Lightning attends Florida Truck Meet and shares his weekend of truck-loving antics. Find out about the latest new truck debuts and the guys discuss a recent survey that uncovers which truck is more expensive used than new from the dealer. The Truck Show Podcast is proudly presented by Nissan, in association with Banks Power and Bilstein.



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Lightning (0s):

So I just raced over to the pod shed behind Holman’s house. Why from Adventure Offroad in the Ram dealership right next door getting my 7,500 mile oil change in the Okay.

Holman (12s):

T wreck. I have a question for you. Yes. Did you follow the oil change interval or did you just take it in magically At 7,500 miles? I was supposed to

Lightning (18s):

Do it at 2,500 and then 8,000 and I went at 17 and 75. That

Holman (26s):

Doesn’t answer my question, so Yeah,

Lightning (28s):

I’m pretty close to it.

Holman (29s):

That’s not what I asked. Well, what you, the modern vehicles tell you when there’s not a set mileage anymore, it just tells you on the dash. Oh, I don’t You

Lightning (36s):

Can follow that. Don’t I don’t go by that. That’s what I was asking you. I I go By the actual paper manual that is in my glove box.

Holman (41s):

Yeah. Okay. hold on. Before No, stop, stop, stop, stop.

Lightning (45s):

Wait, I wanna talk about this

Holman (46s):

Though. No, what, what are we talking about?

Lightning (47s):

So the thing is, is that I was

Holman (49s):

All what? Be more interested in more gifts from our listeners. We’re

Lightning (52s):

Gonna get to that. Okay. I was all excited that I had free oil because you know, Banks has a partnership with AM oil. Okay. So here’s me Gleefully swiping a case of 12 courts of zero W 40 European fully synthetic AM oil off the shelf at work today. And I throw in the back of the truck and I race down to Huntington Beach. And then on the way down I go, wait a minute,

Holman (1m 17s):

That’s not my viscosity.

Lightning (1m 18s):

I, no, it is my viscosity. Okay. Zero 40. But I thought, why is it specific to European cars? Hmm. Go to AMS And I go and wait a minute. They have signature series zero 40. Hmm. I wonder what the difference is. So on the way down to Huntington Beach, I call Mark Olm, who’s one of the engineers at AMS Oil. And I say, Hey, I’ve got this European oil, can I use it? He goes, well, hold on just a second. We also have signature series that’s more for your truck. And I go, what’s the difference? He says, certain formulations don’t calcify at low R P M. And I said, calcify a low R P M. He goes, yeah, some oils, depending on the formulation, can calcify and create detonation, which is bad.

Lightning (2m 0s):

Of course everyone knows detonation is bad. And he says that certain oils, European oils that they have are made for high R P M. And I want one that’s made for low R P M. ’cause a lot of the times, like with a supercharge engine, it’ll lug, like my engine will go down 80 miles an hour at 1500 RPM on the, on the highway. So he goes, you probably shouldn’t use that oil. Use the Mopar stuff for now, and on your next oil change, use the signature series zero 40 that’s made for your engine.

Holman (2m 28s):

And you immediately called Gail back at work and said, Hey boss, can you walk out in the warehouse and see if we’ve got some signature oil?

Lightning (2m 34s):

No, I, why

Holman (2m 35s):

Do you have European oil there?

Lightning (2m 37s):

Because I have a Mercedes.

Holman (2m 41s):

So basically the Mercedes is the same viscosity as the ram? Yes it

Lightning (2m 45s):


Holman (2m 45s):

That’s convenient for you. Yeah, yeah,

Lightning (2m 47s):


Holman (2m 48s):

You know, I recently had a meeting with AM oil and I should have worked that into their support of the show. Just lifetime supply of AM Oil. And we’ll just talk about you all the time.

Lightning (2m 56s):

I have a rack as tall as this pod headd. Yeah. Full of Oh, you’ve seen it? Well,

Holman (2m 60s):

I’m taking some Next time I come over, yeah.

Lightning (3m 2s):

We have every viscosity. Although we have Diesel oil. Yeah. But

Holman (3m 4s):

I get like five free oil changes as part of my deal. So I’m just going, I’m rolling with that until

Lightning (3m 9s):

I just spent $164 on an oil change.

Holman (3m 12s):

The Jeep is 2 65 or something like that.

Lightning (3m 16s):

Well I got, I got tires rotate. I got the Mike Rice hookup as well. So it’s a little lower than normal for the T Rx. No it’s not. I paid straight

Holman (3m 23s):

Him. I called him and I said, you know, Jay’s coming in today, right? And he’s like, oh, I know.

Lightning (3m 26s):

I’m sure you did. I’m, I’m sure you did

Holman (3m 29s):

All. right. Listen, Ryan Kornblum hit me up on, and this is our friend from Canada who we think, I think he sent us a bunch of stuff. We’re opening up this envelope. He asked for something for the pod shed. He said, what’s the address? I sent it to him and he’s once again coming through before we come through for him, see a couple of key chains here. Oh, check it out. That’s cool. Thanks Ryan. You gotta

Lightning (3m 53s):

Share it with me. No,

Holman (3m 55s):

I’m taking both of ’em. Look in A T R X.

Lightning (3m 58s):

Yeah. Oh

Holman (3m 59s):

Wow. Metal cut out Key chain. This is a key chain A in a Wrangler jail. This

Lightning (4m 3s):

Was cut on a,

Holman (4m 4s):

That’s cool. Looks like a

Lightning (4m 6s):

Key chain guy.

Holman (4m 6s):

A key chain guy on Instagram and Facebook. Dude, that’s rad. Thank you. That’s super cool. You know what studio keys are going on this because right now the studio keys are not on anything and they basically keep bouncing around my house and my wife’s like, you know, you should probably hang those up somewhere where you will not leave them, forget them or lose them. ’cause then you can’t do a show. And I’m like, I should do that. But I don’t have an extra key chain. But now we do. Wow.

Lightning (4m 30s):

Since Ryan gave us these key chains, do we owe it to him to not suck on this episode?

Holman (4m 34s):

We owe him a lot of thanks. Not sucking as high on that list. All. right. Hey, you were talking about being world travelers and all that. So you went somewhere and I went somewhere. How’d that go?

Lightning (4m 44s):

I went to Homestead Florida to hang out with our man Jordan Auer update. I had never been to Homestead Florida before. You land in Miami and you head south about 40 minutes and you end up in the middle of nowhere. What was your

Holman (4m 56s):

Rental car?

Lightning (4m 57s):

A brand new 2022 Challenger. That’s

Holman (5m 1s):

Not horrible. V six, probably

Lightning (5m 2s):

V six.

Holman (5m 3s):

That’s okay. 300 horse. Yeah,

Lightning (5m 4s):

It wasn’t bad. I was actually I mean that doesn’t, it didn’t have CarPlay. That was annoying. And then I plugged in expecting, I’m pretty sure

Holman (5m 13s):

All of ’em have CarPlay

Lightning (5m 14s):

Couldn’t get it to work. Hmm. Dude had the seven inch screen car was much quicker than I expected. I did some Brody’s. that wasn a great event. I’m gonna play some audio for you. I think you’ll enjoy it. I’ve got Jordan on here. A lot of lifted truck owners. That show is 95% lifted trucks, 30 inch wheels.

Holman (5m 34s):

Is that the new standards? Thirties, 40. What’s on thirties? 40 fours.

Lightning (5m 38s):

They’re like, yeah, 40 fours on thirties. There’s not much tire. Since I didn’t get audio, I will let you know that I awarded The Truck Show Podcast Award. Wait,

Holman (5m 48s):

Wait, wait. You went to Florida as The Truck Show Podcast to represent us. And you didn’t get audio of the Truck Show podcast award being awarded?

Lightning (5m 58s):

I didn’t, because every time I took out the recorder, which was my phone in this case to record, said person who won the award, he would ditch me. But then when I finally came up and had a nice conversation, not recording him, he was awesome.

Holman (6m 13s):

I don’t know what this means. This sounds very, remember shenanigans.

Lightning (6m 16s):

You remember Rob from Plan B Fab? Yeah. Rob doesn’t like to be recorded. Yeah, but Rob’s happy to get an award and chat with me not being recorded. So he had the most amazing first gen Ram. Should,

Holman (6m 29s):

Should we just call Rob right now and ask him why he doesn’t wanna be recorded? I don’t

Lightning (6m 32s):

Think he’s gonna pick up. So I’ll post some pictures of his first gen ram. It is absolutely stunning. You may or may not be a fan of the wheels.

Holman (6m 41s):

Is it the freshness?

Lightning (6m 43s):

It is so fresh and so clean. So anyway, I’ve got some great audio coming up after the Intro. But first you went to Moab.

Holman (6m 51s):

I did. And I got a, a new best in the 3 92.

Lightning (6m 55s):

A new best meaning miles

Holman (6m 56s):

Per gallon. Oh yeah. Did 15.9 on the way out. Oh

Lightning (6m 60s):

No joke. That’s good.

Holman (7m 1s):

I made it all the way from home to past Vegas at the Speedway. Okay. On one tank. Wow. I know. That’s pretty impressive. It’s awesome. It’s amazing when there’s no wind, how, how good that thing is.

Lightning (7m 12s):

You know what else I saw happen to you is you crushed your exhaust pipe.

Holman (7m 16s):

That’s not true.

Lightning (7m 17s):

It’s not true. Nope. What did you, what did you do to your

Holman (7m 19s):

Exhaust? I crushed my right hand side exhaust tips. Oh. And then I proceeded the next day to crush the left hand side exhaust tips.

Lightning (7m 27s):

So those are not high tuck exhaust. This

Holman (7m 29s):

Is what’s funny about that is everybody crushes their tips on 3 9 2. Even the ones that were out at, you know, the, the media preview. Everybody was crushing tips on those stupid things and they come off. So like, if you’re not stupid, you can just take ’em off. But who wants to mess with taking their tips off every time? So wait a minute,

Lightning (7m 46s):

Are they v banded on?

Holman (7m 47s):

They are. So here’s the thing I called Mike Rice. Of course you did. And I said, Hey, can you order me the four tips, whatever you know your cost is. He is like, yeah, no problem. And he texted me, he goes, have a drink and call me back. Oh. And I went, crap. So I called him back. Take a guess at what? Four exhaust tips on 3 9 2 cost the dealer four

Lightning (8m 11s):

Exhaust tips. You only have two. You were buying spares?

Holman (8m 15s):

No, I have four and all four are crushed.

Lightning (8m 18s):

Oh, because you have the cutouts.

Holman (8m 20s):

Okay. All. right. How much are four exhaust tips from the dealer.

Lightning (8m 24s):

From what I recall, yours were 3 0 4 stainless from the factory and they’re about eight inches long. I say they should cost no more than $60 each.

Holman (8m 37s):

$600. Who,

Lightning (8m 39s):


Holman (8m 40s):

What? $600 more than get out. Yeah. Get

Lightning (8m 44s):

The fuck

Holman (8m 44s):

Out. So I, I made some calls and next week it’s going to MagnaFlow for a new exhaust. Of course. It’s because,

Lightning (8m 53s):

Because that’s what you do when you don’t wanna spend $600 on four stock tips.

Holman (8m 56s):

Well, and they’d offered an exhaust and I’m like, ah, you know, I’ll see how this one does, you know, blah, blah, blah. But now I’m, I’m like, I’m not paying $600 for the dealer to have.

Lightning (9m 5s):

So do I I sense a, an interview with Rich over at MagnaFlow. Yeah,

Holman (9m 8s):

Probably. Yeah. We’ll, we’ll probably make that happen.

Lightning (9m 10s):

Rich has not, he has been on the show. No, he’s been on the many episodes ago. Yeah.

Holman (9m 14s):

And people were asking, well, why not Borla? Well, David offered me the exhaust, but their bends interfere with the rear suspension. So if you have piggyback shocks like I do, they won’t, it won’t work. So, and Richard invited me to test their exhaust a while back. And so I’m taking em up on it. It’s actually a really, really high-end, very nice piece. And their tips are tucked up higher and they’re closer to center line. Whereas, and

Lightning (9m 39s):

Most important, they don’t come crushed.

Holman (9m 41s):

They don’t come crushed. So anyway, I, I’m trying to get that done before I head over to over LED expo because my Jeep will be in the a v booth. So that’s humble brag, super important. So anyway, my trip was 1,695 miles. Took me 39 hours and 19 minutes of driving. Well that, that includes all my off-roading and stuff. I,

Lightning (10m 0s):

So for a second, thought you were gonna say that wasn $1,692.

Holman (10m 4s):

No, no, no. It’s probably as close that and

Lightning (10m 5s):

Fuel and parts I,

Holman (10m 6s):

Including the day where I averaged 6.7 miles per gallon my entire trip. 15.5. I’m, I’m happy with that. Totally happy with that. And you may have heard the name Randy Pros.

Lightning (10m 22s):


Holman (10m 23s):

So Randy, one of the most famous championship US race drivers in the world rode with me one day on the trail. He had never been offroading before. Nothing like crawling four little crawling up waterfalls and stuff. Wait,

Lightning (10m 34s):

Wait, how’s that possible? He’s done every kind of racing day.

Holman (10m 37s):

So the whole day he and I were talking about how to Offroad. I was teaching him how to Offroad. that wasn super weird. I’m like, dude, you’re one of the best Wheel men in the entire world.

Lightning (10m 46s):

He’s, he’s one of the fastest men of Pike Peak

Holman (10m 48s):

And one of the nicest guys you could ever meet. So I got to hang out with him and ride shotgun, and he rode shotgun with me and showed him a good time in, in Moab, which was pretty awesome. And I think I have a lifelong friend now. Do you really?

Lightning (11m 1s):

Yeah. Did you get a cell phone?

Holman (11m 3s):

Did I get his cell phone? Did you

Lightning (11m 4s):

Get his number? Yes.

Holman (11m 6s):

I can I can text him anytime. we can have him on the

Lightning (11m 9s):

Show. I don’t show me his number. Seriously. Pull it up on your phone. Randy Propst.

Holman (11m 15s):

Read this text right here on my phone.

Lightning (11m 20s):

All. right. This is a Wow. I’ve never seen so many people in a group text before.

Holman (11m 24s):

That was all the people at the Bill Bilstein house, which is a whole other story.

Lightning (11m 27s):

Holy crap. Oh, By, the way I saw your, your photos from the Bill Bilstein house. Yeah. You had like YouTubers and Instagrammers like

Holman (11m 34s):

Alex Cho. We had racers like, like Cade Rod we

Lightning (11m 39s):

Had, tell me, you had tell me, you asked Alex Choi, who’s famous for his crazy supercars. Did you have a discussion about

Holman (11m 46s):

No, but I got him drunk.

Lightning (11m 47s):

His, his Tesla? No, I have a picture. Not his Tesla, but the Tesla, the nose dive.

Holman (11m 50s):

I got him drunk and I have pictures of him hugging a shock on a couch.

Lightning (11m 53s):

A shock on the couch. Yeah.

Holman (11m 54s):

He’s snuggling with a 5,100

Lightning (11m 57s):

Then that’s not a euphemism. Anyway,

Holman (11m 59s):

Read what Randy said. Hi,

Lightning (12m 0s):

It’s Randy. We took Barbara’s forerunner on the Jeep Trail to arches. Sean’s Offroad advice paid off many times. Our Bill Bilstein Street heavy duty shocks worked well on the moderately rough Offroad as Sean and Junior told me. The higher shock speeds increased damping and the control was quite good. Continuing the Adventure, we exited the park to the north on Salt Valley Road. that wasn a fitting farewell to the Bilstein Moab experience.

Holman (12m 23s):

How rad is that? Wow. Forget Randy in a tech group text. Like Yeah, Sean gave me some good advice about driving. I’m, I’m gonna carry that one for a while. That’s awesome. So anyway, the, the bill Oh

Lightning (12m 35s):

No, I have some for that. So

2 (12m 36s):

That, so that, so that happened.

Lightning (12m 40s):

Yep, that happened. That

Holman (12m 41s):

Happened. You are sitting in the presence of

Lightning (12m 44s):

Greatness. No,

Holman (12m 45s):

Not at all.

Lightning (12m 46s):

No, no greatness adjacent.

Holman (12m 47s):

No, not even that. No. I was gonna say at the, the driving instructor for Randy Pros.

Lightning (12m 55s):

That’s weird. That is weird. Right? That’s like being the STIGs Stig, right?

Holman (12m 59s):

Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. Hmm. So anyway, Randy’s super nice guy. If, if he ever hears this, I just wanna let him know he’s not

Lightning (13m 5s):

Gonna listen to

Holman (13m 5s):

This I mean he might not, but he’ll be stupid. I, I wanna say thank you. that wasn, that wasn a pleasure to have in, in my vehicle. And the fact that I got to take him out By the way we’re in this house, other than Randy, I’m the next oldest person by a lot, like, probably 10 years.

Lightning (13m 22s):

Who were the four girls that you shot on the sitting on the counter? Like all talking girl talk.

Holman (13m 28s):

Those were all the wives and girlfriends. While all the dudes were gone. And so I just thought that wasn hilarious. I’m like, I’m gonna go talk to the girls while all these dudes are like 50 feet away looking at like Alex Troy videos on his laptop. And I’m like, what’s wrong with this world? And they’re all just super hot, super sweet, nicest girls. Anyway, they, they wrote me into a drinking game, which is awful. I’m too old for this. So

Lightning (13m 50s):

Wait, they were playing beer pong?

