In this episode, Sam Lowe presents SD Wheel to the podcast audience. The hosts reveal the performance company that recently incurred a million-dollar fine from the government, and they also highlight some exciting new parts. The Truck Show Podcast is proudly brought to you by Nissan, in collaboration with Banks Power and SD Wheel.



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Producer? (0s):

Lightning and Holman. It’s Miles. Your producer. I’m letting you know that you need to make this intro quick because we have a jam packed shell. So don’t screw around.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10s):

I didn’t know that we had a producer Miles. Who are

Sean P. Holman (12s):

You? What do you do? Was that all about Hmm.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14s):

Strange. You

Sean P. Holman (15s):

Fire Alice And. we now have Miles. Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17s):

Miles did. Alice has been relieved of her duties. Hmm

Sean P. Holman (21s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22s):

Alright. Well or more so that the website doesn’t function properly anymore.

Sean P. Holman (25s):

Okay. So you found a new voice I to chastise us.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (29s):

We vo what Voice, how dare you? This is Miles our producer.

Sean P. Holman (33s):

All right. Miles answer me this, who is booked for this show.

Producer? (38s):

Thanks for asking. You have Sam Lowe from SD Wheel, and you’ll also notice that you both have frosty cold Dr. Peppers in front of you. Wow.

Sean P. Holman (46s):

Whoa. well, I like miles, by the way. Miles has a way better inflection. It’s it’s almost creepily humanlike. I know, right?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (53s):

It’s weird. All right, well, nice to meet you Miles. I Mean. Thanks Miles. Welcome

Sean P. Holman (56s):

To the show. Our first third employee,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 0s):

I’m Lightning And. he is Holman. Welcome to The Truck Show Podcast number 874.

Sean P. Holman (1m 6s):

Actually, I was checking on this before the show and I didn’t get a chance to, to finish checking, but I do believe, if I’m not mistaken, and I’m I’m,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 18s):

Can you get to it? What?

Sean P. Holman (1m 20s):

This is episode 31 of Season two.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 26s):


Sean P. Holman (1m 27s):

And also our 299th episode, including all the bonuses.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 34s):


Sean P. Holman (1m 34s):

We are on the eve of 300 of these M fers.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 38s):

Can you believe we’ve done 300 of these shows and some of our listeners have listened to, to all

Sean P. Holman (1m 44s):

Of ’em. I. think we have a letter. Was it in last week’s or this one? Anyway, they said they listened to all of them twice.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 51s):

That’s mental Just

Sean P. Holman (1m 52s):

A little bit.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 53s):

That’s fricking mental. A little bit wrong. I. Mean. We love you

Sean P. Holman (1m 55s):

Guys. I haven’t listened to each of these twice.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1m 57s):

Love you so much. I give Consider you a high five a, a high 10, and a hug

Sean P. Holman (2m 2s):

If you consider listening to the show while we record it and then listening to one more time to get all the And Les that you missed. Dude, don’t

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 11s):

Do that

Sean P. Holman (2m 12s):

Then. I’ve listened to it twice.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 13s):

Okay. Listen, it’s The, Truck, Show Podcast. We’re happy to have you on board with us. We would like a five star view. We’re gonna right outta the gate, right? Normally we save that for the end of the show, but some of you don’t. Make it to the end. Go to the Apple Podcast app and give us five freaking stars. why don’t you, it doesn’t cost you anything to listen to the show, right? Yeah. So just do it for, for, for your man Lightning here. Just do it for your boy. Sean Holman. All right. Five stars in the Apple Podcast tab. Get us over the thousand 50 mark. Yeah, we’re

Sean P. Holman (2m 39s):

At the thousand 30 right now. Everybody, so

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 42s):

Make ’em funny. We wanna laugh at him. Okay. Make fun of us. It’s all good. So what did you think of our five star party? We,

Sean P. Holman (2m 48s):

We, we haven’t had one of the, we keep talking about it, but we have

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 51s):

It. Banks Banks Power. Oh,

Sean P. Holman (2m 53s):

The, the summer party.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 54s):

The 2023. Summer. Summer Banks. January 23. Yes. That

Sean P. Holman (2m 57s):

Was pretty awesome. Yeah. You think so? Yeah. that wasn cool.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (2m 59s):

Now are you saying I Mean, you

Sean P. Holman (3m 0s):

Put me to work the whole

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 1s):

Time. Wait, wait, stop. Are you saying that because it’s me or did you actually have a good time

Sean P. Holman (3m 6s):

Other than being put to work? I had a great time. The food wasn great. The people were great. that wasn great to see all the banks’ employees, all the banks’ customers, people with a ton of different vehicles. There was Sean Moore came with his crazy turbocharge beetle. I’ve had my Wrangler 3 92. There

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 22s):

Was, did you see Griffin Seinfeld with his crazy Apache? His what? 49. Apache with a crazy Ls

Sean P. Holman (3m 27s):

And KB came out with his Chevy truck. Dude,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 29s):

Ryan KB doesn’t go anywhere.

Sean P. Holman (3m 31s):

That was And. he And. he came to Banks. Hey,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 32s):

Did you see Derm X Rhino? I

Sean P. Holman (3m 34s):

Heard him, dude, but I did not see him.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 36s):

Fricking Ryan. Sorry. Durmax Rhino drove up from South San Diego. Dude, like two and a half hours. That’s a long drive

Sean P. Holman (3m 43s):

To get there. Like that’s a big deal about our buddy Matt Deandre, who I got a chance to talk to for about 30 minutes about business, which was pretty cool. I,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (3m 49s):

Mean carcass. Matt Diria.

Sean P. Holman (3m 50s):

Yep. The motivator. And then also super fast, Matt, which by the way, I didn’t get a chance to talk to him because Gail was talking to him for about four hours. And Matt De Andrew and I were off to the side laughing and I go, you know, if I get a a a way to jump in there, I’m gonna tell him I heard you’re super fast. And then we both giggled

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 8s):

Super fast. Matt, most of you are on YouTube. Please do yourself a favor and watch super fast. Matt, he’s a former mechanical engineer. He’s got a great sense of humor. He is articulate and so fun to watch. And. he has all these freak show vehicles. He’s going to Bonneville, he’s gonna race in a BMW motorcycle engine powered streamliner and try to go like 200 miles an hour or something. Absurd. Super fast. Matt. He’s great. He’ll be your new favorite YouTube channel. Alright,

Sean P. Holman (4m 38s):

Well I think my highlight of the party was finally getting a chance to, to eat and then having some ice cream. No,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 45s):

Wait a minute. Did you have, wait, wait. Did you have the tacos? Did you have the burgers?

Sean P. Holman (4m 48s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 49s):

Oh, you had

Sean P. Holman (4m 49s):

’em all. And then I had the pizza and the pizza was really good.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 51s):

The pizza was, oh, KJ Jones from Four Wheeler.

Sean P. Holman (4m 54s):

Nope. Hot Rod now. Oh,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 55s):

He’s hot Rod now? Yeah. Okay. He must have had

Sean P. Holman (4m 57s):

Four. Wheeler doesn’t exist.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (4m 58s):

I’m just, I I don’t know if you’re listening to kj, but you had like six pieces of pizza, bro.

Sean P. Holman (5m 1s):

No, he he did. He was, he was definitely, I had, I had some with him and then I had the Handels ice cream and then you and I had the ill Ill-fated decision to jump up and down in a bounce house after that. and I thought I was gonna puke all over you.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 13s):

I thought you were gonna puke all over me as well. Yeah, that wasn,

Sean P. Holman (5m 15s):

I was like, that was a bad

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 16s):

Idea. and I watched the video and it’s bad. I’m not gonna use it. Oh

Sean P. Holman (5m 20s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 20s):

Yeah. I. think that wasn horrible. We shot, we shot some video of hair for, for Banks. And. we Holman and I were bouncing up and down in a Monster truck. Bounce house. And. we thought it’d be funny and it wasn’t.

Sean P. Holman (5m 29s):

So was there an outtake that’s gonna go on? The Truck Show Podcast. Oh yeah. Website. Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 33s):

Should be. We we could use it. Yeah. Banks can’t use it, but

Sean P. Holman (5m 36s):

We could use it. No, I didn’t do it for Banks. It did for us. Okay.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 38s):

Yeah. That’s usable for us. ’cause we’re, we have a very low bar for quality entertainment. That’s

Sean P. Holman (5m 43s):

True. Fortunately our friends over at Nissan don’t realize that and they want to continue to be part of the podcast. Don’t say

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (5m 49s):

That out loud, dude.

Sean P. Holman (5m 51s):

No, I’m saying we love them. We love that. We do. They love who we are. Okay. We’re unapologetically us. And if you want an unapologetic truck that is reliable and durable and dependable, you wanna head over to Nissan or down to your local Nissan dealer. We can check out the Nissan Frontier Of course. The half ton and half ton plus Nissan Titan and Titan xd. They have the industry’s best five year, 100,000 mile warranty. Oh. And in News, there’s a little bit of Nissan news coming up. Really? Yeah. So stay tuned for that. Can you be a teaser? Nope. I just did. I got a question for you. Hmm. What was up with a big ass filter on Sean Moore’s Bug?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 26s):

Oh, the, the Giant Banks’s Big ass. Well, big ass filter. Big filter on that. Garrett Turbo. What

Sean P. Holman (6m 31s):

Was that off of? That was a truck filter, wasn’t it? Yeah, that’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 34s):

Out of a 4 2 2 4 9. Oh, okay. Sorry. That’s inside jargon. That’s off of a 2017 to 2019 Duramax L five P Ram air intake. So

Sean P. Holman (6m 42s):

The bug is breathing through a Duramax Ram air intake filter. Well,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 47s):

As big as

Sean P. Holman (6m 47s):

Your head. Yeah. No, it’s huge. Yes. It, it almost, I’m like, why is there a cotton gauze wing on the back of that beetle?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (6m 54s):

He’s trying to make this the fastest bug in the quarter mile I think ever. And it’s massive. I I think he’s trying to do like seven, 800 horsepower or something in this thing. Well, something mean ridiculous for a bug. Right. And like, because it’s rear Wheel Drive and it’s just gonna Wheel all the way down the course. Course. See totally

Sean P. Holman (7m 9s):

There’s, he’s got weight on the front end. He’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 10s):

Got Wheel bars. You have to I don I think he’s gonna do anything you Anyway. So he called me And, he says, Hey, where can I get a filter? I need a six inch ID on the inlet side. and I said, whoa, I’m sorry. That’d be technically the outlet. I guess the outlet. and I said, we have one that’s for our Durmax And. he goes, can I borrow one? So I gave him a sample. It fit like a glove that wasn perfect. And it’s then

Sean P. Holman (7m 31s):

He gave you a truck for a dollar

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 32s):

And it flows more than that Volkswagen engine. No,

Sean P. Holman (7m 35s):

He didn’t give you a truck for a dollar for trade. He

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 36s):

Did not give a truck for trade. No. That’s how I got locked. Same guy. Got it. Yes. They don, they don’t understand that. Sorry, that was me. The connection. Yeah. Right. So he got the best flowing filter for any Durmax truck. And if you want one too, go to Banks and type in your year make and model. We have a bank’s big ass filter included with the Ram Air intake system for your truck or Volkswagen. Can

Sean P. Holman (7m 57s):

I buy a builder card? Get the filter separately for my own weird project?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (7m 60s):

Oh, you know what, actually we do sell those a la carte. We, yeah, I forgot we did. Yeah. So you want a big ass filter for whatever you’re building. Go to Banks

Sean P. Holman (8m 8s):

And if I want wheels and tires, do I also go to, oh wait,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 11s):

No. SD

Sean P. Holman (8m 12s):

Wheel. So we gotta welcome SD wheels to the show. SD Wheel is gonna be with us here for a little bit. And we actually are gonna be talking to the marketing director Sam Lowe tonight on the show. But if you are looking for the largest selection of in, in-stock Wheels and Tires, no matter what your build style is, they’ve got you covered. They actually will Mount Balance and ship the wheels and tires to you for free.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 35s):

Now when Holman says peak selection

Sean P. Holman (8m 37s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 38s):

And when you think

Sean P. Holman (8m 39s):

We’ll get into it, it’s, it’s hundreds of brands. It seems like I Mean, it’s, it’s every name you ever heard about and a bunch you probably haven’t.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (8m 45s):

It’s an ocean of brands

Sean P. Holman (8m 46s):

And that’s both on the Wheel side, the tire side, and also the performance product side. You can head over to SD Wheel dot com, find the right Wheel and tire package for your vehicle. You can find out if it’s gonna fit or if it’s gonna rub. And you can skip the tire shop. Save yourself hundreds of dollars in all that hassle. Again, SD Wheel dot com And, we are proud to be associated with them for this run here on the podcast.

Producer? (9m 8s):

Not bad guys. You’ve only drone on a little. Get to the intro please.

Sean P. Holman (9m 13s):


3 (9m 14s):

The truck show. We’re gonna show you what we know. We’re gonna answer What? The truck, because truck rides with the truck show. We have the lifted, we have the lowered end. everything in between. We’ll talk about trucks that run on Diesel and the ones that run on gasoline. The truck show. The truck show. The truck show. Oh whoa.

4 (9m 46s):

It’s the truck show with your hosts Lightning and Holman.

Sean P. Holman (9m 52s):

That Miles is kinda snarky, isn’t he?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 55s):

He’s a little snarky. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (9m 57s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (9m 58s):

I was gonna choose an English accent, but then I thought, yeah, know I’ll just make him American. Yeah, that’s

Sean P. Holman (10m 1s):

Pretentious. Yeah, yeah. No, I’d rather have a snarky American keeps us in line better. All right, so we have to dial up our new friends. Sam Lowe from s Are we buddies? Wheel? Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Not only are we buddies, but we’re friends

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 15s):

Then let’s dial up our new friend. I wonder if we’ll pick up.

Sam Lowe (10m 26s):

Hey guys, this is Sam

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 27s):

Sam Lightning and Holman Truck. Show Podcast. How you

Sean P. Holman (10m 30s):

Doing? What’s happening?

Sam Lowe (10m 32s):

I am doing great. How are you guys doing?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 33s):

We’re doing outstanding.

7 (10m 36s):

Yo, the truck show. Who dis? Who dis. Who the hell is this a truck show interview you don’t wanna miss? We talked to top dogs in the industry. How’d you blow? W how’d you come to be? Who? Dis who Dis Truck Show represent.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (10m 53s):

So the who Dis is SD. Wheel. Now Sam, how long have you been with SD?

Sam Lowe (11m 1s):

So I’ve been with SD for about two and a half years now. Okay.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (11m 5s):

So for those of our listeners that have not, they’re not familiar with SD, give us the, the background on the company.

Sam Lowe (11m 13s):

Sure. So SD Wheel really started kind in the Chicago area and it’s, it, you know, started out small as lot companies do. And grew and grew and grew. And now where we’re at is we’re part of a larger group of brands called Enthusiast Enterprises. So we kind of have our different brands and divisions for kinda different niches in the automotive field. And what we do, SD Wheeler, the creative title or name with Wheel is we sell a lot of wheels, tires and suspension. That’s kind of our specialty. So if you all wheels I Mean, we got ’em. It is absolutely insane what we have access to and not just, you know, what we can get from other, other people warehouses.

