Jim Morrison from Jeep discusses the mid-cycle refresh of the 2024 Jeep Wrangler, the triumph of Lightning over ghost cars, and Holman provides a review of the Banks Pedal Monster on The Truck Show Podcast. This podcast is proudly brought to you by Nissan, in collaboration with Banks Power and onX Offroad.




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Jay “Lightning” Tilles (0s):

Holman. If you don’t mind, I need to start the show with a quick phone call.

Matt Gamble (6s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7s):

Hey, Matt Gamble. This is Lightning and Holman from the truck. Show. Podcast. I dunno if you’re familiar with us. It’s a, it’s a podcast that talks about trucks and also

Sean P. Holman (15s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15s):

And, and headlights. There’s

Sean P. Holman (16s):

A vicious rumor going on that Lightning achieved a next level of something in your presence.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23s):

So I want you to tell the world Lightning leveled up. What happened? What happened last night on the way home as we were carpooling down the 6 0 5 South? What did I achieve?

Matt Gamble (34s):

You, you had to, to clean up a bit in the car from excitement.

Sean P. Holman (38s):

That’s disgusting

Matt Gamble (39s):

As you un un ghosted a ghost car. Is that what Re resurrected? What? How does that

Sean P. Holman (43s):

Un ghosted a ghost car? That’s an interesting way of saying that.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (47s):

We roll up on a, I don’t know what it was like a Nissan duke or

Sean P. Holman (52s):

Something in your excitement. You have no idea.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (55s):

I don’t recall. Do you recall what it was? Matt

Matt Gamble (58s):

New cars all look the same to me? Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (60s):

No, he’s a, he’s an a vintage car guy from a distance. We see this car. Of course, it’s got the taillights out. How, how were

Sean P. Holman (1m 6s):

You able to see it?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 8s):

It was just after dark. So there was some ambient light. Just a little, just see little

Sean P. Holman (1m 12s):

Residual sunlight left in the, in the world. Exactly.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 14s):


Matt Gamble (1m 15s):

He’s like, he’s like that kid from the sixth sense. He just picks those things out from like a mile away.

Sean P. Holman (1m 20s):

For me, my superpower is, I can sense when there’s a police car around for Lightning, it’s somebody doesn’t have their lights on. We see

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 26s):

It and we roll up and we’re in the carpool lane. I think we’re in the carpool lane or the fast lane, and I roll my window down. This story

Sean P. Holman (1m 32s):

Is no

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 33s):

Stops. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Sean P. Holman (1m 34s):

The story is already falling apart. No, no, no, no. You don’t know what kind of car it is. The time of day is suspect. You’ve claimed that, that you’ve seen the ghost car. Oh, but there’s ambient lights. So maybe it wasn’t even time for the headlights. And you don’t know what lane you’re in. I don’t believe any of this. I feel like you’re fabricating this story and bringing Matt Gamble in. Did you put, did you pull up to Matt Gamble’s house in a rendition van and throw a pillowcase over his head and tell him that you’re coming along on the story? Because I need you to be a third party witness. ’cause I’m telling you right now, if we were in court, you would be dismissed immediately. Okay.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 6s):

All right. Matt, I’m gonna shut ups. Let’s,

Matt Gamble (2m 8s):

Let’s, what’s the term that everyone likes these days? You’re, you’re gaslighting everyone.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 12s):


Sean P. Holman (2m 12s):

Feel like he’s gaslighting us with headlands.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 14s):

Hold on a second, Matt, you tell Holman what went down.

Matt Gamble (2m 19s):

I I’m gonna, I’m gonna corroborate the story here and, and, and remember the rule is believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.

Sean P. Holman (2m 30s):

Well, considering this is an audio only podcast that tell

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 33s):

Me exactly where I, this doesn’t really work at all

Sean P. Holman (2m 36s):

For this for you. Yeah.

Matt Gamble (2m 37s):

Jay spots this car. We are, we are confirmed in the carpool lane from a distance. Does that car have its lights off? Is there a car there? Yes, there is. we roll up on it and I’ve got fancy new LED headlights in my old station wagon. Flash the headlights at him and then roll up Jay rolls down the window, crank windows and starts making, I don’t know what the hand motions were. How to describe those.

Sean P. Holman (3m 10s):

Yeah. Well, first the person was completely shocked that a old station wagon pulled up next to him. Secondly, he was shocked at the man communicating from the passenger seat who was still rolling down the windows after about 30 seconds. hold on, I have to roll down the window so you can hear me yell at you

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 29s):

A little bit of that.

Sean P. Holman (3m 30s):

What was the approximate speed?

Matt Gamble (3m 32s):

It didn’t What’s the 70 miles per hour officer?

Sean P. Holman (3m 35s):

This was at speed? Yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 37s):

At speed. Okay. Oh,

Sean P. Holman (3m 38s):

At speed. All right.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 39s):

Roll down the window. I make some hand gestures. Hand gesture.

Sean P. Holman (3m 42s):


Matt Gamble (3m 43s):

Guy, guy looks over and I would say no more than two seconds later. Illumination, which is

Sean P. Holman (3m 51s):

Probably Yes.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 53s):


Sean P. Holman (3m 53s):

Which is probably like eight hand gestures from Lightning because he’s so amped up on freaking Monster at the moment. I listen,

Matt Gamble (4m 2s):

He needs that. He needs that touring. All right. You get that touring into him.

Sean P. Holman (4m 6s):

All I know is Matt Gamble is about 50% more believable than Lightning. Mm. So I’m gonna allow it for the sake of the show and for entertainment value. Although there’s always gonna be lingering doubts in the back of my mind.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 18s):

No, no, it’s true. All of it.

Matt Gamble (4m 21s):

I was as shocked as you were. I I was like, is that, that’s gotta be the first time that he’s ever successfully un ghosted a car,

Sean P. Holman (4m 30s):

At least with any witnesses, because if you believe him, yeah. He’s the number one un ghoster in America. Mm.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 38s):

I take took great pride in that episode right

Sean P. Holman (4m 41s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 42s):

It was, it was fulfilling. I mean, it was so much I couldn’t, couldn’t wait to get you on the show to talk about it. Alright, Maggie, gamble. You’re the best. And good luck with that.

Sean P. Holman (4m 49s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 49s):

Also the worst. Good luck with that Ellis Hybrid program. You’re trying to hatch your bake, right? We’ll talk. Oh, hey.

Sean P. Holman (4m 53s):

What? Hey, hey, Matt Campbell. hold on. hold on. Hey, so Lightning brings up this thing and he’s like, but Matt doesn’t have, I

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 1s):

Don’t know

Matt Gamble (5m 1s):

What you’re

Sean P. Holman (5m 1s):

Talking about, but I don’t don just, that’s why I said the thing. And he said that the thing doesn’t have a home. And I said, well, there’s a pretty nice old pickup truck that’s a different make that could really piss people off sitting under car cover in your warehouse. You’d be more than happy or welcome to, to use for such things. Just saying. All right. Back. Yeah. We’ll talk to you later. Hey,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 19s):

Thanks man. Talk to you later. Bye

Sean P. Holman (5m 21s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 23s):

Just hung up on him. Oh,

Sean P. Holman (5m 23s):

Well that sucks for him. Hey, welcome everybody to episode 20. I dunno, six of The Truck. Show Podcast. And this is Holman speaking. We’re

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 33s):

High into the two hundreds So I. Think we’re like a two 80 seven-ish, somewhere

Sean P. Holman (5m 37s):

Around there. That doesn’t matter. Season two episode 26. by the way, did you see what I did there? I said, this is Holman speaking. Did you I, that was me starting the show. The one you do? No, I was just being you for a moment.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 47s):

I think it’s cool. And

Sean P. Holman (5m 50s):

Anyways, So, Don, don’t

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 52s):

I have a question for you? A legitimate question. Oh, okay. Are your arms tired?

Sean P. Holman (5m 55s):

Because I’ve been flying all day. Yes.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 56s):


Sean P. Holman (5m 57s):

I flew to a place, and then I spent time in that place doing cool things. And I flew home today and I said, Hey, I’m gonna be landing in Long Beach at five o’clock. What time are you meeting me at the podcast studio? And you said, what? Yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 12s):

I did not realize that we were doing one tonight,

Sean P. Holman (6m 15s):

Right? Yeah. Because you’re going on vacation and then I’m going on vacation. So we’re taking care of our podcast listener to make sure there’s no interruption in service, if you will.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 23s):

I will say that in just shy of six years, we have only missed two weeks. So earlier today, one of our IT guys comes into my office and he knows I’m the keeper of all the gear. And he says, you do a podcast, right? Yes. And he says, well, a friend of mine’s thinking about doing a podcast.

Sean P. Holman (6m 40s):

I hope you told him And, that if you want free advice, you better subscribe and leave a five star review right now.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 45s):

He actually, one he does apparently, listen, he’s listened to some of The Truck, Show Podcast. And I said, what’s the content? He told me it was some, I don’t know, it was it related or something, whatever. And I said, tell your friend before I give any advice about equipment or any of that stuff, tell your friend, can she do something every single week for the next five years? Yep. Once a week or more every week for the next five or

Sean P. Holman (7m 9s):

Biweekly or whatever, whatever your schedule happens to be. Can you do

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 12s):

It for a really longtime, consistently no matter what? And he said, well, what do you mean? I said, that’s the only way to build an audience. Yeah. Unless you’re doing it for like, you’re gonna make a piece of audio that’s gonna go to like company employees, and it’s not supposed to go to the world that’s different. That’s one

Sean P. Holman (7m 24s):

Off. Or it’s just you doing your manifesto and you don’t expect anybody to listen to it anyway.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 27s):

That’s exactly. And some people do that. They just wanna talk to a microphone. It be recorded for posterity if you’re trying to build an audience. I go, dude, you need to tell her she’s gotta get committed anyway. So he said, all right, I’ll,

Sean P. Holman (7m 36s):

I’ll committed to a insane asylum because both, sometimes that’s how I feel.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 40s):

Both. Yeah. So I said when she gives you the green light, I’ll tell you what gear to buy. All right.

Sean P. Holman (7m 45s):

I think that makes sense. So tell me about, oh, we have an old board, by the way, that we can gift them if they would like our old

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 51s):

Board. I was. Oh, okay. You might be able to make some cash.

Sean P. Holman (7m 55s):

I’ll hate. I will. Okay. Well, it’s just sitting in the garage. So I.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 57s):

Forgot that you had that.

Sean P. Holman (7m 58s):

We have that. We have some

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 59s):

Other equipment too. Okay. That’s probably not good for the Listeners.

Sean P. Holman (8m 1s):

All right. Well, we’re gonna move on to why I was gone. I was in St. George, Utah driving the, the all new Wrangler 24 JL update. And I can’t, with

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 11s):

These smaller grill,

Sean P. Holman (8m 12s):

I mean, the I would say redesign grill. Okay. It’s not smaller, it’s, oh,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 15s):

We’ll get to that. Okay.

Sean P. Holman (8m 16s):

Okay. All right. Yeah, so anyway, I, I just got back and so we’ve got a interview with our, a listener and friend of the show, Jim Morrison, and there’s a few little Lightning nuggets in there for you. Oh, no. So no. Why do you, why do you worry when somebody talks about you? Because

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 31s):

It’s you?

Sean P. Holman (8m 32s):

No, I said Jim had something for you.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 34s):

So, alright. Interesting. I’m, I’m curious, but Jim is so close to you that he might insult me.

Sean P. Holman (8m 39s):

I mean he might, it would be funny if he did. Hey Lightning,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 44s):

Were you about to say,

Sean P. Holman (8m 45s):

Did I hear? Yeah, I did chair. No, no, no, no. Oh boy. This could be one of those punchy episodes, isn’t it? Yeah.

3 (8m 55s):

I mean, no, no. Oh, no, no, no, no. What? No now. No, I mean now, now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Sean P. Holman (9m 6s):

No. Wanna do show? Yes,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 7s):

I’m waiting for you. Well,

Sean P. Holman (9m 8s):

Why are you waiting for me?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 9s):

You were mid-sentence before I interrupted you. Well just, alright.

Sean P. Holman (9m 14s):

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Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 36s):

On the street is one, Mr. Sean P Holman had a chance to test drive his 3 92 featuring a bank’s Pedal, Monster and I dash, which I would like to hear more about later.

