Aaron Rodriguez from PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod joins the guys and talks about the best and worst things about the 7.3L, 6.0L, 6.4L, and 6.7L PowerStroke engines. Find out which one is his favorite and which one to avoid at all costs. This episode of The Truck Show Podcast is presented by Nissan in association with Banks Power.



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Warning, the following show features stunts performed either by professionals or under the supervision of professionals. Accordingly, the producers must insist that no one attempt to recreate or reenact any stunt or activity performed on this show.

Lightning (12s):

Check 1, 2, 1, 2. This is the Truck Show podcast with Lightning and Holman. What’s up guys? What, what do you think of that intro?

Holman (20s):

Who, who are you talking to?

Lightning (22s):

Anyone listening.

Holman (23s):

Okay. I’m, I’m just looking around this room. It’s just us.

Lightning (26s):

There’s no one in here.

Holman (27s):

It’s funny as normally on Sunday night we put up the episode. Yeah. It’s, it’s Sunday night. Yeah. You decided to go snowboarding instead of doing podcast work. And then I’ve been slaving all week on our podcast studio, which isn’t actually true cuz I was traveling then I was sling,

Lightning (43s):

I I went to the local mountains

Holman (46s):

And it almost got snowed in and

Lightning (47s):

Trapped there. And I almost got, I almost got

Holman (48s):

Trapped the storm hitting right this minute. And you almost didn’t make it down. I

Lightning (52s):

Left this morning. We’re recording this at around, I don’t know, it’s like three in the afternoon. And I left this morning at around 9:00 AM and I just got

Holman (59s):

Here and it’s normally a two hour drive.

Lightning (1m 1s):

Yes. And it took me five-ish hours.

3 (1m 4s):

Are we there yet?

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Not yet.

Holman (1m 8s):

I was, I went to, well it was a busy week, so I, I’ve got the Titan XD still.

Lightning (1m 14s):

Oh, I saw it sitting outside. Beautiful.

Holman (1m 16s):

And so I towed a Patriot X three trailer out, which is like an overland trailer. It didn’t even, I mean, it didn’t even care the trailers behind it. We’d, you know, say 4,000 pounds or something like that. Whatever, didn’t care. Towed it out to Prescott. See the guys at Overland Journal and went on their podcast. I’m gonna be on a upcoming episode of their podcast. So

Lightning (1m 34s):

If you say Prescott, do they slap

Holman (1m 36s):

You? So funny story about that, I asked, I go, all right, so what is, is it Prescott or Prescott? And so my friend who was on the podcast, Matt Scott, said Prescott one time in a bar. And he goes, you know, it’s Prescott. And he goes, well, my name’s not skit. And the guy goes, all right, fair point. So I guess if your name’s Scott, you can call it Prescott. Prescott. Everybody else should call it Prescott. Anyway, point being, I was there and did a little pod with them and, and towed the trailer out and then made it back in time for MPM C And then I had meetings with like 20 companies. And what

Lightning (2m 7s):

Does MPC stand for? Do you know? Media

Holman (2m 9s):

Something. Media doing stuff. It’s like a speed dating sema, basically. Okay. So Seima puts it on, it’s a trade council for a journalist to meet with manufacturer. You’ve done it before. And on the manufacturer side,

Lightning (2m 20s):

You’ve never done it. Oh, I thought you had

Holman (2m 21s):

Nope. Well, Biggs has in the past. Yes, but you haven’t. So anyway, it’s great. You, you speed date with these people. And it was my first industry appearance as not Sean from four-Wheeler. It was Sean from Truck,

Lightning (2m 34s):


Holman (2m 35s):

Truck Famous O v r used for adventure in O V R. Yeah. And so we had some incredible meetings about O V R mag. So o v r mag.com with go on the website. You

Lightning (2m 45s):

Mean this magazine right here.

Holman (2m 47s):

So tell me, all right.

Lightning (2m 48s):


Holman (2m 48s):

Through the pages. You haven’t seen it yet?

Lightning (2m 50s):

Nope. All.

Holman (2m 51s):


Lightning (2m 51s):

I’ve only seen photographs of the actual magazine

Holman (2m 54s):

At MPM C we presented, that’s the very first issue that’s on newsstands. We just found out this week we were supposed to be, be in half of the Barnes and Nobles about 220 nationwide. So we’re in books a million. We’re negotiating with Capellas and Bass Pro shops. And Barnes and Noble just sent a note to us last Wednesday, we’ve been approved for all 440 Barnes and Nobles

Lightning (3m 12s):

Shut the front door.

Holman (3m 13s):

Yep. And so we presented that magazine,

Lightning (3m 15s):

440 locations. Yep. You’ll be able

Holman (3m 17s):

To. Wow. Unlike my previous magazine, you’ll be able to find this one on newsstands. And dude,

Lightning (3m 22s):

This has got some heft to it. This is not a leaflet. No,

Holman (3m 25s):

No. It’s

Lightning (3m 25s):

Oversized, not famous Jewish Sports Legends. You know what I’m saying? This is a hundred and I’m gonna guess, I don’t know, I’m looking for the page number. 130 something pages right here. Yeah. These are thick, glossy pages. Yeah.