Holman (13m 52s):

No, they were playing, the table

Lightning (13m 54s):

Was covered in beer.

Holman (13m 55s):

They were, they were playing cheers to the governor. And then once cheers to the governor ended, they decided to go on a six on six game of Flip cup. Well, ah, this was Flip cup elimination. And our friend Colin Coates from Built to Wander was in the house also. And his wife is a beast at Flip Cup, dude. And so, but I’m looking at these guys and they’re all drinking like White Claw Seltzer Utah beer. So we had half a bottle of Buffalo Trays left. So I decided that I was gonna teach them how to drink and for their ounce to ounce when they did their seltzers in the flip cup. I did an ounce of buffalo tray. I killed that dude. That bottle was gone.

Lightning (14m 36s):

Oh. my God You must’ve been hammer.

Holman (14m 38s):

We were up till four 30 in the morning. Oh, we were, we were singing with Brent Hensley. He, I think he’s been on before. He is the one of the Bill Bilstein like influencers who has that demon gladiator.

Lightning (14m 49s):

Yeah. Okay. Okay.

Holman (14m 50s):

So he pulls out his acoustic guitar at like three o’clock in the morning and we’re, he’s

Lightning (14m 54s):

Not playing.

Holman (14m 54s):

Really? Yeah, we’re jamming Cade Rod and me and him. And we’re singing and everybody, I was the last person to go to bed. I was up at eight 30 in the morning down the stairs by nine. And people were looking at me

Lightning (15m 7s):

Like, like Jesus had risen.

Holman (15m 8s):

Something like that. And what was amazing is I had texts all day because Word had gotten out about how hammered the house got and that I drank all these kids under the table. And they’re like, we thought you’d be dead. And like, and my phone’s like, you know, all these little texts came in. It’s like, dude, I heard about last night, you’re a beast. And then I had somebody go, are you alive? Are you in the hospital? And I’m like, no, it’s normal. So like, people sobbing in the morning and they’re, they’re like, no, it’s

Lightning (15m 36s):

Normal is your quote.

Holman (15m 37s):

Listen, this is what I had to teach the youngins. They’re like, dude, I can’t believe How much. You drank Oh. my God dude. And I’m like, listen, if you’re gonna play, you gotta ring the bell in the morning. All. right? That’s what you gotta do. You gotta gotta get up and make the day. Yours and You know what, see

Lightning (15m 54s):

What people don’t realize. What people don’t know is that Holman has a secret bypass liver.

Holman (16m 2s):

No I mean I I guess it’s just I drink enough burp. Like listen. So I haven’t really pushed the limit in a long time. Let me tell you I’m not gonna do it again. That may be the last time ever. But just like Toby Keith, I’m not as good as I once was, but I’m as good once as I ever was. Yeah, that’s what that was right there, dude. All of them wrecked, absolutely wrecked. They all look like death. And me and the next one, I’m like, woo, sun’s out. Let’s go wheeling. that wasn awesome dude. I was pretty, I I was. You

Lightning (16m 28s):

Showed up the youngin dude.

Holman (16m 30s):

They’re looking at me like, dude, the old gray man. He can, he can drink. And it, it felt good to win one for the, for our generation. That’s

Lightning (16m 38s):

An interesting achievement. By the way

Holman (16m 40s):

Out, drinking like 20 and 30 year olds. Yes. Yeah. Like I said, I won’t be doing it again. That may be the last time, but dammit, I went out strong.

Lightning (16m 49s):

You had to, how many Tylenols did you pop?

Holman (16m 52s):

None. What now I just drank a bunch of water. All. right. I’m gonna show you a picture right here. And I need you to explain what this picture is. That was later in the night. But what does that look like?

Lightning (17m 3s):

Oh, lemme hold this right here. All. right? I see four cans of something. No,

Holman (17m 7s):

No, in the bottle. Oh,

Lightning (17m 8s):

The bottle. That’s a bottle That is about a one fifth left in it.

Holman (17m 12s):

That’s, that’s the big bottle though. Okay. That wasn’t

Lightning (17m 15s):

The big bottle. Okay. That’s almost, that was that

Holman (17m 17s):

The like halfway through the night? This is, this is how it ended. Oh, here’s By the way, here’s Alex on the couch. Drunk and hugging a shock. Oh there it is. Which is super funny. All right there it is. Died a hero. Completely empty. Empty

Lightning (17m 34s):

Oh my God buffalo trace. Ah,

Holman (17m 36s):

So good. Ah,

Lightning (17m 38s):

I have a headache. Just looking at that photo.

Holman (17m 40s):

Yeah. Well

Lightning (17m 40s):

God, I don’t know how you did that. You, but you’ve trained. I’ve,

Holman (17m 44s):

I’ve trained. You’re, you’re a professional athlete. Listen, when people look at me, they don’t see champion. But, but that’s how I get ya. I sneak in quietly and shlubby on the side and then I go for the kill. When you’re not looking, you are the sleeper. I I definitely can sleep some. Yeah. If You know what I mean, he’s the undercover drinker. That just means napping By the way at our age. All. right? We should get into the show. We should.

Lightning (18m 5s):

No. Why? It’s only 85 minutes long. The Intro.

Holman (18m 9s):

This is gonna be a long one too. Right? I think you have all sorts of stuff from Florida, Truck, Meet. And

Lightning (18m 13s):

We don’t have time for it. Oh, All. right. Push it off for the next episode. Sounds We’re done. See you guys. Thanks for tuning. No,

Holman (18m 17s):

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We have sponsors that we need to, we need to We sure do. All right? We got Nissan and By the way what you guys

Lightning (18m 24s):

Don’t even tell ’em to stop. Don’t even I knew you were gonna say that. Don’t I didn. You guys have been. I just said you guys, you guys have been Frontier spotting the crap.

Holman (18m 32s):

Oh my God out of our Oh. my God dude

Lightning (18m 33s):

Out out of our email. Please keep doing it. Let

Holman (18m 35s):

Me just, let me just do a couple here. Sure. Okay. Just, just a couple.

Lightning (18m 40s):

I should be the one complaining. Look at this. Look at this list of all, look at these lists. Look at this.

Holman (18m 44s):


Lightning (18m 45s):

I printed out the dozens and dozens and dozens of Okay.

Holman (18m 48s):

Calm down. Lighting

Lightning (18m 49s):

Of physical mailing addresses. Stick. Right. You started this

Holman (18m 50s):

Stickers. You can’t complain about it.

Lightning (18m 52s):

I’m not, I’m not. You are sh

Holman (18m 54s):

Chris Meyers the other day that wasn the first time in a while. My wife is driving a, not me, wouldn’t you know it? I seen Four Frontier Pro. Four X in the same color in under 24 hours. Took a few pictures of two of them. Hashtag Frontier Spot again. Yeah buddy. That’s from, from Chris Meyer. And then we have Kevin Carroll. Hey guys, dunno if you stopped this campaign yet, but here’s a pick of a pretty sweet looking frontier from the windshield of my Less than fun to talk about work car. Great show. And five stars. Then we got one here from Joseph Barberino from Tear Spotting on my way to Costco listening to The Truck Show Podcast. And decided to look for some frontiers on my five mile drive to Costco. I saw five frontiers, all pictures taken for the front seat of my 89 F three 50 Fons.

Holman (19m 34s):

I sent you an email about a couple years back when I was building it. Here’s a picture of it with my four runner up in Big Bear. Bonus Nissan mini truck. Here’s my address. I mean just on and on. How about David Tury? I got my stickers and I put one up on the beer fridge for everyone to see. How about Colin Eing frontier spotting. Hey boys, greetings from the north. Here’s one of hundreds of frontiers in Canada. We love these trucks. Can you guess what I’m driving? Your podcast is on top of my playlist. He looks like he is. Ooh, that’s a big tall mirror. That’s gonna be a semi-truck ’cause he’s really high off the ground and it’s very vertical. Hard to save van

Lightning (20m 8s):

Or save

Holman (20m 8s):

From that photo. Yeah. Might be a transit van or something like that. Maybe that wasn a van Robert Wimpy says just his address. Sends a picture. Just, just sends his address. Robert, you gotta gotta give us a love here. How about our friend Justin Gore. Hey fellas. Justin, your favorite Subaru owner here attaches the pick of the new frontier with that kind of goofy sport bar taken Lovely Manhattan Beach on a post rainy day insert California Pompousness. ’cause it’s such a nice day from the Banks pedal monster powered Forester wilderness. If y’all feel inclined to send a sticker addresses below, even though I still have one from my visit with you guys at the old studio. Anyways, you tore. Awesome. Keep it the five star working. Yeah buddy. Yeah buddy. We got Nicholas Ano Frontier spotting. Hello Liberace and Houdini.

Holman (20m 50s):

What? Liberace?

Lightning (20m 51s):

Yeah. No way.

Holman (20m 52s):

I listen

Lightning (20m 52s):

To what, oh wait a minute. hold on a second. Houdini hides things so I don’t know.

Holman (20m 56s):

I’m hiding my affliction for bourbon. Mm. Hello Liberace and Houdini. I listen to the podcast on my commutes to and from work and y’all keep me very entertained. Today is luck. What have it. You were talking about the Frontier pick challenge at the exact same time. I was passing a truck full of them as I was crossing the Illinois border back in Wisconsin. that wasn like that wasn meant to be. I’m an avid Diesel enthusiast, which is how I found your show. So I love guests like Gale and Corey. I’m on my fourth DMM Max now currently driving a 22 Denali, 3,500. It’s my daily. And also just to tow our fifth Wheel. How’s that towing episode coming along? Oh, By the way. Talk to a representative at Kurt at Moab. I might be lining up a tow episode.

Lightning (21m 29s):

That’s what Kurt told me. And then they

Holman (21m 31s):

Lied, but I found the vice president. Oh. So he said hit me up. I’ll get my people. Did you,

Lightning (21m 36s):

Did you get his actual phone number?

Holman (21m 38s):

Yes. And his card. Two cards. The one from the mothership and the one from the brand. I got two emails for the dude.

Lightning (21m 43s):

I think both lines have been disconnected.

Holman (21m 45s):

I track ’em down. He says A fun fact for the show was at 997 reviews. I took my wife’s phone and gave five star reviews. Then drove to my mom’s house and used her phone for a five star review. Nice.

Lightning (21m 54s):


Holman (21m 55s):

Using mine to cast a thousandth review. Five star review. Yeah buddy. I’d love some stickers, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. Lightning. And then he says, you know, don’t do

Lightning (22m 5s):

Me dirty like that. Dude. I’ve been mailing ’em out every single morning. Well that’s the first thing I

Holman (22m 8s):

Do. Listen, Nick then says thanks and keep up the good work. He says, pss, we don’t have Whataburger or in and out here in Wisconsin. Well we, we do have culverts, which we know. And he says it’s better anyways. It’s top five for me. I’ll happily take my butter burger with a side of Kurds any day. Same here. P p s wanna hook up a fan with a bank’s discount? Well, You know what you do. You slide in Lightnings dms. But dude, we have, there are another 30 and I’m not gonna go through all of ’em. Frontier spot. We’ll save ’em for other episodes. But dude, you guys have been hitting the frontier. Spotting hard. Bring it. So now that you know how many are out there, don’t be jealous. Be like those other frontier drivers. Go pick yourself up. One you can head on down to your local dealership or you can head to Nissan where you can build and price the Nissan Frontier that will outdo all those other frontiers out there.

Lightning (22m 50s):

Just occurs to me, yes, that

Holman (22m 51s):


Lightning (22m 52s):

Probably a frontier owner’s Facebook group and they’re talking to each other going, have you noticed people photographing us?

Holman (22m 59s):

That would be funny. What’s,

Lightning (22m 60s):

What’s up with everyone taking their phones out and shooting photos of us?

Holman (23m 4s):

I mean we have a lot. We definitely have enough where we could bother some people. we can cause like scare unrest. Unrest in the frontier community. But it’s okay. We’re friendlys. We just wanna highlight you guys and lift you up. Listen, if you need a bigger truck, you got the Nissan Titan or the Titan XD five year, 100,000 mile warranty. And also in my driveway again, if you’ve noticed the

Lightning (23m 25s):

Blue one sitting there, just as I pulled up this afternoon, I thought, why does he have the Titan again? Why?

Holman (23m 30s):

Why not?

Lightning (23m 31s):

That’s Holman two Lightning zero from the Titan

Holman (23m 35s):

And I have it for a while.

Lightning (23m 39s):

What does that mean? I

Holman (23m 40s):

Don’t know. But you can go to Nissan U S A and building price one for yourself. Lightning,

Lightning (23m 44s):

You gonna tell me why you have it for a while?

Holman (23m 45s):

Not on the air.

Lightning (23m 48s):

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Holman (24m 31s):

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Lightning (25m 2s):

Damn. They’ve

Holman (25m 3s):

Got a new JL kit with Springs that gives you a one inch perfect for 30 fives. And here you can huck it and you can find them on everything Factory from Frontier Pro, four Xs Titan Pro, four Xs, Ram Rebels, TXs, and even the new Jeep Rubicon 20th anniversary level two, which is the A E V setup with either 51 hundreds or 81 hundreds. And I found out at Easter Jeep Safari, Mopar just dumped the shocks in their Mopar hit that other brand. And they’re not going with Bilstein moving forward. Comfort of Durability are the name of their game and they don’t compromise on control either. Head over to Bilstein,

2 (25m 39s):

The truck show. We’re gonna show you what we know. We’re gonna answer What? The truck, because truck rides with the truck show. We have the Lifted. We have the lowered and everything in between. We’ll talk about trucks that run on Diesel and the ones that run on gasoline. The truck show. The truck show. The truck show on the, whoa.

3 (26m 11s):

It’s the truck show with your hosts Lightning and Holman.

Lightning (26m 17s):

And I turned your mic almost all the way off, but I can still hear you. What do you wanna get to first, Mr. Holman? Do you want to jump into Florida Truck Meet?

Holman (26m 28s):

Yeah. Do you, do you have anything I mean? I You said you went there. I’m not sure that you actually did anything. I did hardly saw any photos from there.

Lightning (26m 36s):

No, it’s not true. I posted a

Holman (26m 38s):

Lot. I’m like, Hey lighting, go get some business for us. And you’re like, oh, I didn’t talk to that person.

Lightning (26m 43s):

I talked to a lot of folk and I started with Jordan. Jordan Mole mother fucking Bower up you. I just rolled into Homestead Speedway. Is that the official name of the Speedway?

Jordan (26m 56s):

Homestead? Miami Speedway

Lightning (26m 57s):

All. right. And this place is, it looked to me to be huge. But you say it’s just smaller than Daytona where you were. Although I wouldn’t have guessed that. Yeah,

Jordan (27m 5s):

It’s definitely probably about half the size. Maybe, I don’t know, quarter, quarter smaller. It’s definitely nowhere near as big as Daytona was. Vendors wise. We can’t fit everybody in here like we used to. So

Lightning (27m 15s):

Now I was coming through the tunnel following some of these mud trucks. And I’m not gonna say I had to roll up the windows because they rolled coal all over me. But maybe that happened. Yeah, you got

Jordan (27m 25s):

A little black on your face there. I. didn.

Lightning (27m 27s):

You need wipe it off here. I gotta take a shower now in my, in my sweet trailer. Scrub

Jordan (27m 30s):

That off and give it to your kids for Christmas.

Lightning (27m 32s):

Now Jordan got me a trailer about the size of this challenger that I rented here. And the trailer looks like it’s fit for a king. You

Jordan (27m 38s):

Get your own little plate, you get your own little side by side.

Lightning (27m 40s):

Yeah. Yep.

Jordan (27m 41s):

Oh, I’m excited. Too bad Sean couldn’t be here. If Sean was here, we would’ve had to upgrade you and do a bigger camper and nicer. Oh yeah.

Lightning (27m 48s):

I would’ve put him in a tent. How was your camper? that wasn brand new, that wasn about the size of the pod shed and had all the amenities. And I was stunned that the mattress was comfortable. ’cause they’re always rock solid and like 10 millimeters thick and they’re just awful. And this was really comfortable. Half of the, one of like, I think I slept in one of the mornings to like 11 and I’m like, Hey, there’s a truck show gone on outside. We were around the backside. that wasn peaceful. You must not have been drinking the night before. Not much. I didn’t drink much. No one I was with was drinking that much. But you still slept till 11. Like I No lighting sometimes you gotta get up and ring the bell. Okay. Yeah. I was excited that Jordan, who is your fellow Brownwater drinker, was going to teach me a thing or two about it didn’t happen.

Lightning (28m 33s):

I said, Hey, are you gonna teach me about bourbon and whiskey and the differences and, and, and teach me some snobbery? Nah, why I, why didn’t it happen? Did he leave you alone? No, he didn’t. Toilet paper your trailer the middle of the night. He didn’t, he just sat there, didn’t drag you out or anything. None of those things. He just sat there in his, in his like barka lounger reclining chair. Hell the hell his, his lounge chair. Okay. In front of his trailer. And he drank and I had a sour and we chatted and that wasn fun and seems but we just didn’t no lacking. Yeah. Hmm. I don like, remember he was, he was Mr. Bougie. I had, I had a rooftop tant on his last sheep. He probably, and now with the 3 92 probably fell

Jordan (29m 10s):

Off one time that wasn like, I’m never doing this.