Sean P. Holman (9m 47s):

Okay, we can do that. Yeah. So if you need some extra data, like I wanted, there’s really only one game in town and that’s the, the ID dash. But you can also attach that to a Pedal Monster and find out that Track 30 is a horrible idea. Well

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 5s):

Wait, you’re turning ’em off the product. Well, well what about City three?

Sean P. Holman (10m 8s):

City three’s?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 9s):

Much better. More your style.

Sean P. Holman (10m 10s):

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Track three almost did a wheelie. So I’m like, okay, that’s,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 15s):

That’s aggressive. Okay. So what he’s talking about is a Pedal Monster. It’s the world’s most, it’s the world’s most advanced throttle controller I think you ever made. From sports cars to full-sized Diesel pickup trucks and everything in between. If you’ve got throttle lag, check out the Pedal Monster at Banks power.com

Sean P. Holman (10m 32s):

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Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 19s):

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Sean P. Holman (11m 29s):

To this tomorrow, I think

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 30s):

There’s tomorrow it’s, it’s 4th of July, it’s, it’s over. So please go to onyx maps.com and use Freedom 30 at checkout for 30% off the best map app.

Sean P. Holman (11m 40s):

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4 (11m 55s):

The truck show. We’re gonna show you what we know. We’re gonna answer what The truck, because Truck s The Truck show. We have the lifted, we have the lower end, everything in between. We’ll talk about trucks that run on Diesel and the ones that run on gasoline. The truck show. The truck show The truck show road.

5 (12m 26s):

It’s the truck show with your hosts Lightning and Holman.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 32s):

Alright, so you were where and spoke to who when

Sean P. Holman (12m 36s):

I was in St. George, Utah in the amazing state park. One of the most amazing state parks in the entire country for off-roading called Sand Hollow. And I was talking to the head of Jeep North America, Jim Morrison.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (12m 52s):

Oh, so this is a

4 (12m 54s):

Truck review? Yeah. Rolling Dragon truck nuts.

Sean P. Holman (13m 3s):

I don’t know that you would ever put truck nuts on a Jeep, but that’s just me. Alright. Back again inside a, another Jeep with a friend of the show, Jim Morrison, who happens to be a fairly important guy. I guess your current title is Vice President of Jeep North America. Yeah. Is that right?

Jim Morrison from Jeep (13m 23s):

Well, I’ll sort it right? There’s, it’s a little different, but that’s good enough. I just, Jim from Jeep,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 27s):

Why didn’t you get someone actually heavy? You know what I’m saying? That’s so lightweight. VP of Jeep North America.

Sean P. Holman (13m 33s):

Yeah. He just runs the whole like North American arm of Jeep. That’s all he’s doing. Yeah, Jim from Jeep. All right. So we got Jim from Jeep back and we are sitting in and, sorry Lightning, the car’s running the ACS on because it’s 93 degrees outside. So we’re in the new 24 JL Wrangler and we just spent the day offroading in this thing and the whole lineup. So A, lot of changes for 24. The obvious ones are gonna be the grill. I think that’s the probably the easiest one. 10 new Wheel designs. You’ve simplified the lineup. No more E torque engines. So now the hybrid is the four XE with the two liter turbo. Or you can get the regular two liter turbo. The three six.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 13s):

When did they officially end the e torque?

Sean P. Holman (14m 16s):

Well, now I guess so 24 is not gonna have any e torque because e torque was a mild hybrid. That was sort of the stop gap until the real hybrids came. And now that four by E is selling some, you know, amazing amount. It’s the number one plugin hybrid in North America.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 31s):

Two guys in my office have

Sean P. Holman (14m 32s):

Them. Yeah, I mean they’re just, they’re selling like crazy and I’ve got one in the driveway here, but in the Grand Cherokee, why have the complication of a mild hybrid? So no longer in the mix for 24 And of course we still have a 3 92.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (14m 44s):

Yeah, of course. Lots of choice for our customers on the powertrain side. And then, you know, we’ve completely upped the game with capability with technology. We’ve upped the game with safety, even crammed some airbags into the sport bar. And then one of the unexpected things we’ve done is we keep making the scene even more refined. But of course it’s a Wrangler. So you gotta start talking about capability first. All

Sean P. Holman (15m 7s):

Right, so from a capability standpoint, you now have the Rubicon X package, which takes the regular Rubicon and overlay steel bumpers. The 35. So kinda like what the XR package used to be. The 3 92 automatically gets 30 fives now and you now have the option for 8,000 pound worn winch from the factory that’s been crash tested and everything ready to go on it. You also went to a full float Dana 44 rear axle, which upped your towing from 35 to 5,000 pounds, which that’s a pretty big deal for the Wrangler

Jim Morrison from Jeep (15m 37s):

Crowd. It is, you know, both the, the full float from a capability and a customization standpoint. And by the fact that the way that that layout lets us up the trailer tow to 5,000. So combination of, of great Offroad tech, great customization, tech and and towing So I Dunno if you’ve got a chance to tow that Airstream today, but it was pretty cool. 5,000 pounds. Yeah. Is, you know, it is a pretty big trailer and, and you know, now Wrangler can do it without breaking a sweat. Yep.

Sean P. Holman (16m 5s):

Which is, which is awesome. So the other things to talk about from a capability standpoint is when we look at the four by e four by E now has off-Road Plus, which is great for in high range sand mode basically defaults to the engine to the ice side of things for more immediate throttle response. And it actually keeps charging the battery in the background so that you still have electricity left for the battery side if you want to go on the trail. And then you’ve got the Offroad plus and four low, which gets you a, a bias toward the electric side of things and rock crawl. But you still have all the lovely benefits of Offroad Plus anyway, which is, you know, traction control, rear locker, all that kind of stuff being, you know, dead in Pedal for crawling.

Sean P. Holman (16m 51s):

And I had a chance to play with it in the new four by E with the new low range.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (16m 54s):

What you think? Do you like it? It was really good. The crawl control is really good isn’t it?

Sean P. Holman (16m 57s):

So? I put it in select track. Yep. And I put it in first gear. Yep. And I put an Offroad Plus

Jim Morrison from Jeep (17m 2s):

Because you can do manual now with Yes

Sean P. Holman (17m 3s):

You can do manual with the four way, which you couldn’t do before. Yep. And I had it in electric mode. Yes. And the guy in front of me was kind of chirping his tires off his driver, it’s a little bit too much throttle. And then I came right behind him, walked up. You didn’t hear the Tire chirp once and it was on this kind of leggy side slope. And one of the things I will commend Jeep on is you guys never hold back when it comes to immediate drive off-Road. Yes. A, lot of manufacturers don’t want journalists driving on something that’s gonna be lifting wheels and things like that. Yet here Jeep is doing that exact thing and showing people just how capable these vehicles are.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (17m 37s):

No thanks for noticing that. Because you know, we say we’ve made this more capable, we have to prove it, you know, we don’t just say it and then hope we prove it. And you saw it in the engineering videos. They live out here at San Hollow, they live in Moab, they’ve done the Rubicon trail with this thing, they understand the limits of it and we push right to the limits and you guys get the message out. And that’s part of what makes Wrangler cool is people know this thing can be taken.

Sean P. Holman (18m 3s):

And I’ll add, you know, we were on rock rails, scraping skid plates, lifting tires, they were driving on v notches. You’re basically driving on your sidewalls with a V notch. And if you were to fall in that notch, the thing would be on its side. That’s how Jeep is when you go on a media drive, like they’re actually doing off-roading. Like, does anyone

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (18m 22s):

Ever do that? Do they fall on their side and like dust the mirror and all that? No,

Sean P. Holman (18m 24s):

They’ve got, I mean they’ve got great spotters and the vehicles are capable. So as long as you pay attention to the spotter, you’re fine. It’s just a matter of not freaking out and be like, oh, I’m stabbing the brakes or doing something. But I mean they’re, you’re unloading the rear lifting tires and smashing all that weight into that front axle coming down with the wheels turned. I mean this is like real stuff. It’s, it’s, you know, not A. lot of manufacturers are willing to put their vehicles in a situation in the sometimes the lowest common denominator of driver’s hands and experience that’s gonna cause body damage. And they’re, I mean every one of those vehicles probably is gonna have to get, you know, skid plates replaced and rock rails and all that. But body’s fine. Fenders are fine, you know, if you scuffed wheels. But they’re fine with that ’cause they want you to see what the vehicles can do.

Sean P. Holman (19m 6s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 6s):

Do you think any of the drivers that were out there testing with you were left embarrassed?

Sean P. Holman (19m 12s):

No. No, it’s not like that. It’s, nobody laughs at anybody else or puts anybody else’s down ’cause they’re skilled. No, no, no,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 18s):

No, no. I don I don’t mean that like, no embarrassed, like they’re the ones that no to rim, you know,

Sean P. Holman (19m 23s):

It’s just part of it. You know, if you, you were on a racetrack and you spun it out and hit a bunch of cones, yeah, you’d be embarrassed. Or if you were on, you know, flat ground and somehow flopped it on its side, that’d be embarrassing. But no, I mean just scraping some wheels and using the skid plates, that’s part of why they have skid plates. That’s part of why the 3 92 for example, or or the 35 package has beauty rings on top of the wheels because you just replace a ring and then you can keep wheeling your wheels look good. Well you said it earlier, one of the things that you do every time you touch a, a refresh, especially on Wrangler Grand Cherokee, is you always add capability to the mix. You always figure out now you have a 34 inch forwarding with the 35 package you’ve got, you know, all I think here’s the thing is even if you’re not gonna use all that for the average consumer, there’s so much overhead that’s gonna keep the vehicle durable Offroad that you’ve built into the package.

Sean P. Holman (20m 14s):

And for those who wanna modify, it’s a really good foundation. So for a guy like me, I get to build upon what you’re making. Whereas A, lot of customers may say this is more than I’ll ever need. Which is great ’cause they’re not have to, you know, gonna worry about things breaking off road or, or things like that. Four by e get some changes. It’s great. 3 9 2 is still around. You got the winch, you’ve got the full float axle. But then we get into technology and the way I’m approaching this is it’s the JL you loved and maybe the things that you didn’t love before have been fixed and made better. So it’s a, it’s the JL only better, I guess is kind of what it is, right?

Jim Morrison from Jeep (20m 48s):

Yeah. And we solved it with technology and we added in a few creature comforts to, you know, to really make it a no compromised vehicle. We didn’t change anything that makes Wrangler cool with capability. You know, it’s, it’s still a brick. You know, we didn’t, we didn’t change the windshield angle, we didn’t dull it down. It’s still a very capable, and like you said, we made it more capable for this go around. But we added in some, some more tech. And I think the, the coolest one we’re sitting here looking at is Uconnect five, which is now a 12.3 inch Uconnect. You, you actually were part of the design of this the very first time I saw, wait, wait,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (21m 23s):

Wait, how do they fit a 12 inch screen in a

Sean P. Holman (21m 28s):

Jl? It’s awesome. So it’s, this is a landscape mode and So I explained it in there. Ah, it’s about the ratios somewhere around like three to one, which is great when you’re looking at maps. And I travel east to west a lot and I always feel like I run outta screen to see like my destination and that’s in there and in bright colors. But yeah, it’s, it, it actually is integrated really well and the screen is really incredible. So

Jim Morrison from Jeep (21m 52s):

You, you actually were part of the design of this the very first time I saw your iPad plastered, you know, and and you were running onX off of Yes. The, and

Sean P. Holman (22m 1s):

I noticed that you have brought that up both in the virtual briefing and in the media briefing about people who run their iPads on their Jeep dash. I’m like, Hey, I hear you. I see you. Yes. But that’s right. I, I run my iPad Well in the maps

Jim Morrison from Jeep (22m 13s):

On mapping software, well the maps have become so good. They, they guide you our customers. And that’s why, you know, we, we partner with Trails Offroad and we embed them now in the, in the Radiohead. So you can go, we’ll do it here just for fun, you know, we’ll go to our dashboard. You pick up adventure guides, you can go to it and, and find everything you’re looking for. We can actually pull it up, look at the, the, the map and design your trip around what you’re looking for. You can see the difficulty of the trail. You can see, you know, some of the, the way points over

Sean P. Holman (22m 47s):

The air updates with live trail Yes. Reviews or up-to-date trail conditions. And then you guys are offering 200 trails with the basic vehicle for 24 months. And then that includes all the badge of honor trails. But for 39 95 you can get 3000 trails for the subscription through them and that’ll automatically populate inside your head unit. And it’ll also show you things like where charging stations are near the trail. If you have a four XE and just A. lot of really cool information that comes. And you can even make your own waypoints in your Jeep system or be able to track a route through your Jeep head unit. More

Jim Morrison from Jeep (23m 23s):

Importantly, it’s just great integration, you know, with within the Jeep. So it’s, it’s great technology that’s, it’s not just a big radio, it’s actually useful or something. You can show pitch and roll. You can show the, the forward camera, you can show the, the off-road pages, all of the stuff that you know, you really want to in, in a, in a very capable machine. It’s Offroad hardware hard at work. The best thing is with this whole thing is it does it with clarity that you can’t move.

