove that all the way out there and they had a blast. They’re coming back next year. Man, you guys should really try to think about coming out there it is. It is. Amazing show. And you have about, you said 400 trucks. How many? Oh, 775. Wow. Holy crap.

Holman (56m 27s):

Ola, that’s a

Lightning (56m 28s):

A lot that that was, yeah, that was in the show. That’s not even counting the trucks that weren’t allowed to get into the show. The

Holman (56m 34s):

City. Well, dude, sometimes the parking lot is the show.

Lightning (56m 37s):

Absolutely, absolutely. All. right? Well, if we show up, you gotta show us around a little bit. ’cause we’re, we’re like newbies to the, to the, the

Holman (56m 43s):

Speak for yourself.

Lightning (56m 44s):

Well, no, it’s like the, the the reinvention of the scene. what you

Holman (56m 47s):

Realize, I worked that truck in magazine for a lot of years, right?

Lightning (56m 49s):

You’ve been out of the Mini truck scene for a really long

Holman (56m 51s):

Time. I wouldn’t call myself a newbie.

Lightning (56m 53s):

Right. I wouldn’t call yourself a newbie either.

Holman (56m 55s):

Yeah. Lightning, ah,

Lightning (56m 57s):

I mean,

Holman (56m 57s):

I’ll, I’ll show you around William. Like see that big parking lot over there with a bunch of Jews drinking beer hanging out. Yeah. Next to trucks. We’re going there. Ah, then we’re gonna talk about it. Hey,

Lightning (57m 7s):

You know what’s amazing is the city lets us drag and lets you cruise low. Oh, that wasn like, no issues whatsoever.

Holman (57m 13s):

It’s like the old days of like show Fest in Greenville, Mississippi and like all the real shows back in the day. So

Lightning (57m 19s):

Wait, you’re you popping bots, dots?

Holman (57m 21s):

Oh dude, I remember so many bots, dots died, heroes on those weekends. Oh, bring me back for, you know, if I had a time machine, take me back to Greenville Dur or Greenville during Show Fest. ’cause that was about as Yeah, rowdy Deb. Amazing as, as ever. I, I, I’ve, I think I’ve told this what what

Lightning (57m 41s):

About compared to like the, the events in Vegas or Laughlin and stuff like that?

Holman (57m 45s):

No, no, no, no, no. Show Fest was way, way outlier

Lightning (57m 47s):

Really. So there’s a lot of t n a and trucks.

Holman (57m 50s):

I told you about the time where the big black truck that said Girl’s Gone Wild pulled up next to me. Yes, yes you did. And I had truck and t-shirt. They’re like, dude, you from Truckin? I’m like, yeah, hey, hop in. And the, you know, the whole thing amazing for hours up and down. I’m sitting in the back of the truck having a good old time. And when I hopped out I said, Hey, thanks for the ride guys. I gotta go do some work now. And they’re like, cool man. I said, are you guys really from Girls Gun Wild? No, man, my buddy owns a sign shop. And that was, that was Show Fest in, in a, in a, you know, in a paragraph right there back in the day.

Lightning (58m 21s):

Oh yeah, absolutely. So it’s not really like that anymore. But it is about the trucks. No.

Holman (58m 26s):

Yeah, people would be drinking, the cops would like pull ’em over and then drink their beer or be like, yeah, take a picture of me with my truck. Your truck and your girlfriend and I’ll, I’ll let you keep going. And that wasn just, that wasn crazy.

Lightning (58m 37s):

How difficult is it today if you wanted to rekindle your youth? Or even maybe you’re a young guy and, and you’re finding Mini Truckin for the first time. Can you find the parts, can you find the trucks? Or is, do you have to be a sleuth like Holman over here or You know what, what does it take to get into the scene these days? Well, I, I think you, if you want it done right, you definitely have to be a sleuth to find the parts. You know, you could buy a truck that’s already done. You’re, you’re a lot better off some, you know, there’s that big argument of built not bought, but,

Holman (59m 8s):

But you can’t do that anymore because the virgin trucks don’t exist. So, so getting into the scene now, as a young, a young guy, he’s not gonna find a stock truck anymore. He’s gonna have to buy something that somebody built. So how, how is the scene and how are people now, if you show up in a truck that people know about that you love and cherish and put your money in, but you didn’t build it. ’cause it is hard to say built but not bought when there aren’t new tr virgin trucks to build from anymore, right?

Lightning (59m 34s):

Correct. I mean that, or you have to find a A P o Ss truck and, and then rebuild it that way. Sure. And hope you can find parts, you know, to, to make it better. Like, like I said, it, part of the, the fund for me is hunting. and then you could always go outside the United States. Like, I got some headlights from Australia for a Mazda that they never offered here. And, and they still make the trucks over there so you could get rubbers and whatnot from there. You know, it it, that’s the fun part is hunting this stuff down, in my opinion.

Holman (1h 0m 3s):

Well, and I think you’d get into that kind of, I think a philosophical or, or you know, a argument with yourself is, do I take this truck that’s already built and it’s already known and I I rehome it and I’m the steward of this. It represents the time. Or do I just, you know, can the whole thing, I do it my way and now piss a bunch of people off because it’s totally different than what it used to be. But then I’m doing it with, with my own vision. That’s a hard one to, to justify I think it would depend on the notoriety of the vehicle. ’cause at, at one, at the same time as you don’t want to destroy history, you still wanna put your own stamp on something. So there’s, there’s that balance of how to do it the right way.

Holman (1h 0m 44s):

And I think that’s not always a, a easy line to navigate.

Lightning (1h 0m 48s):

No, absolutely not. If you know that a truck Tuck lugs, don don’t know if you guys know that or not. No. 80. It’s an 84 extra cab Toyota that was on the cover of Truck of Mini Truckin that wasn originally built by a negative cam guy. and then that was, it changed hands a few times to an extreme Lowe’s guy out in California. Well, I ended up buying that and bringing it home and it’s a very iconic truck. Like you said, it’s a very fine line on what you can do and what you can’t do to kind of keep the tradition of the truck because it’s such an iconic truck, but yet do a little bit to make it your own. Right. And I ended up selling that to my buddy Chris Schmidt that’s in New York, that’s in Camber.

Lightning (1h 1m 28s):

And he’s, he brought it to Mini Nats all finished. I mean, it, it’s like you said, you got, there’s a fine line that between restoring and just, you know, preserving what’s

Holman (1h 1m 38s):

There. Yeah.

Lightning (1h 1m 39s):

Yeah. What’s the, so Randy, what’s the value of a truck? Like the one you’re just talking about that you sold to your, your buddy in in New York? Are we talking about 35,000, 75,000? I I realize that, you know, whatever,

Holman (1h 1m 53s):

Somebody will pay for it. No,

Lightning (1h 1m 54s):

But I, I I feel like there’s gotta be some type of a threshold, right? I mean, you know, and too Ballistic, what’s that worth? I mean, if someone said, I I know that you will tell me it’s not for sale, I get it. ’cause that wasn your dream. Some guy who, who won the lottery, who was a Mini truck fan says, I’m gonna give you quarter million dollars. Would you sell it? Absolutely.

Holman (1h 2m 14s):

That was, well that’s his price, folks

Lightning (1h 2m 17s):

All. right. I love the honesty. I mean, let me, let me be be honest with you, I’ve got 70,000 into this truck as it sits.

Holman (1h 2m 24s):


Lightning (1h 2m 24s):

Yeah. You know, and, and at the end of the day, it’s like you said, it’s only worth what somebody’s willing to pay. And I told my buddies that built it. ’cause they were like, well if you sell that, you’re gonna have to pay us extra. ’cause we did all this hard work. I said, absolutely. But I said, it is not really for sale. It’d have to be six figures. And, and and can you justify six figures on a Mini truck?

Holman (1h 2m 48s):

Don don’t know. I think in the future you will be able to because

Lightning (1h 2m 50s):

Yeah, you’re right. Maybe in the future, I mean, I, I would love to see, I I would, I’m gonna ask our audience. Has any of these ha has a Mini ever gone across the auction block at Mecu or Barrett Jackson? I I haven’t seen one.

Holman (1h 3m 8s):

No. There was one. I haven’t seen one either. I’m trying to find it right now. And I don’t remember that wasn like last year. And it, it sold for like a ridiculous I think it had like, you know, terror graphics and stuff on it. I’m trying to remember, it’s, it’s vaguely in my mind that that wasn one of the first minis to maybe cross a hundred thousand dollars something.