Sam Lowe (11m 53s):

But what we actually have in our own warehouse, we make the investment to actually bring the inventory in with wheels and tires. And our big thing is we will Mount Balance and ship for free to you. So you can skip the tire shop and just install right on your rig and go from there. And honestly, some places just don’t mount certain size tires to wheels. And, we have some crazy stuff that comes through the line and we’ll do anything for you and make it really easy and ship it fast for you.

Sean P. Holman (12m 16s):

So what I’m understanding is that you guys not only have a large selection, but it doesn’t matter what the build style is, whether it’s more of an off-road style or like a, a Southeast Florida truck style with, you know, big old hoops that most tire shops. Like a set of thirties. Yeah. Set of thirties and they’re like, no, we’re not gonna touch those.

Sam Lowe (12m 33s):

Yep. We’ve got everything. Like, it’d be great to have you guys out sometime and you know, check out our, our warehouse and our lines got multiple lines coming through. And when you’re watching those coming down the line, I love taking a walk down there. ’cause you’ll see like, like you said, some big Chrome thirties, maybe some like stretch for like rubber band tires on there. And then some 16, some huge like Falcon Wild Peaks, you know, offroad tires, all just going in line and going down to everywhere in the country.

Sean P. Holman (12m 55s):

And you guys really do have a lot of different brands. Fuel Ultra Arcon, R-B-P-T-I-S, Wheel, HRA, Konig, HRE Anthem Panther, HRE Inky, HRE, rot Rotor and and Of course Lightning is H

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 10s):

Rre. Yeah,

Sean P. Holman (13m 11s):

I. Mean. That’s just the name of few. I Mean. You guys cover all of the popular stuff. And then you also have your own Wheel Brands Tire Brands in there as well. You, you on the tire side, you got Michelin, Acela, Americas Amp Tires, suspension, Accu Airlift, bill Stein, which is a favorite of

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 27s):

Us. I’ve never heard of any of these brands.

Sean P. Holman (13m 29s):

BDS, bell Tech, I Mean. He just goes down the list and you guys have all sorts of stuff. Okay.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (13m 34s):

But I I think Yeah, before you weigh in on that Hold on a second, Sam, I I think we’ve kind of skipped a very important part of the, the puzzle here is that you kind of glossed over, well we started small And, we grew big, but the reason you grew big so fast and the fact that many of our listeners probably know who SD Wheel is, and if they don’t, they will is because you had that really unique business plan in the beginning was that

Sean P. Holman (13m 59s):

To sell wheels and tires to as many people as possible,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (14m 2s):

I, Mean, I I think that was probably it, but I don’t think that that was the plan. I think he was just, he had a really ni So can you tell us about the founder and how that got started?

Sam Lowe (14m 9s):

Yeah, so like with, with Steve Hamilton and, and some of the other owners as well, it, you know, it’s a group of owners that we have and the cool thing is we’re enthusiasts. So we’re a car and you know, and truck people And, that whole buying process is, is really difficult or was really difficult. And these guys figure out a way to make it easy where you enter your make model and it says, Hey, here’s what’s gonna fit and there’s no guesswork to it. And If, you don’t believe us. You can just call us And. we have real humans that answer the phones and they’ll guide you through that process and probably nerd out on your build with you. That happens. But they really made it easy. And then the big thing too is like they’re, you know, bringing in multiple brands from all over the country, but then also creating our own warehouse where we pair those wheels with tires.

Sam Lowe (14m 51s):

Because as an enthusiast, that tire shop can be kind of hard to get past, especially if you have, you know, wheels and tires, especially like off-Road stuff that’s not mounted up and you have to get it in your truck, you know, or your car or whatever you have and get it to there. It’s just really hard. So make it easy for people and they buy And. we grew and grew and grew and grew and it’s just, it’s really cool to see, to continue growth with that.

Sean P. Holman (15m 10s):

Is it true that the UPS guy hates you?

Sam Lowe (15m 13s):

You know, I, I don don’t know, but I think he maybe hates the guy who ordered thirties with some like giant tires on

Sean P. Holman (15m 20s):

It, right? Noted

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (15m 21s):

I think though, before SD, I, I’m not aware of a company that cataloged or offered all the fitments that were possible. They would say, all right, if you have a Toyota Tacoma, the here’s the two sizes that we’re aware of that here’s the offset, here’s the, you know, the, the diameter of the Wheel that we think you should run to fit over the brakes and here’s two, two or three size tires and that’s it. And you guys, you guys went full hog like this is everything that we think that can fit on your truck safely. And nobody else was doing that. And then through social media, you guys got really big explaining this fits, this fits this doesn’t fit, this fits this, this, this does not fit. And I think that just exploded for you.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 1s):

Am I, am I on the right track here?

Sam Lowe (16m 4s):

Yeah, absolutely. And, we kind of even taken the one step further. We even tell you what might kind of fit, but it’s gonna rub. And if you’re okay with that, that’s cool. Or if you wanna make some cuts and you know, or do aftermarket bumper, whatever, we know it’ll fit. The other thing too is not all these are stock ride heights. You know, you got lower trucks, lifted trucks, you know, stock, just level trucks, everything. And you put that in And that changes those parameters. Or now you fit a 35 or maybe only before you could fit a 33, but now you can do it with this Wheel combination. So that’s the, the kind of bread and butters that make it easy.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (16m 34s):

Yeah. So a lot of applications, like with my truck for example, I remember Hol and I were looking for wheels for my truck and all the combos to go up to a 37 inch tire would rub. And then we found the right Wheel tire combo. I could get a 37, but because that wasn such a, that wasn a positive offset. So kind of s The wheels were sucked in. I have no, I have no rubbing at all. And that’s the information that you guys offer. And it’s crazy because we always talk about on the show that both Homeland and I are on all these Facebook groups and all these old school forums and the number one question everyone’s always posting is Will these

Sean P. Holman (17m 8s):

Wheels does rub? Does it rub, does it rub?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 11s):

I’m like, dude, just call s Studio Wheel please. Yep. Just call s st. Wheel

Sam Lowe (17m 14s):

I Mean. And they like some Facebook groups and forums and stuff, And I. See people literally screenshot our website and go, Hey, I found these. You guys think they’ll fit? And be like, yeah, it says it does. It’s going to fit

Sean P. Holman (17m 25s):

Well if you go to the Facebook page, which is SD Wheel, it’s interesting to see that they’re just like us 4.9 out of five stars on their, on their ratings. Oh, who’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 35s):

The one A?

Sean P. Holman (17m 36s):

Although although we’re like the 1100 range, they have almost 2000. So we’re behind ’em on, on reviews. Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (17m 42s):


Sean P. Holman (17m 42s):

You need our people to step up. But here’s some of the comments. Good business, good marketing. Oh, there’s one guy came on here was talking about ordering wheels and going back for more how fast the shipping was. Customer service, a lot of customer service comments within there where people are like, yeah, I had a great experience. And it’s, that’s always great to see,

Sam Lowe (18m 1s):

Especially when you know, you’re spending, you know, potentially a couple thousand dollars on something. Like it’s not a, well hopefully it’s not just a I’m gonna just buy this, you know, it’s a, a process a lot of people think about and you wanna have trust in that and have a good experience through it because that’s a lot of money.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (18m 14s):

How many customers are growing with you? Like, okay, I just bought a used Tacoma and then I buy a set through SD Wheel or one of the sister brands, maybe I’m at custom, custom offsets or something like that. Right? That’s part of the enthusiasts network. Correct. Yep. Okay. And then I can, now I can afford a tundra, right? And so Yep. Totally different Wheel Tower combo. Are they growing with you?

Sam Lowe (18m 36s):

Yeah, absolutely. And that’s kind of the fun thing to see is we’re like, a lot of our brands are actually the, the first place a lot of people are buying their Wheel entire package. They’re the first aftermarket set because you Google it, you find it, Hey, we make it easy and they buy it through us and making it easy. They, they will repeat and buy through us and I. That’s kind of our goal. And you know, we’ll, we’ll sell tires too because you run through the tires maybe like the wheels just repeat purchase like that. And it’s, it’s cool to kind of grow and have a, a family of customers and you know, not just buy from once and see you later.

Sean P. Holman (19m 5s):

Well I think it’s great the, you know, we, we talked about how many brands you have, but you guys were one of the first to actually step up and do aftermarket sizes really in both directions, right? I, Mean, there’s, there’s plenty of mail order Tire and Wheel companies out there, but they weren’t servicing the enthusiast. And to your point about being enthusiasts is you guys have the information on what hits what fits and also so many different

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 27s):

Choices. I like Did you, did you just make that up? What hits? What fits

Sean P. Holman (19m 29s):

It’s from

Sam Lowe (19m 30s):

I like that. That was good.

Sean P. Holman (19m 31s):

Yeah. I, that was from Four Wheeler Magazine. My, my previous home. We had a, a series of stories we called What Hits What Fits.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 39s):

I’m giving you authorization Sam to use that.

Sam Lowe (19m 43s):

Perfect, perfect. I’m writing it down right now.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 45s):

Don don’t, I don’t have it ’cause that wasn holman’s. But so you guys have some pretty like hardcore old school brands too. Just not the the new stuff like Fuel, but you have Centerline, you’ve got

Sean P. Holman (19m 56s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (19m 57s):

Ragger like, so it’s not just

Sean P. Holman (19m 60s):

Roush, you know, you got things like that, you know, from, from some of those companies that are like OE companies that do upfits and have like an aftermarket following

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (20m 7s):

Dude, Anky fuss. Fond

Sean P. Holman (20m 8s):

Metal. Yeah. Yankee’s awesome.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (20m 10s):

Fittipaldi. Oh dude. Fitty

Sean P. Holman (20m 11s):

Fitty Indies. Dude. I had Fit Indies.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (20m 13s):

Yes, I had Fitty Indies on, wait, that’s the five Spoke, right? Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (20m 15s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (20m 16s):

Had those on my 1980. What that wasn that. Yeah. 84 Accord.

Sean P. Holman (20m 20s):

But do they have the, the Ron Gummy Bear or the Daisies?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (20m 25s):

I hope not.

Sam Lowe (20m 26s):

So we got Heart Wheels though from Heritage. If you want something kind of crazy, we got those

Sean P. Holman (20m 30s):

Wheel Wheel too. Wheel. All right. Yeah.

Sam Lowe (20m 32s):

So those are actually like, they Un or launched those for like the Jeep market a little while back and it exploded in popularity. I was like, oh, go figure. Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (20m 41s):

And then you’ve got some of the, the new kind of exploding lines like JTX forged, which when I went to Florida Truck Meet Yep. Last year GTX was all over the place. Kind of like I think they’re taking over where American Force was kind of leaving off. I I, I feel like American Force kind of don don’t know, once they joined the Wheel Pros brands, the marketing shifted tx

Sean P. Holman (21m 6s):

Well the, the difference was was they were a standalone company. They had a private owner that put all their eggs into that marketing basket and really became big and then they got bought by a VC who, who gobbled them up. And then there’s different priorities within the company. And so that, that happens in the automotive aftermarket space. So it’s good to see another brand kind of come in and, and take off where they left off because I think they had made great inroads into pushing the boundary for truck owners American Force. Yeah. Oh for sure. And they were, they were the

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (21m 33s):

Go-to, for some, some of my favorite wheels that I’ve, they’ve ever owned on, on the Rock Crusher.

Sean P. Holman (21m 36s):

So what’s the process? I have a truck. I am either lifted it or maybe it’s just my OE set of wheels and tires and they’re just worn out and I wanna do an upgrade, I go to SD Wheel dot com and then what’s the process for using the website to actually figure out what the right choice is? Maybe I have an idea in my mind, but I wanna look at a bunch of different wheels and and see what might be my favorite.

Sam Lowe (21m 57s):

Yeah, so actually this is, the way I found this job here is I was looking for new wheels and tires for my F-150 had at the time and found SD Wheel and just entered the year Meg model. Found a whole bunch of stuff and I was like, Hey, you know, go to the Wheel store. This is all what fits. Either, you know, open in different tabs or like select with which one you want and then go through the buying process or you know, if you’re on custom offsets, we got the gallery there that’s super popular for a way for something to go in there and enter your make model and you can see everything everyone else has done. You can even click one button and say buy this exact package and it’ll look just like it.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 30s):

How though do you navigate if you say, I want a old school five spoke Wheel, or I want a forged Wheel. It’s in a, in a good you almost have

Sean P. Holman (22m 39s):

Too much stuff so

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 40s):

There’s almost too much. Yeah. I Mean there really is. It’s all alphabetical. If you go to brands, it’s ev, I, Mean. I’m seeing every, every one of my favorite brands here. They have Vos and they have vol, they have Weld, they have works, they have everything. The xd, they have all my, all of ’em, they have

Sean P. Holman (22m 54s):

Tires are just the same B FG and Toyo Falcon and crap

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (22m 57s):

Crap. So, but how do you, other than spending a week or a month doing research, is there a whoa, whoa,

Sean P. Holman (23m 3s):

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, as well as I do that most enthusiasts love spending a week or a month doing research. That’s true. So, so I think this site’s pleasure for that.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 11s):

Is there, is there like a hot, like a, like a tip that, like a secret

Sean P. Holman (23m 15s):

For navigating to find navigation?

Sam Lowe (23m 18s):

So I’ll give you some insider information here for just you and your listeners, ah, or anyone who’s, who’s gonna go on there. So what I like to do is if you kind of, if you’re an enthusiast, you’re like, alright, I kind of know what I want, but you know how it is, you wanna look, you wanna browse and see what else is there. So you can either go with the filters, go really exact to what you’re looking for or open them up a little bit and there’s tons of different filters, either, whether it’s price, size, finish, brand, all of that are within there. And you can choose as many as want or as few as you want to kind of help narrow those choices down. ’cause you, as you guys are saying, it’s insane, like how much does catalog I Mean? It’s hard to find something that we don’t have truthfully on there

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (23m 55s):

Now. So what is the process? I have found my wheels after six months of debating which ones I’m gonna get. Right. And then I’ve, and I’ve chosen the tire and I’ve, I’ve confirmed that that fitment. I, I like, I got cold feet so I called and you guys Nope, nope. It fits. We’ve run those before. Buy ’em. So I do, when they show up, are they on a pallet? How do I put ’em on? Do they come with lug nuts?

Sam Lowe (24m 16s):

Yeah. So if you go through, you buy everything, it’s gonna, if you get wheels and tires and they’re mounted balance balanced, well we do that free obviously we will ship it to you. It’ll come on a pallet obviously kind of determine like it matters, you know, what size you’re getting from, how it’s gonna be delivered. But you’ll have a truck pull up and they’ll unload it for you. And then you will get the Wheel entire package, put it right on your truck and you can choose to have it come with TPMS installed. Like this is all during the checkout process with lug nuts. Right. And there’s other accessories like str coating two to make it easier to keep those wheels clean, but whatever you choose, it’ll come all packaged in one neat package. You unwrap a whole bunch of strand wrap and you’re there.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (24m 53s):

Wow. So wait a minute. I didn’t even think about TPMS. That’s like a whole nother wrinkle. Yep. Oh yeah. So you have to offer all the different makes and models of TPMS sensors.