Sean P. Holman (23m 56s):

I was just gonna say, so two things about the screen. So it’s a 12.3 inch screen, but it is a landscape mode and it’s kind of, you know, wider by a lot. It’s probably for every one wide it’s probably three or three three wide for every one tall. Right. It’s probably the aspect ratio or something like that. But what it allows you to do is view, customize your screen view multiple things. But two things about the screen, the clarity of the cameras is almost like an HD video. And it’s so bright that even with the tops off and direct sunlight, you can still see the screen, which is something that’s huge for, for a vehicle that is going to, you know, rely on a screen this big to access so many functions.

Sean P. Holman (24m 40s):

But aside from that, you didn’t bury everything in the screen. We still have A, lot of hard physical controls, which is something really important to off rotors. ’cause you’re bouncing around on rough

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (24m 49s):

So. I’m talking about the screens and I do a lot ’cause I just, I love infotainment. I don’t know, it’s my thing. You guys know, I geek out on that and I have been really pleased with the screen. And it started before I had my truck when I was borrowing our Ram 3,500 at work and it had the Uconnect four. And I was always surprised how you always talk about inky blacks, right? And it was really good quality video. Yeah. Especially with the cameras. And this is again for in a 20 cameras truck

Sean P. Holman (25m 18s):

Are incredible. On the, on the jail

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (25m 20s):

I drive our Fords and the gm, the Fords, the Fords have gotten better. The GM’s still behind a little bit, I think. I don’t know about the refresh models. I

Sean P. Holman (25m 29s):

Think the screens are good, but the camera quality isn’t as good. When

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (25m 32s):

I really noticed it, and this is what I brought it up, when I retract my, I’ve got the full moon roof, like the whole roof of my truck is glass on a bright sunny day at noon when it’s straight overhead. I can retract that and still see the monitor and it’s clear. I was, I, I don’t know, I guess I’m just impressed with it

Sean P. Holman (25m 50s):

Then you would be really impressed with the one in the new Wrangler. ’cause it is really awesome. And, and I’ll tell you, the new dash is gorgeous. I think the implementation of the screen is really well done and it’s, it looks like the JL but the center stack has changed with this cantilever screen. The bottom part is similar, but it’s now wrapped all in fabric. You’ve got a different stereo system, you’ve got this really cool screen, the soft top still freedom panels. You’ve got the OneTouch sky if you want to go that route. There’s lots of ways to have your Jeep configured. It’s still very modular. And then like you added earlier now above your head on the roll bar or sport bar, excuse me, are the side impact airbags. And so those airbags are now going to help with side impact.

Sean P. Holman (26m 32s):

And you also had changed some structure in the door. So there’s definitely some structural upgrades as well to, to the jail.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (26m 39s):

Yeah. Side air, side curtain, airbags, front and back, you know, for, for safety I can say I’ve, I’ve had, I’ve had a a, a Jeep upside down and it’s, it’s not fun. No,

Sean P. Holman (26m 49s):

I I remember that.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (26m 50s):

You know, it’s nice to have safety is standard. The 12.3 inch Uconnect five is standard as well. And I think one of my favorites, we oh, that’s

Sean P. Holman (26m 58s):

Important to note. There is no small radio. So it used to be the five inch Yep. And then the seven inch

Jim Morrison from Jeep (27m 3s):

And the

Sean P. Holman (27m 4s):

8.4. Yeah. Everybody gets this beautiful new screen and the quality’s the same no matter what trim you get.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (27m 9s):

Exactly. And the the other thing we did was, again, without changing anything, you know, this still is a brick on the highway, so it’s, you know, sometimes it’s been hard to, to hear one of our customer’s complaints were they needed to be able to talk on the phone Yeah. With more clarity. So there’s actually seven microphones in here. It’s an array they call it. And this particular one on the top trends, we also have quiet cabin. So we’ve gone with extra lamination in the glass and extra insulation in the floors and in the, in the firewall.

Sean P. Holman (27m 43s):

They also have foam in the windshield header itself. Right.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (27m 46s):

To quiet it right down. So you can talk on the phone now at, at 70 or 80 miles an hour to your wife No problem. And no complaints. It’s like Oh. yeah, I do even know you’re in a Wrangler. That’s, that’s, you know, when you’ve won, when somebody on the other end of the line doesn’t know you’re in a Wrangler. And, and, and I think that’s, are you

Sean P. Holman (28m 2s):

Not having fun in your Wrangler? No, I’m not.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (28m 5s):

Exactly. Yeah. Don’t tell anybody. Yeah. but anyway, that was some hard engineering and, and it worked out good. So, you know, we, we like to say no more compromise in your Wrangler And. That’s one of the biggest ways to do it. That and the, and the power.

Sean P. Holman (28m 18s):

Power seats. Power seats. Okay. So the power seats are one of those things that you guys especially, you really kind of vacillated over. You, you, you had a little bit of hesitation in the team as is that authentic Wrangler. But you also know how people are using it, especially on Sahara trims and you know, trims that have, you know, the body color to everything to kinda look, give that little, you know, gwa kind of upscale look. Those are buyers that demand power seats. So you came to the compromise of we’re gonna do power seats, but we have to do it in a Jeep way. And that Jeep way is by completely waterproofing the mechanism. So if your doors are off in 34 inches of water, you can flood the floorboards and your power seats are fine.

Sean P. Holman (28m 60s):

And if it’s raining, if it’s mud, no problem. Your power seats will still work.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (29m 4s):

Yes. And you know, people will say, Hey, it’s 2024. We’re like, what are you talking about putting power seats. That’s kinda like eighties technology or seventies technology. But you know, every Jeep needs to be trail rated and water forwarding is one of its hallmarks. And we couldn’t, you know, oh, take the trail rated badge off it gets, if it gets power seats, then you’ve destroyed Wrangler. Right. So it is actually hard engineering. I remember having the, the debate with Ray Durham on the trail. We were doing the Rubicon in 2013 and we had the debate then and we held off, we’ve asked our customers, do you want it? And they’re like, ah, who caress? Whatever. But here’s the thing, I was sold, I was doing the video out in Moab, ster Jeep just ahead of, of when we went and introduced the thing in New York.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (29m 46s):

And I was, I was on a boat, a 50 degree incline and I was parked and I was waiting to, you know, for another take and you can’t

Sean P. Holman (29m 53s):

Scoop your seat up, right?

Jim Morrison from Jeep (29m 54s):

Yeah. And you’re like, you, you all, you can So I was thinking in the, in the past you would never reach down and try to adjust your seat because next thing you know, you’re in the backseat. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (30m 2s):

You can get your foot off

Jim Morrison from Jeep (30m 3s):

The brake and Yeah. Next, you know, it’s really bad, but you just reach down and touch it. You could do micro adjustments. Yeah. So that it, that is, is really, so it’s

Sean P. Holman (30m 10s):

So that help wheeling in addition to being a, you know, a fe a function. So a couple other little things. So I’m torn about this one. I know it’s a big deal. You guys love it. It’s less noise and blah blah blah blah blah. But you put the antenna in the windshield glass. Yes. And there’s no more, there’s no more antenna whip and it’s old technology. But I will tell you off-roading, the antenna whip is nice because especially parking structures, when you have a lifted Jeep, you know where the roof is and if your antenna’s not hitting your fine, but, but I get it. So now you have trail rated on both fenders of the Jeep, which is super cool. I wanna go back real quick to Willy’s. Yes. And so that’s the base model wheeling package that you have. And now you’re putting the high fenders on the Willy’s.

Sean P. Holman (30m 50s):

So the capability is there to put a bigger Tire. It comes with a 33 from the factory. Three,

Jim Morrison from Jeep (30m 56s):

Three K oh two. Yep.

Sean P. Holman (30m 57s):

And a rear locker. Yeah.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (30m 59s):

All standard willie’s outta the sh outta the gate. 3, 9, 9, 9 5. We still held the entry level price for the, for the entry level Wheeler and you know, all of the gear that you want. So it gets a full screen, a locker, bigger wheels, and you can take that thing anywhere.

Sean P. Holman (31m 14s):

Is there anything else that I’m missing?

Jim Morrison from Jeep (31m 17s):

You know, I think maybe just the overall integration. Yeah. What do you think of it? Like you, you spent more time in a jail than anybody I know. Yeah. Right? So, and you’re always pushing to the limits. You’re, you’re one of our, our biggest advocates and our toughest critics because you always know where the limits are. Right. What do you think of this new integration?

Sean P. Holman (31m 35s):

I, I I was actually really impressed. I think the, the ride quality is even better. Everything the, the way the vehicle feels on the highway, especially with the sound deadening now, it takes the edge off of, you know, some of the wind noise that used to be there. The cabin’s just a lot nicer to be in. You don’t have as much of an echo when you’re in it. And the way it drives, the way the steering feels, the way the four by e especially the four by e Offroad, like I, I’m pretty tuned into how a 3 92 feels. There weren’t A lot of changes on the 3 92 outside of the regular 24 changes. But you did some changes on the four by E to affect how it really wheels, especially in, in low range or sand modes in off-road plus high.

Sean P. Holman (32m 15s):

And those were very noticeable. And when we, you had taken me out a while back to help the team calibrate the throttle on a four by eight grand Cherokee. And one of the things we talked about is being able to be in electric mode and make it up a ledge and lift without the vehicle losing momentum and rolling backwards. Because when in EV mode you don’t have a hydraulic torque convert pushing against the drive train to keep it and So I, I could feel A lot of the work that went into where Grand Cherokee four XE was that you brought into the 24 Yeah. Four XE and you can tell off road just how much more seamless and how much more that worked. And I thought that was a really nice integration. Four XE to me is even more impressive than it was before.

Sean P. Holman (32m 55s):

And the fact that you’re able to have your cake and eat it too, both drive trains and, and go between, you know, it’s, it’s really, really impressive off road.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (33m 4s):

Yeah. Thanks for noticing that. ’cause you’re right, we did read that over and A, lot of those Grand Cherokee engineers help with this. And for me it’s really two things. Four by E is, is great for the new consumer that’s coming in, especially now that you look at our adventure guides, plan your trip, you know, you can, you can enter a trail and know what the, what the hardest part of that trail is before you enter in. So you don’t panic, you know, not knowing what you’re getting yourself into. You can follow the, the trail, you know, and follow the trail cams, you know, on, on your, on your big screen now, which is fantastic. So it’s great for the entry level wheelers, but it’s also the what A lot of the, the hardcore Fi folks are drawn to now because it is such a good extreme Wheeler too.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (33m 52s):

So Four by E’s got both extremes right now and you know, we’ve said it’s the, the next generation of of Offroading and America is going towards more electric and whether you like it or not, it’s going there, but we’re not even really in that. Right. Yeah. Because we’ve got, we’ve got the two extremes our customers can choose. You want a 3 92 V eight, we Got it, you want America’s bestselling plugin hybrid or another Wrangler? You Got it. Which

Sean P. Holman (34m 15s):

Still is amazing to me. It’s like you gave people permission to go have a Wrangler. Yes.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (34m 20s):

Well and the nice thing is too, I mean the competition didn’t see that coming, right? Yeah. So it was kind of neat. They, everyone thought it would be, you know, from maybe an import to do that, but it’s a really good Jeep Yeah. And combination of having a really good Jeep and And that electric. It’s just the next evolution of four by four technology. So,

Sean P. Holman (34m 36s):

And I can vouch for the four XE platform or the drive train. We have that in our Grand Cherokee as I’ve mentioned on the, on the show it’s my wife’s car and we have, you know, over 10,000 miles on it now and we haven’t any, any issues with it. And she drives that every day. We plug it in every night she goes and does her commuting. And it’s even more fun in a Wrangler because you have the Wrangler level of Offroad capability with it.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (34m 55s):

You know, even had one of the journalists tell me today that, you know, they were wondering how frequently our customers are plugging in almost, well it’s not over 90%. Yeah. We’re doing

Sean P. Holman (35m 6s):

People plug literally

Jim Morrison from Jeep (35m 7s):

Daily and it almost becomes a bit of a video game. Yeah. You know, type thing. It’s like So I wanna see how far you can go without using any gas.