Lightning (1h 3m 27s):

There’s listeners right now smashing you more on how

Holman (1h 3m 31s):

Could you not remember you’re telling the story wrong? You dumbass?

Lightning (1h 3m 35s):

Well, no. Do you remember last look? Right, last look. They did that show, I forget what the name of the show was. Fester owns it and they valued it last look at a hundred thousand dollars. Yeah.

Holman (1h 3m 47s):


Lightning (1h 3m 47s):

What was that? What kind of truck was it? I don’t recall. It’s, it’s an 84 85 standard cab Toyota with cow customs graphics all over. It’s yellow. It had Boyd Trian on it. Really, really iconic truck. Really, really iconic truck. And the guy Randy Carlson valued it at a hundred grand. Now, just because you value That Doesn, that mean somebody’s gonna pay you a hundred thousand for it. don don’t know. Oh, I see that truck right now. Damn. I have seen that one before.

Holman (1h 4m 16s):

I wish I could find, look

Lightning (1h 4m 17s):

At last look

Holman (1h 4m 18s):

This story because for a while the, the Japanese trucks have all been like back to the future replicas and things like that. Those were the things going across the auction auction block. Which, which I

Lightning (1h 4m 30s):

Thought were lame. Like, I’m not a big fan of movie cars. I get that’s just me. I know a lot of people are. No,

Holman (1h 4m 33s):

But that wasn’t a movie car per se though. I mean, I know it wasn’t like the Batmobile or it wasn’t like, you know, the, you know, name, whatever. that wasn just a really well done period. Correct. Toyota Truck. I think a lot of people loved it because that wasn You know what, two bumpers and 30 fives or something with Casey. Dan

Lightning (1h 4m 54s):

Made it. Yeah.

Holman (1h 4m 55s):

Yeah. I mean that wasn just that wasn that that perfect representation of what that era was where everybody’s like that, that truck. I, but it wasn’t like that wasn a movie car in the sense that there was something really special about it. that wasn just so period. Correct. Anybody could really build it and have that vibe. I think that’s what made that successful. But I, I wish I could find this, this story ’cause I, I, I remember there being a, that wasn like a Toyota, like a mid eighties Toyota. And there was something about it going across the block and, and people, well,

Lightning (1h 5m 26s):

While you’re looking for that, does it drive you crazy to be cruising down the street and see all of the gardeners driving your favorite Mini trucks like the, the Toyota Do series. Like I passed so many of them and these things are just beat up from the feet up. And they, they got so cheap for so many years and and they didn’t have much enthusiasm around them anymore. And they became gardener trucks. At least Southern California. Everywhere you look, it’s a Toyota Extra cab, long Bed Gardner truck with a roof rack and the rakes and the freaking gas blowers that have already been banned in California. It’s hanging off the sides and such. And the guy’s doing 45 miles an hour in the, in the fast lane.

Lightning (1h 6m 6s):

And you’re like, get outta my freaking way.

Holman (1h 6m 8s):

They can’t go faster.

Lightning (1h 6m 9s):

They can’t go any faster. And the guy’s sitting there, they can’t go

Holman (1h 6m 12s):

Any faster. Yeah.

Lightning (1h 6m 14s):

And it’s so funny, but like they all became gardener trucks ’cause they were cheap. I Don’t know about you guys. I know being on the road as much as we are or we see guys with caravans of Toyota trucks heading down south towards Mexico. They love Toyota. The they

Holman (1h 6m 27s):

Love down there pickups down there a hundred percent. Yeah.

Lightning (1h 6m 29s):

All, right? Holman’s still,

Holman (1h 6m 31s):

I’m, I gotta tap out because I’m I’m you, you type in like Mini truck auction and it’s, it’s not what you think. So I just remember there was something a, a year or two ago, I feel like it broke a hundred thousand and that wasn a big deal because that wasn like a eighties truck. don don’t remember. If any of our listeners can remember or refresh me or keep me Honest Truck show, send us a email And, and, but anyway, I, it just to me that wasn we’re at the, I think we’re at the bleeding edge of those trucks really taking off in the auction scene. I think everything eighties is is is starting to to be cool if, you know, there’s a time in the late seventies, early eighties where because of smog and all that, a lot of the cars that were cool in the seventies are complete dogs.

Holman (1h 7m 16s):

And the Japanese stuff is really starting to come on now. In, in also the sports car market. Silicas and Supras and R seven seven.

Lightning (1h 7m 22s):

Oh my dude, SRAs, have you seen where they’re going for?

Holman (1h 7m 25s):

Do you see the last generation Supra? Yeah, I’ve turbo

Lightning (1h 7m 27s):

Over a hundred thousand dollars.

Holman (1h 7m 28s):

No, $200,000. Like 180 to 200.

Lightning (1h 7m 30s):

God yeah, no,

Holman (1h 7m 31s):

Almost a quarter million dollars for some of those last generation low mileage super turbos. So, but what I was gonna say is, the thing about the Mini truck that I I think kind of transcends is that wasn a cheap truck that wasn attainable people. Everybody has a memory whether you owned one or not, your buddy did. You saw one at the truck show. You know, you, you had it. But because performance sucked in the eighties, the thing that gets people now is remembering the style and how outlandish the eighties were in terms of like colors and fabrics and things people were doing. And, and I feel like the, a lot of the eighties cars, especially in the truck side of the bus or the truck side of it, those heartstrings are tugged by the look and feel and not the performance of the vehicle. I

Lightning (1h 8m 11s):

Agree. And and where do you stand? Correct Randy, where do you stand on like scissor beds and dancing beds and stuff like that. Like you’ve seen the guys where they have like full transformers where the truck actually comes apart and it’s like, like the bed goes this way and the the cab splits off and then they’re all spinning independently and it’s like, it just a big giant remote control device. Now some guys are still doing it. Like my kids, I showed my kids a a, a dancing bed and like, well that was a thing. I go, oh my god. Yeah, the best trucks like had dancing beds. Oh yeah. There, there there’s clubs over there in California that are, are doing that still today. I was never a big fan. I like my stuff on the ground, dragging on the ground, but it’s part of the culture that’s for sure.

Lightning (1h 8m 57s):

You know, here’s

Holman (1h 8m 57s):

One right here. 1997 Toyota Super Turbo. Okay. This one has 28,000 original miles. It’s listed on a, a national database. $232,800 six speed manual. Wow. It’s a, it’s a black on black car. Those things are outta control here. I’ll, I’ll just run through real quick. So this is all that same ninety, ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight, a hundred twenty four, one twenty nine, one forty five, one forty nine, one sixty eight, one sixty nine, one eighty nine two thirty two.

Holman (1h 9m 41s):

It’s amazing what those cars are getting right now in, in the secondary and collector markets. And again, I I I feel like, you know, many trucks are, we have to be careful to keep those within our ranks. ’cause at some point they’re gonna become valuable to collectors and they’re gonna start sucking ’em out of the wild and plucking ’em and putting them away in personal collections where you may not have 700 trucks at a me truck show. Yeah,

Lightning (1h 9m 55s):

Yeah. You’ll never see ’em again. You know, we’ve got a couple of guys that had their trucks. They’re trying to find trucks that they built in the late nineties, early 2000 that, you know, they went to private collectors and you never see them again. It’s, and it’s sad.

Holman (1h 10m 7s):

97 Toyota Super two-door turbo hatchback. Yep. A hundred or I’m sorry, 90,000 miles. Guess How much money that, that bad boy

Lightning (1h 10m 16s):

Is 1 45.

Holman (1h 10m 17s):

1 35. Here’s what, a hundred here you go. 97 Super two door turbo hatchback. 183,000 miles. What do you think it’s worth?

Lightning (1h 10m 25s):

183,000 miles.

Holman (1h 10m 27s):

183,000 miles.

Lightning (1h 10m 28s):

How? 1 1 15 80 80 80

Holman (1h 10m 33s):

Many thousand dollars for almost crazy 200,000 miles car.

Lightning (1h 10m 37s):

$80,000. You can buy a used T R X

Holman (1h 10m 40s):

I mean, what you think of everything, all the things you can buy. You buy four Mini trucks maybe. Yeah. I mean it’s crazy. It’s crazy.

Lightning (1h 10m 46s):

Oh yeah. Alright, well listen, Randy, you, you have been awesome. Thank you for like spending your evening with us. Yeah.

Holman (1h 10m 54s):

Hopefully we got you a few miles down the road and Hey, that u p s package I’ve been waiting for. It’d be nice if you, if it showed up one of these days.