Lightning (29m 12s):

Well that wasn the middle of the night. And like he would have, you get old and you have to pee a lot. Right. So, or he’s drunk and whatever and he doesn’t like climbing up and down. Plus you can’t put, apparently you can’t put a tent on top of the 3 92 like safely. So now he’s back to tent camping on the ground. You know, none of that’s true. Right? It’s not that, that’s what you told me. No it’s not. You could put a, a rooftop 10 on your 3 92 ’cause it wasn’t, it wasn’t, it wouldn’t hold a weight. You don’t listen to me very well, Don. I’ve never don’t said that. No. What, what was the reason I said no, I said I don’t wanna drill through the roof on my nice painted roof

Holman (29m 42s):

And I don’t want all the creeks and cracks that can come with it. I want a nice quiet thing. Now with all this power, it’s probably better not to have that higher center of gravity, but it’s not unsafe. If I, if there was a good roof mounting system for the JL that wouldn’t crack the top or make a bunch of noise, I would, I would totally be into it. So if

Lightning (30m 0s):

You drilled holes and it made a bunch of noise and it and it cracked, it’s unsafe. So I’m somewhat true, somewhat correct. Just making similar. I’m, I’m truth

Holman (30m 9s):

Adjacent. I I hear the words but they’re not making sentences.

Lightning (30m 12s):

Tell me what to expect tomorrow. Friday here at Homestead Speedway for Florida. Truck. Meet. So

Jordan (30m 18s):

Our Fridays is like a hybrid of vendor move in day plus show day because you’ve got the vendors that didn’t show up today obviously. ’cause you know it’s Thursday, it’s a work day. So everybody’s trying to get stuff done. It’s gonna be a little hectic in the morning trying to get vendors place and everything. But about,

Lightning (30m 31s):

Come on now. I did Thursday to freaking Monday. You know how many days Holman did zero?

Holman (30m 38s):

Let’s see, I did Friday through Saturday

Lightning (30m 42s):

Last time.

Holman (30m 43s):

No, I meant at Moab. Well I no I mean at, at Florida. My event, I was there for a week.

Lightning (30m 48s):

Not Florida, Truck. Meet.

Holman (30m 49s):

You did zero. Listen, sometimes we have to divvy up the responsibilities. If Jordan wouldn’t have picked the one weekend. I can’t go. I’m sorry Jordan. No, he called me. I said, listen, that’s the one time I can’t go. I’ve got obligations to, to Moab. Dude.

Lightning (31m 4s):

What’s the, how is the community different down here? ’cause South Florida very different than like Daytona. It’s just culturally it’s different. Right?

Jordan (31m 11s):

Culturally it’s different. It’s super welcoming. Everyone’s very, you know, hospitable. I, I love the people down here. Well

Lightning (31m 17s):

I didn’t, I didn’t sense that in Daytona they weren’t hospitable. I know you had different dealings with like the city council, but like when I was driving around the town, the townspeople seemed like they were welcoming. Is that not true? In Daytona? Yeah,

Jordan (31m 27s):

In Daytona. that wasn definitely, I don’t know, 50 50 shot. You know, when you come up to people down here, it’s almost guaranteed every person’s gonna be nice to you as long as you respect them right off the bat. That’s why I told people like, I’m gonna keep coming to this show, coming to this area from now on. Whether I get Daytona back or not. So I just, I can’t get away from this place. The, even the, the track people down here are super easy to work with. They’re nowhere near as tough as Daytona crowd. You know, when we would try to even get on the track at Daytona, that wasn going through 10 different hoops to try to just drive on the track out here. we can park all of our VIPs on the track and we can just walk out there all willy-nilly whenever we want to.

Lightning (32m 7s):

So I can lay down on the checker on the start finish line like you did last year.

Jordan (32m 10s):

Yeah. Yeah. we can bring some whipped cream out there. You can, whatever you wanna do. Jay. I, I don

Lightning (32m 15s):

Dunno if I wanna do the whipped cream thing here but we’ll see. So you said down here everyone’s welcoming. What about the truck scene? How does the truck scene differ? Or is it the same crew just coming further south? Because for those of you that don’t know Homestead, I feel like we’re only 50 miles from the southern tip of Florida. Is that right?

Jordan (32m 33s):

Yeah. So 30 minutes down the street, you’re in the keys. I mean crystal clear blue water even out outside.

Lightning (32m 38s):

I’ve never been to the Keys ever. Well we’re gonna

Jordan (32m 40s):

Not once go to the Keys while we’re down here. So, okay. Yeah, I’m gonna make that happen. Alright,

Lightning (32m 44s):

So what’s next on the agenda? We’re gonna set up camp, have some food and then Yep, yep.

Jordan (32m 48s):

I got you. Some chicken Parmesan sandwiches. Oh

Lightning (32m 50s):

Yes. Yeah. And do we have beer or do I need to go get that? We

Jordan (32m 55s):

Got beer, we got bourbon. We got vodka. What? You know,

Lightning (32m 58s):

So you need to, this is a, Jordan teaches Lightning about bourbon trip.

Jordan (33m 4s):

This is it. And Sean will be proud of me ’cause I, I brought some good stuff. I got some 141 proof Jack Daniels. That’ll light you up

Lightning (33m 10s):

On fire. Oh dear God.

Jordan (33m 11s):

Or I got some eagle red. It’s only 90 proof that you know, smooth and nice and you can have with a cigar and just enjoy it.

Lightning (33m 17s):

All, right? I mean Let’s go. Alright. Spoiler alert. Didn’t get to the keys. Okay. Didn’t have the brown water. Yeah, didn’t have the beer.

Holman (33m 25s):

Yeah, but you had a golf cart.

Lightning (33m 28s):

I did have a Kubota and that was cool. That made me happy. So I didn’t need any of those other things as long as I had the Kubota and I was just hauling ass doing my little 25 miles an hour by myself. That was cool.

Holman (33m 39s):

Did anybody recognize you? Nope.

Lightning (33m 44s):

In the next piece Holman, you’re gonna hear some wind.

Holman (33m 46s):

Oh, the very thing that you told me last episode Sure did. Not to bring to the studio. Got it.

Lightning (33m 52s):

Yeah. As I’m recording this, all I can think about is crap. I gotta get outta the wind because this is all I’m gonna hear about from Holman because I warned him when you go to Moab, don’t bring me back audio with wind noise. Well next

Holman (34m 5s):

Week’s audio you’ll find out whether I brought you back, wind noise or not dropped the wait.

Lightning (34m 10s):

So I roll up on these big tractor trailers pulling these low boys. Really? In your Kubota? In my Kubota, my in these low, low boys and these are custom fabricated low boys for these mega trucks. And apparently these are the originators of trucks gone wild. They do tug of wars in front of like nightclubs all over Florida and hell the east coast. So I ran. I’m like I had to know more. So what’s your name and how are you affiliated with Trucks Gone Wild.

Matt (34m 37s):

Matt Steele. I own it.

Lightning (34m 39s):

What’s the story with this

Matt (34m 40s):

Well? we bring out the side by side so we can get all our stuff around. ’cause we bring out for the tug of wood, we bring out the light poles and we bring out, you know, just straps and crevices and shackles and it stuff’s heavy and we’re parked whatever, a quarter mile away. So we got the skid-steer there for recovery just in case something happens. we can get the trucks up and out of there. The worst thing that can happen is a truck breaks, it can’t move and you’ve got no equipment to move it and you got a couple thousand people standing there watching. Right. That’s bad. That used to happen to us like 20 years ago. Now you know, we bring in some stuff so we can, we basically, we can keep the show going.

Lightning (35m 12s):

Let’s back up. We have listeners all over the world. Right? But I don’t know how many understand what trucks gone wild is. I think once they see what you do, it’s gonna be all over the place.

Matt (35m 22s):

It’s a lot of fun. Basically it’s, it’s all about just people getting together and having a good time. We run a tug of war event, which is basically two trucks with a big strap back to back on a concrete pad and you try to drag the other guy kicking and screaming backwards. Right. Realistically, nobody cares who wins and loses. It’s all about putting on the show, just roasting the tires. You’re gonna see dudes come out with the stereos pumping the doors open, they get in place, they climb in the back of the truck. They got a t-shirt cannon, they’re blowing off their t-shirts that have likenesses of their trucks on ’em. They’re getting the crowd all pumped and then they hook it up to another guy who was just throwing out like, like stuffed animal. It’s just like, it’s mind blowing. All l e d lights on the bottom. You’re

Lightning (36m 1s):

Say stuffed

Matt (36m 1s):

Animals. Everything, dude. Okay. There’s not much we haven’t seen by now and it’s just, it’s a party. It’s a good time. Now

Lightning (36m 8s):

What happens when you’ve got a big mud truck that’s lifted taller than you and I Yeah and parts start breaking. ’cause he gets traction and it’s ar ar, ar you know he’s grabbing.

Matt (36m 17s):

No, you don’t see as much carnage as he used to. The trucks were built a lot better than they did. There used to be a time when we had eight trucks at the event and nine of them would break. Right. Which isn’t even mathematically possible, but it happened. And nowadays, I mean we, we get events. Yeah. I don’t know how many people are gonna be here this weekend doing it, you know, but I mean you could do a good show with 15, 20, 30 or more trucks. You got, you got way too many. They don’t break like they used to because you know, the drive lines are beefed up. The axles are bigger and And you don’t break. Yeah, you don’t break when you’re spinning. It’s, it’s when it catches, that’s when the bad things happen. What, what’s

Lightning (36m 51s):

Breaking primarily

Matt (36m 52s):

U joints, axle shafts. That’s about it. Right? Chuck? The tranny get hot sometimes you get a quick little tranny fire thing. That’s about it. And

Lightning (36m 60s):

What do you, what are you roping the two trucks together with? So it doesn’t break?

Matt (37m 4s):

Oh, that’s a, it’s like a 80,000 pound rated. It’s like triple woven strap that is, it’s not

Lightning (37m 10s):

Like a Bubba Rope, it’s something bigger than that. Well,

Matt (37m 12s):

Bubba Ropes are pretty strong, but it’s bigger. And then everybody thinks that when the strap breaks, if it ever happens, which has happened, we’ve seen it happen like twice in 20 years. Everybody thinks that like, God,

Lightning (37m 20s):

What I goddamn windstorm. I didn’t know that wasn that bad. That’s I can seriously,

Holman (37m 24s):

Dude, I’m gonna,

Lightning (37m 26s):


Holman (37m 26s):

Is wrong with you? You sit there and you’re like, dude, don’t come back with wind. And then you like, bring a hurricane

Lightning (37m 31s):

Back. Well, this guy was working. I didn’t want to pull him into a, into a tent or whatever.

Holman (37m 36s):

Okay. Pulling him into a tent would be really weird. But maybe if he said, can we go in the cab of your truck? That wouldn’t it.

Lightning (37m 42s):

But, but he does while he’s talking to, he’s working like he’s he’s prepping these trucks. He’s taking the shackles off, you know, letting time

Holman (37m 48s):

Outs loose. Well, I mean, listen, if you were, you should’ve just told me you were a lot lizard and you like to go in his cab, I bet he would’ve followed you up there

Matt (37m 54s):

When And if the strap breaks, it drops and hits the grounds and the trucks pretty much stop. So, which is very hard to explain to anybody who hasn’t seen it.

Lightning (38m 2s):

Is it because they’re just peeling out, they’re just roasting the tires. So they’re, they don’t have any inertia.

Matt (38m 7s):

They’re geared low, they don’t have any inertia, there’s nothing. All of that. It’s just, it’s like boom boom. And the truck just kind of lurches forward and stops.

Lightning (38m 16s):

So what’s the magic for pulling someone in your direction? Is it lower gear? Is it putting in four Wheel Low.

Matt (38m 22s):

Being heavier. Being heavier.

Lightning (38m 24s):


Matt (38m 25s):

Right. I mean taller. The Yeah. You it can be where the hitch is is up there too. That’s my business partner. Chucky,

Lightning (38m 32s):

Nice to meet you Chucky. How you doing? Yes sir.

7 (38m 34s):

How you doing? Good.

Matt (38m 35s):

20 years we’ve been doing these things and, and Chuck has built every badass truck that you could, that you could see in the country. And he’s, he knows all that stuff As far as the, the angles and the science behind it.

Lightning (38m 46s):

Where did you guys start? What’s the story behind the company? Well,

7 (38m 49s):

We don’t have enough tape in your recorder for that one.

Lightning (38m 52s):

It’s digital. I can go on for a while.

7 (38m 54s):

New fancy stuff. I’m not used to that. I dunno. Originally probably eight seconds. I’ve been mud bogging and building trucks my whole life. But Eight seconds is where Matt Orlando. Matt in Orlando. Yeah. And that wasn a nightclub, but we did truck events there.

Lightning (39m 6s):

It’s called eight Seconds.

7 (39m 7s):

That wasn it’s not there anymore. But that wasn that’s

Lightning (39m 9s):

What my wife calls me By the way it sucks.

7 (39m 11s):

Oh man. Bad. Yeah. But yeah, that wasn a nightclub in Orlando and that’s where we kind of really got started. And that was 20 plus years ago.

Lightning (39m 18s):

Yeah. So you were doing it outside the nightclub? Yes, sir. In the front. In the parking lot. Yeah,

7 (39m 22s):

In the, in the parking lot. About a block from the skyscrapers in downtown Orlando. Yeah. So that wasn a pretty good backdrop for us. Yeah,

Matt (39m 28s):

That wasn really cool. That was good times. Good times.

Lightning (39m 30s):

And so it started organically like you guys just doing it for fun ’cause you were building trucks and you figured let’s do a tug of war in the parking lot. Or did they say we need a spectacle to get people to our club? How did that start?

7 (39m 41s):

I think that wasn a club promotion thing that wasn a Friday night we were doing them on because they did cow bull riding. Bull riding, not cow riding. They did bull riding on Saturday nights. So Friday night they were kind of slacking.

Lightning (39m 52s):

Now riding might be a little boring, just

7 (39m 54s):

Something new. And all the kids are trying it. The, the tugs we did on Friday night to promote the club and it works.

Lightning (39m 59s):

And when did it turn into a business where you guys were touring around the country doing trucks Gone wild? Geez, when

Matt (40m 6s):

The nightclub closed. Oh, okay. So what happened was we had all these big badass events going on to the club. Right. And everything’s good. You get, you get, we had kind of taken over Saturday nights there ’cause that was, the truck events became more popular and then all of a sudden the, the club closes down and we’re like, what are we gonna do now? We’re doing these badass events. We, we have nowhere to do ’em. And that wasn either quit or figure out what we were gonna do. And that was probably, that was probably 19 or 20 years ago. And in retrospect that club closing down was probably the best thing that ever happened to us because it forced us to grow and it forced us to expand. And had that club not closed, we don’t, one could say that we may not even be doing this anymore.

Matt (40m 47s):

And we didn’t have a choice. So Interesting. Yeah.

7 (40m 50s):

Yeah. We had an older gentleman approach us next town over from us and said, Hey, I wanna do a truck event. He had an old rundown mud park, small one. And we said, yeah, we’ll do it. And we brought that back, you know, into the mainstream again. And we just expanded from there.

Matt (41m 7s):

And then the same thing happened there. Basically he came to us one day, we like saved the park and we got it to the point where he was making some pretty good money from our shows, you know, and, and that wasn like, thank you boys, I got this. I don’t need y’all anymore. And basically kicked us

Lightning (41m 19s):

Out. Oh No. And

Matt (41m 20s):

You’re like that again. What are we gonna do now again looking back, best thing that ever happened. ’cause that, that, that also made us go, forced

Lightning (41m 29s):

You to take it to the road.

Matt (41m 29s):

Well and that’s when we really st when the nightclub closed, we kind of spread around Florida a little bit. When that track closed, that’s when we started traveling around the whole country.

7 (41m 39s):

Keep in mind at this point in time, we were all on MySpace and a o l and chat rooms. that wasn very unique. We had our own form. We probably had the biggest Offroad form at the time. And that wasn how we did all our advertising. that wasn crazy. You know, it wasn’t instant posting and videos. Yeah. It wasn’t any of that. that wasn, that wasn difficult at the time.

Lightning (41m 57s):

How would you describe this whole scene to someone on the West coast who has never seen a mud park or a tug of war? Like what, how to you, you grew up with it, but for me from LA it’s so foreign and awesome,

7 (42m 12s):

You know, I don’t know. We think about that all the time and it, they have a lot of dunes and desert stuff over there and I don’t know if it would work or not. We’re willing to try something, you know,

Matt (42m 21s):

Anytime I’m announcing stuff, I always like to ask, you know, who’s here watching this for the first time? Whether it’s something out in the mud or at a tug of war thing. And, and it’s kind of a cliche thing that I’ve been saying for years, but I mean it. I said the first, the most important thing is do not try to figure it out. Like don’t sit, don’t overanalyze it. You’ll just ruin it for yourself. Just sit back, laugh, take it in. Have fun. It’s like pro wrestling. If you like pro wrestling, then your buddies are all like, you know, it’s fake, right? It’s like, no, I know it’s predetermined, but don’t ruin that for me. I’m still getting into the show aspect of it. Right. It’s the same thing. Got it. So

Lightning (42m 53s):

Congratulations on the success gentlemen. Thank dude. It’s, I can’t wait to see it tomorrow night. Thank you.