Sam Lowe (25m 1s):

Oh yeah, yeah. That’s, that’s something that we have to do and obviously keep up on too because it’s, you know, ever evolving and you know, obviously all modern vehicles have that. So that’s a big thing for us to offer as well. Because you go a tire shop, that’s an added price too for you. You, you have to get that programmed. Go through a whole hassle.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (25m 18s):

How do I,

Sean P. Holman (25m 19s):

Well And I was gonna add also when it comes to TPM s, a lot of people are gonna sell their OE takeoffs and they’re less valuable if you rob the TPMS sensors to put ’em on. Yep. Your new wheels. So the fact that they offer ’em Yep. Means you’re gonna get more money and you can offset the cost of your new wheels by selling your old ones. ’cause they come complete. That’s, that’s something people don’t think about. You found on the secret. Yeah,

Sam Lowe (25m 40s):

You found the secret. That’s it. That’s, yeah. And it’s funny ’cause a lot of people post stuff and it’s like, I found these new wheels on custom offices or SD post ’em for sale and they, they’re showing what they’re trying to get. Yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (25m 49s):

No Holman’s a pro at offer up. Like he’s, he’s no joke. Like

Sean P. Holman (25m 53s):

Yeah, I always get the guy, you guys got

Sam Lowe (25m 54s):

A good area for that dude.

Sean P. Holman (25m 55s):

I was $50 away from some dude And. he goes, you gonna walk away from this deal for 50 bucks? I’m like, you gonna walk away from this product for 50 bucks? And that wasn like a standoff. Wow. So I’m like, no, that’s what I told you why I already came down for you. That’s my bottom value. He was like, well I can’t do it. I go, really? You can’t do 50 more dollars? I go, we we were 350 more expensive And we got down to here. He’s like, Nope. Week later he is like, hey there’s the pro still available. Did you really? Yep. Yeah he came back. That’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (26m 22s):

Right. Wow. We waited how long? A week. A week.

Sean P. Holman (26m 25s):

A week. He

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (26m 25s):

Was sweating that wasn. He was sweating it. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (26m 28s):

And then I, well I put, I knew he was in the ether so I dropped the price like 50 bucks off the listing. And so that guy’s going, oh dude, I had it less than that. He only dropped it 50 bucks. Now a hundred more people are gonna contact him. Boom. Yeah, you create urgency. That’s how you move, move the goods.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (26m 44s):

How going back to TPMS do they automatically sync with my car? don don’t even know how that works. Like I bolt the wheels on, but am I getting a light on my dashboard that says go to the dealer or what?

Sam Lowe (26m 55s):

Nope. So when you buy from us, we will have you enter in, you know, at the start of it or at the end of the checkout process depending on how you found the wheels and tires entering your year make model. And then when you choose TPMS, we already got your information for what your vehicle is. So then when it goes through our system, we program the TPS based on that. And you’re all set. Don’t have to do anything once you get ’em.

Sean P. Holman (27m 16s):

You guys also have a educational section of the website under blogs, which is one of your navigation dropdowns. And there’s actually a lot of great articles in here. Top five Jeep wheels are OE replica wheels worth it. Which is actually a great topic because OE replica wheels are a big deal, especially if you’ve got a, a lower trim and you want your truck to look nice, but you don’t want to shell out all the money for either the sporty trim or the the luxury trim you guys have. Even here’s my favorite one, what is Carolina’s Squat?

Sam Lowe (27m 45s):

I was gonna say. You

Sean P. Holman (27m 45s):

Guys see that one?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (27m 46s):

Oh no.

Sean P. Holman (27m 47s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (27m 48s):


Sean P. Holman (27m 49s):

There we go. Even if you haven’t heard the phrase Carolina squat, you’ve probably seen these build so that you know, and it’s, it’s great. There’s a lot of people who are, who are going through that. you guys have a lot of stuff on on muscle cars and JDM cars and, and even just the family hauler. You’ve got a a great story on what are the best snow tires for your car truck or SUV. So just that knowledge base from your content in in articles under your blogs is, is gonna be really valuable to somebody who is trying to figure it out. And there’s fitment guides 21 to 22 F-150 Fit Fitment guide, fourth gen Ram fitment guide. So just a ton of great information for for people to figure out. Yep.

Sam Lowe (28m 23s):

And all this stuff’s written by real enthusiasts too. So it’s something that we verify and we’re passionate about. Sometimes I can tell who wrote it depending on what brands are suggesting. I’m like, who really? Like 1552. So you always plug those, we all have our biases. We dunno how that works.

Sean P. Holman (28m 36s):

Getting that kickback.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (28m 37s):

So you’re probably seeing trends arise, right? You’re seeing bubble because you, you’re looking at the reports. Yep. As the marketing director you’re seeing, all right, we sold an extra 75 sets of X wheels. Right? Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (28m 50s):

Are you like on the bleeding edge of what’s coming? And then do you guys, do you talk with the, the, the planning on, you know, for stocking SKUs like hey this Trend black wheels are out and bronze wheels are in or whatever the case may be. I, Mean. I have to imagine the amount of product you move. You’ve got a pretty good pulse on the industry. Yeah,

Sam Lowe (29m 7s):

I like to think we do and since we are really enthusiast driven where we get kind of the people, you know, just putting a same size Wheel or tire combo that’s stock on their vehicle, just swap into something aftermarket. But we get a lot of those enthusiast sizes. So a lot of times when we talk with manufacturers, whether it’s wheels or tires, they like us ’cause it’s like you guys saw the interesting stuff and like the stuff that the market’s really pushing towards. So we get have those conversations and see those trends come through. Whether it’s, you know, colorways of wheels, styles of wheels, you know, things even more simple, less busy or when it comes to just tires, if it’s like more stretch or you know, more off-road style. Just kind of what we’re seeing through the market. And it is really cool to be able to sit in my spot and be able to see that because as a car and truck enthusiast, it’s just kind of nerdy and it’s cool to say, Ooh I think this is about what’s gonna be hot and then be right with all my friends and they’re on.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (29m 54s):

So let’s talk about a couple of these trends. So you know, when Holden and I started the podcast back in 1971, there like

Sean P. Holman (30m 2s):

Lava was cooling back then, right?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (30m 4s):

Right. There was no Carolina squat thing. Well It was just that wasn. Well

Sean P. Holman (30m 8s):

No there was It was just in Carolina though, right?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (30m 10s):

Well that wasn for bro broadcast trucks.

Sean P. Holman (30m 12s):

It hadn’t gotten down to Florida yet in Georgia and where

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (30m 14s):

The leaf springs had broken and the guy just kept rolling it, right? Yeah. Nobody,

Sam Lowe (30m 17s):

Yeah. Yep.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (30m 18s):

So like the Florida scene really, it actually was around the time that we started the podcast five, six years ago when at that time like 20 sixes, 16 wide, like where the, the super negative offset sticking way outside. To me those trucks look like a tree frog where the legs are just way out, you know, farther than the body. Is that scene gonna stick around forever? Do you think, are you still really moving a lot of those wheels with a lot of lip, a lot of negative offset? What are you seeing on that particular southern look? Because it’s come out here now, like it took almost three years to make its way from like Florida the panhandle out this way to California. Yep,

Sam Lowe (30m 58s):

Absolutely A Trend that we still see, you know, with that also the obviously lifted trucks are huge, you can fit the bigger wheels on it, but you know the lowered more street, street style truck, that’s when that’s kind of coming back. I Mean, you look at everything that’s cool 20 years ago kind of comes in a cycle and it kind of comes through both with more of like a modern take. So that’s some of the stuff that we’re seeing now. And and the other thing, you know, that I think we’ve all been aware of is, you know, after 2020 it’s like everyone’s like, oh I can go outside and go use my vehicles. So that whole kinda like overlanding off-road style had, was became really popular and that’s really stuck through and you can see some of the OEMs now putting some like off-road packages on vehicles that are just gonna see pavement their whole life.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (31m 37s):

Oh for sure. So you’re seeing like pre COVI lot of show trucks guys just stunting on the beach whatever with huge wheels. Again this, this is a niche, but huge wheels, rubber band tires not really usable for off-Road. Are you seeing some of those same customers going to more sidewall, smaller Wheel giving up the stunting? I

Sam Lowe (31m 59s):

I think no, the stunters be stunting tho those guys are, those guys are still out there.

Sean P. Holman (32m 4s):

That needs to be a T-shirt. Adding that to our T-shirt.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (32m 6s):

Hold on. Hold on a second. Sam, we gotta write that down. Stunters be

Sean P. Holman (32m 9s):

Stunt stunting stunt. Yeah,

Sam Lowe (32m 10s):

That’s great. There you go. Perfect. So yeah, I, Mean, those those guys you know are diehard And, that scene is still huge and I think it’s becoming that is it is growing ’cause I, Mean social media, TikTok, Instagram reels, all that stuff, you, you guys see it, it helps like spread, you know, that sort of culture. But coming out of 2020 you had a whole bunch of people that may not have been enthusiast or said they would, but they want to go do something or you know, they’re seeing how cool those Tacomas or four owners look with that off-Road look, even though maybe they’re not gonna go do that. So it kind of inspired them. So we saw a new wave of enthusiasts say kind of come through those would, and that’s been kind of cool to see the

Sean P. Holman (32m 44s):

Faux Wheel Wheel drive guys the faux Wheel drive. Yes.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (32m 48s):

Wheel not, not four Wheel Wheel,

Sean P. Holman (32m 49s):

Not four faux Wheel. Yeah. Yeah,

Sam Lowe (32m 51s):

I like that. I like that, that that should be like a instead of four Wheel drive on a back of truck should say that. That’d Wheel

Sean P. Holman (32m 56s):

Wouldn’t be awesome.

Sam Lowe (32m 58s):

Oh yeah. That’s kinda what we’re seeing. And, and on the, on the car side too, ’cause you know, trucks are huge, but I’m asking you who sell the cars too. It’s, you know, every scene you can imagine it, it’s growing I Mean. JDM is what’s cool right now and we’re seeing a huge resurgence in that.

Sean P. Holman (33m 12s):

Oh dude, my wife wants a late eighties Honda Hatchie like nobody’s business. And back when I was a JDM and Honda guy at a a, a Civic 2000 civic si brand new that I bought my first car that wasn a 87 Honda Accord, all my buddies had hatches with B 16 or B 18 swaps in them. And every once in a while you see that there’s actually a, a, a friend of ours, Randy, who used to be on one of the discovery programs as an appraiser And, he just found example of the two engine Moin CRX. Wow. And he’s restoring it right now and detailing it. And so whoa. Yeah. Yeah. The JDM stuff is, is so rad.

Sean P. Holman (33m 53s):

And if my basically my wife said, listen, if you find a hatchie And, we have the money and you bring it home and it’s a stick and it’s clean and it’s nice. She goes, I won’t even yell at you, but I will drive it the next day. So that’s the one thing that she’s given me permission to buy without her, without having to check with her.

Sam Lowe (34m 12s):

Nice. I know. Yeah. That’s, that’s, that’s handy.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (34m 15s):

I I wanna go back to the trends that you were, you, you’re watching, you’re following here. What are the most modified American trucks? Like, are you seeing Fords more modified than Chevys? More modified than Rams? I feel like dur like, like Chevys are more Wheel and tired up than Fords. Are

Sean P. Holman (34m 37s):

We doing this again? I think So are we doing this or I think where lighting decides that there’s one brand that is completely a hundred percent more modified than the others?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (34m 44s):

I wanna see if Sam has an opinion. Okay,

Sam Lowe (34m 47s):

So I have an answer. Oh, not just an opinion. So I, I wanna know what, what do you guys think? Let’s, let’s go with this. If you

Sean P. Holman (34m 54s):

Listen to Lightning, he doesn’t think F1 fifties are modified.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (34m 57s):

So here’s the thing before you answer Sam, I believe that, so Ford is always touting that it’s the number one pickup truck in, in America, right? If not the world. And I think, yep, because the Ford F-150 is full. Like every fleet, every Verizon truck has a Ford F-150, you know, it’s all fleet. And by the way,

Sean P. Holman (35m 14s):

I’m standing by Sam because I wanna do the caveat that lightning’s not gonna deliver to you in his bias speech that

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (35m 19s):

He’s gonna No, no. So I

Sean P. Holman (35m 20s):

Think his diatribe is, is going to be completely constructed for his very narrow point of view. And so we’ll have to fix that

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (35m 26s):

Again. So listen, listen, listen. When I, when I say Maed here you go

Sean P. Holman (35m 30s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (35m 31s):

Caveats. Oh God, yeah. Yes, yes. There’s a caveat Mod. Mod is for coolness, mod is not for roof rack. So I can carry a ladder. All right. Mod is not a, a tube on a rack. So I can put a broom upside down truck Show

Sean P. Holman (35m 46s):

Podcast at A mod is a mod

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (35m 49s):

No, i a mod is something that you want not to have.

Sean P. Holman (35m 52s):

Mod stands for modification.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (35m 54s):

I understand that. So you’re

Sean P. Holman (35m 55s):

Gonna take your stock vehicle that doesn’t do what it’s supposed to do for you and change it. That’s, that’s modified for, for

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (35m 60s):

A cool factor. I’m mod I’m putting suspension on. So I can rock crawl. I’m buying wheels and tires ’cause they look good.

Sean P. Holman (36m 5s):

I’m buying a rack because not only do I carry my ladders and lumber to the job site, but I also carry my kayak on weekends and my paddleboard because I have one truck to do it all. And Lightning, you don’t get to dismiss my lifestyle.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (36m 18s):

Yes I do because don don’t think that you are. I I don don’t think there’s a ton of overlap between the guy that carries a kayak. Ah, And. he has

Sean P. Holman (36m 25s):

A roof. You don’t think that’s I? think that’s your own Lightning bias. That’s Sam enough of Lightning. Tell us what the most modified truck that you guys see at SD. Wheel is.

Sam Lowe (36m 35s):

So the most modified truck that we see is actually the Ford F-150. That’s it.

Sean P. Holman (36m 40s):

Hold on. My bells stuck. My bell stuck because we have had this argument over and over again throughout the years. Yeah. And I cannot tell you how happy you’ve just made me Sam

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (36m 49s):

I think Sam’s flying

Sean P. Holman (36m 51s):

Of course. Alright, let’s, let’s see if Lightning has a prayer, what’s number two?

Sam Lowe (36m 57s):

Number two is what we really see is like the Silverado 1500. So from Chevy, okay, obviously, okay. That’s what we see as number two.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (37m 4s):

And that’s because Silverado 1500 is the second most popular truck. Or is

Sean P. Holman (37m 8s):

That because Lightning thinks it’s already cool from the factory? More cool than a Ford. It

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (37m 13s):

Is I Mean Ford, Ford

Sam Lowe (37m 14s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (37m 15s):

Stock Ford Wheel suck balls. You know it.