Lightning (1h 11m 1s):

Yeah. One of these days. Like I said, I nothing but windshield time and an honor to be on the podcast. I appreciate it. Oh, thank

Holman (1h 11m 7s):

You very much. I appreciate you too, brother.

Lightning (1h 11m 8s):

Much. Yeah. And spread the word. If you don’t mind when you’re, this episode comes out, share with your friends, your, your negative camera friends and stuff. We’re still, you know, we’re trying to at, at almost 300 episodes. We’re still trying to grow this thing and we’re, we’re very fortunate to be five years in and still, you know, doing it. ’cause we’re, we’re, we’re huge fans. We love connecting with guys like you we’re. Obviously you’re doing it for one reason and one reason only passion. And we got mad respect. So Randy, thank you very much. Safe

Holman (1h 11m 34s):


Lightning (1h 11m 35s):

Yeah. Be safe. Yep. Thank you. Appreciate it. All,

Holman (1h 11m 38s):

Right? All right brother. Have

Lightning (1h 11m 38s):

A good one. Talk to ya. See you. You too. Bye. You ready for some news? Hold my beer.

Holman (1h 11m 46s):

I’m holding whiskey right now. Yep.

7 (1h 11m 48s):

What’s new in Travis? We need to know what’s new in trucks. We need to know what’s new in trucks. We need to

3 (1h 11m 56s):

Know Lifted, lowered and everything in between. What’s happening in the world of trucks?

Lightning (1h 12m 3s):

Ah, solid. Yeah.

Holman (1h 12m 5s):

It’s not bad.

Lightning (1h 12m 6s):

Solid as Donna Summer said. Solid as a rock.

Holman (1h 12m 9s):

No, no, no dude do

Lightning (1h 12m 11s):

No was the dinosaur. Hey Le,

Holman (1h 12m 12s):

Did you hear?

Lightning (1h 12m 14s):

No, no I did not. No,

Holman (1h 12m 15s):

I wish I couldn’t hear ’cause that was

Lightning (1h 12m 17s):

Horrible. Yeah, that wasn awful

Holman (1h 12m 18s):

Rivian. C E O RJ Scarin was recently on YouTuber. Marquez Brownie’s. W V F R M podcast. What do you know about Mr. Brownley?

Lightning (1h 12m 28s):

I have brought him up many, many times on the podcast. Get

Holman (1h 12m 31s):

Him on

Lightning (1h 12m 32s):

Or once or twice. I don’t know if he does guest stints.

Holman (1h 12m 35s):

He only has 162 episodes. We can increase his popularity.

Lightning (1h 12m 39s):

Dude. He is, he’s mega. Yeah, M kb is. Yeah. Yeah, he’s

Holman (1h 12m 44s):

Definitely, he’s massive. Anyway, apparently you got RJ to open up a little bit about the Rivian R two and R three. So they’ve got some additional models in the works. I’ve heard a few rumors about how one of those vehicles is aimed directly at a certain seven slotted grill vehicle that

Lightning (1h 13m 6s):


Holman (1h 13m 6s):

Is iconic. So it’d be interesting to see what their take going after Jeep. See what that take is interesting. Hey lighting, did you hear? Nope, that’s the exact sound. Many, many medium duty Chevrolet Silverado owners are saying after more than 40,000 of the medium duty cabin chassis, you know your favorite one with the flow tie.

Lightning (1h 13m 30s):

Yes. Yeah.

Holman (1h 13m 31s):

There was a little bit of a issue where GM notified Nitsa earlier last month of a fire risk affecting the current generation 4,500 hd 5,500 HD and 6,500 HD models. Apparently the brake pressure sensor assembly may leak brake fluid into the brake pressure switch, which would cause an electrical short circuit and therefore a fire,

9 (1h 13m 59s):

Fire, fire fired.

Holman (1h 14m 1s):

Mm. And that, that being said, GM says they’re not aware of any injuries related to the problem, but they’re recalling 40,428 trucks built between 19 and 23. Ooh. So there’s been 21 incidents of this failure to date. Our audio

Lightning (1h 14m 18s):

Recorder was there with one of the owners. Ah,

Holman (1h 14m 22s):

Hopefully not. Out of 21 incidents, 11 of those resulted in an actual fire fire.

Lightning (1h 14m 28s):

Yeah, that’s bad. Yeah,

Holman (1h 14m 29s):

That’s not good. Anyway, if you’ve got one of those, you can contact Chevy’s customer service line at 804 2 4 9 1 5 3 for more info. And that recall, for those of you who care N 2 2 2 3 7 5 2 7 0.

Lightning (1h 14m 43s):

Hey Holman, have you heard?

Holman (1h 14m 45s):


Lightning (1h 14m 46s):

So Dustin Koster and one of our Facebook groups that I’m on all the time is they’re talking lately about the 24 Durex as I spoke about on the last show. Okay. Apparently there’s something going on here with some codes they’re seeing.

Holman (1h 14m 59s):

Interesting. Well

Lightning (1h 15m 0s):

What happened is, do you hear

Holman (1h 15m 1s):

Screaming with them also?

Lightning (1h 15m 2s):

So, so Dustin said, Hey can the dealer see when you’ve cleared a code when using the bank’s eye dash? And I said, well it depends on what code you’ve cleared. Most are temporary and not stored in the E C M. Dustin says, dude, it’s the emissions code. All of us with the new 2024 are having, we’re supposed to be waiting for a software Update from what I see others say on Facebook. I’m dropping it off at the dealer for the third time this week and I don’t even have 1500 miles yet on the truck.

Holman (1h 15m 33s):

How many? 1500.

Lightning (1h 15m 35s):

1500 miles. Ooh. And from what he hears, it’s a software anomaly. Like the truck is fine hardware wise, but he says it ain’t cool. I just spent 80 grand on a truck.

Holman (1h 15m 48s):

Yeah. About that

Lightning (1h 15m 51s):


Holman (1h 15m 51s):

Man, that sucks.

Lightning (1h 15m 53s):

I don’t know if it’s a real thing yet, but I can tell you that I posted another video about the monster Ram on the Ram trucks. It appears So, we, we’ve talked about the broken bolt issue in the, in the green heater before. Exactly. Largely happening between the model years 13 and 18. Okay. We find a lot in 15 16, 17, 18. But

Holman (1h 16m 15s):

Is that because the 19 through 20 threes havet aged enough? Or is it because there’s a design change?

Lightning (1h 16m 21s):

They look so it’s the same part number. The grid heater is the same part number. We don’t know if it’s solenoid or relay related. We haven’t pinpointed it. Mainly 15, 16, 17 eighteens. I posted a new video of another failure last week and all these guys start talking about it again and it it just wild. And everyone’s saying why doesn’t Ram recall or why doesn’t Cummins recall these? And they’re both pointing the finger at each other. It’s a Ram issue. It’s a Cummins issue. Do

Holman (1h 16m 54s):

You know that for sure?

Lightning (1h 16m 56s):

No, these are what people are saying. Right? I don’t know for sure, but we have a lot of mechanics guys who are familiar saying, I’m not

Holman (1h 17m 2s):

Saying it’s not happening. I just wanna make sure that before we assess blame and that No,

Lightning (1h 17m 5s):

I’m not assessing blame. Yeah. I’m just telling you what people are saying and everyone, you’ll have mechanics that say I work on these trucks all the time and they’re pointing at a Ram and other guys are pointing at a Cummins. Sure. And because it’s not like Ford like where Ford developed the six seven. Right. That’s their engine in their truck. Yep. This is a Cummins engine in a Ram truck. Two different business entities. Yep. So I I man it’s gonna be very interesting to see that’s gonna be, see what happens here.

Holman (1h 17m 31s):


Lightning (1h 17m 32s):

We just, last week two guys bought $30,000 engines. They just both ate a bolt.

Holman (1h 17m 39s):

Hey Lenny, did you hear don? Don’t

10 (1h 17m 41s):

Watch the news ’cause I’m a kid.

Holman (1h 17m 44s):

It’s still one of my favorite ones ever. Right? I

Lightning (1h 17m 46s):

Try, I try not to burn it out. I

Holman (1h 17m 48s):

Don only listen to podcasts. I’m not a hundred. Yep. Alright, well Hennessy took the Ford F one 50 Raptor R and guess what they did do It

Lightning (1h 17m 58s):

Can, I guess? Yep. Do they add an axle? Yep.