Matt (42m 58s):

It’ll be a good time.

Lightning (42m 59s):

So Saturday night, this event went off. Trucks gone wild. And what was really cool

Holman (43m 3s):

Holding was It at the Speedway still. Yes.

Lightning (43m 6s):

But that wasn in front and that wasn free for anyone in Homestead.

Holman (43m 8s):

So it didn’t blow up like the local mall or anything like No Daytona.

Lightning (43m 13s):

No, no, no. So they, a homestead apparently allocated a piece of pavement that they don’t use for parking and they put up kra, those cement blocks. Right. Keeping the people away. And they had, my god, 2030 trucks maybe more big, small. They had a couple of utility trucks just ram like chassis cabs pulling other trucks. Gas Diesel guys rolling coal guys running clean like that wasn really kind of interesting. But that wasn like pro wrestling in that they were going back and forth. You pull me then I’ll let off and then you pull me backwards. Something.

Holman (43m 49s):

So there’re, it’s like watching the Aqua Batts. You know, you’re gonna hear some music, but you’re also watching a entertaining show.

Lightning (43m 54s):

Yeah. Five guys in spandex dressed like mermaids. Five. There’s

Holman (43m 58s):

Like 20 of ’em up there. They’re

Lightning (43m 59s):

Dressed like Aquaman, right? Well

Holman (44m 1s):

I mean they’re the Aqua bats. Yeah. I mean there’s, it’s a, it’s a live cartoon. Toka music kids. It’s awesome.

Lightning (44m 7s):

So this guy you’re gonna like, he’s one of your people. So Homan, this next interview is of a guy in a field in a Silverado with a rooftop tent by himself weighing the corner. And I thought, what’s up with this guy? Like there’s no one else here with rooftop tents. Maybe

Holman (44m 23s):

He was part of the rooftop tent club and he was the only member there.

Lightning (44m 28s):

Sure. Fighting here with The. Truck. Show Podcast. What’s your name?

8 (44m 32s):

David Crane. David.

Lightning (44m 34s):

This is the the only rooftop tent I’ve seen out at Florida. Truck Meet.

8 (44m 38s):

Yes, I believe so. What’s

Lightning (44m 40s):

The story behind this Silverado? What year is this?

8 (44m 42s):

2011 Silverado running on forties from Pennsylvania. Drove all the way here. No way. 1400 miles.

Lightning (44m 51s):

What is it about this show? And we’ll get back to this Silverado in a second. What is it about this show that makes it so special? It’s worth driving 1400 miles to get to

8 (44m 58s):

My farthest one, yet they’re in Music City. This is the farthest one. Yet. Two years ago I came to Daytona, camped out. But when I heard that wasn down by Miami, I figured might as well come down here and hit up Key West and slay a couple more bucket list areas.

Lightning (45m 15s):

So what do you do for a living that allows you the time off? I

8 (45m 17s):

Work at a shop called High Caliber Motor Sports and I’m a union laborer. Okay. So I work on the pipeline occasionally.

Lightning (45m 24s):

Tell me about this truck. It’s complete. Is this Linex? What? What is the material on the outside? Completely.

8 (45m 30s):

Linex been Linex for seven years now.

Lightning (45m 33s):

So you’ve got not, it’s not a tear graphic, but you do have a graphic in the Linex, which is really hard to pull off. Well, and you’ve done it. Yes.

8 (45m 42s):

Yeah. We wanted to get the effect of basically the, the green being torn off as if you’re going down the road that wasn something random. I wanted to do shop the

Lightning (45m 52s):

Home in the front. Half of the truck is green and the back half is black and right on the rear doors at a 45 degree angle is kind of a tear. Does it look But it’s a more of a or organic tear. Does it

Holman (46m 5s):

Look like what he’s trying to do? was It cool?

Lightning (46m 8s):

It actually was kind of cool. It didn’t look dated. It didn’t look eighties. Yeah, it looked fairly modern for a tear. Did it look like

Holman (46m 13s):

A, A dinosaur ripped it off?

Lightning (46m 15s):

Yeah, it actually kind of did. It kind of looked very jurassic parkish, that green and black. But the line between where the green met the black was really well-defined. You know, you’ve seen where guys have tried a linex different colors together and it bleeds and it, it just, the two colors kind of co-mingle. Yeah, this was really well done. Thought

8 (46m 35s):

That wasn crazy. We pulled it off. So it looks great to this day. How

Lightning (46m 38s):

Do they do that? Because like a normal paint job, you mask it, right? Yes. They’ve got all that fine line masking. You can’t do that with Linex?

8 (46m 46s):

No. So we didn’t know how to do the wire tape. So we actually painted where it comes together by hand.

Lightning (46m 53s):


8 (46m 53s):

That’s my fingers. Yes. Yep. In between the green to the black that was painted by hand. You’re

Lightning (46m 58s):

Saying you painted on top of the Linx or that is the, the pigment in the Linx paint

8 (47m 2s):

Itself? Yes. It’s still sticking.

Lightning (47m 4s):

The Linx will outlast the truck.

8 (47m 7s):

I hope so. It probably will Being I’m at almost 200,000 miles now as my daily No,

Lightning (47m 12s):

This is your daily?

8 (47m 13s):

This is my daily unfortunately. Okay.

Lightning (47m 14s):

And is this up on a Kognito lift? what is that?

8 (47m 17s):

Kognito lift, 12 inch, three inch body. I got custom airbags in the back sport. All the weight. I got bed slide in the back. It’s got a lot of oddball stuff though. Train horns.

Lightning (47m 29s):

But you daily this thing up on forties? Yes. How does it ride?

8 (47m 33s):

Ride’s like a Cadillac. I’ve got lockers into it now running four 80 eights Yukon. It actually drives like a Cadillac. I feel so comfortable going on the road with it.

Lightning (47m 44s):

How’s the, is the truck tuned or stock

8 (47m 48s):

Bone? Stock motor.

Lightning (47m 49s):

No kidding. Yeah,

8 (47m 50s):

It’s one of the legendary five threes still kicking. Oh, you’ve

Lightning (47m 54s):

Got a five three in here. Sorry, I just assumed that wasn a durmax this high up.

8 (47m 58s):

I got 13 miles of the gown. All the,

Lightning (47m 59s):

I was gonna say, I was gonna guess that wasn under 10, but thirteen’s not bad actually.

8 (48m 2s):

Yeah, that’s not bad. If didn didn’t have the 10 on it, I got 16. Okay.

Lightning (48m 7s):

And whose tent is this?

8 (48m 8s):

This is tough stuff. Tough

Lightning (48m 10s):

Stuff. Okay. Yes.

8 (48m 11s):

Yeah, it’s a four person alpha hard top fold out.

Lightning (48m 16s):

And it’s on top of a what kind of rack?

8 (48m 18s):

Custom rack set up and I got a full basket set up on top. I got full lights all the way around. I think there is 21 pods. I got a full lighting unit all the way around.

Lightning (48m 30s):

Do you normally camp or is this a one-off?

8 (48m 32s):

No, I, I camp out everywhere as I go for the most part. Okay. It’s pretty rare. I hit up a hotel cheaper this way.

Lightning (48m 39s):

Well, yeah, you’ve got all the gear inside the, because you’ve got a lot of guys will have this on, on top of a rack, but you’ve got a, it’s not a snug top. What brand is this your shell?

8 (48m 49s):

It is an A R e.

Lightning (48m 51s):

A r e. Oh yeah. Yeah.

8 (48m 51s):

Great brand I wanted without the glass because I wanted something that was strong being that having weight up on top. So without the glass I figured it’d be stronger to support all the weight.

Lightning (49m 1s):

How many nights have you sped up in this thing? I think and By the way it’s like 10 feet off the ground.

8 (49m 5s):

It is actually, yeah, 10 feet now. I think I’m up to 45 I think. Nice.

Lightning (49m 11s):


8 (49m 11s):

45 I’m up to. Okay,

Lightning (49m 13s):

So at 10 feet you’re not going through a McDonald’s drive-through?

8 (49m 16s):

No. Or a Dunkin’s? Unfortunately.

Lightning (49m 18s):

By the way he’s got this, is this your shower or restroom or both? That’s my shower unit. That’s a shower unit. Oh, he is got a full bed tray in the back here. Okay. So, so is this a cargo glide? No beds slide

8 (49m 28s):

Bed Glide 1000. Bed

Lightning (49m 30s):

Glide 1000. He’s got all of his essentials on here. Water, fuel toolbox jack, everything on this bed slide. All fluid. Easily accessible. I’ve

8 (49m 39s):

Got all the fluids in case I break down. I can do my full oil change all the way to gear oil transmission transfer case. I try to bring anything ’cause as long as I got it, hopefully I don’t need it. And

Lightning (49m 51s):

I like how your spare tire carrier on the back folds down. He’s got a spare that is in the receiver and it just folds right down so the beds slide doesn’t hit it. You’ve got almost a foot of clearance here. Yep.

8 (50m 3s):

That was the plan. I’m hoping to put it inside at some point, but 40 inch tires kind of hard to just put somewheres on a truck. Yeah.

Lightning (50m 10s):

And I see you’ve also got Bill Steins under there. How do you like ’em? I love

8 (50m 13s):

’em. I wish they were resis like my old foxes, but they ride very comfortably though.

Lightning (50m 18s):

I’m excited to see it in the daylight. Oh, I didn’t even realize that’s a hard top on your alpha tent. Yes.

8 (50m 24s):

Yep. Those are all the places I’ve been so far. Look

Lightning (50m 27s):

At all those stickers. Delaware. I can’t read ’em. It’s dark out. Did

Holman (50m 31s):

You give him a truck show podcast sticker to stick on there? Sure. Since he’s now been on the show. Did All. right? Did

Lightning (50m 37s):

So are you one of the biggest trucks on the road in your area?

8 (50m 40s):

I would, I would say that being a mobile daily that actually moves around. Yeah. I, by far we build SEMA trucks at high caliber motorsports. We build everything. But when it comes to a daily, I, I’m the only thing up there this big. It’s nice, but it’s awkward. I think the cops got used to me and they usually just, so

Lightning (51m 4s):

Were you getting a lot of tickets in the beginning or no?

8 (51m 7s):

No. Shockingly they usually just kind of fall behind me, take pictures and then they just go around me. I think they just realize I’m just, just passing through or just behaving on the road, trying not to make anoints myself.

Lightning (51m 19s):

And were you up on Toyos Nittos? What are these? What what what? The Furies Fury. Fury

8 (51m 24s):

Forties. They’re 1350s and 20 fours. How

Lightning (51m 27s):

Do you like the Furies?

8 (51m 29s):

At first I was nervous. I was running Toyos at one point, but of course they’re pretty pricey. So when I switched from 30 fives to forties, I was told by Furies. I got a set of four of ’em and we got ’em dialed in there. I like ’em. They run Are

Lightning (51m 45s):

They noisy?

8 (51m 46s):

They are actually pretty smooth compared to Toyos for noise wise. They actually wear very well. They are balloon tires. After 120 she gets a little light, but Right. They are very nice tires. I’m impressed by what they designed. hold

Lightning (52m 3s):

On a second. After 120, you shouldn’t be going over 120 in this thing. Colo.

8 (52m 7s):

Well, this truck is also the first truck in history to be part of a supercar rally race known as the midnight run. We raise money for St. Jude’s and it’s usually supercar race.

Lightning (52m 17s):

You’ve got a five three. It’s not supercharged. So how are you keeping up?

8 (52m 23s):

All about the gears.

Lightning (52m 25s):

Interesting. What did you gear this with?

8 (52m 27s):

Four. These are four 80 eights. Okay. Full locker

Lightning (52m 32s):

Holman. Is it, is it legit? It’s not possible. Right.

Holman (52m 35s):

He’s not going with four 80 eights. Even on forties. The five three’s not pushing 120. There’s no way. And there’s no way he got 16 miles per gallon ever in the history of that truck.

Lightning (52m 44s):

Yes. Not, not, not with a five three.

Holman (52m 45s):

He doesn’t have his Speedo calibrated or something. There’s wonkiness. Nobody

Lightning (52m 49s):

Would be the opposite of it because he’s got would say that wasn going slower than he is. Listen,

Holman (52m 53s):

Whatever it is, you know, but he re geared so you’d have to do the whole math on regear versus tire size. And I don’t really feel like going through that. But I’m telling you I haven’t, I’ve never seen the truck. It’s not getting 16 miles per gallon. 13 maybe. But it ain’t going 120. No,

Lightning (53m 8s):

There’s no way. It’s doing 120. What are

Holman (53m 10s):

Those tires speed rated at?

Lightning (53m 12s):

I don’t, 65, 70 miles an hour. Just,

Holman (53m 16s):


8 (53m 17s):

42 is at one point. And 35 is when I first entered for the midnight run. Okay. Top speed of that night was 136 miles an hour on a nine inch lift.

Lightning (53m 28s):

Oh my Lord.

Holman (53m 29s):

There’s downhill. I

Lightning (53m 31s):

Don’t, it’s with a five three.

Holman (53m 32s):

There’s on

Lightning (53m 33s):

A nine inch lift with

Holman (53m 34s):

No on a Silverado. This

Lightning (53m 35s):

Guy was awesome and super nice.

Holman (53m 37s):

No, I believe he

Lightning (53m 37s):

Is. I I don’t know how his Speedo was so off. I

Holman (53m 40s):

Don’t know how he’s getting those numbers. I mean, that’s like me saying, oh, I was driving out to Moab and I did

Lightning (53m 48s):

130 miles per gallon,

Holman (53m 49s):

140 miles per gallon or 140 miles per hour in the 3 92 and I got 20 miles per gallon doing it. It’s just not believable. Like maybe he is, maybe he has the fish carburetor or he added some of those like, like eco pills in there or something like that. And all of a sudden he’s got the world’s most efficient small block. But like, maybe if he’s like, well it’s a six liter, I I wanna love him. I I I I think he’s,

Lightning (54m 14s):

Because I feel like he’s kind of our people. He is but he’s fringe. He’s fringe people.

Holman (54m 18s):

Yeah. He’s the guy who,

Lightning (54m 20s):

Is he an edge case?

Holman (54m 21s):

He’s an edge case.

Lightning (54m 23s):

Stock breaks.

8 (54m 25s):

Well, I had slotted and drilled. We went back to stock for now. I’m getting ready to figure out if I want to

Lightning (54m 32s):

Need a big willwood setup. The TX six R

8 (54m 35s):

Something. Yeah. Yeah. That’s the only kind downfall right now of this build is breaking. I have to be aware. But

Lightning (54m 43s):

Have you weighted

8 (54m 45s):

As of how it sits? Before I had left, I’m sitting at just about

Lightning (54m 49s):

What do you think he weighs

Holman (54m 51s):

A thousand pounds with the performance he’s cleaning.

Lightning (54m 54s):


Holman (54m 54s):

I mean

8 (54m 54s):

8,800 pounds.

Lightning (54m 56s):

8,800. Yeah. Which is

8 (54m 58s):

Quite a bit for only a half ton. There’s

Lightning (54m 59s):

No way. So this will be a word of advice. I’m a Willwood fan. I’m kind of a willed homer, I’m not gonna lie. I had a dually, I had a 2008. None of

Holman (55m 7s):

This makes sense.

Lightning (55m 7s):

Dually Chevy with a durmax, with a roof rack with everything you can bolt on it. I was up on a set of 20 fours on forties and I was at 10,100 pounds. And after the Willwood we trimmed the 60 to zero by 11 feet. 11 feet, 60 to zero with that truck. So that’s a big deal. That

8 (55m 29s):

Is a big deal. Yeah. I’m adding on right now with how I’m sitting. That’s, I’m probably adding That’s

Holman (55m 34s):

Half a car length.

Lightning (55m 36s):

It’s still, that’s

Holman (55m 37s):

Half a car

Lightning (55m 37s):

Length. It’s, it’s killing a person half as much. That’s, that’s what it is.

Holman (55m 41s):

Half a car

Lightning (55m 41s):

Length. I killed the people in the backseat, but not the people in the front seat as I rear end them. That’s,

Holman (55m 46s):

And let me guess, you have, obviously, you’re talking about your old dually. Yeah. What was the fastest you ever got it up to

Lightning (55m 54s):

The dually? Yeah. Mm. Low nineties.

Holman (56m 2s):

Did it have more?

Lightning (56m 3s):

Oh yeah.

Holman (56m 4s):

Yeah. It didn’t have 120 miles per hour. More though.

Lightning (56m 6s):

N Oh No? No, it would have done probably 1 0 5. Yeah.

Holman (56m 14s):

With way more power.

Lightning (56m 16s):

Yeah. Oh, I was, I was at 635 Horse to the wheels. Yeah. I with water meth.

Holman (56m 21s):

Just saying

Lightning (56m 22s):

Super tuned. Big Garrett turbo.

Holman (56m 24s):

I got it. I got it. I’m just saying.