Sean P. Holman (37m 18s):

No, there’s some nice wheels. Oh,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (37m 20s):

They’re weak

Sean P. Holman (37m 20s):

Off. No. Have you best No, no. Like a Chevy HD that has like zero offset and a, or a, I’m sorry. A high offset with a flat face on it with I’m

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (37m 28s):

Not saying with no texture saying Well, Hold on a second. I’m not saying that all Chevy wheels are awesome. I’m just saying that most forward forward wheels suck.

Sean P. Holman (37m 33s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (37m 35s):

Raptor wheels are okay-ish.

Sean P. Holman (37m 37s):

Belaw capable,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (37m 39s):

But they’re not attractive. They, they belaw

Sean P. Holman (37m 40s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (37m 41s):


Sean P. Holman (37m 41s):

Not great looking. But that’s, I don’t I think they’re good looking. They’re

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (37m 44s):


Sean P. Holman (37m 45s):

Bringing technology from the aftermarket to their

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (37m 47s):

Wheel. No, no, I’m, I’m, I’m putting ’em on offer up and I’m going SD Wheel dot com to buy a real set of

Sean P. Holman (37m 51s):

Wheels. That’s fair.

Sam Lowe (37m 54s):

I I I’m gonna weigh in here. I’m just gonna say that I think Chevy has better OEM looking wheels than Ford does. Thank you.

Sean P. Holman (37m 59s):

Yes. Agreed.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (37m 60s):

So yes, yes,

Sean P. Holman (38m 1s):

Yes. All right. See there lighting, get the hash of his column too.

Sam Lowe (38m 4s):

We get a little bonus point. ’cause also when we’re talking like OEM replica wheels, you like the snowflake getting chrome snowflakes, you know, bigger sizes, that’s like the most popular one and that’s just a really cool looking Wheel, especially if you want your truck to look a little bit different, but not like a really, like, oh wow that thing’s super modified sort of look

Sean P. Holman (38m 19s):

And I kind of like some of the OE replica wheels where maybe that wasn only offered in a 17 or an 18 from the factory and you really want that Wheel, but you want a 20, it’s nice to have a quality replica Wheel in the size you want. So it still has the same vibe, but you are getting that more performance tire, that lower sidewall, that better handling if that’s what you want. and I know there’s a lot of guys like me that really do appreciate that that OE

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (38m 43s):

Look Sam who’s making, what brands should we be looking at for OE replicas.

Sam Lowe (38m 50s):

So if you actually go to our, the s sc Wheel website Yep. And go under OE replicas, it, it truly kind of depends on what you’re looking for because different brands will specialize in like different styles where you’ll have multiple snowflake, you know, options. Or what’s really popular too is for like Chargers and Hellcats is those like OM styles, but in some bigger, larger sizes. So it kind of, I hate to say it’s kind of a cop out answer, but it depends on what you’re looking for.

Sean P. Holman (39m 15s):

Alright, so along the same lines, are there any up and coming Wheel brands that you guys are seeing that if somebody’s in the market and they’re like, Hey, I want something different, something that’s kind of freshy fresh as Lightning would say, is there some brands that are trending upward that you’re seeing some more popularity as people are, are are updating their new trucks

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (39m 34s):

So our listeners can get in on the early stages Exactly. And not look like everyone.

Sam Lowe (39m 39s):

Yeah, so it’s kind of gonna depend like which route you’re going with with the trucks, but this is gonna sound like a shameful plug, not shameless, but I will say our own bla brands, Aon and Anthem on the truck side. So Arcons like that more show style and anthem’s more of kind the off road look to it really going into popularity. Arcons been super popular for a long time since it debuted with their proper directional wheels. So left and right sides are actually different molds. So there’s, they are directional, they swoop in the same way either side of the vehicle really gaining popularity. And it’s really cool every quarter to see that amount grow And. we actually, we don’t just track like how many wheels we sell. We actually track like to us how many trucks are on the road with those wheels.

Sam Lowe (40m 22s):

And it’s cool to see it grow every quarter.

Sean P. Holman (40m 24s):

Oh that’s pretty cool. I Mean that, that’s gotta give you a lot of data that I Mean, you would expect to have that kind of data from like a SEMA or somebody like that and to be able to have enough customers and really the variety that you sell it. I I bet your data’s pretty valuable to partners as well.

Sam Lowe (40m 39s):

Yeah. I, Mean, we are, we’re nerds. I Mean, I’m a car enthusiast, truck enthusiast. But like I’m a data nerd and that’s kind of really what we like to operate because you, on our website you can see like a whole bunch of filters. You can be like, man, these guys love numbers. And, we do And. that that’s how we kind of got everything going and, and keep it running the way it is.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (40m 55s):

So when you roll through the Seima show, right, which is an industry show and you’re gonna go to the south hall to the lower level on the south hall and do you just roll through and go, I’ll take those, I’ll take those, I’ll take those, I’ll take this entire booth, I’ll take that. Like how do you think you could just take ’em? Well, you know what I’m saying? He orders them, right?

Sam Lowe (41m 14s):

Yeah. So it’s I Mean, it’s, you feel like a kid in a candy shop. I’m sure you guys feel the same way. We’re like, this is cool, this is cool, this is cool. And you’re like three booths in and it’s been like an hour.

Sean P. Holman (41m 24s):

Yeah. but yeah, we know the feeling. It

Sam Lowe (41m 25s):

It, yeah. And that’s why what s really cool about, it’s to talk to the manufacturers of, hey, what’s new, what’s cool, what are you guys seeing? And then, you know, they’re asking us the same question and that’s the time when, you know, we really use it to work with those manufacturers. And, we sit down with all of our suppliers and have meetings. So I, if you see me at sema, I’m like running around looking at all the cool stuff and then sitting down for meetings and going through that and talking about what we’re gonna do in the next year with these people.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (41m 50s):

So I would imagine that SD Wheel has some sway, some pull some swagger. If you guys order a C container full of whatever the Wheel is, like you can make or break some of the smaller brands and you could set the Trend. Like have you seen that happen where you order a sea container of whatever?

Sean P. Holman (42m 13s):

Did you just ask, have you seen how he’s been a tastemaker or ruins people’s businesses? Yes. I was wondering if you were trying to get there because

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (42m 21s):

Like I, I imagine that I’m a mom and Pop Wheel brand and I And, I’m calling up Sam going, please, well, I, it wouldn’t be Sam. I’m sure one of his, his counterparts. But you gotta look at our wheels we’re the freshest stuff out there. What’s American made and whatever, whatever their song and dance is, right? And you’re like, you know, we’re not ready yet. He’s like, blah, please.

Sean P. Holman (42m 38s):

No, no. You know what it is? It’s like you shut him down. It’s the SEMA booth and SD Wheel walks out and the sales guy And that manufacturer and like the president share a glance across the booth and the sales guy looks at the president, just shakes his head slowly back and forth. And he iss like Sam said down,

Sam Lowe (42m 55s):

He got the thumbs down. Oh no,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (42m 56s):

That’s right.

Sean P. Holman (42m 58s):

No, I, I have to imagine that you, you guys get to do a lot of really cool stuff and, and again, to Lightning’s point, make or break some, well I will hold

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (43m 7s):

On some wheels. Hold on. Make Sam answer. Do you make or break any, any brands?

Sam Lowe (43m 13s):

So I will say what will happen is sometimes when we say how much of something we want to order or what our, you know, our forecast is, sometimes you get to like the eyebrow of like, are you serious? Like, there’s a zero on there. I’m not used to seeing like, that’s crazy. But it’s, it’s exciting to work with those companies. And the really cool thing is when someone like debut a new Wheel and we’re really moving it a lot to, you know, get on the phone with ’em, be like, Hey, this is really exciting. It’s moving really well for us, really well for you. You gotta, you know, a new hot Wheel on here. It’s cool to see that into the market.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (43m 44s):

That’s awesome. I

Sean P. Holman (43m 45s):

Just wanted to go through the accessories one more time. If you go through the website, you’ve got, you know, obviously suspension, we talked about that. But performance products, engine performance intake, drive line brakes, exhaust tuners and gauges. You’ve got under aftermarket car and truck lighting, exterior lighting, off, off-road. Lighting, lighting, accessories, do it yourself. LED strips and auxiliary lighting. You guys have exterior, you know, body accessories like armor and tonnes and flares, bumpers, things like that. I Mean, you guys offer all sorts of interior. So protection mat storage. And then you also have things that you’d expect like Wheel spacers and adapters, lug nuts, which are really important if your aftermarket Wheel doesn’t use an OEM lug nut Yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (44m 28s):

It is a conical or is it

Sean P. Holman (44m 29s):

Tap or is it an aco? Yeah, I. Mean. There there are, is your Wheel hub centric? Is it lug centric? That’s gonna change some stuff. So the fact that people don’t always realize they need a new lug nut when they buy some aftermarket wheels, you guys have that covered. But then also you’ve got a, they

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (44m 43s):

Might need the spacer ring that you, to make it hub centric because you don’t get the exactly the right centering ring. You’re gonna have problems, all my God. You’re gonna be like wobbling not.

Sean P. Holman (44m 51s):

Yeah. And then Of course a lot of truck cleaning products as well. So you guys have, you know, all the things that are gonna make your wheels last, whether it’s a tire shine and protection kit for painted polished in Chrome. Can

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (45m 4s):

We spend about half an hour talking about Morimoto LEDs?

Sean P. Holman (45m 8s):

No. Please. Why?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (45m 10s):

’cause I love Morimoto. My favorite brand? No,

Sean P. Holman (45m 12s):

Because this is about SD. Wheel Lightning. No, but

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (45m 14s):

They sell Morimoto. Well,

Sean P. Holman (45m 15s):

Oh yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (45m 16s):


Sam Lowe (45m 16s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (45m 16s):

Sell a lot of Morimoto, I’m telling you. So I found that brand a couple years back. And I was using like the, the, the German brands that were familiar with it came OE Honors And. I’m like, don don’t really wanna spend the money on, on on the German brands, the Boschs or whatever they were. and I tried Maori Moto. I’m like, these are freaking awesome. And they didn’t burn out. They, they were Hi. Before there were LEDs Of course and with bad Hids you’d get like a year and a half out of them and they, all of a sudden they would just, you’d be driving down the street and just gone, right? Just out. And you’d have to change the ballast or the igniter or whatever. Morimoto’s Crush. That’s all I’m saying. If you’re looking for a set of

Sean P. Holman (45m 56s):

SD Wheel dot

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (45m 56s):

Com or, or yeah. Or hids SD

Sean P. Holman (45m 58s):

Wheel dot com and, and I also like that, if you scroll down to the bottom, to the boilerplate on SD Wheel dot com talks about their story, but also gives an address not open to the public, but they actually have a physical address as well as customer service hours and sales hours. How to contact them. It’s not like they’re hiding behind the website like so many companies do. So, alright, well if you guys are looking for truck accessories, wheels, tires, suspension, on and on, you wanna check out SD Wheel dot com. They’re also on Instagram and Facebook and TikTok and all the places that, that you’d expect them to be. And again,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (46m 32s):

Sam, any, any bombs you can drop about SD, anything that’s coming up here soon. Like any debuts we should know about, be looking for.

Sam Lowe (46m 40s):

I will say with Aon Anthem and Innovia, we’re always making new Wheel designs because you know, you gotta push the envelope. You see the trends, like what do you need to capitalize on it? We got some new Wheel designs in the work from the, from each of those brands. So kind of stay tuned. We’ll trickle those out for the probably next, you know, starting in the fall through that time period. But we have some fun announcements for that. Anthem just launched a new Wheel called the Talon that I am probably gonna put on the Tacoma And. we actually have some different sizes coming on that in the different colorways too.

Sean P. Holman (47m 10s):

And don’t forget, they will mount and balance and ship wheels for free. So again, for all your needs with wheels and tires, truck Show Podcast says, go see SD Wheel dot com.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (47m 21s):

Dude, do you know? I bet Sam doesn’t know that. So after I got my HR EI know this is like the 80th time I mentioned that brand. Hold on. So, so a dude went to, he Googled And, he came across truck Show Podcast dot com, And. he went to our build page, he saw the wheels and then he messaged me through Instagram,

Sean P. Holman (47m 38s):

Said, where can I buy

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (47m 38s):

’em? He didn’t know about the podcast. Yep. He found the podcast. We got a new listener out of it. Then he And, he messaged me And. he goes, we have the same truck. How do you like your wheels? I’m like, I love ’em And. he goes, where’d you get ’em? I said, SD. Wheel. There you go. He bought ’em literally from SD Wheel. This is before we knew Sam. See, I’m just saying crazy.

Sean P. Holman (47m 56s):

Love it. I’m just

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (47m 56s):


Sam Lowe (47m 56s):

Appreciate it. Definitely appreciate it. Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (47m 59s):

Awesome. You’re doing great work, Sam, keep it up and congrats on the success. Yeah, we appreciate

Sean P. Holman (48m 3s):

You carving out some time for us.

Sam Lowe (48m 4s):

Awesome. Thanks for having me guys. I really appreciate it. All right,

Sean P. Holman (48m 7s):

Talk. Thanks bud.

Sam Lowe (48m 8s):

Alright, take care guys. See ya.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (48m 10s):

So here’s the million dollar question. Holman, let’s say you win the lottery. What wheels are you buying off? SD Wheel dot com.

Sean P. Holman (48m 18s):

I haven’t decided, but I haven’t narrowed down to about 50 different

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (48m 21s):

Styles there. So, okay, great.

8 (48m 22s):

Welcome to the Parts department.

9 (48m 25s):

Screw nut filter oil grill tools, the Polar Depart Wheels, tires, braces, lice, ears, belts, the Polar department

10 (48m 37s):

And your wife warns you not to

11 (48m 41s):

Y’all to spend that money. And then your wanna come

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (48m 44s):

Back. Now this is the Parts Department 2.0. It’s, it’s the, the new all new Parts Department where we highlight,

Sean P. Holman (48m 50s):

Actually tell

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (48m 50s):

You about parts. We actually tell you about parts rather than checking in with a single manufacturer. We find it’s

Sean P. Holman (48m 55s):

Like the front of a Magazine where there’s a bunch of new products. That’s what this part is. I like that.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (48m 58s):

Okay, what you got,

Sean P. Holman (49m 0s):

So announcement just went out this, this past week where Jeep Performance Parts has a new upgraded two inch lift kit from Mopar for the Wrangler JL and Gladiator jt. And they have removed the previous supplier on such vehicle and are replacing them with new bilstein mono tube shocks with remote reservoirs. And it’ll give you a better performance for larger wheels and tires. So it looks like 51 sixties all the way around. They’re the 46 millimeters. Okay, so the, the 51 sixties come with remote reservoir for more oil capacity, better heat dissipation.

Sean P. Holman (49m 43s):

And there’s a unique swivel banjo fitting that allows for 360 degree rotation of the flex hose for direct fitment. And it also protects the reservoir oil line from contact. And the new bolt on JPP lift kit is installed in all those stock mounting locations. And yeah, I think the things that I have been hearing from the people I know who have tested this, the difference from the old Mopar kit to the new Mopar hit by putting the Bill Steins on there, which are tuned specifically for that kit is not,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (50m 18s):

It’s massive.