Holman (1h 18m 1s):

So the Velociraptor R which is basically Velociraptor Big R in the end is now 27 feet long and weighs 500 pounds more than the factory truck at Does

Lightning (1h 18m 13s):

It really weigh. Does is it really 27

Holman (1h 18m 15s):

Feet? Yes. 27 feet long and 6,500 pounds. I have

Lightning (1h 18m 19s):

A travel trailer 27 feet long. The

Holman (1h 18m 21s):

The engine though is, is bone stock. Apparently that Hennessy felt there was enough power in the engine, but it gets 20 inch wheels, 37 inch tires and a three inch body lift. Fox dampers and Brembo brake keep the rig under control, a body lift.

Lightning (1h 18m 39s):

Know what is

Holman (1h 18m 39s):

This 1989. I know. Well they don’t want, they don’t wanna mess with the suspension. I get. I I know why they did it again. Not my body lift’s. Not my favorite thing.

Lightning (1h 18m 46s):

No, that’s just freaking dumb.

Holman (1h 18m 50s):

Anyway, bumpers front and rear get added. Upgraded L e D lights. There’s the Hennessy badges all over the place. Hennessy says that the changes increase the attractive grip by over 50% and the long bed will improve your cargo capacity by 45%. ’cause you’re really gonna be hauling in that thing. What would you say the price is of the limited edition Veloc Raptor R six by six. What does it start at Lightning

Lightning (1h 19m 20s):

1 65.

Holman (1h 19m 22s):


Lightning (1h 19m 24s):


Holman (1h 19m 26s):

You were really close by prices. Right Rules. What the hell is wrong with you?

Lightning (1h 19m 30s):

Come on.

Holman (1h 19m 31s):

That’s a lot of coin dude. That’s

Lightning (1h 19m 32s):

Just come on, right?

Holman (1h 19m 34s):

It’s a lot of coin. Hey lighting, did you hear? No.

Lightning (1h 19m 39s):


Holman (1h 19m 40s):

Spy photos of the upcoming Ram Ram page or Dakota or Ram 1200 or whatever all the rumor you wanna follow, keep showing up. And now it’s been seen in America. Does that mean that the Maverick and the Santa Cruz are gonna have a competitor from Ram? Is it, is there gonna be a unibody small pickup truck from Ram? Would you like to see it called Ramage? Would you like to see it called Dakota?

Lightning (1h 20m 6s):

I would rather.

Holman (1h 20m 7s):

Is it happening?

Lightning (1h 20m 8s):

I like Rampage better.

Holman (1h 20m 9s):

Okay, why?

Lightning (1h 20m 11s):

Because Dakota is everyone’s dog or daughter’s name.

Holman (1h 20m 15s):

Dodge Dakota. Dude.

Lightning (1h 20m 16s):

Yeah, I get

Holman (1h 20m 17s):

It. It’s it’s family name. Nah,

Lightning (1h 20m 19s):

Rampage cooler.

Holman (1h 20m 20s):

Huh? All right. Hey Lightning, did you hear?

Lightning (1h 20m 24s):

No. Nope.

Holman (1h 20m 26s):

Did not hear.

Lightning (1h 20m 27s):

I don’t think so.

Holman (1h 20m 29s):

I mean I guess I’m gonna have to tell you that.

Lightning (1h 20m 30s):

Yes, please.

Holman (1h 20m 32s):

You’re, you’re not gonna like this story.

Lightning (1h 20m 35s):

Are you gonna tell me that the 2024 Ford F two 50 with a 6.7 liter power stroke or seven three Gasser will come with a tremor package and 37 inch tire straight from the factory,

Holman (1h 20m 48s):

No lighting. What I am gonna tell you about is the deep view of the 2024 G M C Sierra HD A T four X. It gets a one and a half inch lift and 35 inch tires for the factory. Nice. And the thing just looks like an absolute beast. You get more skid plates, you get beefier rubber, you get the Multimatic D S S V dampers, which again used to be a Chevy exclusive. Now G M C gets it as well. You get a new E locker in the back instead of the old, you know, mechanical G 80 style locker. You get new upper and lower control arms, upgraded steering knuckles. And the thing is just an absolute beast. And if you wanna go even further, they also just announced the a e V package.

Lightning (1h 21m 29s):

Oh, Look at that bumper. Oh my

Holman (1h 21m 32s):

Lord. Out. So I’ll I’ll put it up on the screen there. Yeah,

Lightning (1h 21m 34s):

There you go. I see it. Look at go. Are those, oh, look at those A V wheels. Damn that is a good looking truck. That looks like it’s all Maed but it’s from the factory that way. That’s clean.

Holman (1h 21m 44s):

It is one of the best looking heavy duty duty trucks I think you’ve ever seen. And what’s amazing, look at the Wheel. So these are AV wheels, these are the Thes Salta, yeah. And they actually puts Salta on the Wheel. So not only do they say AV on ’em here, they also have the, the name of the Wheel. I can’t believe that they were able to get all that aftermarket branding. it just, it just incredible. Look at that’s a new a four x lineup. Yeah, no,

Lightning (1h 22m 9s):

I know they’re gonna sell the snot out of those trucks.

Holman (1h 22m 11s):

Look at that. Oh dude, I’m, I’m so stoked on this one. What GM is doing in the off-road space right now is, is unbelievable. Not only did they kill it, they got the ZR two and now they’ve got a Diesel ZR two, they’ve got the Colorado and Canyon, they’ve got the AV bison additions on those trucks. The, the halftime now the heavy duties are in on the party. Kudos to AV because they are clobbering it outta the park announcement after announcement, when you choose the AAV edition, you get special badging, you get trim specific 18 inch wheels. You get their new steel bumpers with a built-in come up winch and tow hooks. and then you also get additional heavy duty skid plates.

Holman (1h 22m 51s):

But all the trucks gain a special obsidian rush interior, which is decked out leather, massaging seats and a lot of luxury Adventure. So if the stress of off-roading gets to you, you can just have your butt rubbed by your seats. Seats. Yeah.

Lightning (1h 23m 5s):

Which is pretty Do we have any pricing for those things yet?

Holman (1h 23m 7s):

Great. I don’t think that they have announced pricing yet, but dude, look at, I’m gonna show you some more photos here. They

Lightning (1h 23m 15s):

Ain’t gonna be cheap. Hey, what do you think of it since you’re, while you’re looking for that, the pricing. Hey, what do you think about the come up winches? Because I’ve been hearing more and more about them lately. I’m not super familiar. Of course we all know the Warren name, but I feel like GM teaming up with ComeUp. Well that’s a ComeUp for ComeUp.

Holman (1h 23m 32s):

Yeah, so ComeUp Winches is actually a, a really well known brand internationally. ComeUp is their brand. They actually make a lot of other companies winches as far as worn goes. You know, premium, premium overseas were maybe worn, you know, outside of Australia and, and South Africa and other places like Southeast Asia, the ComeUp brand I think it the Scandinavian countries. There’s a lot of ComeUp winches up there. I learned about ’em about seven or eight years ago when they started making a push into the us. So it’s, it’s a, it’s a really good product. It’s high quality. it just doesn’t have a lot of brand recognition. But when Worn is, you know, got to a point where they weren’t catching up with supply during Covid, I know AAV diversified by adding come up winches.

Holman (1h 24m 14s):

So you may buy a prospect or XL or something like that. It could come with a come up or a worn and having the come up on the G M C, I think people are going to start seeing that brand recognition. So I, I’ve got nothing bad to say about ’em. I did a little research at Four Wheeler when they first came out

Lightning (1h 24m 28s):

For GM to partner with a brand like that, it’s gotta speak volumes. so

Holman (1h 24m 33s):

Yeah obviously it’s gotta be, you know, integrated into the vehicle and it has to pass warranty and, and all that kind of stuff. What’s interesting, somebody was telling me that not only are the winches integrated into these GM products, but there’s certain things like you can only use them when they’re in park and there’s certain things that you can’t do when the winches operate. It’s actually like not just mounted to the vehicle safety, not just use, you know, crash test for airbags, but actually integrate it into the electronics of the vehicle as well. So it’s a, it’s a fully integrated solution. It’s, it’s really cool. So do you think that this is gonna be the ultimate overland rig right now?