Sean P. Holman (35m 13s):

We’ve got the app that tells So I have it set up in my wife’s car to only charge after nine 30. So that way it is off peak. Yes. Right. So I get a text alert every night at nine 30. Yep. That says your Grand Cherokee has started charging. Well if that doesn’t happen, I know my wife forgot to plug in and it’s gonna be my fault that I didn’t remember to plug it in for her So I go out and plug it in. I mean we literally shouldn’t you do

Jim Morrison from Jeep (35m 38s):

That earlier so he gets to sleep?

Sean P. Holman (35m 40s):

Yeah, she’ll get, she’ll get home at five or six and and not leave the house. So she plugs in when she gets home. Yeah. And it just sits there until nine 30 comes and then it starts charging off peak hours and it’s ready for her in the morning. So I mean, living with a four by E has, has been fantastic. I I, we took a a little bit of a flyer on it for me. My use case didn’t demand four by E but her use case did. And so we decided, well let’s try it, let’s see if this is something that works for our family. And she was filling up gas every six days before in her WK two in her last Grand Cherokee. And now she fills up about once every, let’s say 18 to 22 days. Perfect. And we’re filling up, you know, we’re plugging in the rest of the time and she’ll go to work and be on hybrid modes all, sometimes all electric on days.

Sean P. Holman (36m 24s):

She doesn’t have site visits and things like that. And she’ll be on EV to work and back. ’cause you get 25 miles and her work is about 11 miles away. Oh. She’s Use

Jim Morrison from Jeep (36m 32s):

Case for us in gas mode. Yeah. Perfect.

Sean P. Holman (36m 34s):

So I think that. And then I also wanna bring up on four by E you guys are adding for 24 the the power box. Yes. Which you can plug into the port and then you can run laptops. There’s two 15 amp fuses. So you can have, there’s four, you know, you know, ac style plugs on that. And then you’re also allowing charging to go out as well from the battery to like run your house like a generator, things like that. Or a campsite or or whatnot.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (36m 60s):

Yeah. That’s the neat thing is you can plug it in and just run the battery and battery to, to plug and run your campsite. Or like we did today in the middle of,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (37m 8s):

Do any of these outputs have two 20? Do you know?

Sean P. Holman (37m 11s):

I think they’re all one 10. One 10. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. It’s just that it’s a little box that plugs into the charging port and it converts outbound power so you can do your laptop. They ran a TV at the, this, we were kind of remote in this little, you know, area around the rocks and they were running the TVs and the computer’s off of it. A four by eight park there, which is pretty cool. I wonder

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (37m 31s):

How long you could run like a tv, could you get through an entire like NFL

Sean P. Holman (37m 34s):

Game? Oh? yeah. Easy. Okay.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (37m 35s):

Yeah. That’s the neat thing is you can plug it in and just run the battery and battery to, to plug and run your campsite or like we did today in the middle of the field, run a great big gigantic tv. Yep. Or if you’re in an emergency and the power went down in your neighborhood, you can plug in your, plug it into your house and, and save your refrigerators Yep. And all that kind of good stuff. And just run off the gas for as long as you need it to. So it’s, it’s, it’s really great technology that we’ve added to, to the four by eight for this year.

Sean P. Holman (38m 2s):

Well, well done on the jail update. It’s always, you know, you’re always a little bit nervous when the new one comes out and Yeah. Hope that it’s everything the enthusiast wants and you know, as I’ve said before is if you make the card for the enthusiast, everybody else will come because they’re gonna make it cool. Now we know Gladiator shares the same platform. Will there be Gladiator news at some point this year?

Jim Morrison from Jeep (38m 22s):

Yeah, I’ll tell you when it comes. Just, just draw the date. What

Sean P. Holman (38m 27s):

Does the truck show So, I have to ask about the pickup truck.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (38m 29s):

Yeah. And you know, it makes A lot of sense because it’s, you know, valuable question. I think a couple of, a couple times they’ve been spotted out in the, in the real world testing. So

Sean P. Holman (38m 38s):

You have seen a spy photo or two with that new grill on it.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (38m 40s):

Yeah. So it’s, it’s reasonable to expect. But I, I don’t want to tell you here, here’s something that, that we’re doing the cool that includes Wrangler and Gladiator that I can talk about Alright, is we’re doing with our dealers is called the top off test drive. Right? So who else could do a top off test drive? You know, we’ve got all of our dealers across America, you know, lining up their showroom and the front of their dealerships taking the doors and the top off the wranglers and the gladiators inviting people to come in and take a a, a test drive this week with their tops off. So that’s awesome. It’s, it’s A lot of fun. If you haven’t been to your Jeep dealer, sorry, Sam’s saying sounds like a shameless marketing, but it is a little bit. But we’re having some fun with that And that does include Gladiator. But we love Gladiator.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (39m 21s):

We love your talk show High Lightning and hope this was, hope this was good enough audio for you. If it doesn’t, it’s just on, you know, normal for, for Holman to screw it up. Right? Sorry. So sorry. Anyway, love your guys’ show. I hate that. Actually I’m gonna be on the show again ’cause that means I can’t listen to it. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (39m 37s):

Jim skips all the episodes he’s on.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (39m 39s):

I can’t stand listening to myself, but love you guys. I sure you,

Sean P. Holman (39m 42s):

You did a good job. So

Jim Morrison from Jeep (39m 43s):

Love you guys. Love your new hotel in the back of the yard with their, get the pod Shed going with the new, the pod shed. That’s, that’s awesome. But more importantly, I love how you educate the, the consumers out there and, and I like how you guys know more about this business than anybody, so keep sharing that good word with, with the real world and, and really appreciate everything you guys do.

Sean P. Holman (40m 5s):

As always, I appreciate your time and look forward to more Jeep adventures soon.

Jim Morrison from Jeep (40m 11s):

Good stuff. Thank you.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (40m 13s):

Dang. Jim

Sean P. Holman (40m 14s):

Morrison, little shout out from Jim Morrison, head of Jeep North America. So he actually does listen to the show and give, you know, little, little ribbing toward me for Lightning. So there you go.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (40m 26s):

Well that was super cool. Thank you Jim for sharing the 24 Wrangler with Mr. Holman. And apparently there’s some embargoed content that we hope to hear at some point soon

Jim Morrison from Jeep (40m 38s):


Sean P. Holman (40m 38s):

Yeah, I think it’s safe to say the gladiator news is coming. I think it’ll be similar to, to what you heard here, four

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (40m 46s):

By Shmi.

Sean P. Holman (40m 48s):

I would just say gladiator info’s coming. And I would also say that if you want a Diesel, you buy it now. Oh no. So So I would, I would say, now is your chance. Oh no. Like literally now

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (40m 60s):

Do it. No. So what you’re saying is sell all the Banks dinger tuners for the EcoDiesel yesterday.

Sean P. Holman (41m 6s):

Yeah. If you’re listening to this right now and you’re on the fence, obviously Wrangler production stopped EcoDiesel in January, I believe there’s still some on dealer lots and they’re still making gladiator for 23. But I would caution you to go by that 23 if that’s the drive train that you covet also. 3 9 2, if that’s the drive train you covet in a Wrangler, you should also, oh

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (41m 34s):


Sean P. Holman (41m 34s):

Lord. Another year of that. Really another

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (41m 36s):

Year of that So I could post this on social that say buy your gladiator soon I with a ggl, with a, with ANCO Diesel because it’s, it’s coming to a Nope.

Sean P. Holman (41m 48s):

I would not say that the

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (41m 49s):

Candle is about to be snuffed.

Sean P. Holman (41m 50s):

No, I would not say that. I would just say that reading the tea leaves, we think that you should probably buy that vehicle if that’s what you want.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (41m 59s):

I think what we’re saying is the same thing. I’m

Sean P. Holman (42m 1s):

Yeah, but you’re making it sound like you have definitive information, which sounds like it came from me, which is not the point I’m making here. I

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (42m 8s):

I’m not even with Holman. I don’t know who Holman is, nor do I do a podcast with him. Yeah, I

Sean P. Holman (42m 13s):

Heard Nope.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (42m 14s):

From the tea leaves, whatever those are. Listen

Sean P. Holman (42m 17s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (42m 17s):

That the eco Diesel is being discontinued in the gladiator.

Sean P. Holman (42m 21s):

That’s not what I said. That’s not what I said at all.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (42m 23s):

Jim Morrison told me on the phone last night, no, stop,

Sean P. Holman (42m 26s):

Don’t disrespect our guests like that. What

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (42m 28s):

Is kidding? What is wrong with you? I’m kidding. Come on now, Jim.

Sean P. Holman (42m 31s):

What is wrong with you? See Jim, this is why we, we don’t do

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (42m 34s):

Interviews. You can’t have nice things with Lightning lighting. Exactly.

Sean P. Holman (42m 36s):

Exactly. I listen, I’m not telling you that. I know for sure, but I’m not stupid either. Listen,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (42m 42s):

We’ve been talking about for two years.

Sean P. Holman (42m 43s):

I’m just saying. I mean we

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (42m 44s):

Knew that the EcoDiesel wasn’t gonna last in the gladiator forever, especially when they canceled the jail. Like why would they continue get the gladiator? It didn’t make any sense.

Sean P. Holman (42m 52s):

I’m just saying if you like it, it’s available now. Go get one. Take

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (42m 56s):

Advantage of it. That’s take

Sean P. Holman (42m 57s):

Advantage of it.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (42m 57s):

It’s a great freaking engine.

Sean P. Holman (42m 58s):

The opportunity, it presents itself now.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (43m 1s):

I’ve never met anyone with a Wrangler or gladiator with an EcoDiesel that hasn’t loved it. Yep,

Sean P. Holman (43m 8s):

That is, that is in fact, I was

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (43m 10s):

Surrounded by 50 or more of ’em at Brewery X in Anaheim just two weeks ago.

Sean P. Holman (43m 14s):

See? There

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (43m 15s):

You go. I’m saying All right, do we have some truck news? We do. All right.

7 (43m 19s):

What’s new in trucks? We need

8 (43m 20s):

To know

7 (43m 22s):

What’s new in trucks.

8 (43m 23s):

We need to know

7 (43m 25s):

What’s new in trucks.

8 (43m 26s):

We need to know

5 (43m 28s):

Lifted, lowered and everything in between. What’s happening in the world of trucks.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (43m 34s):


Sean P. Holman (43m 36s):

The linger was nice.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (43m 36s):

Yeah, that was neat. Hey

Sean P. Holman (43m 37s):

Lighting, did you hear? How about

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (43m 39s):

No. Nope.

Sean P. Holman (43m 41s):

You did not hear. I don’t think so. The 2024 Ford F-150 Raptor R was caught again. I know we just talked about it a couple episodes ago and we said, oh it’s got a new grill. What does that mean? But it also appears to have other bits. Not only does it have a refreshed grill, which will tie into the upcoming F-150 freshening that’s on the way. It’s got a new Wheel package on it. It’s got some new graphics on it. It’s got new taillights on it. But most importantly is if you peek into the Wheel, well it would appear that the Fox live valve shocks now have two solenoids. And we were just talking about how the TRX is a vehicle that has damping that’s adjustable on both the compression rebound circuit while the F-150.

Sean P. Holman (44m 30s):

I thought the Raptor R should have had a shock upgrade, which it did not get over the standard raptor And that it should have also had rebound DAMing. And now it appears that the 2024 Raptor R may be getting that, that exact upgrade. Does it

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (44m 47s):

Have a, when you say solenoid, does it have a block attached to No. Okay.

Sean P. Holman (44m 51s):

It’s got a solenoid attached to where the live valve one is currently it has one right on top of it. So I’m assuming that that’s what that is. I, I don’t know, but it looks like it is getting a, a suspension technology update that is more in line with the powertrain that’s being offered in that ve that vehicle. And I have no idea if it’s gonna be seen offered on lesser raptors because I haven’t seen spy photos of lesser raptors. But to me it’s, it would appear that the suspension is befitting the powertrain.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (45m 22s):

Oh, that’s, that’s exciting. I think.