Lightning (56m 25s):

Yeah. You had enough of that guy. Nice guy.

Holman (56m 28s):

No, I, I just, I just, I don’t believe him. That’s all. I haven’t had enough I mean I’m, I don’t wanna, I don’t want to shorten his experience on The Truck Show Podcast. I, I love his storytelling, but I also know trucks really well and it’s just, I’ve got the shena light going off in the back of my mind. So

Lightning (56m 46s):

All you can hear is

Holman (56m 48s):

No, no, no. It’s just a warning light. It’s flashing. We’re

9 (56m 51s):

Sorry the number you have dialed. No, it’s not in service at this

Holman (56m 54s):

Time. Again, it’s just, it’s just try again. No, it’s just the console’s just got a flashing red light. Well maybe it’s a good

10 (57m 0s):

Time for me to mention that parents with small children

Holman (57m 2s):

Listening. No, not that also. No, no, no.

11 (57m 5s):

This place

Holman (57m 5s):

Blows. It would if you’re doing 120 and 8,800 pound half ton. So

Lightning (57m 9s):

What you’re saying is that

11 (57m 10s):

Ain’t true. That’s not true. So get your facts

Holman (57m 16s):

Straight. I’m not saying it like that. Not yelling at the kid. So

Lightning (57m 20s):

What you’re saying is you’re

12 (57m 21s):

Not wrong, you’re just maybe less than Right.

Holman (57m 26s):

I mean that’s accurate. I think

Lightning (57m 29s):

What really what you’re saying is you are

11 (57m 31s):

A lying sack of shit.

Holman (57m 33s):

No, no, no. I just think his gauges are off. That’s all. That’s all I’m saying. You’re

Lightning (57m 38s):

Saying you

13 (57m 38s):

Get nothing, you lose Good day, sir.

Holman (57m 43s):

No, no. Not, not that either. Just I’m just saying that he might be being fed false information from his gages. That’s got it. That’s it. Got.

Lightning (57m 51s):

So then Holman, I rolled up on a dude that had a T R X on slicks and I said what? He’s parked in the Diesel shop booth. Mm. And I was rapping with Enrique who owns the Diesel shop down there in South Florida. And they’re like the go-to guys for diesels. And I say, what’s a T R X doing here? I thought Oh No, please don’t tell me it’s Diesel swat. That’d be ridiculous. It wasn’t. But at one time that wasn the fastest T R X. It’s not anymore. Steve Ripa apparently has it with a supercharged twin turbo. That’s for another story.

Holman (58m 25s):

You know what I’ve, okay. Yep. But

Lightning (58m 27s):

This guy was rad and I had to talk to him. Lighting from Truck Show podcast. What’s your name?

14 (58m 32s):

Raval Valdez.

Lightning (58m 33s):

Nice to meet you. Going brother. So I hear that this T R X is yours. Yes sir. Tell me about it.

14 (58m 38s):

It’s 21 T R X.

Lightning (58m 41s):

Sounds like I’m in the middle of Mardi Gras, doesn’t it? What?

14 (58m 45s):

Ported blower, upper pulley, lower pulley injectors. Headers,

Lightning (58m 50s):

Nitrous. Little

14 (58m 50s):

Bit of nitrous. Yeah. Nitrous outlet. Got a two 50 shot on it right now.

Lightning (58m 54s):

Okay. Yeah. Now I’m told that this is currently the fastest T R X in the country. Is that true? Because there’s a couple of guys all vying for that title right now?

14 (59m 3s):

No, actually the fastest ones right now is a rip platoon. They just got it about two weekends ago. Ah, okay.

Lightning (59m 9s):


14 (59m 9s):

Two turbo setup. Yes. Badass truck. You know,

Lightning (59m 12s):

So are you gonna, you trying to beat it? Oh

14 (59m 13s):

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We’re coming for them brother. Yeah. You know, we just, we got the crazy weather down here, you know, so like, I’m running in 1800 DA 2000 da. So we’re gonna try to do some traveling and get some of that cool way, you know, cool air and

Lightning (59m 26s):

Yeah. ’cause the humidity. Yeah. Crowds out all the oxygen. Yeah. Then you got the high temps. Wow. Yeah. You’re, you’re working, you’re starting at a deficit. Yeah.

14 (59m 34s):

Yeah. So we’re gonna, you know, we’ve made a little, couple little changes now and we’re gonna get back on the horse, you know. Okay. So we were ironing out some issues I had with the nitrous. So we had a bad ground issue and then that fried my nitrous controller. So since January, every time I’ve gone to the track, we’ve been like issu, you know, we just figured it all out. Okay. And so now we’re gonna get back on the horse and, you know, chasing good

Lightning (59m 57s):

Weather now. Stock internals.

14 (59m 58s):

Stock internals. Yeah. Built trans. Really? I, I broke the tra last year in January, actually in Orlando. Speed World broke the ad drum. So it has a billet parts in it, but it’s still a factory trans just, you know, built a little bit stronger. Okay. Simple speed. And trans did that still stock motor. And we finally got to it last week before streetcar takeover. And she made 11 47, 1229 foot pounds of torque on the two 50 to

Lightning (1h 0m 26s):

The wheels, to

14 (1h 0m 26s):

The Wheel on the 30 fives. Not even on the slicks. ’cause when we first got the truck, I’ve always diner it on the stock tires. So the big, big 30 fives, they, they take a lot of power. So I wanted to make sure everything was still fine. We threw the 30 fives back on and made eight 30 blower only and picked up three 11 on a two 50 pill. So super excited about that. Holy

Lightning (1h 0m 45s):

Man. Cool. Now, yeah, tell me about the tire setup. It’s slick. So you’re running Hoosiers? Yep.

14 (1h 0m 49s):

Hoosiers 3 25 45 18. It’s kind of the standard set about everyone’s running pretty much, it’s like the biggest tire we can find, you know. So the T R X with the brakes. The issue is we can’t put a 17 inch Wheel ’cause not I would’ve ran a 17 inch Wheel, you know, but eighteens this is the biggest tire I can find. And although

Lightning (1h 1m 6s):

Willwood, oh, I hope I’m not spoiling anything. Will Wood’s working on a kit for this? So you can fit a 17, huh?

14 (1h 1m 12s):

Sign me up.

Lightning (1h 1m 13s):

I think it’s their Arrow DMM kit. You’ll have to call Mike Hamrick. Hey Mike, are you listening? This is a guy who wants your 17 inch arrow DMM kit. Yeah,

14 (1h 1m 20s):

I’m actually waiting on Black Ops. Che is the guy’s name, actually, they’re a Florida company as well. They’re working with Swift Springs. We’re supposedly having the first set of lowering Springs made for the T R X. So that’s gonna be,

Lightning (1h 1m 33s):

I would if, if they don’t come through, knock on the door of ibo

14 (1h 1m 37s):

Ibo. Okay. Yeah. I’m, I’m looking for anybody We’re willing to do

Lightning (1h 1m 40s):

Whatever they’re aware now of the situation. I had a conversation with their marketing director and said, yeah, there’s a bunch of us. You guys need to, there’s a bunch of us that, there’s a lot of guys. Yeah. There are more TXs I think on drag strips than in the desert. Correct?

14 (1h 1m 52s):

I I, I think so. You know, it’s, you don’t have to wash the truck as much after you’re done drag racing. You know, you go mudding, you know, that’s a good three, four hour, you know, washing process. You gotta really love it. And I’m in Miami, there’s nowhere to go Offroad or over here, you know? Right. I get that all the time. I oh, you got the wrong, you know, tool for the listen man. I was like, if I had a desert to go pre-run in, I’d be doing that. But

Lightning (1h 2m 12s):

I’m surprised that you don’t have the Whipple three liter blower on here.

14 (1h 2m 17s):

Well, you know, I have a, a broken heart when it comes to that, that touchy subject. So,

Lightning (1h 2m 22s):

Oh really what happened,

14 (1h 2m 23s):

I was the first one to officially order the three liter Whipple. The first one, T r X. Like the day they were like, Hey, we’re doing this. I called them up, I’m like, Hey, I’m the guy, they gimme a three liter I, at the time, I was the fastest. And I was like, we’re gonna keep that. They send me that three liter and they’re like, okay, you know, put the order in and then you’re gonna be like the first one to get it and it’s gonna be like three or four months. And that just, just became the worst ordeal ever. Like every two, three weeks that wasn all two more weeks, three more weeks, we’re sending you a shipping and then all the container, it’s stuck on the port and then the powder coating and that wasn just a bunch of stories. And then finally in December, I just told them, You know what? I don’t even want the damn thing no more. Like, forget it.

14 (1h 3m 3s):

So I just filled up, I said more nitrous man. So no Whipple truck has gone faster than me yet. All. right? Yeah. And we’re, you know,

Lightning (1h 3m 10s):

By the way that’s a great supercharger. Yeah, yeah. It is a great supercharger.

14 (1h 3m 14s):

It’s, it’s ported by Kong. She makes eight 30 blower only. I got 16,000 miles on the ported blower. And we thought, you know, she was maybe a little tired or something. I’ve, I’ve, I’ve at least a hundred bottles of nitrous have gone through this thing. This is my race car Oh. really?

Lightning (1h 3m 26s):

Okay. This is, is it a, is it a daily as well or No,

Holman (1h 3m 29s):

A hundred bottles of nitrous have gone through that engine. You haven’t even had a hundred bottles of Metamucil. What’s that supposed to mean? You’re just getting up in age and regularity is a issue. I don’t even know what that means. You will?

14 (1h 3m 46s):

No, no, no. It used to be my daily and then you know how that goes. So now I got the new daily for the daily, but

Lightning (1h 3m 52s):

What’s the do daily? I gotta know

14 (1h 3m 54s):

22 F four 50.

Lightning (1h 3m 55s):

Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

14 (1h 3m 56s):

Yeah. You know, I, I was gonna do the, I was gonna tow it when I broke the transmission Orlando, that was when I decided, okay, I need a daily, because I was four and a half, four hours from my house, had a broken transmission and I had a truck and a trailer to get home and a broken truck. Ouch. So I was like, okay, you know, we’re gonna have to figure something out. And thank God Sipple John Sipple, he was out there. They, I never had met him. First time I met the guy, some guys in the Hellcat community, they’re like, Hey, go over to this guy’s trailer. Knock on his door. He,

Lightning (1h 4m 22s):

He’s like, what Mr. Hellcat,

14 (1h 4m 24s):

He does all the transmissions. Like he does performance transmissions. Okay. Trans out of North Carolina or South Carolina in the Carolinas. Okay, don’t kill me on that, John. Sorry. And I went over to his trailer and he’s like, look, I’m gonna check something out. You know, we might be able to get you on the road. We might not. He put the, the truck on the computer, he’s like, All, right kid, good news is what broke is broke. But you do have first, third, fifth, and seventh. So

Lightning (1h 4m 49s):

He was like, oh, so you can limp it.

14 (1h 4m 50s):

He’s like, Hey, if you drive to the gas station, you feel comfortable. He’s like, you can drive this home. So I literally drove to the gas station and I’m like, Hey, as long as I changed the gears and skip the gears, I’ll get there. You know? Okay. So I drove my three and a half hour ride. Seventh gear, cruise control, 2000 mile, you know, 2000 R p m made it back home, no problem. And then I put the truck on a flatbed, send it to Sipple, you know, he was a nice guy. He didn’t have to do that. And he gave me the full blown billet stuff, you know, converter. She’s ready for war. He’s like, you’re never gonna break this one. So now you know, I got the built motor at home.

Lightning (1h 5m 23s):

Oh, so you got a built motor that’s gonna go in this now? Oh yeah. Yeah.

14 (1h 5m 26s):

Fully built four 11 M M X ported heads. Big cam. We’re gonna keep stock blower. 500 shot of nitrous. We’re just up in the nitrous.

Lightning (1h 5m 34s):

A 500 shot of nitrous.

14 (1h 5m 35s):

500 shot of nitrous. You’re gonna dance a little bit, you know.

Lightning (1h 5m 38s):

So what happens? I I, I gotta know you’re going down the track. When do you squeeze?

14 (1h 5m 43s):

I actually have it on a timer base setup right now. Okay. So I have it on a one and a half second timer. So as I leave, it starts at zero and then in one and a half seconds I get the full two 50. And then it’s just hold on. And it’s all pedal activated. Safety switches and all that stuff. Now

Lightning (1h 5m 60s):

All Wheel drive. All the time. All wheels. Yep. Right. It’s gonna go straight as an arrow unless something breaks. Right.

14 (1h 6m 5s):

I’ve done 1 4, 6 60 foot at 6,331 pounds will be in it a lot. I got, here’s the thing, this is the real tricky part. Everyone claims weight, but no one’s been on a scale. Okay. Like the last one that went like a 9, 7, 9 6. Those guys said they were 6,300 pounds. It’s hard to believe. Okay. They got no bumpers, no exhaust. You know this, I just took out the passenger seat, it’s in there now. But I took out the passenger for the last event to weigh it. And with me in the truck, I got it down to 61 80. So there’s, there’s potential there. You know, I feel like if I could break into the five thousands, 59.99. And that’s my recipe to get the record back stock motor.

14 (1h 6m 46s):

Okay. Because power wise, I believe we’re there. I just gotta bring in the nitrous a little bit earlier and let her eat.

Lightning (1h 6m 52s):

Who did the tuning?

14 (1h 6m 53s):

D s M lights. Okay. I’ve been with him. He’s down in South Florida. I reached out to a couple other big name guys and they’re, they’re just kind of busy. And I, I, I know the type of guy I am All. right. I need that traction support. You know, I’m calling 10 times a day. I call you when I get to the track, I’m sending 10 logs. You know, like I, I need, I need my, my my time. You know. So I went with my local tuner and 22,000 miles original motor, bombing it with a two 50. And she’s to get holding together so he knows what he’s doing. You know. Nice. That’s my man. What do you got here? This our Niru controller right here. This is what sets up all the fun. You know, we’ve got different type of ramps, I believe since I was on the dyno last. This is a, yeah, this is r p m base.

14 (1h 7m 33s):

You see it coming in, you know, that’s how I got the nitrous coming in. When it goes all the way to the top, that’s, you know, full 200. So right here, I don’t got it spray until 5,000 RRP m the whole two 50. That’s all the stuff we get to play with at the track. You know, we bring it in earlier. So,

Lightning (1h 7m 46s):

And this and this red button down here.

14 (1h 7m 47s):

This red button. Oh, this is the fun button right here. That’s the

Lightning (1h 7m 49s):


14 (1h 7m 50s):

Oh, nice. Yeah. Big purge

Lightning (1h 7m 52s):

Button. Right. Fun button. Yeah.

14 (1h 7m 55s):

So I got ’em out coming out through the vents right here, you know. Yeah, I

Lightning (1h 7m 57s):

Saw that in the gills. Yep. I

14 (1h 7m 59s):

Used to have it coming out the hood. Right. But I hated how it looked when the hood was up. So if you look at any of the pictures ever in this truck since the day I got it, no pictures with the hood up. ’cause I hated how like, you know, it just looked messy, you know? It looked like a scrambled egg. So I just took it to my boy and I said, Hey, we gotta make, we gotta clean this up. I wanna show the people what they’re looking at, you know? ’cause people are like, oh, you’re hiding a big giant motor. Man. This thing came from Dodge like that man. Just a little bit of nitrous. That’s all. I’m on a stock fuel system still.

Lightning (1h 8m 27s):

Really? Yeah.

14 (1h 8m 28s):

Boost the pump. That’s it, man. I’m from Hialeah baby. We, we know. I love

Lightning (1h 8m 31s):

The fact that you’re kicking their asses and it’s so close to stock.

14 (1h 8m 35s):

Yeah. Like my game plan was, I knew I wasn’t gonna race this forever. Right. Like, my wife is like, dude, you’re you like, are you retarded? Like, well let’s go get a race car. You know, you’ll be more competitive. Right. But I had a 2019. I love

Lightning (1h 8m 47s):

The fact that your wife is clowning you. Yeah. Because

14 (1h 8m 49s):

She’s like, she understands. She’s like, okay, this is a tank I’m bringing. ’cause when I ran heavyweight last year in, in Monastery Heavy Shootout, I went farther in the heavyweight class, which is like the all out, you know, 2000 horsepower cars versus when I went like index racing, you know, ’cause those guys are on the money, the all out stuff is like, you know, you gotta bring it. And I went farther, you know, I was like, you know, I like fourth place I think last year in that. And I was like, man, this was the big tank. Once I eventually, I’m gonna put this into something lighter. If I, the guy that built this mo or my other motor, he told me in a, in a Mustang box body, you know, set up. Right. He’s like, dude, that’s a seven second ride with ac. You know? I’m like, damn, I’m over here struggling to run a, a low nine. You know? Yeah. So the weight is a big deal,

Lightning (1h 9m 28s):

But it’s a, it is, it’s a tank. It’s a 6,000 pound truck. But

14 (1h 9m 32s):

Also it’s something different, you know. And I started the, the, the, the pole was low, you know, like when I had the Hellcat, I wanted to go fast, but everybody already went fast. I got this in January of 19 to 21. I’m like, oh, I could be the fastest quick. So on the big o e m tires, completely stocked lower pull, 200 shot of nitrous injectors. I went 10 60 on the, on the factory tires. Like literally could’ve did that in a day’s time. You know, just throw a lower pulley on there. Yeah. And that was about the funnest trucks ever had. I was with the truck. ’cause I mean that wasn just so much fun. Big tires. And I got the slicks and you know, we started really eating away. But

Lightning (1h 10m 9s):

We’ve got the, the Diesel drag truck over here. Yeah. Making some noise in the background. What’s your zero to 60 time right now?