Lightning (1h 25m 11s):


Holman (1h 25m 11s):

De no. So think about this. I see

Lightning (1h 25m 13s):

This as being just an Offroad rig,

Holman (1h 25m 16s):

But check this out. hold on. The HD Denali right comes in right now at 94 Grand. The Denali Ultimate. This is probably gonna be more expensive than the Denali Ultimate. So does the AV now take over Denali at the top of the lineup for GM and pricing? I wonder, I mean that’s a huge for an aftermarket company to get that kind of branding and play on a signature vehicle.

Lightning (1h 25m 41s):

I think so. And I’ll tell you why. Because after having spent some time with the ultimate, it’s not the ultimate

Holman (1h 25m 47s):


Lightning (1h 25m 48s):

No, it’s not interesting. Listen, it’s cool. Super thankful that one of our customers loaned it to us.

Holman (1h 25m 54s):

Not a fan. Huh?

Lightning (1h 25m 55s):

But it didn’t, now it’s, it’s, it felt like that wasn missing. What was the ultimate is like the Denali laser etch in the wood grain, like the topographical maps and the leather was beautiful. Yeah. Those types of things were quote unquote ultimate. But I didn’t feel like the truck was ultimate the kicker audio system in the Swiss Army knife of a tailgate, like that type of thing. That was cool. But I think this is next level. Hmm. This truck that I’m seeing on that screen right there with all the AAV bits, that’s the top of the heap.

Holman (1h 26m 26s):

Hey lighting, did you hear? I mean now,

Lightning (1h 26m 29s):

Now? Nope.

Holman (1h 26m 30s):

So at the recent unveiling for media of the G M C Sierra HD 2,500 a T four X AAV edition breathe. Look what they towed in on a trailer

Lightning (1h 26m 42s):

That is a truck on a trailer wrapped in a black sock. Well, a very, like a form fitting car cover.

Holman (1h 26m 50s):

So here’s the deal. Yeah, that right there is the unannounced G M C canyon, a T four X AV edition. And they quietly used that as a load when they towed with the hd ’cause it hasn’t been announced. And our, our s sleuth on the ground confirmed 35 inch tires on a mid-size truck from the factory.

Lightning (1h 27m 12s):

Wow. Those look huge on that truck.

Holman (1h 27m 15s):

Yep. So this is everybody’s guessing the A e V version. This here is the Yeah.

Lightning (1h 27m 20s):

Goodyear Wranglers on there. Yeah.

Holman (1h 27m 21s):

So this, this is the truck that got announced. So this is the regular a T four X look at

Lightning (1h 27m 26s):

How much ground clearance. That thing has,

Holman (1h 27m 27s):

So that has 30 threes. This is the standard truck. So look at these photos I’m showing you of the standard truck with 30 threes. Right. It’s, it’s proportionally looks great, right? Sure. I mean it’s a good looking truck. and then look again, same truck, but with the form fitting cover on it and 30 fives.

Lightning (1h 27m 46s):

Wow. I feel like that’s got more than a solid 14 inches of ground clearance.

Holman (1h 27m 53s):

I love the way that am

Lightning (1h 27m 54s):

I, am I off base here? Do you think it’s got 14?

Holman (1h 27m 56s):

Yeah, it’s probably try 12, something like that. But, but I love the way that thing looks like stance wise, mid-size truck. I know Toyota’s coming out and they’re teasing photos and this is kinda like the ultimate tease. Not no pun intended, but they rolled in the actual truck with a truck cover just to tease the media. Hey, we’re not gonna show it to you yet. Don’t everybody don’t mind me.

Lightning (1h 28m 15s):

Can you imagine someone rolling over to that and just ripping it

Holman (1h 28m 17s):

Off? I mean, you would never get invited back anywhere, ever. No. But it would, could you imagine the, the issue that would cause

Lightning (1h 28m 23s):

I gotta say that it, because all I’m looking at here is a is a truck under a car cover? You can’t see it. It’s

Holman (1h 28m 29s):

The silhouette. But you can

Lightning (1h 28m 30s):

Sil buts

Holman (1h 28m 31s):

Leave the ground

Lightning (1h 28m 31s):

Clearance. You gotta tell me that that doesn’t, the front end looks like it could be a new Tacoma.

Holman (1h 28m 37s):

Dude, it looks awesome. I think it looks better than the Tacoma.

Lightning (1h 28m 39s):

I’m not saying it doesn’t look, I’m not saying it looks better or worse. I’m just saying the, the, the shape I’m just saying is the front of the Tacoma. It’s got a big sout.

Holman (1h 28m 46s):

I’m what’s coming from the factory these days and mid-size trucks is pretty unbelievable what’s coming from the factory. Half ton trucks and heavy duty trucks. Who would’ve thought when the raptor came out back in, what was it, 2010, 2009, whatever that wasn, who would’ve thought that it would spur an entire Offroad premium Offroad package genre across the entire industry? There isn’t one person that isn’t playing in Offroad packages and trucks right now. There’s not one company.

Lightning (1h 29m 12s):

So Halman, remember I told you that I was over at C J C Offroad? Yep. Looking at their new 2023 Ford F two 50. Yep.

Holman (1h 29m 19s):

And I asked you if you wiggled the bumper to see if it’s as sloppy as the one at the auto show.

Lightning (1h 29m 24s):

So I didn’t at that time, but guess what? I picked it up this morning and I drove it to work. Did you wiggle the bumper? I did. And it’s rock solid. Hmm,

Holman (1h 29m 32s):


Lightning (1h 29m 33s):

Rock solid. So I’m not sure what happened to the, the truck piece pre pre-production.

Holman (1h 29m 36s):


Lightning (1h 29m 36s):

Sure it must have been pre-production. Okay. Remember what I said about the 2024 duramax, how it felt so fast on the, on the freeway? Nope,

Holman (1h 29m 48s):

Not anymore.

Lightning (1h 29m 49s):

This Ford F two 50 with the H ho the high output. Yep. Holy balls.

Holman (1h 29m 56s):

I mean you get to the point where no,

Lightning (1h 29m 57s):

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 500 horsepower. 1200 Yeah. Pound feet of torque.

Holman (1h 30m 4s):

Has that been announced yet? Is that,

Lightning (1h 30m 7s):

What do you mean? It’s, yeah, it’s everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Oh

Holman (1h 30m 9s):

Yeah. I’m rusty. I’ve been outta the loop for three months. Dude,

Lightning (1h 30m 12s):

I’ve Dr. Listen, we have 13 Diesel. You’ve seen our parking lot. Yeah. We got 13. All of ’em. Full-sized Diesel Pick every mo every model of three quarter and one ton truck. Yep. This truck is stupid fast. Yeah. So C j C put 30 sevens on it with a Carly lift kit. It breaks the 30 sevens free effortlessly. I’m telling you it’s, it’s T rx fast.

Holman (1h 30m 39s):

It’s, it’s probably not. It probably

Lightning (1h 30m 40s):

Feels that bad. It’s not. It’s not. It’s because of that tor it’s a torque. If you have a Ram sell it. If you, I’m telling you, if you have a Ram, it just so freaking sluggish with that. It’s a Ram’s a great truck. The

Holman (1h 30m 53s):

Interior so much better.

Lightning (1h 30m 54s):

It’s, this is really nice. It’s not, it’s not leaps and bounds above previous Fords. It’s still very lot of Flad surfaces and such. And it’s not as inviting as the Ram. It

Holman (1h 31m 8s):

Feels more industrial or more work truck. It’s as luxury. It does feels more even when do the luxury overlay on it. It doesn’t have the same like a, the Denalis feel very luxurious inside the Rams. The, the limiteds are amazing. Agreed. Agreed. The Fords are nice. Agreed. And Ford used to have the best interiors. They do. I don’t think they do anymore.

Lightning (1h 31m 24s):

But dude, they just, this thing is so freaking wicked fast. If you can test drive one, do it. I’ve heard that they’re coming into dealers really slow because there’s so many 20 twos flooding the lots that we’re not gonna see a whole lot of 20 threes. don don’t know if that’s true or not, but balls fast.

Holman (1h 31m 46s):

Hey lighting, did you hear? No.

Lightning (1h 31m 48s):


Holman (1h 31m 49s):

Speaking of teasers, here’s a picture of the new Tacoma. Another teaser released by Toyota this

Lightning (1h 31m 56s):

Time with a J B l. What? What? What’s the little J B L boombox doing

Holman (1h 31m 59s):

Little Bluetooth speaker on the tailgate. Right. Interesting. It snaps into the dash. Oh, it’s your center channel on the dash. Got Yeah. It’s so cool. But that’s not the coolest thing. Check this out. What is the coolest thing Toyota in the midst of all of their little teasers? Yep. Apparently have announced that the 2024 Toyota Tacoma will offer a six speed manual. What? So what currently you can only get a manual in the gladiator. What? And the current Tacoma in Toyota apparently is going to offer the truck with a manual transmission.