Sean P. Holman (45m 24s):

Hey lighting, did you hear?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (45m 26s):

No. Nope.

Sean P. Holman (45m 27s):

Alright, so the Ram rampage, which is the little Brazilian unibody ram that’s kinda like Ford Maverick size that we’ve been talking about lately. More information continues to come out and rumors still keep persisting that it’ll be sold here in the US

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (45m 44s):

So that would be awesome because they have the best taillights I’ve ever seen with the American flag baked right in. Well

Sean P. Holman (45m 49s):

The, the rebel version of it does now. So we get a, a new look at some fresh trims, the RT and the Laramie and we find out a little bit more about its sizes. So the RAM rampage is about 198 inches in length, 70 inches in height and 72 inches wide. It’s in the same ballpark as we just said, of the maverick, which is 200 inches long and 68 inches tall. It looks just like a current Ram 1500 dt at least in the front. So they’re definitely going after the American styling, which is another clue that’s probably coming here in addition to the, the, the American flag taillights that Lightning likes. And it sounds like there’s getting a, a whole bunch of different drive trains down there. There’s gonna be the two liter turbo Diesel with 168 horsepower, 279 pound feet of torque.

Sean P. Holman (46m 32s):

Guessing it’ll be a front 26, 30 miles per gallon, something like that. But it’s probably also gonna be zero to 60 in A. lot of seconds. So, but one of the things that we like is there’s the two liter turbocharged gas engine, which is the global medium engine or the hurricane forest cylinder, which is familiar to us here in the, in the Jeeps, in the Grand Cherokee. The four by E’s, the Wrangler non plugin hybrid that ups the output to 268 horsepower, 294 pound feet of torque. And we’ll still deliver a fuel economy somewhere in the low twenties and shaves the zero to 62 time. ’cause we’re talking about kilometers a hundred, right? Zero to a hundred by four full seconds over the Diesel.

Sean P. Holman (47m 14s):

Four. Four four. So I’m guessing that that’s actually going to be the engine that we get here. But when you look at the interior,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (47m 22s):

Americans will not put up with, what was the first one? 168 horsepower?

Sean P. Holman (47m 26s):

No, that’s not bad. I mean, it’s not a big vehicle.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (47m 28s):

I mean that’s a Honda Civic from the eighties, you know what I’m saying?

Sean P. Holman (47m 30s):

No. A Honda Civic from the eighties with 98

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (47m 32s):

Horsepower. So. I. I’m just saying like, that’s just not Okay. Well, what’s Maverick? What’s Maverick? Horsepower

Sean P. Holman (47m 38s):

Two 50 for the non-hybrid. And the hybrid is somewhere around 200 maybe. But I,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (47m 43s):

I, again, anything, hundred 200 horsepower. No bueno in America. Uhuh, I don’t know about

Sean P. Holman (47m 48s):

That. Nah, nah, it depends on the weight.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (47m 50s):

They’re still heavy, even though for a mid-size truck, it’s still heavy. This is not good. It won’t get out of its own way. And especially, you gotta tow anything. All

Sean P. Holman (47m 57s):

Right. So I put up on the screen for Lightning to see the interior, which is Oh, pretty darn nice. For a little pickup.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (48m 2s):

Wow. That is great. I love the landscape screen. That’s an attractive little truck.

Sean P. Holman (48m 8s):

So the Diesel has a payload of 2,237 pounds. That’s right. 2237 payload on a unibody little truck.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (48m 20s):

No way. Yeah, no way. You gotta

Sean P. Holman (48m 22s):

Remember those are their way half tons down there.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (48m 24s):

No, no, no. Not even possible. The gas model,

Sean P. Holman (48m 27s):


9 (48m 27s):

Not wrong. You just, maybe less than Right.

Sean P. Holman (48m 32s):

The gas models are 1,653, which is still more than,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (48m 35s):

What’d you say the payload was again?

Sean P. Holman (48m 37s):

2237 or 1015 kilograms. Nope, that

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (48m 41s):

Ain’t true.

10 (48m 41s):

Nope, that’s not true. So get your facts

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (48m 47s):

Straight. That’s right.

Sean P. Holman (48m 48s):

All right. So the gas again, is 750 kilograms, which is 1653. And tow rating on other vehicles on that chassis are 2000 pounds. But I would expect this to be more than that on the rampage. And all the rampage are standard. All Wheel drive with the nine speed transmission. So anyway, here’s a couple more photos of the different trims. The rt,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (49m 11s):

It looks a little plasticky, I’m not gonna lie. It’s a cheap truck, dude. But it’s great. It’s, it’s right there. Two

Sean P. Holman (49m 17s):

Seconds ago, you just saw it and you went, whoa, that

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (49m 19s):

Looks great. No. Whoa. You just did a zoom in. You just did a zoom in at a, I see a closeup. But look, dude,

Sean P. Holman (49m 25s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (49m 25s):

Would, that is a, I would, yeah, I would buy that. I know that’s

Sean P. Holman (49m 27s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (49m 28s):


Sean P. Holman (49m 28s):

Great. I don’t

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (49m 29s):

Know. I just say it’s a little plastic, you know what I mean? It’s not $70,000. It’s all gravy. What, dude, IM into it. What do you expect it to be? Yeah, I, I, I’m okay. I just, I can love something that I don’t love. That’s weird. Let me, let me rephrase.

Sean P. Holman (49m 39s):

It doesn’t make any sense at

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (49m 40s):

All. Sometimes I’m okay if it’s not top line, you know, so I’m like, oh, it’s never, but I agree

Sean P. Holman (49m 45s):

With that. Are you

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (49m 45s):

Okay? No, but I, I could, like, I love, at first we hated the Maverick, then we came around. Now we liked Maverick. I didn’t hate the Maverick. Well, I

Sean P. Holman (49m 52s):

Wanted to hate the Maverick and I could, but just couldn’t bring myself.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (49m 54s):

I love to hate. So then I was there with you, and then we came around on the Maverick. We began to love it.

Sean P. Holman (49m 58s):

I can’t hate this either. I think

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (50m 0s):

I cannot hate that.

Sean P. Holman (50m 1s):

Yeah. I mean, there you go. There’s the rear view with the little American flag, you know, icon in detail. That’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (50m 7s):

A good looking truck. It’s a great truck. I do not like the fact that at least this one,

Sean P. Holman (50m 11s):

It’s not a truck, it’s a sport utility truck. It’s like, thank you. It’s a maverick and a Santa Cruz, blah, blah, blah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (50m 16s):

That’s Exactly. right? So it’s chocolate. So listen, but it still, I love with the, the, the color matched fender flares. Yep. That is a good look. But when, when you scroll down and they have the, like the worst thing they did with the Subaru WRX, the new one, and they made like black fender, because

Sean P. Holman (50m 32s):

That’s the S Flanders. That’s how all the vehicles are.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (50m 34s):

Stop it. Color match those suckers. My, my father who’s like 80 color matched the fender flares. Okay. On his Bronchos sport. So much better. Yeah,

Sean P. Holman (50m 43s):

But you go off-roading, you don’t want color matched fender.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (50m 45s):

I get that. But Well, maybe

Sean P. Holman (50m 47s):

You do. No you don’t because they’re gonna get chewed up.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (50m 49s):

I know. And that’s why they do. Have you seen my

Sean P. Holman (50m 50s):

Wrangler from off-roading?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (50m 51s):

Like they have chewed up.

Sean P. Holman (50m 51s):

Yeah, you gotta have the plastic there.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (50m 53s):


Sean P. Holman (50m 54s):

And then some guy named lightings go. Oh right. Super functional. But it’s really plasticy. Yeah. Yeah. It’s supposed to be. I know

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 0s):

I love street trucks, but I want to take ’em Offroad. They don’t jive.

Sean P. Holman (51m 4s):

Did you hear?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 5s):

No, but nope. Can I just have it all Holman?

Sean P. Holman (51m 9s):

No. Do you know, you know what the saying is? You can have anything you want. You just can’t have everything you want.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 17s):

Yeah, yeah. Sadly,

Sean P. Holman (51m 19s):

Rumor has it that a Ford Maverick that is focused on street performance might be in store for Maverick buyers from Ford. And so Ford had some performance mavericks at sema, I guess a couple years ago. And the rumors have persisted that there’s gonna be a sporty version coming from the factory.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 41s):

That would be smart.

Sean P. Holman (51m 42s):

It may be an ST version. I know that’s kind of Ford’s, you know, step up performance line. But St. Maverick could be kind of cool, lowered with some decent wheels and tires and maybe the two three Eco-boost, which makes 270 horsepower and 310 pound feet of torque. That’s in the Ranger that might drop in. But in the focus Rs, that engine made 345 horsepower once. So that engine once made a 345 horsepower in the Euro market. Focus Rs. So there’s room, I don’t know that it would make it here, but could you imagine a maverick with 300 horsepower all Wheel drive, slam Wheel Tire package?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (52m 19s):

You don’t have to ask me twice.

Sean P. Holman (52m 21s):

I mean, that could be really freaking cool. So bagged

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (52m 25s):

On the ground.

Sean P. Holman (52m 25s):

I’m just saying people are still talking and they’ve been talking for a while and it hasn’t gone away. So for all of you folks out there who are like, you know what, little Maverick with some balls could be cool. I’m telling you. But don’t give up hope. Hey, lighting, did you hear?

11 (52m 41s):

No. No.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (52m 44s):

Nope. I don’t think so. All

Sean P. Holman (52m 45s):

Right. So Ford has announced that they are going to take on Dakar this January with Ranger. I don’t think it’ll be anything that you would expect in the production world. It’s certainly not gonna be off the shelf Ranger Raptor. Like what Brad level just won with down in Australia. But

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (53m 2s):

Is that the truck that’s that’s bad

Sean P. Holman (53m 3s):

Ass. Well that’s, that’s the American version of the truck. Okay. So he was, I think it was an Australian version. Anyway, it doesn’t matter. He just won down in Australia. So the last show or two shows ago, and we talked about it, I said I was gonna reach out to Brad ’cause I know him. I’m like, Hey So, I hit him up. I said, dude, when you return from the Outback, wanna come on the podcast and talk about your racing and the Ranger Raptor?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (53m 21s):

Let me guess. He said F

Sean P. Holman (53m 22s):

Off. He responds. Yeah, we’ll do I get back at the end of the month? Let’s do it. Oh great. Yeah. So we’re gonna have Brad level, who is a damn fine truck Offroad race driver, come on the show. Outstanding. That’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (53m 34s):

Pretty cool, right? Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (53m 35s):

We’ll connect with him at the, at the end of the month and see if we can’t get you guys some content from what it was like to race a production vehicle down in Australia.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (53m 43s):

Speaking of Offroad racing and trophy trucks, our friend Banana Ron text me, he said, Hey, do you know who I can call to go for a ride in a trophy truck? It’s on my bucket list. He’s just checking stuff off his bucket list now. He told me, he told me, Hey, if you and Holman wanna bring your wives down and go in the hot air balloon that I’m gonna jump out of, he says, it’s 180 bucks. I’ve got two spots or a couple of spots

Sean P. Holman (54m 9s):

For you that go, that’s a weird proposition.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (54m 12s):

And I said, I don’t know if I’m comfortable seeing you die. Yeah. But he also said, can you, in the same thread, he says, can you hook me up with someone with a trophy truck? ’cause it’s on my bucket list. Oh.

Sean P. Holman (54m 22s):

Yeah, that’s a hard one. It took me 25 5 years to get into a trophy truck.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (54m 26s):

I know, but you’re also not a YouTuber. So maybe it would be good for like, you know, an AR or something like that. Right. I don’t

Sean P. Holman (54m 32s):

Know. And we still have to play that audio, but we had some audio issues and I gotta, I gotta, I basically have to fix the audio and I haven’t had time

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (54m 39s):

Together. I don’t know that it can be fixed. I’ve heard it. It’s

Sean P. Holman (54m 41s):

Awful. You have not heard it. Yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (54m 43s):

You played it. It was on your phone or something. No, no, no, no.

Sean P. Holman (54m 45s):

You have not. No. You’ve never heard that audio? Hmm. No. Ever. I’m

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (54m 48s):

Interested. How bad can it be?

Sean P. Holman (54m 50s):

No, it’s not. It’s not bad. There’s a chunk of it because the recorder was starting and stopping every 10 seconds. So there’s 70,000 files that I have to string together. Oh, one coherent thing. Oh dear God. Yeah. And that’s the only reason we haven’t done,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (55m 5s):

It’s gonna be full of clicks and pops.