Sean P. Holman (50m 19s):

Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna say not insignificant, right? But I Mean, it’s, it’s, it’s a lot. So if you’re looking for a factory lift kit, this is probably a pretty good one for, for people to check out. You can buy it from your dealer and they fit the Wrangler four-door with the three six, the two liter, the EcoDiesel or the 2.0 liter E torque Wrangler two door with the three six or the two oh Turbo or the Jeep Gladiator with the three six V six or the three liter EcoDiesel. So those are all the applications it covers.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (50m 49s):

When do we know? Now? Now go

Sean P. Holman (50m 52s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (50m 52s):

It. Okay. All I can think about though, Holman is the fact that I suck because Africa, our buddy at Bilstein Yeah. That was here in studio with us. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (51m 2s):

In fact, I’m gonna be on their podcast later in the month.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 6s):

He emailed Shock Talk and said Shock talk is a cool, that’s a cool name. Yeah. He emailed me and said, Hey can I get the hookup on some Banks parts? Okay. and I forgot to email ’em back.

Sean P. Holman (51m 18s):

Damnit. Wow. Damnit is, damn. Do you, do you have those parts that he’s looking for?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 23s):

Yes I do. Oh,

Sean P. Holman (51m 24s):

Well then

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 24s):

You, I’m gonna hook him up. I love the guy. He’s

Sean P. Holman (51m 26s):

Awesome then you’re just a, but

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 28s):

I just forgot to reply.

Sean P. Holman (51m 29s):

Dammit Bastard who lies, what else do you have? Okay, looking at new products, you had sent me something earlier in the week about EGRU s a and Of course. You’ve got a EGR tonneau cover on yours. So I

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 43s):

Have the roll track and I’m on their mailing list because I actually, so I’m just throwing it out there,

Sean P. Holman (51m 49s):

Throwing it out there.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 50s):

We are not shills, I’m telling you that if we don’t like something, we

Sean P. Holman (51m 54s):

Don’t talk about

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (51m 54s):

It. We will not talk about it. There are a lot of brands we don’t talk about. I just have to say this again, that roll track is the best tono cover I’ve ever owned, I’ve ever installed and I’ve ever owned. I’m just, it’s, it is more expensive than most Tono covers. It ain’t cheap, but man, do you get what you pay for?

Sean P. Holman (52m 13s):

Well that’s nice for you RAM people. But they just announced that that cover’s now available for the Chevy 1500 and for a limited time they’ve got a 30% offer. And they call it the world’s smartest bed cover, unbeatable three year warranty, aluminum construction for security. There’s a smaller canister that holds the roll, the rolled top in order to make more room in the bed. Integrated central locking, there’s onboard button. So you don’t need a remote universal T rails. So you can mount accessories like roof bed rack bars and things like that. There’s a open closed anti pinch feature and there’s a smart ECU with variable speed control and on top of that OEM quality and it is made right here in America. So if you’re looking for a high end ’cause it is, but probably the best tono you’ll ever have.

Sean P. Holman (52m 58s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (52m 58s):

Fact that it’s got four drains, one in each corner with these amazing rubber fittings. It could be pouring absolute pouring rain or snow and almost no water is getting inside. And the shape of the, the canister that Holman’s talking about, it’s created so that it drains to the corners. It doesn’t pull up if any leaves were getting were to get in there, it’s got access doors. You can get into everything you could think of. Like, I would fix that. I would fix that. No, they’ve already fixed it. All

Sean P. Holman (53m 25s):

Right, so head over to EGR and you’ll want to check out the roll track and it’s really awesome. This is for the short box Chevys. So five nine bed length. So go over there and check ’em out.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (53m 39s):

Can I guess the next product,

Sean P. Holman (53m 41s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (53m 42s):

Jock. Rock jock. Rock jock. Rock.

Sean P. Holman (53m 44s):

Rock Jock by John Curry. Only

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (53m 45s):

Because I saw it on your Instagram.

Sean P. Holman (53m 48s):

So basically back a long time ago when I worked for a different employer, Brandon Curry from Rock Jock gave me a call. And, he said, Hey, we’ve got this really cool new steering product for Wrangler jls and I’d love for you to, to put it on and and test it for us and give some feedback. And I was like, great. And then I got laid off and so I didn’t call him. I was like, well he’s not gonna want anything to do with me. To his credit, he called me again And. he says, Hey, when are we doing the, as the steering kit on your jail? and I was like, oh hey, I don’t work for Four Wheeler anymore and I’m doing my own thing. I said, yeah, yeah don, don’t care about that. We just trust your input and we’d like to have our product on your Jeep and get some

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (54m 25s):

Feedback. Which you should’ve said. Like, I also do the structural podcast. We do like know

Sean P. Holman (54m 28s):

And I know they’ve

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (54m 29s):

Been on the podcast and vr blah

Sean P. Holman (54m 30s):

Blah blah. Yeah. Anyway, they, my my point is that it wasn’t like, oh hey, do an article and we’ll give you these parts that wasn, Hey, we have a relationship with you and we’d like you to test this really cool new product that we have. And so for me that wasn kinda like, what does it do? Okay, I’m getting there.

Producer? (54m 46s):

Okay guys, you have room for one more product? Hurry it along.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (54m 50s):

He’s right, he’s already doing it. Keep, keep going.

Sean P. Holman (54m 52s):

So, so check this out. So they offer a high steer kit for Wrangler jls and Gladiator J jts. And what’s special about these kits is you used to, like on a jk you could get different knuckles or you could drill out your factory knuckles and then you would do a flip kit, which would move the, the drag link and the, the tie rod up higher on the axle so that it’s more in line with the tube of the axle tube and not hanging below like a regular jail or JT does, where your steering and your steering stabilizer are in harm’s way. And so Curry developed this complete system.

Sean P. Holman (55m 32s):

Everything is a hundred percent reversible. So you could return it to stock. Not sure why you’d want to, but it’s a high tier kit. They got brand new forged knuckles and they’ve got what they call a organically forged drag link. And so what

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (55m 47s):

Does that even mean organically forged.

Sean P. Holman (55m 48s):

So most companies that give you a beefier drag link and it’s shaped, it’s just a tube, right? It’s just a bet piece of whatever tubing that they put ends on and they bolted in place and it’s more rigid. What curry did is it looks like a whale bone. They have made it look like kind of a a, it’s kind of squashed. It’s squashed but like a boomerang or a whale bone. So what happens is that full compression, it nests with your tie rod. And so the drag link and tie rod nest together at full compression. So they can both take up the same space. ’cause under a JL or jt, there’s not a lot of rail

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (56m 24s):

Space is precious. It’s

Sean P. Holman (56m 25s):

Right, it’s very precious. So what they do is they take their knuckles, they raise the tie rod two and three quarters of an inch and they raise the drag link two and a half inches. Well, in the case of my Jeep, I have a two and a half inch lift. And on that lift all the geometry has been accounted for whether it’s the the control arm. But what they don’t do is adjust the steering. And so with all lift kits, a lot of times the steering stays stuck and they just have a, a longer, longer components or whatever and they make it work. Well this kit, moving it up basically returns my Jeep to having stock geometry again. Okay, so going down the road, it’s tracks way straighter. You know Jeeps are are prone to wander all those air

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (57m 3s):

Squirrelly. Yeah. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (57m 4s):

It tracks dead straight. We also put the Dana heavy duty ball joints on it. So we took out the plastic ball joints and went for the metal ball joints and the steering for a solid axle vehicle on the highway on my Jeep right now is unbelievable. Tell me

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (57m 16s):

That these are coming for Ford and Ram.

Sean P. Holman (57m 19s):

I have no idea if they’re,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (57m 20s):

Can you find out?

Sean P. Holman (57m 21s):

I i we we need to have them back on the show is what we

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (57m 23s):

Need to do. Yeah, it’s about time. What

Sean P. Holman (57m 25s):

I also did was I got their new adjustable track bar, had that installed at the same time. The track bar is also organically forged. So when you put it on, you know take out the shocks or put on the forklift and you put everything all compressed together, it all again it nests together. So there’s no interference of things hitting when you go at full compression yet you have all the strength because these are forgings and a lot of companies are like, Hey, I’m a fab shop and I just took this thicker wall metal and I put this bigger dragline.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (57m 53s):

It’s very different than a forging. The

Sean P. Holman (57m 54s):

Engineering that has gone into this kit is unbelievable. The quality, the machining, everything that you need to make this work and the price is really reasonable

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (58m 6s):

Can, I guess Sure 1200.

Sean P. Holman (58m 8s):

So all in, you’re looking at about 3 75 retail for the front track bar.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (58m 15s):


Sean P. Holman (58m 16s):

And the full steering kit. Remember with that steering kit? Yeah. Full,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (58m 18s):

Full, full system. 1200.

Sean P. Holman (58m 20s):

But remember Lightning, you get two cast iron knuckles solar machine.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (58m 23s):

So he’s setting, alright so I need to say higher 1800.

Sean P. Holman (58m 26s):

You’re getting a steering stabilizer. Relocation bracket. Okay. You’re getting a brand new heavy duty drag link that’s organically forged.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (58m 35s):

I’m sticking with 1800 and and

Sean P. Holman (58m 37s):

A heavy duty tie

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (58m 38s):


Sean P. Holman (58m 40s):

All that together. Yes. And reversible. You’re not drilling or tapering any of your things ’cause you’re using their new knuckles.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (58m 46s):

Okay. Okay. 1818 68

Sean P. Holman (58m 49s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (58m 50s):

No way.

Sean P. Holman (58m 51s):

And, and 3 74 for the track bar. And let me tell you the, the amount of difference that this kit makes in steering handling responsiveness while still being dead straight going down the road. If you have a Jeep that’s lifted two and a half inches or more and you’re suffering from wandering steering or if you’ve got an early JL or a non 3 92 non Mojave gladiator whatever with the aluminum knuckles, you want these cast iron knuckles, not only are you getting the strength, but you’re getting the steering geometry to match your lift. So in addition to raising the tire rod two and three quarters of an inch, the drag two and a half inches, they’re moving the rods outta the way of rocks. They’re restoring the factory geometry.

Sean P. Holman (59m 31s):

They’re giving you improved drivability and more road comfort and less fatigue because you’re not sawing the Wheel making constant little corrections. The two knuckles also feature the adjustable steering stops for full lock to lock adjustability. You can use the stock ball joints, the stock unit bearings, axles, brakes, dust shields, all of that is retained. Although we chose to upgrade our ball joints while we had it all apart. And then they also have the, what they call their correct link steering, which I think is hilarious ’cause it’s correct spelled like curry in link LYNC. So it’s, it’s so it’s kinda cutesy but but it works. I

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 0m 4s):

Can’t believe you just said cutesy. Yeah, well it’s, well you have a daughter, two daughters. Yeah, I do

Sean P. Holman (1h 0m 7s):

Have two daughters. Anyway, the steering that includes it’s the high articulation forged crow molly drag link and their tie rod is now a 42 millimeter. So one in five eighth inch diameter crow moley tube. All of the steering ends are forged steel and comparable in size to what’s on a modern one ton truck. And you’re putting that on your Jeep, on your gladiator on your Wrangler. And then the steering stabilizer mounts the shock up and behind the tire rod. So nothing hangs below your axle tube. I Mean, that’s a lot of engineering to fit all that in there and then put all these beefy parts as well. So if I’m gonna go do the Rubicon, I don’t have to worry about bending my right tie rod driving off road or blowing out my stock steering stabilizer.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 0m 47s):

I need you to make a call and find out if they’re coming with other straight axle vehicles.

Sean P. Holman (1h 0m 52s):

I know that they are working on JK next, but I don know if they’re doing HD trucks, but I can

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 0m 57s):

Find out. Yeah, please do.

Producer? (1h 0m 60s):

Great segment. that wasn only mostly awful. Let’s get into Florida truck meet. Mostly

Sean P. Holman (1h 1m 5s):

Awful. Come on, we No, no, no.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 1m 7s):

Sure is he,

Sean P. Holman (1h 1m 7s):

He can’t say great segment and then that wasn mostly awful. It’s wrong. Dude’s fired.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 1m 14s):

We don’t pay him anything. Alright,

Sean P. Holman (1h 1m 15s):

Well he can stay

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 1m 15s):

Then. Alright, the next segment is going to take about three hours because there is so much frigging truck news. I’m excited. Let’s do it.

12 (1h 1m 24s):

What’s new in trucks? We need to know what’s new in trucks. We need to know what’s new in trucks. We need

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To know lifted, lowered and everything in between. What’s happening in the world of trucks?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 1m 39s):

Ah, that wasn

Sean P. Holman (1h 1m 41s):

Great. That was so good. Did you?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 1m 42s):

That was so good.

Sean P. Holman (1h 1m 43s):

Did you see Toyota tried to blow up the internet this week?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 1m 45s):

Yep. They were on that wasn there. Every one of my feeds. They, they were in LA Times. Wall Street Journal, Newsweek, everything everywhere. Every Instagram feed, every Facebook feed. TikTok that wasn crazy. They were on threads.

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 0s):

Nobody’s on threads.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 2s):

I knew that would piss you off.

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 3s):

Doesn’t piss me off. It’s just, it’s I think

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 5s):

Funny. Nobody’s there. Everyone signed up for threads and then just didn’t use it. Yeah,

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 9s):

Yeah. Anyway, so the 2024 land user,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 13s):

Ah, ah, did I hear?

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 15s):

No, clearly you did. You’re just talking about it.

13 (1h 2m 19s):

Yes, yes.

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 20s):

Ah, there we go. So anyway, the 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser is back sort of, I I struggle with this one. I was Now

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 33s):

You, you flew somewhere and you drove something didn’t you? Or you just sat in it or no, no

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 36s):

Looked, no that wasn it is just the It was just the first look. Okay. So it’s, it’s that wasn kind of like, you know, fly into Salt Lake City, And, we all got to hang out at the Land Cruiser Heritage Museum. And if you have never been there and you’re in Salt Lake City, make that the one place you go. Why is based

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 2m 51s):

In Salt Lake City?

Sean P. Holman (1h 2m 52s):

Amazing. Why Salt Lake? I used to be at Miller Motorsports Park I think, and they, they just moved downtown. A phenomenal building and countless land cruisers of Japanese and American origin, every shape, modification, wear level, I, Mean, there’s a bunch of rusty, there’s one that caught on fire. It’s just sitting there, it’s like, well this one burned down and here’s the Hulk. And you’re like, that’s awesome. Like the headlight glass is all melted in it and it’s all rusty and

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 3m 19s):

Oxide. How interesting that, that would be on display.