14 (1h 10m 15s):

So the fastest measured 62.4, but that was like on a nine 80 pass. 9 84 pass. Okay. So I’ve been nine 70 with a way better 60 foot. So I think she’s around 2 0 2 2 measured on the draggy. I’ve been 2.4. And then the funny thing with the T R X, this thing has so much lift, you know, so much suspension travel. When I put the draggy in the front of the truck, it’ll always not verify it because it says that there’s a slope. Oh. So now the cheat code is, I throw the drag in the back since the front doesn’t lift so much. Ah. And then it gets me the verified passes. So the fastest verified has been a two four. Okay. You know, zero to 60. But we know we’ve been faster on the street. That’s

Lightning (1h 10m 55s):

Still fast. Yeah. Did you understand what we was talking about there? So for those of you that don’t know what a draggy is, it’s a little G P Ss device about the size of, I don’t know, pack of cards. And it’s got a magnet on the bottom of it. Normally you just put on your dashboard or somewhere and it has to hit the sky. So it has G p s, it’s got an accelerometer inside and it just measures your zero to to 60 and you clock it, you, you record it to your phone, et cetera. Well, so he’s launching so hard that the truck tips back, it squats, it now can’t see the sky properly and it invalidates the run. So he had to move the device to the back so it would always see the sky. Alright, what’s your Instagram? So we can keep track of the truck as you go for the record again. 3 0 5

14 (1h 11m 33s):

T R x.

Lightning (1h 11m 34s):

Okay. At 3 0 5 T Rx. Yeah, she’s, so you’re gonna, you’re gonna steal the record from Steve Rippa.

14 (1h 11m 40s):

We’re gonna steal it back from Steve River All. right. She’s been nine 70 at one 40 on a 200 shot. We upped it up to two 50. We’re gonna let the mattress come in a little earlier. We’re taking the exhaust off, taking out some seats and so we’re coming back for them and we’re gonna do it, you know, like them in the good air. Nice

Lightning (1h 11m 57s):

All. right. We’re gonna be rooting for you. Thank you both at 3 0 5 T R x, sir. Nice to meet you. Thank you.

14 (1h 12m 3s):

Right on. Pleasure. Yep.

Lightning (1h 12m 4s):

All. right. So what do you think of my man Ray with a T R x?

Holman (1h 12m 7s):

I like it. It’s nice to see people really taking those things to the edge because that guy is literally about, oh, I’d say three quarters to a horsepower away from blowing that whole thing up to smithereens.

Lightning (1h 12m 18s):

He don’t

Holman (1h 12m 19s):

Care. I also like how he’s like, ah, I had the, the whip on order, but I’m doing all this on the stock blower and I’m still slaying people. Like doing the Lord’s work. Dude. Dude,

Lightning (1h 12m 28s):

He’s going for a 500 shot of nitrous. Yeah,

Holman (1h 12m 31s):

That’s a lot.

Lightning (1h 12m 32s):

500 horsepower.

Holman (1h 12m 33s):

That’s a lot. That’s a, that’s a lot. That’s what I mean. It’s gonna be interesting to see when his piston meets the asphalt because they will meet at some point. And

Lightning (1h 12m 44s):

My last recording from Florida, Truck Meet is checking in again with Jordan at Trucks Gone Wild All. right. So out at the tug of war, as you can hear in the background, there’s a Ram 2,500 and it’s about 10 feet off the ground. And then there’s a Chevy and they’re back to back and they’re pulling each other. Jordan, what is happening out here? What, what goes on in Florida?

Jordan (1h 13m 10s):

I don’t know. Just straight carnage. We just hook up the biggest trucks to the biggest trucks, pull ’em back and forth, see if something breaks. And by God it looks good.

Lightning (1h 13m 19s):

So there’s not really a winner. There’s just kinda like, they pull each other back and forth and back

Jordan (1h 13m 24s):

And forth. It’s like, it’s like w e you just, you enjoy the show. There

Lightning (1h 13m 29s):

You go. So this one is Stars and Stripes. He’s got c o two that he’s blowing out of the bottom. He’s

Jordan (1h 13m 34s):

About 15 feet tall from ground to

Lightning (1h 13m 36s):

Top. He’s creating his own smoke show here. Yep.

Jordan (1h 13m 39s):


Lightning (1h 13m 40s):

So these are giant mud trucks. Oh, he is pulling the other one, the Chevy is pulling the ramp way across. Oh my gosh.

Jordan (1h 13m 47s):

Into the dirt.

Lightning (1h 13m 48s):

It got the red light and he kept going. Good lord.

Jordan (1h 13m 52s):

Bunch of rednecks. I’ll tell you.

Lightning (1h 13m 54s):

Oh my gosh. This doesn’t exist where I’m from, my friend. And I’m sad about it.

Holman (1h 13m 59s):

I’ve identified at least four drops in the last 60 seconds of the truck

Lightning (1h 14m 2s):

Show. The thing is, we don’t have mud. Well, that’s not true this year. I was about to say, this year we have mud, have a bunch of mud. This year we have mud. But the problem is it’s in all the places that we can’t, you know, it’s like, it’s in Santa Monica and it’s in Malibu where we can can’t,

Jordan (1h 14m 17s):

There’s a bunch of needles floating in it. Yeah.

Lightning (1h 14m 21s):

Needles floating in. That’s sadly true. Yes. Yep. Do they declare a winner at the end of this? ’cause you’ve got all these matchups, so,

Jordan (1h 14m 29s):

And a little sense of the ways, yes, there is some trucks that go against each other for money or betts or side betts, stuff like that. For, for the most part it’s exhibition. Just going out there having fun, pulling each other back and forth. Put on a good show. But there are some guys in the pits that actually want to go after each other. So they, they do put some money down here and there.

Lightning (1h 14m 48s):

So then how do they decide it? Because if you just stand on your brakes, then it’s up to him to drag you. At what point does he let off the brakes and you’re like, I don’t really understand the dance.

Jordan (1h 14m 58s):

So there is a spotter in the passenger seat that is watching and there is some guys in the ground that tell him when to stop. When to go.

Lightning (1h 15m 4s):

So this event that you have, I don’t know, there’s 1500, 2500 people out here. Quite a few.

Jordan (1h 15m 12s):

Yeah. I’d say there’s a good bit out here.

Lightning (1h 15m 13s):

Yeah. And it’s free. Yeah. All free. So you paid for this event to go off. Yep. And it’s free to the community. Yep. We were

Jordan (1h 15m 20s):

Just, we wanted to give something for the people to come see and get local crowd out. We’re working on, you know, capitalizing on it in some other ways. But for the first year we just wanted to get it done. So I was worried about the surface. ’cause it’s asphalt with these big tires turning, we thought that the asphalt was gonna get torn up. So we thought maybe that it would get torn up and then we’d have to put down concrete. But it’s holding up quite well. So that’s one thing we don’t have to have to deal with now.

Lightning (1h 15m 45s):

Well this is an amazing event. Thank you for putting it on. I think the crowd is having a great time. Trucks gone. Wilds staff has been very accommodating and informative and I’m, you’ve been pretty,

Jordan (1h 15m 54s):

Pretty cool yourself. You know, you’ve been camping out with us, bringing us some beer. You brought me food

Lightning (1h 15m 58s):

I mean you saved me because I knew you were gonna die. Yep. You’ve been working all day without Eden. Yeah.

Jordan (1h 16m 3s):

Yeah. I work myself to the bone sometimes,

Lightning (1h 16m 6s):

But You know what the, the event has been awesome. The crowd has been having a great time. The showing of trucks is phenomenal. You got a great mix of lifted and lowered I mean it’s obviously heavy on the lifted side, but that’s how it’s advertised. Yep. But I, I found there was the 1960 Ford F five 50 that was started its life as a single cab short bed that wasn stretched to a dual cab long bed with a 24 valve Cummins. And that wasn on the ground and that wasn gorgeous. I shot some video of it, I’ll post it. That was a great truck. So you have, and there was a F one 50 on the ground that wasn out on the, the front straight. Really cool to see. Just anyway, a, a great mix of trucks out here.

Lightning (1h 16m 46s):

So congrats. Yeah,

Jordan (1h 16m 47s):

I’m really, I’m really trying to dive into the lowered side. I know that’s a different crowd than the Lifted guys. There’s always a little bit of animosity between those two worlds. But either way it’s all the same common, you know, thing between each other. We all like custom stuff, you know, we all like getting together and having shows. You gotta,

Lightning (1h 17m 2s):

You gotta love a truck. A truck is a truck You know what I mean. Yeah. There’s new like behind us. There are some beaters back here in the ton of war beaters, but they’re winning. I love it when the guy comes from behind, you expect that it’s just a pile of crap. And he tugs the, you know that 2223 know truck don’t be a sleeper and it just pulls somebody all the way to Timbuktu. That’s exactly right. All right? Yes sir. Ladies and gentlemen, truck show podcast at Florida Truck Meet. That’s how we do

Holman (1h 17m 28s):


Lightning (1h 17m 31s):

Thank you to Jordan and Patrick for having me out there. Really appreciate it. They’re super accommodating you. You up for some news. Mr. Holman.

Holman (1h 17m 39s):

Oh. my God. There’s so much news.

16 (1h 17m 42s):

What’s new in trucks? We need the news. What’s new in trucks? We need to know what’s new in trucks. We need to

3 (1h 17m 51s):

Know lifted, lowered and everything in between. What’s happening in the world of

Lightning (1h 17m 57s):

Trucks? Ah, that’s soaking. Hey

Holman (1h 18m 2s):

Lighting. Did you hear? I don’t watch

17 (1h 18m 4s):

The news. I’m a kid.

Lightning (1h 18m 8s):

Go ahead. What you got

Holman (1h 18m 9s):

For you Toyota Tacoma fans out there. Toyota continues to troll the new Tacoma pickup truck on their Instagram page. So if you want to see what they’re up to, the latest drop includes the trail hunter, which shows the rear threequarter view with an a r b rear bumper from the factory. As well as a trail hunter badge on the, on the tailgate. And if the spy photos are accurate, looks like it also come with a roof rack. The all new 2024 Toyota Tomo Trail Hunter should be I believe some more information in May about the actual product that might know more Zoom thing, something.

Holman (1h 18m 55s):

That’s all I’m gonna tell you. So

Lightning (1h 18m 56s):

What you’re saying is it’s under embargoed

Holman (1h 19m 0s):

For now. It’s embargoed, although there’s a lot we can glean from these images. Like the headlights have a little eliminated trail hunter in there now. T R D Pro is more for the go fast desert pre-runner crowd. Trail hunter is supposed to be for the overland crowd. So the fact that they’ve partnered with a R b on bumpers is, is telling a r b is an Australian company that’s makes some of the best overlanding products in the world and Toyota has not missed that. Cliff note they are, looks like they’re actively in a relationship with a r b. So we will, we’ll know more soon, but it looks, it looks pretty sweet so far. I mean it kind of looks like a Tacoma. Yeah, if you mix a current Tacoma in the new Tundra, that’s what the new Tacoma looks like.

Lightning (1h 19m 43s):

I will say that on the groups because I’m in a few of them. Man. They’re excited. They their panties are in a bunch. Yeah.

Holman (1h 19m 49s):

’cause they haven’t had a new truck since 2005

Lightning (1h 19m 51s):

And they know it. Yeah, and they know it.

Holman (1h 19m 53s):

It’ll be interesting to see what the truck offers. I know there’s some other, there’s that wasn A T R D pro tailgate shot and it had the, I force max badging on it, which tells you that the hybrid is coming as well because that’s similar to what is in the tundra. But I’m guessing it’ll be the four cylinder version. Not the six cylinder version. So,

Lightning (1h 20m 14s):

So I know a dude has a T R D Pro hybrid,

Holman (1h 20m 16s):

Which you mean the T r D pro because it says t r d pro and giant letters on the airbag cover on the passenger side a little bit.

Lightning (1h 20m 23s):

He had a little loud

Holman (1h 20m 25s):


Lightning (1h 20m 25s):

A little loud. So, so, so get this, he had a can bus error and it locked his gas door shut.

Holman (1h 20m 32s):

That’s, that’s

Lightning (1h 20m 34s):

Dumb. Isn’t that the craziest thing?

Holman (1h 20m 35s):

Why, why would you do things like that? You shouldn’t. That’s like, you know the Mercedes and was It Tesla, some of ’em had like the door handle issues. Yeah, it’s like no, you’re, you’re done.

Lightning (1h 20m 45s):

They, they’ve removed the cable. Apparently it’s a push button. Like so many of the modern cars, you know, Mercedes, you push the button electronically, it pops it out. Toyota did that. Apparently. I haven’t seen it with my eyes, but he goes, I was locked outta my gas door. I had to go under inside the, the, the fender well and find the, the emergency pole handle. That’s,

Holman (1h 21m 7s):


Lightning (1h 21m 7s):

Just you locked outs from his, from fuel gas.

Holman (1h 21m 10s):

It’s not right. It’s not right. Hey lighting, did you hear? No.

Lightning (1h 21m 16s):

Nope. Chevrolet

Holman (1h 21m 17s):

Has announced that the new Silverado ZR two is now available with the three liter Diesel before that wasn only available with the 6.2 liter V eight. And now for those of you who want to have a performance oriented suspension, you can get it with the Diesel as

Lightning (1h 21m 33s):

Well. That’s great news man. I should get back on that whole thing about making a derringer tuner for that truck. Gee,

Holman (1h 21m 40s):

I wonder why. Hmm. Because it’s the only Diesel truck that’ll be around soon. Hey Lightning, did you hear?

Lightning (1h 21m 45s):

Wait a minute, did you hear what Holman just said? It’s the only Diesel truck that’ll be around soon

Holman (1h 21m 49s):


Lightning (1h 21m 50s):

Light duty. ’cause the eco diesel’s going away.

Holman (1h 21m 51s):

Diesel’s gone. The Ford’s gone name another Lightning duty Diesel that’s out there. I

Lightning (1h 21m 56s):

Can, well not in this country, but I can. Well I

Holman (1h 21m 59s):

I’m not talking, I don’t live in another country.

Lightning (1h 22m 1s):


Holman (1h 22m 2s):

And it doesn’t matter.

Lightning (1h 22m 4s):

No, I have not heard. No.

Holman (1h 22m 6s):

Chevrolet has also announced that the first ever Chevrolet Silverado HD ZR two is coming to market. Yes,

Lightning (1h 22m 15s):

Yes, yes, yes.

Holman (1h 22m 17s):

Designed to tow, haul and tackle the trails. The new Chevrolet Silverado HD Z R two gets the race proven Multimatic D S S V dampers a factory lift and a lot more for Chevy’s heavy duty off-road pickup truck. So that

Lightning (1h 22m 32s):

Is outstanding. So now the

Holman (1h 22m 33s):

Zero two family is complete. You can get an HD two, you can get a Colorado zero two and you get a light duty 1500 0 2. But best of all, the Silverado HD Z two will also have a bison variant, which means that all the a e v goodies and bumpers and whatnot, they’ll be on the, on the heavy duty as well.

Lightning (1h 22m 56s):

Holman, have you been in a new 2024 hd?

Holman (1h 23m 1s):

I have not.

Lightning (1h 23m 2s):

I just picked one up from a customer last night. Drove to the high desert, picked one up. According to this customer, there are only two Sierra Denali, 3,500 ultimates in the state of California. I picked one up last night when you’re hearing this a few days ago. And it is the quietest truck I’ve been in. I accidentally did 98 miles an hour without knowing it three times because there is so much freaking power. It’s over 900 pound feet of torque stock. 470 horsepower. Except for this one thing.

Lightning (1h 23m 42s):

I love the truck. What do you think that thing is?

Holman (1h 23m 45s):

I have no idea.

Lightning (1h 23m 48s):

The steering Wheel and the instrument cluster are not centered.

Holman (1h 23m 55s):

It’s been like that for like the last four years. It’s

Lightning (1h 23m 57s):


Holman (1h 23m 58s):


Lightning (1h 23m 59s):

It’s worse.

Holman (1h 23m 60s):

What do you mean it’s worse?

Lightning (1h 24m 1s):

The center stack is so wide, they pushed the, your instrument cluster to the left. It’s weird. It’s so weird.

Holman (1h 24m 12s):

It’s, it’s the same. It’s, it’s so it’s the same dash that they debuted last year.

Lightning (1h 24m 17s):

I’m telling you that I haven’t been in one and I couldn’t get over it. And then I sent a picture to the customer. He goes, I didn’t notice it. I hope you didn’t ruin my truck for me.