Sean P. Holman (55m 7s):

No, it’s, it seems okay. It’s just, anyway, the recorder completely had a meltdown when I was interviewing Ryan, but halfway through the interview I started record ’em on my phone too. So. I have the back half of the interview. So I. I just, it’s a matter of sitting down.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (55m 22s):

I hope you don’t think Mr. Lightning is going to edit that

Sean P. Holman (55m 25s):

Together. It’s been six months. Have I asked you once for that?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (55m 27s):

I’m dodging that bullet.

Sean P. Holman (55m 29s):

Yeah, we’ll, we’ll see. All right.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (55m 31s):

Hey Holman, have you heard

Sean P. Holman (55m 33s):

Oh? yeah, probably

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (55m 34s):

That 2016 Toyota Tacoma. TRD off road double cab four by four with the 6.2 lss. Eight V eight swap.

Sean P. Holman (55m 40s):

Yeah. Is it finally sold? It

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (55m 42s):

Sold. Yeah. And I wanted you to guess, how much do you think it went for?

Sean P. Holman (55m 44s):

29 9.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (55m 47s):

That’s freaking close. Yeah. 27 5. Oh

Sean P. Holman (55m 50s):

Price is right. Rules I lose though, dude.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (55m 52s):

Only 26 bids.

Sean P. Holman (55m 54s):

You know what’s funny? Is that truck like, what’s up with that? If that truck was stock, it would’ve sold for 35.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (55m 58s):

I think you’re right.

Sean P. Holman (55m 59s):

All day long.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (56m 0s):

So I know this is not truck related, but I have to talk about this. Oh geez. Because it broke the internet this last week. There’s a 2008. Were you twerking again? Was I twerking?

Sean P. Holman (56m 10s):

I’m just wondering. No.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (56m 11s):

Okay. No one wants to see me twerk.

Sean P. Holman (56m 13s):

That’s why I was wondering if that’s why the internet broke.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (56m 15s):

No, the only thing that would break would be the chair I’m leaning on as I twerked a 2008 Volkswagen, R 32 Rocco conversion was up on, well it’s still, as I’m reading this, it’s up on cars and bids. It’s since closed. It’s got a 565 horsepower engine in it. All the Volkswagen geeks are going bonkers. HPE dropped the whole conversion kit in it and it’s for sale. And as of the time I’m reading this to you, the bid is already at $55,000.

Sean P. Holman (56m 49s):

I mean, that’s two of those Tacomas almost.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (56m 52s):

That’s nuts. 27 bids. As of the time I’m reading this, $55,000, 20. It’s gonna, this is going to be, what

Sean P. Holman (57m 0s):

Is it again?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (57m 1s):

This is a 2008 Volkswagen, R 32 Rocco. Do you recall that? Rocco’s were so huge

Sean P. Holman (57m 8s):

In the, the States. They were the thing to have man,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (57m 9s):

Holy macro. And then they disappeared.

Sean P. Holman (57m 11s):

I had a friend in high school who had a

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (57m 12s):

Rocco and So I. Guess I didn’t even know until this

Sean P. Holman (57m 13s):

Now. And then the Rado VR six came out, which was bad ass because I had the VR six and the little wing that came up. So like

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (57m 18s):

The people lust after young people love lust after the R 30 twos. This is the R 32 in a Rocco. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (57m 23s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (57m 23s):

Pretty cool. And yeah, I’d be curious to see what it finally goes for

Sean P. Holman (57m 27s):

A lot.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (57m 29s):

And that’s your Volkswagen Rocco talk.

4 (57m 32s):

You email? Yeah, I email. Do it. We email. That’s right. Everybody email. Type it up. You email proofread. I email send it. We email. Click it. Everybody email.

Sean P. Holman (57m 54s):

Alright. Pull your gaze up to the studio TV here. Got this one from Cameron Street. And he says, good Day Coleman and Light Force, which is neither of our names, but he did put Coleman before Light Force. So

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (58m 7s):

Coleman and Light Force,

Sean P. Holman (58m 9s):

Sorry for the long one. Incoming Cameron here from Brisbane, Australia. So should I do an Australian voice?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (58m 15s):

You should do an Australian voice. But I gotta let people know. Strap in. This is a long one.

Sean P. Holman (58m 20s):

It’s not a knife, it’s a knife.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (58m 22s):

That’s it.

Sean P. Holman (58m 23s):

That’s it. That’s all I can do about them. Tackle berries. he says, been a longtime listener with the odd Instagram comment and message. He is pube face on Instagram, which you’ll recall. Cube face. Yeah, he’s, I see him lurking around all the time. Okay. he says, oh, I think, oh, I discovered you guys around episode 50. Backtracked and caught up pretty quickly.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (58m 45s):

You hate when I do these kind of accents. Don’t.

Sean P. Holman (58m 47s):

Mine’s bad too. But it’s still funny. Back when I used to be a sandblaster. So thanks for keeping me amused during those am mind numbing days. he says, I now spray paint. What

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (58m 56s):

Is that? What is that a euphemism sandblaster?

Sean P. Holman (58m 58s):

No, I don’t think so. Okay. Although Australians do have funny senses of humor. You know, I have a, A natural, a fascination. Yes. Love for Australians. Yes. Never met a Ossie I did in that fall in love with immediately. They are so awesome. Everything about ’em, they just, they headbutt Sheilas and they, they guzzle beer and they’ve punched kangaroos in the face and I just love everything about it. If I could go somewhere else, they

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (59m 20s):

All punch

Sean P. Holman (59m 20s):

Kangaroos in the the face. I’ve seen the videos on YouTube. If I had one. Is that a rite of passage? Listen, if there’s one place I would go in this world, if I had to leave, it would be Australia. That’s where you would live. They wouldn’t take me, but I would go there. Their immigration’s tough. I don’t know if I would make it. Anyway, so he says, I now spray paint Toyota Land Cruisers. They get the rear section cut off and turned into dual Cab Ute with chassis extensions to suit GVM upgrades. I have attached images along with other images. Attached are my last few four by fours, which were my D 22 Navarra with a small lift and muddies love that muddies nothing special. My GU four Nissan patrol, the straight six turbo Diesel called a TD 42. Also known as a kettle here as they always overheated.

Sean P. Holman (1h 0m 2s):

I love that. And I also converted it to autos. They never came in auto. So my wife could drive it on the days I wanted more than a couple beers. Smart man. See, I told you they drink A, lot of beer. It’s great. Guzzle. After that was my holding Colorado with the trustee four jj one motor, which was tuned to 200 horsepower, which is nothing. When some guy’s up here in Thailand get them above 500, pretty reasonable for a four cylinder Diesel. It had the usual red a gear and Dometic fridge and the alloy canopy mostly set up for beach driving and camping. And lastly was my 1 0 5 series solid axle Land cruiser. by the way, I love a hundred series from Australia because in the freaking United States, our Land Cruiser a hundred series had IFS and they still freaking made ’em with solid axle the way God intended in the world.

Sean P. Holman (1h 0m 48s):

Down under, dammit. So that’s for you. Pew face.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 0m 53s):

You gotta break that freaking low dude. Relax on that.

Sean P. Holman (1h 0m 55s):

You and your 1 0 5 with your solid axle. It’s so awesome. Anyway, with the petrol, straight six motor, just had a basic dual battery set to run my fridge. But very Offroad capable. All have been long sold to fund the usual, buying a house dream, but now in the market again. So can’t wait. On the next one and to the title of this email is my friend’s NP 300. Navarra. Take it through the window of his house as it is a thousand bucks and a 4.5. If you touch your phone in the car while driving here, So, I. Guess he’s saying no, no photos while driving. Gotcha. So I. Don’t know if that’s if we allow for international circumvention of the rules or not, but we’ll, we’ll have to discuss. I

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 1m 30s):

Will. Yeah. I want our stickers. All right. In Australia,

Sean P. Holman (1h 1m 34s):

Australia, of course, he says it’s set up with an alloy Smartcap canopy with a rooftop 10. And all the other usual mods like dual battery, a hundred liter fridge recovery gear, compressor, lift bulb, bar winch. And just like most of the guys you talked to, I’ve also owned a few mini trucks. And one day I like to build one up again. So hopefully I can snag a couple of those mysterious stickers and perhaps some Banks ones for my toolbox. Until next time. Oh, gm? Yeah buddy. And five stars.

12 (1h 1m 59s):

Yeah buddy. Five star review, five stars.

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 4s):

Oh, I love me some Australians. Lightning. Yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 7s):

I can tell

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 8s):

I love him a lot.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 9s):

So he’s got a couple of photos of the trucks on the beach, which is super cool. We don’t get to do that here. So where he’s,

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 15s):

That’s not true.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 16s):

Well, I guess our place like, yeah. Pismo, Oregon, Florida, I suppose. Florida. Florida.

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 20s):

So check this out. Look at that Land Cruiser, the back half cutoff and a basically ready for a tray bed to make like a crew cab. Land cruiser. Pretty

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 29s):

Cool. It looks weird. It does

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 30s):

Look weird,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 31s):

But it’s still weird. It’s still rad. It’s just hopped off. That looks, it looks like it’s Photoshop.

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 34s):

Look at the Navarra. Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 36s):

That’s cool. Yeah, I like that. That’s a nice look right there with a snorkel on it. All

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 40s):

Of it. Look at that. Look at, that’s the hold in Colorado right there.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 43s):

Yeah, that’s a good look

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 44s):

Right there. Look. A hundred series with a, with the solid front axle. These

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 48s):

Are just, why do they, why do they look Australian?

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 50s):

It look, it looks like they have, because Australian laws don’t let you lift. What’s up with the

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 54s):


Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 54s):

Doesn’t that look like a GM heavy duty after aftermarket mirror,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 57s):

Right? It’s, it is. That’s gotta be, yeah, that’s a GM mirror. It has to be.

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 60s):

Right. There you go. There you go. There’s the, the newer Navarro right there. There

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 3m 3s):

It is. All right’s. Cool. Yeah, I’ll send you some stickers. We cool.

Sean P. Holman (1h 3m 5s):

He is worth it. That’s cool. Oh he, he filled up the, the inbox with goodness.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 3m 9s):

What’s his name again? Well,

Sean P. Holman (1h 3m 10s):

Lightning. He goes by Pube face on Instagram, but his real name’s Cameron Street. Great,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 3m 16s):

Thank you. Cameron. Stickers will be there in about six weeks.

Sean P. Holman (1h 3m 19s):

And sorry for torching your accent We’re ugly Americans. We know

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 3m 25s):

This one’s from Blake Pritchet. He emails Lightning at truck Show Podcast dot com. Yo Lightning, I figured I’d tell you about my code brown story.

Sean P. Holman (1h 3m 34s):

No, not another one. Yes. Okay.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 3m 36s):

As background, I had just finished working at a site in West Texas and I was hungry. So I went to the closest town, the town, quote unquote was called Orla. And they have two gas stations. So I got a slice of gas station Pizza. That’s how

Sean P. Holman (1h 3m 50s):

It always starts. I then

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 3m 51s):

Started my three hour drive back home and I’m about 30 minutes in and my stomach starts making an awful gargling noise.

Sean P. Holman (1h 4m 0s):

You can cross check this with Ken Brubaker. He and I were driving across Montana. Once I also got gas station Pizza, I took two bites, realized it was death. And at about 60 miles an hour, I threw it out the window like a Frisbee. And we watched it sail into a rancher’s field like 50 yards. And I went, well that’s a good idea because I can’t imagine that Pizza that would fly 50 yards would be good for your insides. It’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 4m 25s):

Like a Frisbee. I’ve then noticed I’m in the desert of New Mexico. So I had to use the space between an open door and the floorboard as a seat. Oh. So thankfully I made it to a makeshift bathroom. Needless to say, I haven’t ate the gas station Pizza since, and I don’t see myself doing that ever again. Five stars and matter those parameters.

12 (1h 4m 47s):

Five star review, five star

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 4m 50s):


13 (1h 4m 51s):

Monitor, key engine parameters.

Sean P. Holman (1h 4m 54s):

So what you’re saying is he learned his lesson unlike us. Yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 4m 58s):

He did.