Sean P. Holman (1h 3m 21s):

So, awesome. Okay. The whole, the whole place is amazing. And, and to have the Land Cruiser be unveiled in a setting like that was, was phenomenal. So kudos to those guys for, for hosting it for Toyota, for for making it go there. But you know what

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 3m 35s):

It’s like, it’s, it’s like, it’s like when McDonald’s drops the McRib and they’re like, the McRib is back. It’s like you can’t ignore it no matter where you are. You gotta have it. You cannot avoid a McRib advertisement Billboard Radio, tv, internet is everywhere. And,

Sean P. Holman (1h 3m 48s):

That was Land

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 3m 49s):

Cruise dude. Land Cruiser dude, they

Sean P. Holman (1h 3m 50s):

Dang, they earned media. Must have been off the chart yesterday. I think companies would pray to have one day like that. And so here’s the thing, I’m kind of torn, I thought because it is based on the TNGA dash F platform, which is the new global Body on frame platform. It’s, it underpins everything from the Land Cruiser 300 series and Lexus version. The LX 600 that’s on the, that’s a three 10 to Sequoia, Tacoma Tundra GX five 50. So I thought, okay, so you’ve got the GX five 50, which we talked about as kind of being like a Land Cruiser, like, you know, an homage to the Land Cruiser 80 series And. that was that wasn. So cool. And I’m thinking, okay, it’s it’s got all Wheel Drive and you rear locker available and

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 4m 33s):

Then what do you not like about it? ’cause I can in a V six,

Sean P. Holman (1h 4m 35s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 4m 35s):

Obvious there’s some issue.

Sean P. Holman (1h 4m 37s):

Okay, I’m getting there. Lightning, are you ready? Yeah. How about now? Go. How about now? I’m,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 4m 44s):

I’ve been ready. I all

Sean P. Holman (1h 4m 46s):

I I’m

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 4m 46s):

Trying what kind of, what kind of listen shade are you gonna throw with the new line?

Sean P. Holman (1h 4m 49s):

I’m, I’m trying to, I’m trying to get there. I’m setting the stage. So the GX five 50 I thought was really impressive for being a Lexus product. They have the new over trail and over trail plus editions that added a lot of off-road equipment. To me a Land cruiser should be the ultimate in off-roading and Toyotas lineups. So I thought for sure they’re not bringing the big Land Cruiser back as a Toyota. If you wanna buy that vehicle, it’s Lexus LX 600 that’s that’s done and whatever. So they’re bringing back the Land Cruiser Prodo, which is the smaller Land Cruiser sold overseas as the Prodo but they’re not calling it the Prodo here, they’re calling it the Land Cruiser. So if it’s taking the place of the full size big Land Cruiser and it’s going to be in Toyota’s lineup and there’s already a GX that’s luxurious, then you have to add some capability.

Sean P. Holman (1h 5m 32s):

So I’m thinking you’re gonna keep the V six, you’re gonna add a front locker and you’re going to make it a premium Toyota that leaves four Runner a place this lot in what we got was Toyota going, hey we got two grades of Land Cruiser. Well three ’cause there’s a first edition. We’ve got the 1958 edition or the Land Cruiser edition. One has Round Heritage Headlights One has a more modern like 60 series sort of nod, rectangular headlights. All of them have the 2.4 liter Turbo four hybrid, no third row, no front locker. Although they do have electronic, the disconnecting stabilizer bar. So that’s fine.

Sean P. Holman (1h 6m 12s):

And the tires are pretty small. It’s like the biggest tire I can is like a 32.6 or something like that. Okay. It’s fine. The interior’s really good. The package I really like the Wheel wheels are big, they’re gonna lend themselves. It’s looking good looking Rick, it’s cool. Yeah, but where does that leave Four Runner? Because I thought if Land Cruiser is premium then four Runner’s gonna come in. It’s gonna have the hybrid 2.4 liter right? Because it’ll be closer to the Tacoma. Yes, it’ll have maybe the two rows. And if you wanna step up to the third row, you go to Land Cruiser. So that’s not the case. And the Tier D Pro will have the rear locker. So I’m thinking about Four Runners kind of asked out because really Land Cruiser is sort of where four Runner, the high end of Four Runner sits right now. So how are you gonna differentiate four Runner and Land Cruiser?

Sean P. Holman (1h 6m 54s):

’cause clearly Toyota’s saying if you want a three row, we’re pushing you to the Sequoia. So now are you gonna have two, two row SUVs with the same engine on the same platform? Yes, with the same specs.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 7m 5s):

Yes. One will be very expensive. That’s the bottom line.

Sean P. Holman (1h 7m 8s):

That’s the problem. The Land Cruiser is the premium one. So Four Runner has to be less than Land Cruiser. Right. And Land Cruiser’s not very expensive. It starts in the mid fifties, which is right where four

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 7m 17s):

Runner sit now.

Sean P. Holman (1h 7m 18s):

Know that for sure. That’s what the press release said. So my point is it’s sitting squarely on top of Four Runner right now. So what’s the next four runner gonna be? Is it gonna be a three row, like a couple generations ago? And then you’ll be able to do that. Is it going to be a more retro, wild inspired, is it gonna be more mainstream because it is coming back. Toyota said four Runner means a lot in North America. We’re not walking away from it. So I’m just really confused because I wanna love the Land Cruiser and I just like the

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 7m 44s):

Land cruise. So here’s the thing, Toyota, they’re smarter than we are.

Sean P. Holman (1h 7m 47s):

I’m sure they’re,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 7m 48s):

And I can guarantee you that there’s some kind of a Venn diagram that shows where all of the Toyota product fits together.

Sean P. Holman (1h 7m 56s):

I I I get it. And that has not been shared with the media. So everybody’s asking and the lectures only has running ground clearance of 8.3 inches. Is it why And That’s really low. Yeah, because it doesn’t have big tires. Oh, the departure Breakover approach angles. They’re okay, but they’re not great. It doesn’t, it feels like a Land cruiser and looks And. we all know at least the peers

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 8m 17s):

Know they’re not

Sean P. Holman (1h 8m 18s):

Capability. But don don’t, I’m not saying it’s not capable, don don’t want to go there, but there’s a lot of vehicles in the same size class that you can now get with a lot bigger tire and a front locker. And if you’re competing against Bronco and you’re competing against Wrangler and you’re kind of playing in that field, there’s other choices. Especially if Land Cruiser could have been the three row to separate itself away from Bronco and Wrangler. But it’s still only a two row.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 8m 44s):

Is the three row thing really that important

Sean P. Holman (1h 8m 47s):

To a family? It is.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 8m 48s):

Okay. Fair enough

Sean P. Holman (1h 8m 49s):

To a family. It is. So anyway, it’ll tow 6,000 pounds. It has 326 horsepower, 465 pound feet of torque combined. It’s got the 112.2 classic Land Rover Wheel base. So yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 9m 1s):

They’re they’re really banking on the hybrid thing, aren’t they?

Sean P. Holman (1h 9m 3s):

Well everybody has to. That’s that’s not, you’re either going all electric, going hybrid. Although we’ve started to see a lot Is that because

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 9m 8s):

Of cafe or is it Yeah. Okay.

Sean P. Holman (1h 9m 9s):

Yeah. In government regulations. We’re starting to see now though, a lot of manufacturers are backing off the EV and going, Hey hybrids are, we’re we’re getting into hybrid. And if you think about it, we’ve talked about it before, hybrid makes a lot of sense because those minerals, if you look at like the reports coming up for the supply chain to make battery packs, those rare earth minerals and a lot of the stuff made are gonna be constrained. So would you rather have smaller amount of EVs that have full battery only or would you like to spread all those minerals around on a smaller battery pack with multiple hybrids? That’s the move and hybrid. Again, you can charge up if you want to. You can go on gas if you want to. You’re not constrained by the infrastructure. ’cause you can go either way. And to me it’s the, the more natural progression of where we should be going.

Sean P. Holman (1h 9m 52s):

Not, we’re not ready to jump all the way into

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 9m 55s):

Yeah. Finally, it, it took the last couple years people to really, really scream about the mineral resources and it’s finally getting through to the people who just wanna pretend like it’s not a thing. don don’t know if it is.

Sean P. Holman (1h 10m 6s):

I don’t think that’s true. I think it’s getting through to the consumer, but I don’t think the regulators care. Hmm. I think that they’re going full speed towards something that they think is the right answer and

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 10m 18s):

The consumers are smarter than those, than regulators ’cause consumer. Well, well have you, have you been,

Sean P. Holman (1h 10m 22s):

Have you been reading the automotive news and the reports coming out? Yes. That there’s more supply of EV than there are buyers now. And, we haven’t even gotten to Ford’s talking about making what, 300,000 EVs in the next couple years or something. They’re starting to stack up with those with Mach e’s and they’re having a hard time selling those and they want to make a, you know, a a a ton of F-150 lightnings. And the buyers who bought those vehicles are there. They bought ’em. They’re like, oh, early adopter. I want in great truck for how I use it. That’s fine. There’s nothing wrong with it. The mainstream buyer’s kind of standing back going

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 10m 54s):

Not ready yet.

Sean P. Holman (1h 10m 55s):

I’m not ready. Yeah, I’m not ready. Especially when I was having a conversation with somebody. When you look at EV range and, and the manufacturer says, well we have 300 mile range. Well the reality is, is in a gas fuel tank, and I’ve said this before, you live between 0% and a hundred percent. You can get 0% fuel and then you can fill it up up to a hundred percent and you work down to zero and you fill it out in a battery in an electric vehicle, you really live between 20% and 80%. That means 40% of your range can’t

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 11m 23s):

Use you. Can’t

Sean P. Holman (1h 11m 24s):

You, you, well I won’t say can’t use you won’t, but you won’t use on a regular basis. Right. And may, maybe I’ll even dial that back because let’s say you, you never go below 20 and then you fast charge with 80 and you plug it in overnight. So you start at a hundred. So let’s say there’s 20% of your range immediately that you’re not gonna use now add climate control now add, you know, you know, air conditioning heating now add external temperature. You

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 11m 45s):

Forgot about my airbag system so I can lower it.

Sean P. Holman (1h 11m 46s):

Well and now you’re, now you’re talking about, you know, weather, wind. If you plan on towing, you forgot about haul

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 11m 53s):

Jl, sub box,

Sean P. Holman (1h 11m 54s):

All that stuff. So anyway, there’s a lot of people need to learn about what is right for them. and I like EVs I think EVs are great for the right purpose. And so anyway, don don’t know I think land cruises are being hybrid is cool. I just thought that wasn gonna be the V six and not the four cylinder. ’cause I thought four cylinder would go to four runner to put more differentiation in there. I was obviously wrong on that and I don’t know what Toyota’s gonna do and I’m really curious to see where they go the four runner. ’cause it’s supposed to be out next year. So we’ll see. Hmm. Anyway, love the interior on the Land Cruiser. One of the things I’ll say, the base model of the 1958 trim has the most wonderfully done take on the old Land Cruiser twill seats.

Sean P. Holman (1h 12m 35s):

Really? Their cloth seats are a modern version of that twill. It’s is it

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 12m 38s):

Real twill?

Sean P. Holman (1h 12m 39s):

It’s like twill. Okay. It’s just right. It’s just proper. If you’ve been in an old Toyota Land Cruiser and you’re like, oh, those twill seats, I remember that the new ones claw seats are like, and it’s not just like a seat cover that is just like mouse fur. It’s like a twill seat and it’s like, that’s cool.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 12m 53s):

So like you can feel it. It has the, the proper texture.

Sean P. Holman (1h 12m 55s):

Yeah. You can see the, we the, you can see the weaves, the weaves and everything. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It’s super cool. Okay. A huge cargo area. Dash is great. It’s a mix of, I’d say Wrangler and you can see a little bit of GWA in there. Obviously

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 13m 8s):

Toyota, how much emblem is happening on the dashboard?

Sean P. Holman (1h 13m 11s):

Not as obnoxious as like a tundra. Okay. You know where it’s like Toyota bro, you know, it’s not, it’s not like that at all. Which is, which is a good thing. And then you can also get a big old 12.3 inch screen on there and there’s a bunch of different, you know, front stabilizer bar disconnect now rigid LLED fog lights come on the, the Land cruiser upmarket version. They now add multi terrain select and crawl control. And then you also have multi terrain monitor, which is your cameras on that big high resolution screen. So there’s a lot of cool things going for it. I just thought it would be a little bit, I’m not gonna say better ’cause I haven’t driven it a little bit more.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 13m 49s):

Fair enough.

Sean P. Holman (1h 13m 51s):

Lighting. Have you heard?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 13m 52s):

No, but nope.

Sean P. Holman (1h 13m 54s):

What do you know about sinister Diesel?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 13m 59s):

Those are the guys that tried to trademark blue. The color blue. Remember everyone laughed at ’em and they’re like, bro, you can’t have blue. You can’t trademark a color.

Sean P. Holman (1h 14m 9s):

No, they’re trademarking the color red

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 14m 11s):

Because they’re bleeding.

Sean P. Holman (1h 14m 12s):

Oh, I I Mean. don don’t know if they’re bleeding. I’m not gonna say that. I don’t, but they have a big old fine to pay.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 14m 20s):

Really? Were they accused of

Sean P. Holman (1h 14m 22s):

Polluting? No. Nope. They were not accused of it. They settled. Oh.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 14m 27s):

For the tune of

Sean P. Holman (1h 14m 30s):

$1 million.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 14m 36s):

So they’re paying Uncle Sam a million dollars. For what? For selling delete devices.

Sean P. Holman (1h 14m 42s):

Well, so there was a press release on, which is the Office of Public Affairs for the US Department of Justice. And there was some pretty interesting tidbits I pulled outta here. So the press release is California truck parts manufacturer sinister Diesel agrees to pay $1 million after pleading guilty to conspiracy and for manufacturing and selling illegal defeat devices. It goes on to say that the parts manufacturer, Siner manufacturing company DBA sinister Diesel pled guilty. The company agreed to implement a compliance program and not manufacture cell or install any device that defeats a vehicle’s emission controls. This is where it gets interesting. Sinister Diesel pleaded guilty to a two count information, charging it with conspiracy to violate the Clean Air Act and defraud the United States and with violating the CAA by tampering with the monitoring device of an emissions control system of a Diesel truck.

Sean P. Holman (1h 15m 33s):

Under the plea agreement, the defendant agrees to pay a 500,000 criminal fine sinister must also pay an additional 500,000 under the civil consent decree, which United States filed simultaneously with a civil complaint against sin alleging violations of the CA’s Pro prohibition against the sale or manufacture devices that bypass defeat or render inoperative emission controls. The civil consent decree prohibits the company from making, selling or offering to sell defeat products. Including delete tunes and prevent sin Diesel from transferring intellectual property that would allow others to make such products to ensure compliance. They have to, IM implement a robust internal training program, notify distributors and former customers about the settlement.

Sean P. Holman (1h 16m 15s):

Here’s where it gets really interesting. They go on to say for close to 10 years, sensor Diesel sold parts designed to override or disabled admissions control systems on a truck. And this was from the principal deputy assistant administrator Larry Starfield from the Environmental Protection Agency office of the Starfield of the enforcement compliance insurance. Anyway, so he goes on to say, you know, miss a hundred times more, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They’re gonna aggressively, you know, prosecute. But this is the thing that, that I was a a little bit blown away. So they say from 2010 to 2020 they sold parts in 10 to be installed motor vehicles. Right. Diesel trucks enabling the defeat and all that emissions control, blah blah blah. We know what those are, but they also said the deleted tunes were software produced by another company which could alter a Diesel truck’s onboard computer to allow a truck with its emission controls deleted to appear run normally.