Holman (1h 24m 27s):

You probably did. I

Lightning (1h 24m 29s):

Don’t. It is so bizarre and awkward feeling I’d have to see it. I couldn’t get over it and I drove it for an hour in traffic last night. I

Holman (1h 24m 36s):

Would have to, I would’ve to see that. Going back to the Z two family, which is the version that’s not out yet. How about this exclusively in 2,500 crew cab configuration with the standard 6.6 liter gas or 6.6 liter duramax. The HD Z two and HD Z two bison will come with all sorts of goodies. How about this max payload for HD zero two is 3,397 pounds. Max trailering is 18,500 pounds with the duramax. And these are some things that you’re gonna get with it. You get a zero two family front grill. You get unique Wheel opening moldings featuring integrated mud guards zero two badging on the grill bar in high stance, further strengthening the HD Z R twos image according to Chevy.

Holman (1h 25m 24s):

Both trucks now have a flow tie. The suspension gets a 1.5 inch lift front and rear. And in addition to the multimatic D S S V dampers, you get specific front, upper and lower control arms and steering knuckles, larger steel transfer case skid plates, and a front aluminum skid plate. A rear E locker and check this out. 35 inch tires from the factory on HD something GM hasn’t done yet. Wow. That truck looks absolutely freaking burly. If

Lightning (1h 25m 53s):

You combine this 24 that I was in last night with the ZR two and or bison package, that is the dopest truck on the road. I’m telling you, this is the smoothest shift. I bet. Listen, you know, I spent thousands of miles in our 20 Denali. This was better. This was, my god, it just got up to,

Holman (1h 26m 16s):

Well I hope it rides better because zero

Lightning (1h 26m 18s):

To 60 was just f

Holman (1h 26m 19s):

Chevy hasn’t done a great job of making that I f S HD truck ride. Well it

Lightning (1h 26m 23s):

Didn’t chatter. So our 20 chattered a little bit right in the steering. You can feel it. I didn’t, I didn’t, you know, I wasn’t gonna a really rough roads. I was on the highway, albeit, but like man, I, I was really impressed.

Holman (1h 26m 34s):

So there’s also a new Offroad mode which incorporates learnings from these zero two Colorado and Silverado when engaged to adjust various vehicle calibrations such as the brakes, track control, stability control, optimizing them for trail driving and in addition, offered mode alters the throttle progression and trans shifts. And the locking rear axle does not have a speed limitation, which you gotta love. The AAV collaboration basically takes all the goodness of the HD zero two adds exclusive gloss black 18 inch AV wheels, distinctive cut high approach stamp steel front bumpers with integrated recovery points and winch provisions. Unique stamp steel cut rear bumper with recovery points, tough stamp steel underbody skid plates for the front of the vehicle, steering rack, exhaust and transfer case.

Holman (1h 27m 14s):

And then bison models also receive unique exterior badging and other cues include the AAV logo on the front seat and head restraints. And then of course all of the normal 2024 upgrades are going to also be applied to the H D Z R two and HD Z R two bison. Things like the dur bed cargo box, the 120 volt power outlet and the available six position multiflex tailgates. So that truck is probably going to be really, really, really, really expensive.

Lightning (1h 27m 46s):

What do you think that the sticker and I know because he left it in the glove box. The truck when I picked it up last night was 93 last night when I picked it up, it had 1,553 miles on it. The guy put a lot of miles on it in two weeks. He owns a junkyard apparently. Super cool young dude. 26 year old owns this truck. $99,000.

Holman (1h 28m 6s):

Yeah, I believe it.

Lightning (1h 28m 8s):

Nine. It’s the z Sierra Denali Ultimate. And he says so

Holman (1h 28m 11s):

HD Z R two will be over a hundred.

Lightning (1h 28m 13s):

So the bison.

Holman (1h 28m 14s):


Lightning (1h 28m 14s):

Yeah, I, I believe that. A couple things that disappointed me about this truck and I don’t know if it’s an option. He said this was optioned out, you couldn’t get any higher. It doesn’t have a, a panoramic roof. It’s got a little tiny sunroof. What’s up with that? I don’t think

Holman (1h 28m 27s):

You can get a panoramic on the big Chevys.

Lightning (1h 28m 30s):

Yeah, that was weird. Hmm. You can get it on all the Rams and the Fords, but not on the Chevy. That was a, that was a little bit of a letdown. And then the other thing that I didn’t like was that you cannot put it in any gear unless what?

Holman (1h 28m 46s):

The door is closed. Your

Lightning (1h 28m 48s):

Seatbelt is fastened.

Holman (1h 28m 49s):

There you go. Where are your seatbelt kids?

Lightning (1h 28m 52s):

That’s not, no, no that’s, that was not okay. I was just moving in from parking spot. This parking spot. Well gotta put my seatbelt on.

Holman (1h 28m 57s):

You have to do it safely the next time. Hey, did you hear? No. Nope. Additional GM news, the 24 Silverado with the 2.7 liter high output four cylinder gets a new name. It’s gonna be called Turbo max. Turbo max.

Lightning (1h 29m 13s):

Next story.

Holman (1h 29m 14s):

The 6.2 liter V eight will now have new active dual exhaust.

Lightning (1h 29m 18s):

Oh that’s cool. Which is pretty cool ’cause it’ll get loud hopefully.

Holman (1h 29m 21s):

And then you’ll be able to get a blackout package for the Silverado lineup. And a Silverado 1500 high country midnight edition is also gonna be available. So sounds like they’re, you know, they didn’t leave the, the lineup alone. Looks like there’s some meaningful changes for, for 23, which is pretty cool. Hey lighting, did you hear?

Lightning (1h 29m 40s):

No. Nope.

Holman (1h 29m 42s):

By the way, when I was in Moab, I got to sit in the brand new 2024 Wrangler. They had the Rubicon in both a four by E and a 3 92. Damn. That’s nice.

Lightning (1h 29m 54s):

Which one has better acceleration? I

Holman (1h 29m 58s):

3 8 2 joke.

Lightning (1h 29m 59s):

Okay. By How much, but

Holman (1h 30m 1s):

A lot Oh. really? Yeah. It’s not close. Probably a couple seconds because

Lightning (1h 30m 5s):

I was you you borrowed the four x e. Yeah, and we were driving around and I was fairly

Holman (1h 30m 9s):

Impressed. A four x e grand Cherokee is faster than the V eight, the five seven, but not, but a wrangler’s not faster than the six two. Okay. Now the thing that I was really impressed with was the new instrument cluster with that giant 12 inch screen really well integrated, just looked awesome. And I kinda like the new grill. A lot of people were like, oh, it looks like a renegade. I don’t get it. Yeah, because that

Lightning (1h 30m 30s):

Wasn a, it’s, it’s narrower. Right?

Holman (1h 30m 32s):

Squattier squat not narrow. It’s just not as tall to left

Lightning (1h 30m 35s):

To right. I felt like that

Holman (1h 30m 36s):

Wasn, it’s the same’s identical. Oh it is. Yeah. It’s just the not as tall. Oh, I, I love it. I had a chance to spend time with our friend Jim Morrison and Mark Allen and we will have Mark on the next show, but they, they res sculpted the, the sport bar. There’s now a side curtain airbags, there’s power seats for the first time. They’re all waterproof. We talked about this, some of the last show, but seeing it in person, the upgrades are very nice and not enough to make me be like, oh man, I wish I would’ve waited. But anybody who’s gonna buy a 24 Wrangler, the 24 3 92, that’s, that’s the business right there. That’s, that’s the one to have. No, no.

Lightning (1h 31m 8s):

You should say that’s the Be’s nest.

Holman (1h 31m 10s):

No, I don’t say things like that. So it’s super weird. Hey lighting, did you hear?

Lightning (1h 31m 16s):

No. Nope.

Holman (1h 31m 17s):

Apparently the 2024 Ford Ranger, which shares a platform with the 2023 Ford Bronco might just be screwing up Bronco production. So it sounds like right now, because the 2024 Rangers coming online and being built at the same factory in Dearborn as the Bronco, sounds like there are a few growing pains over there and the Bronco output might be impacted. Hmm. I think we may have mentioned it in a previous show, but the manual is gonna be dropped for a little while and it sounds like the, the base Bronco, the Everglades edition and the manual option Broncos will have production delays until the Ranger is up at full swing.

Holman (1h 31m 59s):

So if you’re waiting on one of those God I

Lightning (1h 32m 1s):

Mean it’s really just might be waiting longer. If you’re a Bronco fan, you’re just getting pummeled.

Holman (1h 32m 5s):

Hey lighting, did you hear

Lightning (1h 32m 7s):

What? No. Nope.

Holman (1h 32m 9s):

Funny you should mention that because the Jeep regular outsold the four Bronco in Q one of 2023.

Lightning (1h 32m 14s):

Ouch. That stinks.

Holman (1h 32m 18s):

But it wasn’t a huge amount. So Ford sold 32,430 Broncos, which is up 37.6% from the same period last year. And the Jeep Wrangler, on the other hand sold 37,971.

Lightning (1h 32m 35s):

So I mean 3000 more is at, it’s an accomplishment.

Holman (1h 32m 39s):

Five. Five. 5,000 more. I thought you

Lightning (1h 32m 40s):

Said 34. No, 32.

Holman (1h 32m 41s):

32. Four 30. 37 to 37. 9 71. Got it. I mean that’s still a pretty fair distance. Some manufacturers would be happy to sell 5,000 of something in a quarter. Sure, sure. Anyway, the four XE according Jeep is the, this is funny, accounted for 38% of total Jeep Wrangler sales in the first quarter of 2023. Apparently making it in the Grand Cherokee. Four xe, the bestselling plugin hybrid electric vehicles in America.

Lightning (1h 33m 11s):

No way. Yep. What? Yeah, what are the, what’s the competition? Do we know? Like

Holman (1h 33m 15s):

Everything that’s plugin hybrid Priuses and Kias. Oh, wait

Lightning (1h 33m 18s):

A minute. So I just, in my own head, I heard like SS u V or something. No, I heard these prerequisites of no, of all plugin hybrids.

Holman (1h 33m 26s):

Placing number one and two Wrangler four by eight. Grad Cherokee four by eight. That’s pretty, that’s pretty crazy. We have a four by E in our driveway. And my wife absolutely loves it. So I’m not surprised that it continues to sell Well. we have really, really enjoyed it. She’s had about 7,000 miles on it now. Haven’t had one issue. And she plugs in every night and she drives all day on electricity and sometimes she doesn’t even hit gas By the time she gets home. So she went from filling up once every six days or so to filling up once every 20 days or so.

Lightning (1h 33m 58s):

Meanwhile, your 3 92 says you can hear it sucking.

Holman (1h 34m 3s):

That’s, that’s absolutely true. The beauty is that I am carbon neutral though because of this. My driveway. No. Yeah, absolutely. No, I’ve got a woo and I got V. If

Lightning (1h 34m 13s):

You count what comes out of your rectum, you’re nowhere near carbon neutral.

Holman (1h 34m 17s):

I don’t know why you went there. That’s very, very weird. I, at a loss of words. Hey lighting, did you hear?

18 (1h 34m 29s):

How about

Lightning (1h 34m 30s):

No. Nope.

Holman (1h 34m 32s):

The Tesla cyber truck has been seen with new steel wheels with various test equipment duct taped to the outside and it looks way even more steampunk than the actual drawings does. Mostly because, let me take a look here. The wheels look awful on it.

Lightning (1h 34m 50s):

Those, those are what kinda wheels would those be like? Like not welds? No. Like what kind of like

Holman (1h 34m 56s):

None of ’em. No, it looks like a Hyundai that lost a hubcap. Oh yeah. It’s horrible. That being said, Elon said that the production is about to come online and it feels like the future. That’s

Lightning (1h 35m 7s):

What, let me, let me future, I’m not sure. Check this out. So I put in my a hundred dollars deposit two years ago. Have you even got whatever that

Holman (1h 35m 13s):

Wasn, do you ever get updates? That’s

Lightning (1h 35m 14s):

What I was about to tell you. Not a single update. And yet I log into my quote unquote Tesla account. Right, because it gives you one Yeah. When you give ’em your a hundred bucks. Yeah. There’s nothing it says nothing. Nothing. They

Holman (1h 35m 29s):

Just took your money, dude.

Lightning (1h 35m 30s):

Zero. If I wanna know if, if any of em, anyone in our audience gave Tesla a hundred dollars. Have you had a single update from Tesla? Is it just me? Did I log in wrong? Did I, did I put in a password incorrectly? Like what happened? Or are they just ghosting everyone? They made a billion dollars of someone godly number upfront in like deposits and there’s no communicate. What? What? No way.

Holman (1h 35m 59s):

Oh, it’s horrible. Hey lighting, did you hear

19 (1h 36m 2s):

Oh, No, Oh

Lightning (1h 36m 4s):

No? Nope, I did not. A

Holman (1h 36m 6s):

Recent study from IC cars is, was, took a look at used car prices and obviously they’re starting to Trend down versus last year when new cars were not available. But interestingly enough, there are still a few hot models that demand are strong enough where the used market is actually higher than the as new sticker prices. And would you like to guess which vehicle is more expensive used currently than new? According to IC cars.

Lightning (1h 36m 39s):

Okay. More expensive Oh. my God. I’m gonna take a shot in the dark. A Ram 2,500.

Holman (1h 36m 48s):

Why would you go with that? Seems odd.

Lightning (1h 36m 51s):

I I mean I don’t, I don’t know. I don’t have a clue.

Holman (1h 36m 54s):

The Ford Maverick,

Lightning (1h 36m 56s):

Oh, Oh, really?

Holman (1h 36m 58s):

The average Ford Maverick sells for $4,038 over new pricing on the used car market that equates to a lightly used selling price of 36 grand.

Lightning (1h 37m 9s):

How? Why?

Holman (1h 37m 10s):

Because there’s, there’s no no supply at dealers. So unfortunately if you wanna get one, you gotta buy one used. And so because there’s no supply, the demand is high and the used ones get a little higher residual. So, and

Lightning (1h 37m 21s):

It’s still one of the cheapest vehicles on the road. I would say

Holman (1h 37m 26s):

I guess that’s why it’s the best of all worlds, apparently. Wow. Hey lighting, did you hear?

Lightning (1h 37m 30s):

No. Nope.

Holman (1h 37m 31s):

Interestingly enough, the 2024 G M C Sierra A T four X will now have the Diesel engine standard and the gas powered 6.2 liter V eight is available, but it’s an option. Wow. That seems kind of odd. I dunno if they’re trying to push up a Diesel production or if they feel like the majority of people in that particular model like the Diesel better than the gas, especially for that overlanding crowd. But for 2024, the the diesel’s gonna be standard on that particular trim.

Lightning (1h 38m 3s):

I mean that’s a such a pricey truck that I think the person who goes for that trim wants to max it. Let’s, so you get the engine to match

Holman (1h 38m 14s):

I mean you, you could be right for a change. Hey Lightning, did you hear? No.

13 (1h 38m 20s):

God, please. No.

Lightning (1h 38m 21s):

No. Nope.

Holman (1h 38m 23s):

So apparently GM has reported that for the first three months of 2023 that it sold, guess how many Hummers, the new ev Hummers Sure,

Lightning (1h 38m 34s):

Sure, sure. 4,500.

Holman (1h 38m 36s):

Is that your final answer?

Lightning (1h 38m 38s):


Holman (1h 38m 39s):


Lightning (1h 38m 43s):

Why explain please.

Holman (1h 38m 45s):

GM spokesperson clarified the record saying that they were under a recall stop delivery. So they halted production to fix the issue. Production resumed on January 30th of this year, and then shipments started happening at the end of Q one. So Q two sales should, should pick up, but it’s, it’s still a fun Click Beatty headline. Hey lighting, did you hear? No.

Lightning (1h 39m 7s):

Nope. I don’t think so.

Holman (1h 39m 9s):

Remember when we told you that the Ford Lightning got more expensive?

Lightning (1h 39m 16s):


Holman (1h 39m 16s):

Then remember we told you it got more expensive again.

Lightning (1h 39m 20s):

Yes. And then we did it again and realized we repeated the story. So that wasn twice. No,

Holman (1h 39m 24s):

No, no. Two different times it,

Lightning (1h 39m 26s):

I’m saying that we did it three times and then we realized that you had told us the story twice. That’s okay. So when it, it went up twice,

Holman (1h 39m 33s):

Right? Right. No, it went up three times. Now this is the third.

Lightning (1h 39m 36s):

Third. Officially the

Holman (1h 39m 37s):

Third. The base Lightning Pro now starts at 61 8 69. Friends over at T F L truck report that after another price hike, the 2023 Ford F one 50 Lightning Pro now kicks off at 61,869, which is a staggering $21,895 more than the initial launch pricing back in May of 2021. They go under report. That’s not just the pro either. That is the largest increase among the Lightning trim. But the mid-range Lariat jumps by $1,500 and now starts at 77 8 69, including Ford’s $1,895 destination charge.

Holman (1h 40m 18s):

And the platinum now after its $1,200 jump starting M S R P is 99 9 6 9. Wow. That’s a lot of cheddar. I listen, they’re forcing these EVs on people and apparently there’s enough at least initial demand where people want ’em, but there’s not a huge amount of supply. But it’s, it’s not sustainable if the whole automotive industry chases these higher prices on EVs. Just, I just sit here and I’m, I worry about the future, my friend worry about all the lithium and cobalt and

Lightning (1h 40m 57s):

They’re doing

Holman (1h 40m 58s):


Lightning (1h 40m 58s):

Grids, they’re, they’re doing a really good job of suppressing that conversation, aren’t they? Mm,

Holman (1h 41m 2s):

They sure are in quotes. They, whoever they are,

Lightning (1h 41m 6s):

It’s everyone.