Sean P. Holman (1h 4m 58s):

Alright. Got this one from Jonathan Albrecht says Faster than Lightning.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 5m 4s):


Sean P. Holman (1h 5m 5s):

Just finished listening to the discussion on the Silverado on forties going 137 miles an hour. The stock five three, that was a, was that a email we

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 5m 13s):

Read? No, no. That was me interviewing a guy at Oh, that’s Florida truck meet. That’s right. Remember the big lift truck with a five three? And we kept saying that’s there’s no way that’s possible. There’s

Sean P. Holman (1h 5m 22s):

All right. So this is Jonathan’s story. He goes, I’ve got a true story. 25 years ago, me and two buddies drove nonstop from North Idaho to Phoenix by way of Moab, Utah, 19 87, 4 runner with a seven inch lift, 22 re stock gears running 30 inch road trip tires and packed to the roof with three disassembled bikes, camping gear and supplies for the week after midnight stop four quote unquote dinner. It was my friend’s turn to drive while I slept in the passenger seat. I remembered as I drifted off to sleep, the crazed look on my buddy’s face, his engorged forehead vein and thinking he sure had A. lot of ice tea. Somewhere out in the middle of the desert at 2:00 AM I wake up to my friend swatting at me. Crazed, look still there. Forehead vein still raised. The forerunner is shaking and screaming near red light and forth.

Sean P. Holman (1h 6m 3s):

I see the Speedo needle buried 105 hundred 10 almost touching the trip reset button. In any case, pretty sure we were going down a very, very long, very steep grade out in BFEI think. Oh well that’s nice. Okay. Back to sleep. Next day. My friend was all excited that we went over a hundred miles an hour in a Toyota. I had no idea what he was talking about until a few days later. I just suddenly remembered that it happened. I suppose improbable speeds are possible in the right situations or maybe it was just a dream. Jonathan, you,

14 (1h 6m 31s):

You’re a lying sack of shit.

Sean P. Holman (1h 6m 33s):

Yeah, I mean, didn’t happen.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 6m 35s):


Sean P. Holman (1h 6m 35s):

I can see that downhill.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 6m 37s):

Yeah. Yeah. but that, that, that probably did happen.

Sean P. Holman (1h 6m 39s):

At least he said it was a hundred and not 137.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 6m 42s):

No, my guy was, the one I interviewed was totally smoking crack Yeah’s. No way. Yeah, there’s no way that that happened. Yeah. This is from Caleb. he says, Hey, my name is Caleb and this is my local engine plant. Just thought I’d share it with you. And it’s a closeup of a few people all wearing suits. Half moon around an engine. And the caption is, congratulations Cummins incorporated for the 5000000th engine produced at the Rocky Mountain Engine plant. Here’s the 5 million more. That is freaking awesome. Yeah, I, Holman has been lucky enough to tour the Cummins engine plant. I hope to do so someday. I

Sean P. Holman (1h 7m 20s):

Went to the one out in Columbus, Indiana in the, the home of Cummins. And I’ve also been, I’ve been to a couple different plants. It’s fascinating. We should have Steve from Cummins back on. It’s been forever.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 7m 29s):

It has been forever. So I was very fortunate. Last summer I went to the ax plant in more Ohio and actually the new Brookville plant that we, we talked about in the last episode. It was amazing. And I would I I, if we ever have the opportunity to go tour another plant, dude, we have that one guy at the Ford plant where they build super duties. One of our listeners build super duties,

Sean P. Holman (1h 7m 50s):

Bro. Yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 7m 50s):

I reach out please.

Sean P. Holman (1h 7m 52s):

That’s Matt. Yeah, Matt. Okay. Hoffman. Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 7m 54s):

Matt, please. Hello. This guy raising his hand and Im,

Sean P. Holman (1h 7m 57s):

I’m sure we have others too.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 7m 58s):

I fly out to, yeah. Oh, fly out to see you.

Sean P. Holman (1h 8m 1s):

Alright, I got this last one here from Garrett Daniels. It says Cummins advice. he says Lightning, whir and whole set. Okay. Getting weird. I was surfing the bank’s website, making my list of upgrades for the 12 valve Cummins I’m putting into a 58 Dodge C 500 service truck. And I couldn’t help but notice that Banks does not seem to sell an exhaust manifold. Did I just miss it on the website? If Banks doesn’t sell an exhaust manifold for the five nine, whose manifold is the best upgrader Should I even worry about it? I’m not trying to go for ridiculous power numbers, but I do plan to be in the 400 to 500 horsepower range with this engine. I was fortunate to find a Cherry 12 valve from a bus that has only 60,000 miles on it and it even has the factory air compressor that I will need to operate the nine speed Eaton that’s going behind the Cummins.

Sean P. Holman (1h 8m 47s):

I’ve attached some picks of the truck as it sits. I plan to put it in service with a welding service bed by the end of summer. Thanks Garrett Daniels owner of RD Fab works out of Crittenden, Kentucky and yeah, that’s a cool looking old truck man. I’d love to see if that thing finished with the welding bed on it. Yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 9m 3s):

That’s gonna be amazing. It’s way cool. So no, you didn’t get that wrong. Actually Banks does not offer, we did back in the day, it’s been discontinued. We don’t have an exhaust manifold for the 12 valve. We do have an intake manifold, which is still a really good seller. It’s called the Twin Ram. It provides really even distribution across all cylinders. So that’s the twin Ram and if you’re interested in, in the hookup, hit at LBC Lightning on the gram and I’ll, I’ll help you out with that. As far as an exhaust manifold, I would reach out to our friends at Fleece performance. That’s Braden and his crew. They’ve got a great Cummins three piece pulse flow exhaust manifold that mounts to a T four turbo flange. So if that sounds like it might work, you can hit up fleece performance.com And the last email comes from Gregory VanderPol.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 9m 50s):

Hey Lightning at Holman. I saw this Nissan Frontier today coming home from Fremont, California. I’m sending it in as part of the hashtag frontier spotting thing. Here’s my address and he lives in Nevada City, California. So I’m gonna send you some stickers. That is a rad Pro four x, it’s got a bed rack, maybe an early lightener rack that that is. That’s, that’s very cool. So thanks for sending that in If. you guys want to contribute to the hashtag Frontier spotting campaign where you get some free stickers from yours. Truly all you gotta do is take a picture of a frontier from inside the cab of your truck and send it to us Lightning at truck Show Podcast dot com or get it to us any way you want. And we will send you stickers as long as you give us your mailing address.

Sean P. Holman (1h 10m 30s):

Alright, so before we end the show, I just wanted to talk about my new ID dash and Pedal Monster setup.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 10m 36s):

Ah and the 3 92 3 2.

Sean P. Holman (1h 10m 38s):

Yeah. Okay. So I know we we’ve, we’ve pimped them on the show. I’ve had an ID dash in the, the old Jeep and I was like, you know, hey Lightning, I wanna do a better job of monitoring my

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 10m 49s):


Sean P. Holman (1h 10m 50s):

My temps and on the Jeep. So I’ve got the 8.4 Uconnect and when you go to off-Road pages or the screen, you have a bunch of temps that go with the five gauges show up there, but it covers up your map or it covers up your, you know, entertainment or whatever. So it’s one screen at a time. So I was trying to look for a way like in my old 20 Jeep that had the supercharger, I was looking for a way to keep my eye on the temperatures and how you know, everything’s doing. ’cause summer’s coming up and I haven’t taken that Jeep off-roading in the desert heat yet. And so that’s one of the ways I’m prepping for summer season. ’cause I’m gonna have to go do some pre-run on the trail is to have a better idea of how hot it’s getting. So I thought the ID dash was gonna be perfect.

Sean P. Holman (1h 11m 32s):

So just so happened that you guys have developed a new stealth pod that’ll be coming out soon. It’s not available yet for the Wrangler that, Ooh,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 11m 40s):

We just got our first set of samples in. So they’re, we’re getting really close Are.

Sean P. Holman (1h 11m 43s):

They good. Well

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 11m 44s):

You had the 3D printed carbon fiber one. Yep. But we’ve got our production samples, which

Sean P. Holman (1h 11m 48s):

Was a perfect fit by the way. They

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 11m 49s):

Look identical to yours, but they’ve got a little more weight. They’re so that carbon fiber is kind of a light material as carbon fiber is. These ones I like ’cause they’re, I don’t wanna call them dense. Well yeah they are. They’re more dense. They feel more solid. Anyway, I’m going off too much about the the mount, but they’re cool.

Sean P. Holman (1h 12m 4s):

So you guys are gonna offer, so on wranglers and gladiators, people use the, the hardware at the top or bottom of the, A pillar handle for you know, mounts and balls and things like that. So my bottom one has a ball but my top mount was open so that was the perfect place for the ID dash. But you’re also gonna make gauge pods for the bottom for people who have stuff on the top. Correct. So you’ll be able to go either way. I like it because it’s right in the line of sight, but it allows you to use your sun visor, which the competing product does not allow you to do. It’s completely out of the way and it’s completely in line to a 52 millimeter gauge. It’s completely in line with the A pillar. So you doesn’t block anything. It’s exactly where you need it.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 12m 39s):

Did you feel like it was always in the corner of your eye? Where did you have to like shift your focus? Was it

Sean P. Holman (1h 12m 45s):

Comfortable? No, it’s exactly where I wanted it to be. Okay, good. It’s a hundred percent exactly where I wanted it to be. So you brought over an ID dash a data Monster, you brought over the new stealth pod, but you also brought over a Pedal Monster and I was like, I don’t need the Pedal Monster. You’re like, you’re just put it on. If you don’t like it, take it off. And so you’re like, most

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 13m 0s):

Of the guys like I have a six four, what do I need it for? You know what I mean?

Sean P. Holman (1h 13m 3s):

But, but it is a little bit lazy and wooden around town. Like you know, you can hit Offroad Plus and it makes it come alive and changes the Pedal algorithm but it also does other things like makes it shift different and makes it more growly and pops and bangs and makes all sorts of cool noises on decel. Which is great. But sometimes I just want the Pedal response and I don’t want all the other attention grabbing things. Oh,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 13m 24s):

So I had never thought about that. When you get the more aggressive Pedal, you get everything else. You

Sean P. Holman (1h 13m 29s):

Get everything else. So. I instantly after installing it, I, I buttoned it up and I went and played around with it and I was like City five. And so there’s three mos. There’s city, there’s there’s we

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 13m 41s):

Call, we call them environments. Oh

Sean P. Holman (1h 13m 42s):

I’m sorry environments. City, city, city sport and city sport and track. Yeah. So I did City five and I was like this is a little bit, you know, spicier and, and I did you know sport five? And I thought well this is awfully aggressive because it’s wanting to bury the entire rear of the Jeep against the rear axle on acceleration. And then I thought, well for giggles I’m gonna do like track eight. And it was completely freaking undrivable and it was like, I was like holy

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 14m 13s):


Sean P. Holman (1h 14m 14s):

So I’m like, well I think I texted you. I’m like, well track’s undrivable. And you’re like yeah we haven’t really found a vehicle other than an eco Diesel that can really take advantage of track.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 14m 22s):

Isn’t that so funny that no it’s, isn’t it wild how vehicles are so different? Like yours track is unusable anyways. Yeah. And in most track is just too aggressive. Yeah, but an EcoDiesel ram, you need it. You

Sean P. Holman (1h 14m 35s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 14m 35s):

To roll in track five to track eight. Ugh. That’s the only way to get rid of that Pedal lag I tell you is just so awful on those

Sean P. Holman (1h 14m 42s):

Trucks. Track eight and a 3 92 wants to do wheelies. I mean it’s just like, like you’re pulling away from a stoplight in regular traffic. You’re go the speed limit on the street’s 35 and you’re like, I’m just gonna accelerate to 35 slowly with this guy next to me. No you’re not. And all of a sudden you’re doing a wheelie in your Jeep going and you’re looking at the sky. So that ended up being a little bit too much. So somewhere around city five or eight has been a nice nice compromise where it’s a little less wooden off the line. A little bit more assertive. I actually didn’t like sport for most driving. Okay. Just because like downshifting was way too aggressive and fast on the freeway. Right. If I’m going, you know, 60, I go to pass somebody I barely tip in and I’m like, you know, and I’m like okay that’s, that’s a So

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 15m 23s):

Are you getting most out of the mid range of the Pedal? ’cause that’s where we spent like Jeff Lee and the guys that you know in engineering, they spent most of their attention developing the maps, the Pedal maps in the midrange of the Pedal the middle third. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (1h 15m 35s):

The, but that’s not where the 3 92 really needs it. The 3 9 2 needs it right

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 15m 39s):

Off idle. Most most cars do though. Most trucks do.