Sean P. Holman (1h 17m 4s):

So I don’t know if that’s where the conspiracy comes in as they were working with others or I’m not, I’m not sure how that works. But basically there’s, they don’t name the other company ’cause I think it’s anybody out there, but they allowed a gateway for people to do that, which we talked to Corey about, you know, the industry and Right. All that. But this is, this is the place where I was like, whoa. So in there they, they even note in the press release sinister, sometimes labels delete product for quote unquote racing and included disclaimer off-road marketing materials indicating that its product should be used only in off-road settings. The company knew most of its delete products were being purchased by Diesel truck drivers who used those products on public roads, not race tracks.

Sean P. Holman (1h 17m 45s):

So just because you say off-road use only does not matter, does not absolve you

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 17m 49s):

Of liability. No. Here’s the thing though. There is no such thing as off-road use. No, literally there’s not, there’s no such thing. You can say those words doesn’t mean anything. But you can’t,

Sean P. Holman (1h 17m 57s):

Regardless of the vehicle, you can’t touch the emission system. Correct. And, we keep telling you guys that you’re like, ah, no, it’s no big deal road

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 18m 3s):

Use. I drive it in Mexico. So No, you don’t. They know it.

Sean P. Holman (1h 18m 5s):

Yeah. And they know it. So at times, approximately 25% of sinisters gross revenue stem from as delete products. Ooh. This is the thing that blew my mind. According to sinister own statistics, between October 3rd, 2015 and July 17th, 2017, 2015 to 2017, not two full years, it sold 39,792 defeat devices, including at least 35,960 kits. Wow. This is in the press release from the government. Wow. So you think they don’t know. They know. They know exactly.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 18m 37s):

They know. So, dude, there’s another juicy, so I know about this story. Yeah. There’s another juicy tidbit in there. Yep.

Sean P. Holman (1h 18m 43s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 18m 43s):

The part about the phone calls

Sean P. Holman (1h 18m 45s):

Through its employees sinister Diesel reached, and this is all in quotes, reached agreements with other companies that manufacture tuners or tuning platforms to sell their product bundled together. Sinister would then often advise customers on the other needed parts for their deleted vehicles to run properly with sensors, delete kits such as a tuner or tuning platform and delete tunes and sell them those products to, they counseled customers on how to evade state emission tests.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 19m 8s):

So they didn’t do it online, they did it over the phone thinking nobody would ever hear them. Yeah, yeah. So

Sean P. Holman (1h 19m 14s):

Dude, I’m telling you, they they, it’s crazy know it’s, it’s only gonna get worse. And part of this is why we don’t have light duty diesels anymore. You know, the, the three liter GM straight six is the last one

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 19m 25s):

That wasn nuts. Remember when I went to the Diesel world, your former competitor, Diesel World Magazine, had an event at the Sacramento Raceway. So in our states capital And I would say that 90% of those trucks were deleted an all rolling coal on this quarter mile drag strip that wasn mental, I was like, how, how is there no one from Carb here? Just, oh,

Sean P. Holman (1h 19m 50s):

They were there

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 19m 50s):

Just writing down license plates. It’s crazy. And listen, I know it to you guys that listeners, it sounds like I wanna bust people. Dude, I don’t, Holman doesn’t, I just, it’s don’t,

Sean P. Holman (1h 20m 1s):

Don’t play the messenger,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 20m 1s):

Dude. They’re playing dirty. Our job is they’re, they’re gonna bust your ass and it’s gonna suck. Now did you see that sinister got popped in 2015 by Carb?

Sean P. Holman (1h 20m 10s):

Yeah. So this, yeah,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 20m 11s):

So this I think is why, it’s why it’s civil. They’re like, dude, you already, like we, we got you in 2015 and here you’ve been doing it this whole time.

Sean P. Holman (1h 20m 19s):

Dude, it’s, it’s, it’s nuts out there. Like, like they know, they know

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 20m 24s):

I think this is all payback for trying to trademark the color blue.

Sean P. Holman (1h 20m 28s):

I don’t think that’s the case. Hey Lightning, did you hear? No.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 20m 33s):


Sean P. Holman (1h 20m 34s):

Fans of the Jurassic Park film franchise are excited ’cause it’s celebrating its 30th anniversary in 2023. So Jeep is getting on board by working with our friend Matt over at Jeep Graphic Studio. And they have new graphic kits. Basically two versions of this package available. But production’s limited to a hundred units number zero to 99. It’s basically the Jurassic Park package for a Jeep Wrangler. The first package costs 550 bucks, includes two logo door graphics, a numbered center hood graphics side hood graphics, a numbered swing gate handle graphic, two numbered fender vent graph graphics, and a numbered shifter insert with a Tyrannis source Rex on it. The second one is six 50 and offers everything in the first, but you also get a Grassy Island transfer case shift insert.

Sean P. Holman (1h 21m 21s):

The two packs are available for Wrangler Wrangler four, XE and Gladiator and Of course. The Swing Gate graphics aren’t available for the pickup, but you can head over to Jeep Graphic Studio and gift yourself a a 30th anniversary graphic kit for your Wrangler JL to match the, the vehicles seen in Jurassic Park.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 21m 39s):

I wouldn’t do it, but it’s kind of cool. I can imagine

Sean P. Holman (1h 21m 41s):

There’s a hundred people out there who would

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 21m 42s):

Yeah, absolutely. Hey, speaking of graphics. Yep. What’s your opinion on owning a RAM 1500 Rebel and then putting stickers on the bedsides that say Rebel TRX?

Sean P. Holman (1h 21m 54s):

No, rebel. TRX was a concept that was post rebel and pre TRX and they changed it to T Rx with no rebel on it.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 22m 2s):

There’s a guy out, a couple of them Yep. On the, on the, on the old Facebook. Yep. On the groups. Yep. Spotted it gas stations with the rebel TRX and guys are like, that’s, that’s not cool. And there are others like, just let him be him. He’s fine. Why do you care what he puts on his, you know why? Because I don’t like the guys that buy an A MG badge on eBay and think that they can slap it on their car. You can’t. And be an A MG jerk or an M series on their BMW

Sean P. Holman (1h 22m 31s):

Or whatever. That’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 22m 32s):

Just don’t be a turd dude.

Sean P. Holman (1h 22m 33s):

Don’t stop it. Don’t be a turd, dude. Is that, that’s a, hold on, I’m writing that down. This T-shirt don’t be a turd. All right, got it. Hey lighting, did you hear?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 22m 42s):

No. Nope.

Sean P. Holman (1h 22m 43s):

Ford’s recalling 870,000 F-150 trucks. Oh, that could have an electric parking brake issue. It’s 21 to 23 models. Ouch. So it’s basically all of the F-150 trucks with a single outlet exhaust system. So if you’re one of the owners of a 14th generation F-150, there’s a potential wiring issue. And according to the automaker and the National Highway and Traffic and Safety Administration, the effective vehicles, the rear axle wiring harness bundle may contact the housing. So, no, I don’t think it’s that bad. But if the harness wiring rubs through, it could apply the parking brake while driving. If there’s a short circuit, I, I still just like regular old parking brakes that you push with your foot or pull up with your hand.

Sean P. Holman (1h 23m 32s):

Apparently there were something like 918 warranty claims. Three field reports for the wire chafing of those 299 indicated that the parking brake had inver inadvertently activated 19 alleges the parking brake activated while driving. Yeah. So Ford says it’s not aware of any, but they’re gonna go ahead and fix that for you.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 23m 49s):

So that’s not good.

Sean P. Holman (1h 23m 50s):

FYI Hey lighting, did you hear?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 23m 53s):

No, no, I didn’t hear.

Sean P. Holman (1h 23m 55s):

Nissan has announced that the 2024 Nissan Titan gets a new package in a few changes. The most notable is that Nissan’s dropping the base s trim, which means that the entry level Titan is now the ssv, which means more value, more, more features. However, it starts at 47, 6 65. So it won’t be the value that that wasn before if you’re looking at a base model truck. but yeah, but

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 24m 17s):

It’s still a value.

Sean P. Holman (1h 24m 18s):

But if you’re looking at a mid grade, it’s, it’s still good. But so the Titan from ssv on up through Pro four X Platinum Reserve, all that good stuff continues on. Rear Wheel Drive is only available on the Ssv or Platinum Reserve. The King Cab option is only available with the Titan SV four by four, which is starts at 51 0 3 5. But we’re, there’s one notable option for this year. It’s the SV Bronze Edition package. So it’s a $2,980 option. Bronze brings 20 inch bronze wheels, a glass black drill surround and bumper trim Titan branded sport bar and Bronze edition floor mats. Otherwise all the trims, including the Pro four X and Platinum Reserve, are the same equipment that they had in 2023. So have

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 24m 56s):

You seen the bronze ’cause that could be cool.

Sean P. Holman (1h 24m 57s):

Yeah, it looks awesome. Here’s a picture of it right here.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 24m 59s):

Lemme see. Hold it. Oh, that’s good. Look. Yeah,

Sean P. Holman (1h 25m 3s):

I like those wheels. Bronze, that’s a good look.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 25m 4s):

Really good. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (1h 25m 4s):

Nice, nice looking truck and Of course. As you guys know, Nissan has the most standard power of any half ton. The sole 5.6 liter gas V eight puts out 400 horsepower and 413 pound feet of tour Hey lighting. Did you hear what?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 25m 18s):

No, no, I don’t think so. Let’s,

Sean P. Holman (1h 25m 20s):

Did I, you might wanna run over to my old friends at MotorTrend who had this,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 25m 26s):

Tell them how to run a website because, man, do they have a lot of ads? God no kidding. Dang. I was looking at old bank story today. Yeah. and I just couldn’t get through the myriad of ads.

Sean P. Holman (1h 25m 36s):

Okay. That’s not what I was gonna talk about. Oh, okay. But they decided to purposefully run a rivian R one T completely empty just to see what would happen. And it had a,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 25m 45s):

It would run completely empty

Sean P. Holman (1h 25m 48s):

And had a cascading problem. So first of all, they tried to run it until that wasn completely dead. And basically there’s so much like reserve, it just keeps flashing warnings going. Oh, it’s, the end is near, the end is near. No, it’s really good. It’s getting closer now. You can only go to the speed now.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 26m 4s):

Armageddon is just a day away.

Sean P. Holman (1h 26m 6s):

Yeah, right. So they say that the 135 kilowatt battery pack that they had was officially good for three 14 miles of range. What’d they get out of it? But unofficially creeps up to 3 28 with, with a recent over the air update. So this was on their Guinea pig, 22 Rivian, R one T. The story was written by my friend Scott Evans And. he says it’s just, it’s kind of comedy when you’re reading it. ’cause you’re like, man, that’s a bad day. Like he knew that wasn gonna be a bad day. ’cause he woke up in the morning And. he goes, I’m gonna do a story about running a pick a truck. You know, Rivian, Evie pick a truck to empty And. he got way more than he bargained for And. he says, for the purpose of this test, a more recent overthe update gave us the ability to set the charging limit as low as 50% to keep the keeping the battery drained before the big day.

Sean P. Holman (1h 26m 49s):

So he didn’t wanna have it charged at a hundred, right? He, he started with it at at 50. So the idea was they’re gonna, they’re gonna run it outta charge. Right? So he was in the Santa Cita River Valley north of LA and there’s only a pair of slow level two wall chargers available for EV drivers and no level three DC fast chargers for 25 miles in any direction. So they wore out the battery, they called rivian roadside assistance to see what would happen. They wanted to know where they would tow us, how much would it cost, all that kind of stuff. So he puts in the story, it sounds easy, but it’s harder than you think. ’cause it doesn’t want you to run outta battery. And when we did the Transamerica Trail with them and drove the Rivian cross country, I

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 27m 24s):

Does it actually steer you toward a no. To what? A Phillips station.

Sean P. Holman (1h 27m 28s):

I was in a negative charging station. I was in a negative mileage state as all the lights from stuff were going on we’re like seven miles away from camp. We’re like everything. You know, it’s like conserving power and the AC shuts off. It’s 95 outside. And so I, I totally get all that. But he talks about warnings on the screen. Audio warning, suggested navigation routes to the nearest charger. Reroutes, it wants you to make it to the power knock strand. So that’s good. It has all these built-in things that go idiot this way. Right. So he said the first warnings popped up. Anyway, long story short, they got down to zero in a neighborhood in Fillmore. They could accelerate slowly, but the truck would top out at 26 miles per hour. So they kept driving like that. And so on a slight rise, they ran out of so speed.

Sean P. Holman (1h 28m 11s):

And they were becoming a hazard and a bright red warning pops up. It’s, anyway, all that stuff still didn’t quit. Traveled more. Wow. Just on

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 28m 19s):

And over. The rivian then won’t die. Right.

Sean P. Holman (1h 28m 21s):

So finally he said they would’ve, you know, the average person would’ve found a safe spot to pull over before they did. But did they have a chase car? It didn’t just quit. Suddenly. don don’t know. So finally the truck stops. They push the SOS button, they summon help and

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 28m 34s):

Wait, so it’s still got enough juice to fire the SOS

Sean P. Holman (1h 28m 37s):

Well, but here’s what’s funny. So they contacted Rivian roadside assistance, and they dispatched a tow truck. So what they, what they found out was once it’s completely dead and out of power, you can’t release the electronic parking brake. Wait, why? So the tow truck had to jack up the rivian to get it on the tow truck because there’s no power. There’s the button doesn’t work anymore. You’re outta power. And you have just, they

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 28m 58s):

Just, yeah. Wow.

Sean P. Holman (1h 28m 59s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 28m 59s):

It. All these all sorts of things. Do the doors work? Can you open the doors?

Sean P. Holman (1h 29m 3s):

So he said that the truck, truck,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 29m 4s):

How do you roll the windows down or open? So

Sean P. Holman (1h 29m 6s):

He said the truck’s completely dead. Right. And so he decided that the jumper cables were missing from the recovery kit. So there’s no way to jump the 12 volt batteries. So then they had their support vehicle. They did have one, had a one 10 volt outlet in the back. So they’re like, well, maybe we will, you know, try and plug it into that to release the parking brake. That didn’t happen. They also couldn’t open the charge port door. So unable to access the motor’s, man, the owner’s manual on the infotainment screen. They had to go to the internet to figure out where the manual release was. They found out that the manual release cables from when the truck won’t release a charging cable, not the charging port

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 29m 37s):

Door. Oh my God.

Sean P. Holman (1h 29m 39s):

So it’s just this comedy of errors. It goes on and on. It goes down through help arrives. They had trouble charging. They got it to the rivian. The the whole thing is, is a really interesting read. So anyway, go, go to MotorTrend and the, the story. So

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 29m 53s):

Grin and bear the ads Yeah. And read through the story.

Sean P. Holman (1h 29m 56s):

Yeah. And is entitled What Happens when a Rivian ev runs out a battery charge? And it’s, it’s not what you think. It’s because you think, oh, okay. They, it ran out and they drove it somewhere. They charged it and then went on their way.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 30m 7s):

It becomes just a rock. Right? Just a big door. Big Paperweight just becomes a giant immovable object. I

Sean P. Holman (1h 30m 12s):

Think at the end they basically said, listen, it’s avoidable. The truck did everything he could to warn us, don’t do this if you’re even for fun. It’s not fun. Even if you’re a Magazine guy writing a story. So anyway, all right. In our last story, lighting, did you hear?