11 (1h 32m 47s):

Dh. Thank you. Thank you.

Holman (1h 32m 54s):

Wow. So there’s no word yet on whether it’s attached to the hybrid four cylinder that we’re guessing is, is going to be in there. But I, I can’t imagine that it’s gonna be attached to the current V six. So we’ll have to see what transpires. But I’m excited that Toyota is sticking with the manual and we’ve got an enthusiast vehicle that is gonna be the gateway to many, many young people getting into off-roading and trucks. And they’re gonna be able to choose a manual transmission. That’s really good news. All, right? All right. I wanna show you another picture. This one’s from a friend of at T F L Truck. Buddy Buddy buddy Andre over there. It’s apparently the new trail hunter series that we talked about of the taco way.

Holman (1h 33m 36s):

hold on a second. This is the ugliest camouflage. Yeah, this, that wasn draped in trash bags. It draped in like a bad leather suit. Okay. In lighting like a horror movie. Stick with me for a minute. Yes. Before you go off the rail. God damnit that ugly. Stop it. Listen to me for a second. That’s mad Max stop. Lightning. I’m trying to get a point across.

12 (1h 33m 56s):

Oh my god. Lightning shut the F up.

Holman (1h 34m 1s):

All, right? Look at this camo. It’s not quite as refined as the G M C A V edition camo, but you could still see the outline of this truck, the stance and the Wheel and tire package based on only the camo of the new Tacoma and camo of that G M C. Which one are you taking home? G M C. It’s not even close. No, this thing looks like it has 33 inch tires. Maybe this truck has a, has a roof rack it and it looks low. Well that’s, and it has a snorkel too. So you see the snorkel along the what? That’s why this is probably the trail hunter. Ah, so it’s, it’s probably the, the overland version that they’re pushing that has the A r B bumper and tow hooks, which sounds awesome.

Holman (1h 34m 44s):

But I gotta tell you, if I’m going a r b versus a V, I gotta love that AV stuff. A R b’s Good stuff though. It’s great stuff. Yeah, I have, I’ve used a r b for 20 years. I love a r b. Love everything about ’em. I think Toyota’s genius for jumping in a r b. They have a huge Australian market for that truck. It’s great. It’s no different than G M C jumping into bed with aav. I’m just saying these two trucks both in camo for us to guess and play with that G M C on 30 fives is the stance is so Right on. But this looks low and it edges.

Lightning (1h 35m 19s):

I I hear you. I hear you. We don’t know if that’s gonna be the final tire Wheel package. I know, I got it. But this thing, dude, if you’re a toy, it’s a good time to be a Toyota

Holman (1h 35m 26s):

Fan. That’s why it’s specifically off these. No, I

Lightning (1h 35m 28s):

Got photos I got. It’s a man. We said, you know

Holman (1h 35m 30s):

Why, ’cause you’re gonna get a fully boxed frame in rear discs.

Lightning (1h 35m 33s):

We said this like the last two years in a row. It’s a really good time to be a truck enthusiast.

Holman (1h 35m 39s):

It’s, it’s an amazing time. It’s an amazing time. All, right? Lightning, one last thing. Did you hear Oh No?

Lightning (1h 35m 45s):

Nope. Didn’t hear.

Holman (1h 35m 46s):

Apparently Toyota got an okay from California to sell hydrogen electric semi-truck power trains. And they have done this, I believe with a, a partnership with, with Paccar. And I just got back from the a c T Expo here in Anaheim, California, which is, what does that stand for? That stands for the Advanced Clean Transportation Expo. And our friends at Dana invited me, So, we just did a huge walk around to the show today and I got to see this hydrogen power plant in, in person. This show is super rad. It had school buses and excavators and hydrogen and fuel cells and propane and natural gas and EVs and semi trucks. And I, I saw our, I’ll bring it up next week.

Holman (1h 36m 28s):

I, let’s just say we reengaged Nikola in next week’s episode and come full circle on that. So really cool stuff happening there. But I had a chance to see this, this powertrain, if you think about it, Toyota’s been doing fuel cells at a smaller scale for like 30 years now.

Lightning (1h 36m 43s):

Yeah, well they, I mean the Mariah still sells Doesn or Yeah, no,

Holman (1h 36m 46s):

No. The Mariah the Maria around thing. Yeah. Yeah. They, the new one’s gorgeous. They had one there, but the fact that they’re partnering with a big class eight oe, you know, is, is I think pretty huge. So it’s gonna be

Lightning (1h 36m 58s):

Ing what, what can I ask you or are you gonna tell us in the next show the general vibe to hydrogen fuel cells versus, ’cause the government, everyone shoving electrification down our throats. Yep. Was there a general vibe at this show? Yeah,

Holman (1h 37m 13s):

I think, I think some of the big conversations surrounded infrastructure. What’s interesting to me and the takeaway for me is in the comments off the record from a lot of people is the industry is moving way faster than infrastructure. And everybody was like, none of this stuff is realistic until we have a place to plug them in. A lot of people kind of quietly off to the side express that opinion, which I, I don’t disagree with. I mean I think some of the technology is great. It’s like for me a battery, electric delivery truck that’s gonna go around the city stop and go traffic a school bus. Like those are perfect battery use cases, right? There’s no reason to have a Diesel engine idling and all that stuff. But once you get out into the, or in the ports, for example, once you get out into the interstate, battery doesn’t make sense anymore.

Holman (1h 37m 55s):

Anymore. So that’s when hydrogen fuel cell takes over. And I think hydrogen fuel cell for over the road truckers is gonna be a pretty big deal. So, we talked to Dana, we talked to Nikola, we talked to Toyota. Oh and I, I need to reconnect with Bollinger. Bollinger was there and if you remember we had Robert Bollinger on the show before a couple times and we were talking about their B, his B one truck. Well they put the B one and B two aside to pivot to commercial vehicles and they had their B four on display, but behind the B four was a B one again. And I said, what’s up with this and they said, well, now that we’re caught up with our engineering on the commercial vehicle, we’re putting people back on the B one project. No way. So it sounds like the, the consumer facing part of Bollinger is gonna be reactivated and B one is gonna have continued development.

Holman (1h 38m 41s):

So I gave them my card. I wanna reach out to Robert. What great Because We thought that were, that wasn dead. Yeah. And so I want to get him back on the show to talk about their pivot. And this time I will ask him how he pronounces his last name. Well, you, you can, yeah. That was embarrassing for me. Hi. What’s your, who are you? What do you do? I knew, but I just didn’t know if that wasn bowling or Bollinger. But by the way, that was really early on. We had Bollinger on when the company was in, its in, we were in our infancy. Well, both, yeah, we were just two babies in our diapers. It’d be nice to catch up. So I’m gonna try and reach out to him ’cause I would love to get the story on what’s happened in the last three or four years since we, since we talked to him last. And I think that’ll be cool. All right now that the printer has stopped spinning out pages and pages and pages.

Holman (1h 39m 23s):

It’s time to read your email.

2 (1h 39m 25s):

You email? Yeah, I email. Do it. We email. That’s right. Everybody email Type it up. You email proofread. I email Send it. We email. Click it. Everybody email.

Holman (1h 39m 42s):

The font size on these is not much better than the last time you printed. Nope. Oh Lord. All, right? You wanna start or you want me to start? Go. The Truck Show Podcast at Truck show Frontier spotting is the subject line from Tim Rolson No dog and Holman. I wonder if he was a K Rock fan or did I mention No Dogg on, I think he, I think he mentions it in the email. Got All. right. So first thank you for reminding me of the no dog reference and DJ Tweeter days. A couple of episodes ago that wasn actually an old B team episode that turned me onto The Truck Show Podcast a few years ago.

Holman (1h 40m 24s):

Second, oh, rest in peace. The B team. Yeah. Second, I need you to settle an argument. Oh, I like this. I have a 1976 Dodge Ram charger and my wife insists that it’s not a truck. Your input will decide who’s right. Third, attached is a picture of a frontier taken from my daily, a 2022 Pro four X. Lastly, as a SoCal native that has

Lightning (1h 40m 53s):

Relocated to the Cincinnati area. Sorry about that. I appreciate the California Pompousness. All the talk about in-N-Out makes me jealous and hungry every time. Thanks for the content. Tim Rolson. Oh,

Holman (1h 41m 3s):

By the way, did you know that a new

Lightning (1h 41m 5s):


Holman (1h 41m 6s):

Has opened exactly 1.25 miles from the pod shed?