Sean P. Holman (1h 15m 41s):

But I’m saying on 3 9 2 it needs it off. I, it has so much torque once it’s rolling that thing is just on the boil. And so it’s, that’s where the aggressiveness can be too much on that one because I think the mid range from the factory is not bad. But I liked having it bumped up for a little more sporty response off the line. Just so you know, merging or or coming from a stop or rolling, you know, coming up in the light turns green as you’re rolling up to a red and you just dial back into it. It’s a lot more responsive for that stuff. So it makes it a lot more enjoyable. It’s So. I’m still play, I’m still playing with It’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 16m 12s):

Interesting. It’s interesting because you, you wanted the tip in, I want the

Sean P. Holman (1h 16m 15s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 16m 15s):

In right. But A, lot of other vehicles, trucks like, I’ll give you a great example. The older generation Nissan Frontier, it’s all tipping. Yeah, right. So they needed it in the mid-range. Yeah. So the guys are like, well I don’t want any added sensitivity. Early Pedal.

Sean P. Holman (1h 16m 32s):

It’s sensitive off. It’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 16m 33s):

Too sensitive. So they’re like, I can’t use this So I go ah, own contrera my ferre. You go into the menu, which you probably haven’t done yet, you go to, it’s

Sean P. Holman (1h 16m 39s):

In the French four lighting.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 16m 41s):

I have no idea. Just checking. I have no idea. Sounds funny. Contrarian remember

Sean P. Holman (1h 16m 45s):

I have no clue. You probably didn’t even say it right.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 16m 46s):

No, I’m sure I botched

Sean P. Holman (1h 16m 47s):

It. Say that in Australian,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 16m 50s):

Not a chance. So you go into the app and you open up the menu and you go to speed based trim. And if you set it to high Pedal, Monster will not add any sensitivity until you exceed 10 miles per hour. So that’s perfect for the guys that don’t want any sensitivity off the line. And they want it all when they’re rolling and they’re in mid Pedal. It’s also great for sands snow towing, et cetera, where you don’t wanna jerk your trailer every time you’re leaving a stoplight. Right. So you dial up the low speed trim, it prevents Pedal Monster from adding any sensitivity. And then we get to like 17 to 20 miles per hour. It’s rolled it all in and it’s exactly where you want it. You don’t need that. No, but it’s really handy if you’ve got a super duty.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 17m 30s):

Well that, that’s all

Sean P. Holman (1h 17m 30s):

That type thing. Yeah, it’s customizable. But I, I bring it up the, you know, the whole Pedal Monster ID dash thing is because they plug into each other and you can control the Pedal Monster from the ID dash, which is nice. And then different screens. You have what, eight different screens, but there’s, I have one. You got,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 17m 44s):

You got five. Five screens. Five screens

Sean P. Holman (1h 17m 46s):

Five. Five different screens up to eight parameters. Correct. So there’s, on mine I canceled out everything. I have two screens. One is the Pedal Monster screen where I can watch the, the graphs go up and down and do all that. The other one is the one I care about, which is I set eight parameters that I actually care about on the Jeep. So it’s like oil temp engine, coolant temp, trans temp, ambient air, air density, percentage voltage and something else. So try to get all the temps that I could, So I could monitor it a little easier from the driver’s seat. And then I haven’t gone back in there. I know you can customize it with alerts and things like that, right? Yep, yep. And you can make it glow a certain color if it gets bad. So I’m gonna go in and put some numbers in there for alerts just to see.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 18m 30s):

Yeah. So you can set, this is gonna turn in like a big freaking Banks commercial. Sorry about this guy. It’s like, but oh he’s, he Got it and he’s excited about it. Mins and maxes were pretty interesting too. So you can set mins and maxes, it’ll record the highest something ever got and the lowest something you ever got until you decide to go in and reset it. That’s kind of neat too. So it’s not necessarily an alert, but you’re curious what’s the fastest you ever drove? It’ll record it. What’s the highest oil pressure you ever got? It’ll record it. That’s kind of

Sean P. Holman (1h 18m 54s):

Neat. I wanna know what the highest engine temp is or the highest oil temp. It’ll Yep. Especially trans, right? Like that’s something you want to take, take advantage of. So anyway, it’s been, it’s been cool. So I’m, I’m glad to have it. I would highly recommend it. Even if you don’t have a turbo or a supercharger. If you’re like me with normally aspirated engine, it’s been great to have all that data in one place rather than having to constantly scroll through either the screens in your driver information center or on your center stack as most manufacturers allow. You have it in both places. It’s always there. You can dimm it, it’s off to the side, it doesn’t bother me. It’s exactly where I want it. And then I can use my car as I would normally, normally would with the screen So, I wanted for entertainment or navigation or whatever else is going on.

Sean P. Holman (1h 19m 36s):

And so it just gives you that third environment to view parameters.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 19m 43s):

Is this where I plug, should I say if they’re interested in one, hit me up on the ground? Yeah, add LBC Lightning. Do that now. My shameless plug add LBC Lightning on the ground.

4 (1h 19m 53s):

The show. the show. Although

Sean P. Holman (1h 19m 60s):

It turns out if you do a podcast with him, you just text him as he’s on his way over and say, Hey don’t forget my ID dash. You don’t even have to do it on the gram. But if you are looking to get ahold of us on the gram at Sean P, Holman at lbc, Lightning at truck Show Podcast, you can also email us Holman at truck Show Podcast dot com, Lightning at truck Show Podcast dot com or truck Show Podcast at gmail.com and of course the five star hotline. We want to hear from you and send us more. Know your notes. It’s been a while. 6 5 7 2 0 5 61 0 5.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 20m 31s):

Yeah, I want some interesting trucks. Like I don’t necessarily want like big rigs and stuff. I, I want like consumer vehicles, but we’ll take whatever baggers can’t be chooses. Baggers can’t be chusy, I’m just saying. But like if you got an old scout Ben, I’m talking to you. If you’ve got something interesting on your ranch that you haven’t fired up in a long time and you think it’s got a really cool cold start dude record it. Send it to us. I personally prefer when you record it on like on your iPhone at like voice notes, And that, attach that to an email and send it to us. That’s cool ’cause it sounds the best but you can also leave it on the five star hotline. 6 5 7 2 0 5 61 0 5. Send it to us.

Sean P. Holman (1h 21m 9s):

Alright And don’t forget to send us your events. So we’re coming into July now. So July five through nine, it’s the Pacific Northwest four Wheel Drive Associations 34th Annual Trail Jamboree and that’s at Jim Sprick Park. So you can register directly from The Truck Show Podcast event page. So go to truck Show Podcast dot com and hit the events tab. And then also from July 14th through July 16th is the New Jersey Jeep Beach Invasion And, that’s an all ages show at Wildwood. And again, you can hit the registration button and get directly to their website by jumping over to truck Show Podcast dot com again, hit the events drop down and it’ll take you right there and tell us of your upcoming event.

Sean P. Holman (1h 21m 52s):

We can’t believe there’s only two events for trucks in Jeeps in July, so please hit us up. And it doesn’t matter how small it is, if it’s a car and coffee, if it’s recurring, if it’s some epically awesome truck show that we need to know about, shoot us the flyer, the website, the info, and we’ll get it up on truck Show Podcast dot

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 22m 7s):

Com. That’s how most of ’em have ended up on this because they’ve dmd me

Sean P. Holman (1h 22m 12s):

So dmm Lightning or email us. It works. Listen, you know how to get ahold of us. Alright, well let’s, let’s thank Nissan our presenting sponsor, The Truck. Show Podcast is proudly presented by Nissan Trucks. And if you’re looking for a mid-size or half-ton truck, check out the Nissan Frontier or the Nissan Titan or Titan xd. The Titans have the industry’s best five year, 100,000 mile warranty. You can build and price at Nissan usa.com or visit your local dealer. We can check out some of our favorite features such as the Feder Audio System, zero Gravity Seats Spray and Bedliner Utility Track Rail System, Nissan, Titan, and Frontier are packed full of features and all the things that you want as a truck owner. So

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 22m 48s):

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Sean P. Holman (1h 22m 53s):

And of course you, you heard my firsthand impressions of my bank’s I dash and Pedal Monster. So if you’re looking for a great way to figure out all the data that your vehicle’s not telling you in one spot, the ID dash is perfect for that Plugs right into your OBD two. You set it up for your vehicle and it pulls out all sorts of information that’s not generally available to you or it’s the information that is available to you, but you have to dig through a bunch of screens. You can put it right there.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 23m 18s):

There. What even do we even talk about? The fact that you can read and clear trouble codes. All you gotta do is pull over to the side of the road, you got to diagnostics vehicle read and clear, boom, done.

Sean P. Holman (1h 23m 27s):

And also a perfect compliment to the i dash is the Pedal Monster. So you’re looking at a patented Pedal Monster with the active safety, if it ever fails, it fails and defaults to stock mode and your Pedal sensitivity has never changed in reverse. So it always knows what gear you’re in and when you’re in reverse, it reverts back to your standard Pedal. So you don’t have a jumpy Pedal when you’re backing the boat down the ramp. So you don’t show up on qualified captain. It’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 23m 49s):

The only one that has that feature. Just FYI. And you guys don’t wanna miss out on the huge sale that is going on until I think tomorrow it’s the 4th of July sale at onX Offroad you go to onX maps.com, you use the Code Freedom 30 for 30% off your onX Maps subscription mega.

Sean P. Holman (1h 24m 11s):

This is the Offroad Map app built for adventure with a ton of key features discovering Offroad trails. You can save maps for offline use when you don’t have a sell signal. You can track save share trips, you can use their Route builder. You can find out public and private land info customized with markups and waypoints and icons. It’ll sync with CarPlay and Android Auto and it has powerful 3D maps. onX Offroad is awesome. Head to the Apple App store or over to the Google Play Store. Download on your phone and any changes you make on one device shows up across all of your accounts. onX Offroad is the app that we use for our adventures and we highly recommend it for years. So again, that’s Freedom 30. And you can get yourself a big fat discount and if you do the elite tier membership, 20 different companies, 20 plus companies where you get discounts including a free subscription to OVR.

Sean P. Holman (1h 24m 57s):

So, alright, well on behalf of The, Truck, Show, Podcast, and Lightning myself, we’d like to wish everybody a happy, safe 4th of July. Hope you’re enjoying it with your family and eating hotdog and swen beer. I’ll be on family vacation out in Catalina Island watching the USC band and fireworks and that’s cool. All sorts of cool stuff with the, with the fans. I’m gonna actually take like my first vacation and this is my first like more than two days off in a row in like six months or something since I think Christmas. So I’m gonna be out there’ve it. You

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 25m 23s):

Earned it. You’ve earned it.

Sean P. Holman (1h 25m 23s):

You’ve earned it. If you happen to be on Catalina, come find me because every time I go there I see like if there’s a celebrity on the island or something, you see them every day. Like I was there with guys because it’s so small guy fii. I, I, you know, I think I saw one of the South Park creators was there on another trip and so, you know, if you run by me four or five times and you go, I think that Tolman’s probably me. So just, just say hi and I’ll even have truck Show Podcast stickers with me. So come up and I’ll, I’ll hand you one if you happen to see me. Avalon. Well

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 25m 50s):

If you’re hanging out on a Lightnings block in Long Beach, you’ll, you’ll see him watching kids go down the three story inflatable water slide that he’s rented for the,

Sean P. Holman (1h 26m 1s):

For the entire block. For the whole block. Where are you putting it? In the middle of the street.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 26m 4s):

I put it in my driveway and it goes all the way to the street. It goes from my, what do I have? Like a 30 foot setback or something? Probably right? Probably. It goes, it touches my house. Yeah, it goes all the way into the street.

Sean P. Holman (1h 26m 14s):

And which kids are gonna be playing in this other than you?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 26m 17s):

All of them. Oh no, it’s Mayhem is Uncle

Sean P. Holman (1h 26m 19s):

Lightning. It’s having the party at his house.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 26m 21s):

It’s yellow and purple and it’s named Mamba after Kobe.

Sean P. Holman (1h 26m 25s):

How’s your homeowner’s insurance?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 26m 27s):

They don’t know about it.

Sean P. Holman (1h 26m 28s):

Okay, just checking. Alright. Happy fourth everybody. We we love you. We appreciate you and

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Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 26m 40s):

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