14 (1h 30m 27s):

No, no.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 30m 29s):

Yeah. No, I don’t think so. Toyota’s

Sean P. Holman (1h 30m 31s):

Considering a Corolla based small pickup to rival the Maverick according to internet reports, which some of the renderings were God awful. And I’m like, I don. It looked like a, there’s a coa, a RAV4 with a bed or a co

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 30m 44s):

A Corolla truck is what you’re saying? A

Sean P. Holman (1h 30m 45s):

Corolla cross border or whatever That one is The adventure one with a bed on the

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 30m 48s):

Corolla truck. Yeah. Is what you’re saying? Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. I’m not,

Sean P. Holman (1h 30m 52s):

I’m not on board.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 30m 53s):

No. Does Toyota need that

Sean P. Holman (1h 30m 54s):

I? think I. think maverick. Just it that wasn the right truck at the right time for what that wasn trying to be. And you just have to be okay with that. you, you don’t need more.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 31m 2s):

No, I don’t think,

Sean P. Holman (1h 31m 3s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 31m 4s):

You got the Kia, whatever it is.

Sean P. Holman (1h 31m 6s):

No, the Hyundai Santa Cruz. The

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 31m 7s):

Hyundai. Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz. Yeah. Yeah.

Sean P. Holman (1h 31m 9s):

So there’s,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 31m 10s):

There’s two. That’s all you need guys. Yeah. Stop it. Seriously.

Sean P. Holman (1h 31m 14s):

Do you even need those two

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 31m 16s):

I Mean? Just barely. Well your kids do. Maybe

Producer? (1h 31m 19s):

Let’s move it along guys. You’re going on and on about nothing. Let’s try reading some email.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 31m 25s):

Okay. Geez, God, that is needy. Yeah,

Sean P. Holman (1h 31m 27s):

Pushy too.

3 (1h 31m 29s):

You email? Yeah, I email. Do it. We email. That’s right. Everybody email. Type it up. You email proofread. I email Send it. We email. Click it. Everybody email. Alright.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 31m 44s):

Before we even launch into this, I gotta, I gotta be honest with you guys, I’ve, I’ve fallen behind on the Nissan, the frontier spotting. Oh, it’s, it’s

Sean P. Holman (1h 31m 53s):

Worse than you think.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 31m 54s):

Is it really? I have

Sean P. Holman (1h 31m 55s):

20 that have been printed out that we

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 31m 56s):

Haven’t even done. Ah, nah. I have Shale in my backpack.

Sean P. Holman (1h 32m 2s):

Do you have shale?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 32m 3s):

I have 11 in my backpack right now. You said shale. Yeah, I know, I know. All right. Let,

Sean P. Holman (1h 32m 6s):

I know, I’m just, it’s painful. People are tired of the show. Let’s, let’s move it along, Michael. Yeah.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 32m 9s):

Okay. Okay. It’s

Sean P. Holman (1h 32m 9s):

Like a producer. What was his name? Marvin.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 32m 11s):

His Elliot? No, no, it’s Ethan. Miles. Miles, miles. Miles. Yes. Miles. The Shaft show. The Shaft show. So Trevor writes, can’t wait to hear the next episode of the Drive Shaft talk. Riveting talk guys. Riveting.

Sean P. Holman (1h 32m 25s):

That must be about your warranty on your T Rx. Did you get it fixed?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 32m 29s):

No clunk right now.

Sean P. Holman (1h 32m 31s):

Okay. What they do?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 32m 31s):

No clunk. They

Sean P. Holman (1h 32m 32s):

Tied the lube to the sp blinds. That’s

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 32m 34s):

What she said. That’s they exactly what they did. They packed it full of grease.

Sean P. Holman (1h 32m 39s):

So you’re going to say that the problem was the stick in the drive shaft and not something else that you were trying to explain to me on the air?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 32m 49s):

Yeah. Well it’s gone. It’s gone. And whatever that wasn, it’s gone, but it’s gonna come back. It’s gonna come back in a few thousand miles because everyone says it comes back.

Sean P. Holman (1h 32m 56s):

Alright, well enjoy it while it lasts. Jake Prius says, Hey fellas, got your letter in the mail with a couple of stickers and just wanted to thank you and share with you that one will be slapped on my truck soon. I plan to give the extra one to my friend who’s also a listener of the show. Got a kick out of the name on the letter LOL Jake Prius. I better share my last name now and try to clear my last name. Haha. Thanks Palmgren. So

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 33m 20s):

There you go. Palmgren.

Sean P. Holman (1h 33m 21s):

I like Jake Prius better. Are you just naming listeners who don’t give you last name now? Yep.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 33m 27s):

All right. And this is actually Trevor, but a different Trevor. What’s up Trevor? So he’s asking about catch cans it looks like. So Mr. Catch can Lightning, what do you think of this Mishimoto design? I Mean, California. So it seems like the best for functionality in retaining the factory pieces as kind of a secondary design. So to my knowledge and I haven’t looked into this Mishimoto catch can, but to my knowledge there are no 50 state compliant catch cans.

Sean P. Holman (1h 33m 54s):

I would not touch that with.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 33m 56s):

So first off, I’m not a Mishimoto fan because I am a competitor to them. I work for a competitor. If you want a catch, can I advise you to look at billet technology? That’s what I’m running illegally. Whoa, whoa, whoa,

Sean P. Holman (1h 34m 13s):

Whoa, whoa. I said that out loud. Why would you say that out loud? don don’t

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 34m 17s):


Sean P. Holman (1h 34m 18s):

I. think I know. Would you just say that’s what you have run in the past?

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 34m 21s):

In the past I’ve run at Catch can on vehicles I don’t own anymore.

Sean P. Holman (1h 34m 30s):

I. Mean.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 34m 31s):

It’s funny. Okay. Billet technology. Alright,

Sean P. Holman (1h 34m 34s):

I got one from Buddy. Lars says, Hey fellas, I’m wondering if Bill Stein has shocks for big rigs. Their website’s difficult to navigate. They can’t find anything about that. Lars Deic. Lars No. Bill Stein makes a lot of shocks. They do not have one for, or applications for semi-truck. I’m sorry to break the news on that.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 34m 51s):

This that wasn from Justin. Hey gents. I don’t think bro par is all that bad. Well, it’s too late. I’m not running those plates. Pretty funny actually. Too bad. Others seem to think it’s just a California pompous thing. However, maybe have both ideas in a way. Window decal bro par or no car could be a fun spin on it. My 2 cents, no Justin bro. Par is dead. The license plate is gonna be hung above the steer horns in the pod shed. So, but thanks for the support. A little delayed.

Sean P. Holman (1h 35m 21s):

So 19 to three.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 35m 23s):

Yep, I lost. Alright,

Sean P. Holman (1h 35m 24s):

I got one from Ronnie Kuntz says, Hey guys, I’ve been listening since the beginning. I always try to patronize your sponsors. I’ve switched to Bill Stein shocks on my personal vehicles and the ones I replace at work because of the episodes with their representatives. Thank you very much. Just order $60 worth of hotshot secret fuel additives. Thank you very much. It have been subscribed to the print version of OVR since Magazine number two. Thanks. Thank you very much. Wow. I love the excellent how to articles about Sean P Holman Best I’ve seen I was a print Four Wheeler subscriber for decades. Well Ronnie, thank you very much for following me over to OVR from Four. Wheeler. I hope we’re living up to your, to your expectations. Issue four should be in your OVR Not Not podcast. Not podcast.

Sean P. Holman (1h 36m 5s):

Issue four went out last week so you guys should be getting it now. If you haven’t gotten it already, we’re really proud of that. And if you wanna subscribe, OVR you can get print or digital Of course. My recommendation is print comes every two months, so six times a year. It’s a really beautiful Magazine working on issue number five right now. So if you have any questions, you can always hit me up at Holman at truck Show Podcast dot com. And yeah, thanks for all the support through our sponsors and our side project

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 36m 34s):

Truck. Show Podcast at or Lightning at truck Show Podcast dot com. Send us

Sean P. Holman (1h 36m 39s):

A letter and we’ll

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 36m 40s):

Read it.

3 (1h 36m 41s):

The truck show. The truck show. The truck show.

Sean P. Holman (1h 36m 48s):

And you can find that guy across the table from me at LBC Lightning on the gram. I’m at Sean P Holman or at truck Show Podcast. You can email us truck Show Podcast at and please leave us a message on the five star hotline. You’ve been slacking lately. Even if you’re bored driving cross country, towing a boat, I don’t care. You’re delivering

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 37m 8s):


Sean P. Holman (1h 37m 9s):

Delivering flour or you’re just, wait, don’t

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 37m 12s):

We have a guy that delivers flour?

Sean P. Holman (1h 37m 14s):

Probably. Oh, sugar. What is it? Deliver. Deliver flour I. think. Yeah. Yeah. Or if you’re just out for a cruise or taking your kids to school, whatever. Five.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 37m 21s):

What if we found out that he was actually like a

Sean P. Holman (1h 37m 24s):

Drug smuggler? It wasn’t flour at all.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 37m 27s):

It’s like, you know what I’m saying? It’s like nose candy

Sean P. Holman (1h 37m 30s):

6 5 7 2 0 5 61 0 5. I don’t know what you’re saying. Right. Okay. At all. Gotcha. Alright. And keep those know your notes coming. We’re starting to compile a nice little pile of Know your nose. Oh, I got a couple for you dude. All

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 37m 44s):

Right, ready? I collected a few at the The Banks event.

Sean P. Holman (1h 37m 47s):

Yeah. Yeah. That’s awesome. So

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 37m 48s):

You’re never gonna guess them.

Sean P. Holman (1h 37m 49s):

I probably won’t And that. Love And. That’s part of the fun. So what the, the deal if you, you just like when I don’t know

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 37m 54s):

Anything. Sometimes it’s rare. Yeah. Of course. Usually you know a lot. So if you haven’t heard know

Sean P. Holman (1h 37m 58s):

Your note. I know a little bit about

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 37m 59s):

A lot. It’s been don don’t know 20, 30 episodes since we’ve done a Know Your Note. But what it is is you guys go out to your truck or your buddy’s truck or any truck and you record the exhaust notes.

Sean P. Holman (1h 38m 8s):

Have started it up, let it rumble, maybe juice it a couple times and then Yep. Tell us that we have to figure out what that, well what’s producing that sound.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 38m 17s):

Yeah. So we are gonna try to guess the engine and what it’s in and sometimes we can guess one of the two. We have been lucky and guessed both that wasn some. There was like an old Toyota pickup truck that we got that

Sean P. Holman (1h 38m 27s):

Was, we have super lucky.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 38m 28s):

Yeah. So anyway, we recorded to the 6 5 7 2 0 5 61 0 5 number. Or just send it to us as an attachment in an email. Yep.

Sean P. Holman (1h 38m 36s):

Alright. We have to thank Nissan and the Nissan. Titan and Nissan Frontier are awesome trucks. If you are in the market for a new pickup truck, put that on your list to go test drive I. think you’ll be impressed with how quiet they are, the capability, how they ride. Just a great, dependable, durable, competent truck. I have been spending a lot of time in a regular old Titan. In fact, I’ve been borrowing a 2020 that has about 35,000 miles on it and it drives like day one. It’s super nice. So if you’re looking for a truck that you can count on, head on over to Nissan U s a where you build in price or down to your local Nissan dealer where they will have no idea who The Truck Show Podcast is. But you should test drive everyone on the lot and make sure that you put Truck Show Podcast on every stereo.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 39m 19s):

No, no, no. What they do is they, they do selfies. Yeah. In the truck

Sean P. Holman (1h 39m 22s):

And, we send ’em stickers. Nope. They,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 39m 23s):

They tag at Nissan s a and they tag at Truck Show Podcast. So the people at Nissan Corporate go, who are these truck Show Podcast people? Interesting.

Sean P. Holman (1h 39m 32s):

All right. New. Oh And that. You’re just trying to get people off the stickers.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 39m 35s):

No, you Yeah dude. Keep doing the sticker. I’m gonna, yeah. Go

Sean P. Holman (1h 39m 39s):

Into Nissan dealership, put the podcast on CarPlay or Android Auto, whichever one, and have it on the screen and take a selfie of you in front of it. Tag us and tag Nissan U s a.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 39m 49s):

That’s a lot of asks

Sean P. Holman (1h 39m 50s):

We’re Yeah, but we’re gonna say

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 39m 51s):

I’m in the hefty

Sean P. Holman (1h 39m 52s):

Asks our guys and our Ladies listening to the show are up for it. You watch? I bet we have five this week. Really? don Don’t know. I’m gonna say 10,

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 40m 1s):

Maybe 30. All right. So earlier we talked about the bank’s big ass filter. If you want a a high flow, great dust capacity filter, go to Banks Type in your year make and model. But I wanted to flip the script a little bit. Holman, I forgot to tell you that the bank’s i dash stealth pod that is in your Jeep 3 92. Yes.

Sean P. Holman (1h 40m 22s):

The prototype

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 40m 23s):

Is now available to everyone

Sean P. Holman (1h 40m 25s):

And not a prototype now, no

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 40m 26s):

Longer prototypes. They are beautiful. Really sturdy mounts for your eyed dash. If you’re thinking if you’ve got a Jeep, I know we make ’em for a Banks has ’em for a lot of different trucks, but specifically the Jeep. Yep. You’ve been testing it out for a

Sean P. Holman (1h 40m 40s):

Couple weeks and you guys have designed one that stays outta the way of the visor. So the other one’s on the market go up in the corner of the windshield. You can’t put your sun visor all the way down. And so the bank’s one allows you full use of your visor and it installs way better. No epoxy. You can do it with all hardware and it fits the ID dash perfectly. And it’s exactly where you want it in line of sight. And I think you guys are going to make it so you can put it on top the lower the or bottom of of the grab

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 41m 3s):

Handle, right? That’s correct. Yep. Aaron, one of our mechanical engineers is working on that now. But right now you can’t wait. We’ve got like 120 of ’em in stock. I know. ’cause I just checked today. well

Sean P. Holman (1h 41m 10s):

I this, if you want to go to at a DV Jeep at Adventure Jeep a DV Jeep, that’s my Jeep page. There’s a picture of the Mount with the I dash in it. Go check it out.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 41m 22s):

So if you guys were looking for an excuse to buy a bank’s eyed dash that this is your excuse.

Sean P. Holman (1h 41m 26s):

Why? ’cause you mount it now. Because

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 41m 27s):

Now it’s got a really sexy mount. I love it.

Sean P. Holman (1h 41m 30s):

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Sean P. Holman (1h 42m 14s):

So SD Wheel dot com.

Producer? (1h 42m 16s):

All right guys, that was a great test run. Let’s record the real show now.

Sean P. Holman (1h 42m 22s):


Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 42m 22s):

That’s the best we got, dude that.

Sean P. Holman (1h 42m 24s):

That’s it.

Jay “Lightning” Tilles (1h 42m 26s):

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