Lightning (1h 41m 11s):


Holman (1h 41m 12s):

Right down there, dude.

Lightning (1h 41m 14s):

No kidding.

Holman (1h 41m 14s):


Lightning (1h 41m 15s):

Are we going there afterwards? I

Holman (1h 41m 16s):

Just, he reminded me and I just thought, Hmm,

Lightning (1h 41m 19s):

I could use a i I don’t think I think it’s too late right now to do a double double. No, I can do a

Holman (1h 41m 23s):

Double double, but I’ll do a single,

Lightning (1h 41m 24s):

I’ll do a single and animal style fries.

Holman (1h 41m 26s):

I like it. That

Lightning (1h 41m 27s):

Sounds so good right now. So is the Ram charger Yes. A truck?

Holman (1h 41m 32s):

Yes, absolutely.

Lightning (1h 41m 34s):


Holman (1h 41m 34s):

Yeah. Why wouldn’t it be a truck?

Lightning (1h 41m 37s):

So it’s got body on frame.

Holman (1h 41m 38s):

Okay. It’s body on frame. It’s four Wheel Drive. It’s a longitudinally mounted engine. It’s got

Lightning (1h 41m 43s):

A cargo area, doesn’t it? And

Holman (1h 41m 44s):

The top comes off. So it’s an open cargo area. The only thing it’s missing is the bed separate from the cab in that particular matrix. So yes, it’s a truck. It’s not a pickup truck, but it definitely is a truck.

Lightning (1h 41m 56s):

Yeah. So sorry wife

Holman (1h 41m 59s):

You lose. Do you think she’ll let him listen to the podcast again or is that

Lightning (1h 42m 3s):

Not if she hears this?

Holman (1h 42m 4s):

No, don’t let her listen to this episode.

Lightning (1h 42m 6s):

And I am gonna, Tim, I’m gonna put this email off to the side because I’m gonna send you some T S P stickers.

Holman (1h 42m 11s):

All, right? I got this one. Hey, my name is Cameron Williams.

Lightning (1h 42m 14s):

Hi Cameron.

Holman (1h 42m 14s):

First all, love the podcast. Found the podcast after seeing you guys do a panel at sema. I like keeping up on the automotive news you guys put out. I’ve been in the truck accessories industry for 10 years, automotive for 20. I work at a place called Thunder Mountain Truck Outfitters, just a small business in Logan Utah. We do lift kits for trucks, Jeeps, spinner, vans, steps, bed covers, and so on. It’s a fun job tearing into brand new trucks. And Jeeps. Back in October of 22, my Jeep, that was my daily was totaled. Not my fault. Ouch. With the money I got from that, I was able to find a 2020 G M C 2,500 SS l e Jira Max. I didn’t pay the inflated price like most were paying back then after I got the truck looking around under the dash, I found a surprise, a bank’s pedal monster that wasn a cool bonus that I didn’t even know it had.

Holman (1h 42m 57s):

So my question for you, what Banks products should I be putting on next? I know I want to get the exhaust, but wondered what else would be good. Thanks for your time. And check us out at Thunder Mountain Truck Outfitters and that’s from Cameron Williams.

Lightning (1h 43m 10s):

So first thing, Cameron, you need an ID dash 2020. I understand that. Yep. So you need an ID dash data monster or an ID dash super gauge. They’re both identical with the addition of the data logging feature in the data monster. Now, why do you need an ID dash? It’ll allow you to control that pedal monster that you got for free as an added bonus right from your dashboard or wherever you decide to mount the ID dash. You can control the levels of the pedal, monster cd, sport track, et cetera. And you can choose from hundreds of parameters to also display. So it’ll show you all the stuff that your dashboard doesn’t. So that’s what I would add first. As far as performance for your 2020, I would start with the I, I’d start with the derringer because it’s, you can never have enough power.

Lightning (1h 43m 52s):

81 horsepower, 144 pound feet of torque. And it’s awesome for towing. So if you’ve got any kind of a travel trailer, fifth Wheel, whatever, the derringer is a must. Then you go to the Ram air intake and then the Monster exhaust in that order made in China is the subject line from Trevor. Let’s see here. If I can read this small type, I’ll reserve my comment first. I’d be curious what your Holman argument would be if you were to defend your Apple homer stance, but at the same time, push back on Lincoln doing the same thing as Apple. Okay,

Holman (1h 44m 27s):

So, we talked about it last episode. Lincoln is bringing a Chinese built car to America and I took umbrage with that. And Trevor, I don’t like your tone. I think that you’re being passive aggressive and I can absolutely defend that. I don’t have an American made phone choice, period.

Lightning (1h 44m 44s):

Lincoln, there is no Motorola. Even if there was, Motorola was No,

Holman (1h 44m 48s):

Everything’s built overseas. Yeah, there, there is no choice. And I wanna have an iPhone and Apple ecosystem is what I’m into and that’s what I’m stuck with. However, I don’t have to buy a Chinese car and if there was an American phone, I would probably consider that. But there’s not, there’s not an option. So to me, that’s my defense right there is I have the choice. I bought an American made Jeep that was built in Toledo, Ohio. So before you say, we’ll put your money where your mouth is, I literally just did less than six months ago and it’s sitting in my driveway and don’t be jealous. It’s awesome.

Lightning (1h 45m 19s):

So Holman, what you’re saying to Trevor is you get

13 (1h 45m 22s):

Nothing, you lose. Good day, sir.

Holman (1h 45m 27s):

I am saying good day sir. You lose. You get nothing but my answer and opinion. I’ve got this one here from Colby White says Holman in Idaho and he says, I was out checking fishing licenses on ice fishermen. You know, game warden thing. When I come around the corner and I see this and in the middle of a snow covered frozen lake is a big giant wiener

Lightning (1h 45m 52s):

Shape. Yep.

Holman (1h 45m 52s):

Hold on. Actually not a wiener, somebody a drawing

Lightning (1h 45m 54s):

Wiener shape. Yes.

Holman (1h 45m 56s):

And Colby says, I immediately start looking for a 3 92 Jeep. And Holman never found him, but it sure looks like his work. Holman, you traveled through Southeast Idaho recently. If so, keep up the good work. I will cop to nothing as my friend Vern Simons once said, when somebody asked him a particular question about one of his Jeep projects, you a cop. Which is funny to me. I think

Lightning (1h 46m 25s):

Holman’s got a staff, he’s got minions out there working

Holman (1h 46m 28s):

For him. I mean, that would be awesome. I’d have him working on the show if that was true. Yeah,

Lightning (1h 46m 32s):

This one’s from Seth Anderson. Hey, Lightning still having sticker supply issues. L o l. Just checking on my stickers. No, I sent ’em out in batches and I haven’t got to your batch yet. It is happening. We, there is proof that stickers are going out. I’m just not efficient. And he reattached the Nissan frontier

Holman (1h 46m 49s):

He want. He really wants that sticker. Yeah. He’s trying to prove to you.

Lightning (1h 46m 52s):

So here’s the photo of the Nissan Frontier is shot through his truck. By the way, if you’re new to the show, we are still doing frontier spotting. And what that is, is you take a photo of a Nissan Frontier out in the wild from the cab of your truck and you email it to Truck show Truck show And I Lightning send you a sticker, allegedly.

Holman (1h 47m 11s):

Are you talking about the one from Ryan Holyoke that says Good morning on my way to work in my 22 Ford F three 50 Crew Cab four by four. And I caught this guy coming up my side in my mirror and snapped A quick pick. I’m a huge Nissan fan. My wife drives the Titan everyday to work. This is our second Titan. We also own a Frontier currently also have a 2015 Infiniti Q 50 in the driveway as well. We love Nissan quality and reliability. I only have 25,000 miles on my Ford and it’s already gonna the shop for three different issues. Shake my head. My wife has had her 2017 Nissan Titan since 2019. And the only thing I’ve done to the truck is changed the battery and buy a set of tires. Love the show and thanks for all the great content and sure enough, that is a A Frontier, A Lifted Titan. A Q 50. And that was from Ryan Holyoke.

Holman (1h 47m 54s):


Lightning (1h 47m 54s):

A garage. You’s got

Holman (1h 47m 55s):

There. Thanks brother.