Holman (1h 41m 7s):

Those people. Hey, did you hear?

Lightning (1h 41m 14s):


Holman (1h 41m 15s):

What percentage of G M C Sierra HDS in quarter one consisted of only a T four and Denali Trims.

Lightning (1h 41m 24s):

Okay, I’m gonna say

Holman (1h 41m 27s):

By. the way this goes back to you saying people who buy the trim want everything. Right?

Lightning (1h 41m 30s):

Right. I’m gonna say 70,

Holman (1h 41m 32s):


Lightning (1h 41m 34s):


Holman (1h 41m 35s):

So whichever guy said we need the A T four and Denali everything. Yeah,

Lightning (1h 41m 39s):

He was the man. That

Holman (1h 41m 40s):

Dude is getting paid. Yeah.

Lightning (1h 41m 42s):

Hopefully paid. Yes.

Holman (1h 41m 44s):

Hey, lighting, did you hear? No.

Lightning (1h 41m 46s):


Holman (1h 41m 47s):

Interestingly enough, Rivian says it’s on track to both 50,000 EVs this year. It delivered just under 8,000 vehicles in the first quarter of 2023.

Lightning (1h 41m 58s):

Will any of them have exciting interiors?

Holman (1h 42m 1s):

I don’t think the Rivian interiors, I like it way more than the Tesla interior.

Lightning (1h 42m 5s):

Sure. But I wasn’t comparing it to the Tesla interior. Tesla interior. I,

Holman (1h 42m 9s):

I think the rivian,

Lightning (1h 42m 10s):

Boring By, the way I was in a three performance for the first time ever,

Holman (1h 42m 14s):

They’re noisy as hell.

Lightning (1h 42m 15s):

So Yes. that wasn

Holman (1h 42m 16s):

And way boomy. Yes. And they ride like crap.

Lightning (1h 42m 18s):

All of those things are true. Yes. And yet it threw off my equilibrium when the guy did a launch. Oh dude,

Holman (1h 42m 24s):

They’re fast. Don’t damn for sure they’re fast, but sure. I, they, I couldn’t believe I had an Uber pick me up at a three. I cannot believe how bad the rear seat ride was and how boomy and noisy that wasn. So I was like, wow, this is,

Lightning (1h 42m 35s):

There’s no awful, there’s no sound deadening anywhere at all. You might as well put your head out the sunroof. Well the wind noise,

Holman (1h 42m 43s):

That’s pretty much what it sounds like. Except that’s road

Lightning (1h 42m 45s):

Noise. No, actually You know what I was hearing when I I that wasn just tire noise. Just so much freaking tire noise. It’s like you’re riding on a set of intercos. Super swampers.

Holman (1h 42m 56s):

Hey lighting. Did you hear?

Lightning (1h 42m 58s):

No. Nope.

Holman (1h 42m 59s):

So a while back we talked about how you could no longer get the quad motor with the biggest battery for the rivian, but now Rivian has officially added the performance dual motor option for the R one T, which can be paired with either the large pack or the max battery pack. What

Lightning (1h 43m 15s):

Does that do for

Holman (1h 43m 15s):

Performance? So now the dual motor, all Wheel drive is 600 horsepower. The performance dual motor, all Wheel drive is 700 horsepower and the quad motor, all Wheel drive is 835 horsepower.

Lightning (1h 43m 27s):

That would be fun. And it sounds, I’m not gonna lie, that would be fun.

Holman (1h 43m 30s):

And it sounds like when you, when you look at the matrix, a quad motor, all Wheel drive with the large battery pack and 21 inch wheels will do 328 miles of range while the performance dual motor with 21 inch wheels will do 400 miles of range. That compares to the dual motor. All Wheel drive at 600 horsepower, which is the non-performance version. It tops out also with 21 inch wheels at 400 miles,

Lightning (1h 43m 59s):

700 horsepower. Will it tank turn?

Holman (1h 44m 3s):

They do not have tank turn because they were afraid people were gonna spin themselves right on off a cliff. Is that true? Yep.

Lightning (1h 44m 8s):

What off a cliff?

Holman (1h 44m 10s):

Yeah, just spinning, doing tank turns and then f flying off and not losing your bearings just

Lightning (1h 44m 16s):

Oh, got it. Just actually just getting dizzy.

Holman (1h 44m 18s):

Bye. Well, no, they’re afraid people would be doing it on the side like a, a shelf road or something. Like hey party trick. And then they, the liability of them driving themselves off of a ravine. that wasn not appealing.

Lightning (1h 44m 29s):

Will they keep it in the Hummer?

Holman (1h 44m 31s):

I don’t know that the Hummer has that particular feature. I

Lightning (1h 44m 34s):

Thought it did.

Holman (1h 44m 35s):

Interesting. The The Rivian. The Hummer’s, the three motor, the Rivian iss, A four motor, four motors. What allows you to do that? Right? You’re thinking of Crabwalk.

Lightning (1h 44m 42s):

I was thinking of Crabwalk. Thank you. Yes. Which is completely

Holman (1h 44m 43s):

Different. Totally

Lightning (1h 44m 44s):

Different. Not even close to being the same thing.

Holman (1h 44m 47s):

It’s like super three D driving feels like you’re piloting a helicopter on the ground. That’s the best way I can describe it. It’s cool but it’s weird. All right? Lighting. Did you hear?

Lightning (1h 44m 57s):

You’ve gotten more

Holman (1h 44m 58s):

The last one?

Lightning (1h 44m 59s):

No, no I’ve not heard

Holman (1h 45m 1s):

For this is for the kids. We just had Easter and the Easter bunny came and it’s about to be summertime and you like to go camping so apparently you can now get a little teeny tiny rooftop tent for your kids’ power wheels Jeep.

Lightning (1h 45m 18s):

No you can’t.

Holman (1h 45m 19s):

Yes you can. Really? The Adventure rooftop tent manufacturer Roof Nest now has a kid sized one and it’s called the Roof Nest Hatchling. And it’s the first ever rooftop tent designed just for kids and no, why are you buzzing that?

Lightning (1h 45m 40s):

’cause first off, a power wheels weighs like 10 pounds. It’ll tip right over the kids can

Holman (1h 45m 45s):

Get hurt. No, it’s great. Measuring 36 inches by 24 inches by 23 inches. No, it’s a downsized version of the rooftop tent.

Lightning (1h 45m 53s):

The only way get big truck this works is if it has like legs that stretch out

Holman (1h 45m 57s):

Out. Oh No. Listen, if dad, if dad has a Jeep at the rooftop tent, yeah, why can’t your power wheels have a,

Lightning (1h 46m 1s):

’cause it doesn’t weigh anything. It’s gonna tip over the kid’s getting How do you know that? I’m just saying

Holman (1h 46m 5s):

Listen, it can be mounted on children’s size, battery powered vehicles. Mm. It’s cool. Look at this.

Lightning (1h 46m 11s):

Let me see. That sounds dumb. Hang on. Lemme see here. Yeah, that’s just as dumb as I thought it sounded.

Holman (1h 46m 18s):

That was also April fool’s

Lightning (1h 46m 19s):

Joke. Oh, okay. That makes a little more sense.

Holman (1h 46m 22s):

I So I was hoping you go along with it a little bit more. that wasn one of my favorite April Fool’s jokes. Listen no show here. Landed on April Fools this year. So you guys are safe from our hijinks for at least another year. Yeah,

Lightning (1h 46m 33s):

Another year. ’cause it’s fallen on a Sunday. You don’t, why would you pull do on a Sunday? That’s stupid. But man, in two years you guys are screwed holster. You ready for some email?

Holman (1h 46m 44s):

We have time for emails.

Lightning (1h 46m 46s):

Nope, we’re gonna do ’em anyway. All, right?

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You email? Yeah, I email Do it. We email. That’s right. Everybody email type it up. You email proofread. I email send it. We email. Click it. Everybody email

Lightning (1h 47m 3s):

Now. Dude, this is the longest show ever.

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The longest truck show podcast episode on record.

Holman (1h 47m 11s):

Except it’s not

Lightning (1h 47m 12s):

No, it’s not even close. All, right? You gotta hand those things out. You’re just, there you go.

Holman (1h 47m 18s):


Lightning (1h 47m 18s):

Away. I think we just blew an entire HP printer cartridge. Yes we did. On all these Zoom emails. Damn.

Holman (1h 47m 23s):

And this isn’t even half the fricking frontier spotting ones we have.

Lightning (1h 47m 26s):

Oh yeah. By the way Do send us your frontier spotting email truck show or Lightning at truck show and send us your photo of a Nissan frontier taken from the cab of your truck and make sure you include your shipping address so I can send you a shiny truck show podcast sticker subject line, end of last episode from Seth Anderson. Hey guys, that ad for the T R X at the end of the last episode was Hi hilarious. Thanks for the laugh, Seth from Chicago. I try to drop some nugs into the end of the episodes just to keep you guys hanging on to the end and well

Holman (1h 48m 5s):

Sometimes you do.

Lightning (1h 48m 6s):

That one was funny.

Holman (1h 48m 7s):

All, right? We’ve got Trevor Nero writes a Chevy Meteor. If GM makes something that’s even comparably successful as the Raptor or T R X, I’ll eat my shorts. I used to be a bow tie till I die kind of guy, but I think they just lost their soul after the bailout. I think the Beier is gonna be about as well adopted as their Chevy Blazer revival. Thanks Trevor.

Lightning (1h 48m 25s):

Yeah, the blazer was just a bad

Holman (1h 48m 27s):

Abomination. My my sister-in-law Tetro one before she bought her car and she was like, yeah, this, this thing drives like a tin can. Yeah, I bet. Super impressive.

Lightning (1h 48m 42s):

Travis Bowles wrote into us. Here’s a picture of a truck show podcast sticker on my toolbox. Save the second one for a random place in Michigan while I’m out fishing. Thanks for sending them for Spotting the Frontier in the Wild. Keep up the awesome podcast. And that’s from Travis out in Plain well Michigan

Holman (1h 48m 59s):

All. right? I got one here from our friend John Segal says, Hey Lighting Holman. This is your pal John from the beautiful West Shores of Lake Tahoe. I was listening to you thank your sponsors at the beginning of the most recent show and heard you mentioning Bill Bilstein. I’m loving my October purchase of my new to me 2020 Ram Rebel. as you can see, it’s fairly loaded with the lumber rack camper shell deck drawers and tools. The truck drives so good, the spring rate and Bilstein shocks compliment each other so well. Bill Bilstein did a great job with my old 2016 Ram EcoDiesel. The chassis would get upset with the bumps potholes and overall poor road quality here at North Lake Tahoe with the 2020 Rebel and the Bill Stein’s. The chassis is never upset. This truck’s nickname is Smooth Crew super happy with their product. Keep up the quality work brothers.

Holman (1h 49m 40s):

And that’s from John and we had that truck. I had a steel spring rebel for a year as part of my job at Four Wheeler evaluating and that was one of the very few vehicles that I’ve had that my wife at the end of the loan said, we should think about buying that. Really? Yeah. She liked it that much and I think that one was a, that wasn either a 19 or I think that wasn A 20. That

Lightning (1h 49m 59s):

One was red, wasn’t it?

Holman (1h 49m 60s):

That one was Billet silver. Billet

Lightning (1h 50m 2s):

Silver. I don’t remember that truck

Holman (1h 50m 3s):

Only had it for a year. You rode in it.

Lightning (1h 50m 7s):

Why do I think that wasn red? What? What red truck do you, oh, I know the T R X was red.

Holman (1h 50m 11s):

T R X was red. The Chevy Colorado ZR two was red.

Lightning (1h 50m 15s):

Was red. Hmm. Yeah. I don’t recall you having a silver truck.

Holman (1h 50m 19s):

My Nissan Titan Xd Diesel was blue. Yeah, the Raptor was blue. The older second gen Raptor was white. I’m trying to think of what vehicles I’ve had. I

Lightning (1h 50m 30s):

Just don’t remember you owning a silver truck, huh? Yeah.

Holman (1h 50m 34s):

Strange. Only for a year.

Lightning (1h 50m 36s):

Pod shed name subject line from Mike Rich. I know I’m late to the naming game, but How about this for the pod shed. The Chunker bunker. You’ll pass on that. It fits nicely since you guys barely fit in it. That’s ha true. Just kidding. Thanks for the great show guys bastard. Yep.

Holman (1h 50m 52s):

I got this one from Creighton Buroughs says, hi guys from tier spotting at the San Jose airport car rental. And he says, I travel off and for work and had a new experience last week. I got to drive and experience the Jeep Wrangler four by E. This was my first EV endeavor and I was pretty impressed By the performance and drivability hybrid mode. I didn’t notice any difference when it switched between electric and gas, but charging is not cheap. I charged it at the hotel and I was at zero miles. It cost $47 for a full 25 mile charge. So about $2 per mile? Yes. $2 per mile. Wow. The hourly charge fees were the killer at $4 an hour. I can’t imagine the cost of driving cross country with a full ev. Keep up the good work and Emmy. Yeah, buddy.

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Yeah, buddy.

Holman (1h 51m 32s):

I am, I’ve said it before. Let’s say everything transitions over to EVs smooth. Everybody loves them. They take off. We have a supply chain that supports them. We have a infrastructure that has gobs of additional power because the the, the world has smiled and we developed whatever nugget of widgets that makes all the electric vehicles magically fill up in five minutes and everybody is in ev bliss, they will find a way to tax the hell out of them and the electricity so that they are no more affordable than gas. Mark my words.

Lightning (1h 52m 9s):

Truck show If you have feelings about that very subject, we’d like to hear them. Truck show That’s where you’ll find us.

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The truck show. The truck show. The truck show.

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Lightning (1h 52m 27s):

Holman. This is where you give our socials normally

Holman (1h 52m 29s):

I just like the music. Okay,

Lightning (1h 52m 31s):

I’ll turn it up. So I’m at L B C Lightning.

Holman (1h 52m 38s):

Ah. That’s my job. Just enjoy the music for a moment. You know that’s me on guitar, right? It’s not, no, it’s not.

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Holman (1h 53m 0s):

On. What? It’s awesome. Sometimes we, we talk over the music and people don’t get to enjoy how awesome our, our podcast show music. Listen, other podcasts don’t have as cool of a outro as we do. So that’s what I’m saying. No, they

Lightning (1h 53m 14s):

Just ended. There’s like, thanks.

Holman (1h 53m 15s):

Yeah. See you. Talk to you tomorrow. Thanks. Week. Yeah. All. right. If you want to hit us up on the socials, hit us up at At Truck Show podcast at LBC Lighting at Sean p Holman. You can hit us up on email truck show Holman at truck show or Lightning at truck show And guys, we need some voicemails. 6 5 7 2 0 5 61 0 5. Hit us up on the five star hotline. Five star five star five hotline.

Lightning (1h 53m 43s):

6 5 7 2 0 5 61 0 5. Again, I’ve said this before, if you can’t remember the number, just go to our Instagram at Truck Show podcast and click the call button.

Holman (1h 53m 52s):

All, right? If you are looking for a new truck, you need something reliable, dependable, comfortable Nissan. Powerful Nissan.

Lightning (1h 53m 60s):

Yes. Is that where you’re going with this? Yeah. Okay,

Holman (1h 54m 2s):

Good. Absolutely. Head on down to your local Nissan dealer where you can check out in person the Nissan Frontier, the Nissan Titan, and the Nissan Titan Xd. Of course, the Titan and Titan Xds have the industry’s best five year, 100,000 mile warranty. And Nissan has been supporting the show for five years going on six woo woo. So guess what? You should support them too.

Lightning (1h 54m 20s):

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Holman (1h 54m 52s):

And if you’ve got a set of blown out shocks on your ride, you wanna head to Bilstein where you can search for your year, make, or model, and find something for your vehicle. Bilstein is the original innovator of the mono tube, and whether you’ve got a stock height truck or lifted, they’ve got an application for you. Even if you’ve got some third party lift kit that came with white shocks that are all blown out and leaked everywhere, you’ll be surprised at How much more control and How much better ride comfort you can get by swapping in a set of Bill Stein’s on their page. They’ll tell you, is it zero to one, two to three, four, whatever your lift height is, there’s a set of shocks that are right for you. Again, head over to bill Bilstein We’ve got ’em on our rides. You should have ’em on yours,

Lightning (1h 55m 31s):

The Truck Show Podcast is a production of truck famous L L c. This podcast was created by Sean Holman and Jay Tillis with production elements by DJ Omar Khan. If you like what you’ve heard, please open your Apple Podcast or Spotify app and give us a five star rating. And if you’re a fan, there’s no better way to show your support than by patronizing our sponsors. Some vehicles may have been harmed during the making of this podcast.

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These are my confessions. As an overlander, I don’t wash my vehicle for weeks at a time because if I leave it dirty, people might think I actually do go Offroad. I have traction boards on my hood just as a conversation starter because I want to talk about overlanding more. Whenever someone refers to this as my widow wa, I laugh, but inside I cry. I.