Lightning (1h 47m 56s):

Truck Show Send us an email if you’ve got Frontier Spotted in front of you, snap that photo, send it to us Church show and we’ll send you off a sticker.

2 (1h 48m 9s):

The truck show. The truck show. The truck show.

Lightning (1h 48m 14s):


Holman (1h 48m 15s):

And you can fight us on the social he is at LB sliding. I’m Matt Sean p Holman, and we are at Truck Show Podcast. Once you give us a follow, give us some reviews. Also, we would love to get your five star reviews on Apple or Spotify or Google I. don Dunno, is Google doing it

Lightning (1h 48m 32s):

Yet? I don’t know if they

Holman (1h 48m 34s):

Keep track of.

Lightning (1h 48m 34s):

Well, the ones that really matter still are Apple. Even though Spotify, they do. Even Apple does not give back to their podcasters. Like they don’t do squat for guys like us. No, they don’t Spotify, but

Holman (1h 48m 43s):

We still

Lightning (1h 48m 44s):

Need them. But by the way, Spotify, I’m on like this mailing list and they’re always sending me stuff like, how do we get your podcast to more people? How do we help? What do you like? What do you not like? Yeah, Apple’s like kick rocks buddy. Yeah.

Holman (1h 48m 54s):

They’re like, we don’t need you. They don’t

Lightning (1h 48m 55s):

Even like you. The problem is that’s where the ratings all come from is Apple. So please go and most of the traffic. Yep. Use your Apple podcast app and leave us a five star view. And if you, if you’re so inclined, leave some comedy, make some make a funny or

Holman (1h 49m 12s):

Leave some comedy on 6 5 7 2 0 5 61 0 5. Five Star Hotline needs you. The five star hotline wants to hear from you and we do too. So you can hit us up there or email of course, truck show Lightning at truck show and Holman at truck show If you wanna reach either of us individually and you can slide into Old Lightnings dms or shoot him a note and he’ll give you a Winky Winky mm. On some Banksy Banksy products. Yep.

Lightning (1h 49m 38s):

I I I did it and I’ll do it again. Holman. I got a double dog, dare for you. You ready? Yep. I dare you to have another swig of that chicken cock, whatever it’s called. Yep. As you do the Nissan plug.

Holman (1h 49m 53s):

Why would I do it while I’m doing it?

Lightning (1h 49m 55s):

I just, I wanna see how it goes. Like meaning, oh, there it is. I’m curious if the, if it starts out smooth and then it gets rocky as the the sponsor mention goes on. I

Holman (1h 50m 11s):

Haven’t had one iota of change in anything. I just, I drank it. that wasn that was a, what do you think that is? Ounce and a half?

Lightning (1h 50m 19s):

Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Probably ounce and a half and a half. Yeah.

Holman (1h 50m 24s):

It’s got a good nose to it.

Lightning (1h 50m 25s):

That’s what it’s called when you smell it.

Holman (1h 50m 27s):

Got a good nose to it. Let’s see here. Definitely some, some good notes and oh, it reminds me I have something that you need to try maybe next week from Nashville Barrel Company Cherry Dr. Pepper Bourbon.

Lightning (1h 50m 47s):

Really? Yeah. That does sound like it’s

Holman (1h 50m 50s):

Michaels of tea. It smells like Cherry Dr. Pepper.

Lightning (1h 50m 52s):

Why can’t I try it now? Oh, because

Holman (1h 50m 54s):

It’s, I don’t have it out here. It’s in Oh, I see. It’s in the house. Got it. It’s where many other bottles live. I just have a a, you know, a selection out here. All right. Bottoms up.

Lightning (1h 51m 4s):

I I I’ve already finished my thimble full over here.

Holman (1h 51m 6s):


Lightning (1h 51m 7s):

So Yeah, I’m, I’m, I’m scared of this stuff. You sucked it down. God.

Holman (1h 51m 12s):

Done. You’re a trooper.

Lightning (1h 51m 13s):


Holman (1h 51m 15s):

That’s nice. All, right?

Lightning (1h 51m 16s):


Holman (1h 51m 17s):

All. right. If you’re looking for a half ton or a mid-size truck, what are you laughing

Lightning (1h 51m 21s):

About? Just I can see you puckering.

Holman (1h 51m 23s):

You think I’m gonna just like fall apart because I had some whiskey?

Lightning (1h 51m 26s):

No, but that wasn funny watching you pucker.

Holman (1h 51m 29s):

All. right? Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Lightning. Do you need that guy to tell you to be quiet again? Lightning

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Lightning. Lightning

Lightning (1h 51m 37s):

Lightning Lightning All. right. All. right All right. I get it. I get it. I get it. I,

Holman (1h 51m 40s):

It just, let’s, let’s thank our friends of Nissan. They, they’ve decided to hang out with us for another year. Dude, that’s a, that’s a huge commitment to the show. And we’d like you guys to, to make a commitment back to us that you’ll at least go down to your local Nissan dealer. And if you’re in the market for a truck, just test drive the frontier. Test drive the Titan. Just give ’em a shot. Just

Lightning (1h 51m 57s):

Sink into those Zero gravity.

Holman (1h 51m 58s):

Yeah. Turn up the Fender audio system. Throw some stuff in the bed with the spray and Bedliner and util track, you know, rails and Titan, Titan XD five year, a hundred thousand mile warranty. Nobody in the industry touches that. So you can build and price and find out all the features and everything you need to know about trim models and pricing at Nissan And

Lightning (1h 52m 16s):

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Holman (1h 52m 43s):

And if you been let down by blown out stock shocks, head over to bill Bilstein Whether you’ve got a daily driver, a truck that tows or an off-road vehicle, bill Bilstein has direct replacement and upgraded performance shocks. Even if you have a lift, you can take off those crappy old white shocks and throw on a set of mono tubes on there. Bill Bilstein is the inventor of the monotube shock. and then make some of the best products in the business. Bill Bilstein shocks for your truck are specifically tuned to your application and you’ll be hard pressed to find a better product out there. I trust Bill Bilstein on my builds. You should trust them too. Bill Bilstein

Lightning (1h 53m 15s):

And you know what’s better than getting lost out in the wilderness or in the desert not getting lost out in the Wilderness store in

Holman (1h 53m 21s):

The desert All. right. That definitely sounds better.

Lightning (1h 53m 23s):

You know what’ll keep you from getting lost is onX. If, if you go to onX Offroad, you’ll find the best mapping system available. It works across platforms, it works with CarPlay and Android Auto. It syncs seamlessly across all of your devices. So you can sit at home and then beam it basically to all of your other devices. It

Holman (1h 53m 41s):

Syncs automatically. Yeah. You don’t even have to do anything.

Lightning (1h 53m 43s):

Oh, you’re right. It is automatic, isn’t

Holman (1h 53m 44s):

It? Yes. You can create a a route with the new Route Builder feature on your laptop and it’ll automatically show across all of your devices that are logged there. And you

Lightning (1h 53m 51s):

Can share it with your friends too,

Holman (1h 53m 52s):

And you can share it with your friends. onX Offroad Elite for 99 99 a year has a bunch of features. You get nationwide private land boundaries and ownership info. So you can

Lightning (1h 54m 0s):

So wait, do then, do I know if I’m running across the Holman Mining claim out in half the 3 95,

Holman (1h 54m 6s):

It won’t be my name associated with it, but yeah, if you were to go across Rancher Holman’s property, you would know when he can shoot and not shoot. Does it say

Lightning (1h 54m 15s):

Rancher Holman?

Holman (1h 54m 16s):

No, it does not. You could try onX Offroad for free for seven days and you can upgrade to premium for 29 99 a year. Or Elite for 99. 99 a year. Elite offers all the features of premium, including property boundaries, landowner names, lot info, and a bunch of elite benefits. onX Offroad is my app of choice for planning my next Adventure. And it could be yours if I invite you along and send you a link,

Lightning (1h 54m 40s):

Don, don’t think you will.

Holman (1h 54m 41s):

I won’t, but I’m just saying in theory I could do that. Could, because it’s super easy to do.

Lightning (1h 54m 45s):

Won’t won’t, but could, but could.

Holman (1h 54m 46s):

Yeah. I, I like that. Yeah, it just like SUVs in the 90. I’m never gonna take it Offroad, but I could. and onX Offroad dot com

Lightning (1h 54m 52s):

And to sign off, just remember one thing. Thanks for watching

15 (1h 54m 55s):

And remember, everything matters.

Lightning (1h 54m 59s):

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