Holman (3m 38s):

So here’s the cool thing about it is, you know, everybody who says print is dead came from a world where, you know, digital is, is all that matters. And they, they’ve seen the, the decline of print. What’s beautiful about O V R is the business model is not the magazine. So we don’t live or die off that magazine from the add to edit ratio, which is how many ads you have for how many stories. So 132 pages is our floor. It’s six times a year. And that thing is going to be available digitally through Xeno subscription wise to your doorstep or mailbox or pick it up at the, the local store. But we are committed to print. And one of the things that we talked about with a lot of manufacturers, like we print, we just don’t, we weren’t happy with how thin the, the magazines got.

Holman (4m 24s):

So like, listen, if you do digital, you have to be, have a relationship with that person to come back and build daily habit to come to your website or find you through search. When you do print, when that sucker gets dropped in your door, in your mailbox or your, your doorstep, you’ve got a relationship where your brand is front and center six times a year. And everybody loved picking up that magazine and what we’re doing with it. So

Lightning (4m 46s):

Are you still

Holman (4m 46s):

Talking? I am. It’s

Lightning (4m 47s):

Amazing because I’m, I’m lost in the magazine. I’ve

Holman (4m 50s):

Had so many

Lightning (4m 50s):

Listeners over the last 30 seconds. I,

Holman (4m 52s):

Two times, doesn’t matter. Lots of listeners have been DMing me going, Hey, I miss print, I hear this. What, where can I find it? So it’s o v mag.com. Check it out. Would love for you guys.

Lightning (5m 1s):

It stands for Outdoor Vehicle Recreation.

Holman (5m 3s):

So the cool thing is it is, it s it over landing, but it doesn’t pigeonhole ourselves into over landing. There’s gonna be features, there’s gonna be destinations, there’s gonna be how-tos there’s gonna be. So, and, and one cool thing is working with OnX,

Lightning (5m 14s):

There’s a whole article about tools in here. Yeah. What the, there you go. What? So

Holman (5m 19s):

Check this out. When you go to the the

Lightning (5m 21s):


Holman (5m 21s):

This for me. No, I did write a couple stories in there though. Okay. When you go to the website and you look at some of our destination articles, there’s gonna be a OnX off-road overlay of the gps where you can click from the over VR website and load that trail to your software if you’re in an OnX subscriber. So there are a bunch of cool stuff coming, more coming from that. So it was a really exciting week for O V R cuz the magazine got launched, the website got launched. And

Lightning (5m 47s):

Do the guys know that there’s a Toyota content in here? Yep. There’s Toyota. They’re okay with that. There’s Jeep.

Holman (5m 51s):

Okay. There’s

Lightning (5m 51s):

Four, there’s Chevy, there’s all sorts of stuff. That’s a good looking tundra right there. Damn. Huh. So anyway. Wow. This is a good looking magazine. Here’s a nice warrant ad. Yeah.

Holman (6m 0s):


Lightning (6m 2s):

All right. I, I’ll put the magazine down since you guys can’t see it. O V R coming to your local newsstand.

Holman (6m 6s):

Yep. Or you could go o v r mag on Instagram, Facebook, all that kind of stuff. Okay. So check, check that out. So anyway, I met with people, we were pitching o v we’re pitching the truck show podcast, all that kind of stuff. And everybody’s like, you are the busiest, unemployed person we know. Have you slept since you lost your job? And I’m like, actually I’m feeling it right now. No, I’ve been in the process of building a studio. So I just so you guys are listening. I know We’re, we’re at banks again, thank you banks for loaning us conference room for one last time. I’m pretty sure I’m like 94 ish percent sure that our next show will be in the new pod.

Lightning (6m 40s):

That’ll be nice because as nice as this conference room is, it has a little bit of echo. Yeah, it’s a little bit of echo. Yeah. It’s not made to podcast

Holman (6m 47s):

Yet. About half the sto half the roof is done. I just started laying the acoustic tiles on the wall. Wait

Lightning (6m 52s):

A minute. I mean, it’s raining in

Holman (6m 53s):

No, no, no. The inside of the, the way the, you’ll see it when, when the, when you walk into the project. And the big thing is we turned on the electricity a couple days

Lightning (7m 2s):

Ago. I saw your Instagram post with the on air lights.

Holman (7m 4s):

We got lights we got, so one of my, a-hole friends was talking to my wife and it was, Hey, that my wife’s like that on air sign’s really cute. And I’m like, cute. It’s not meant to be cute. It’s meant so that when it’s on you guys don’t bother me.

Lightning (7m 17s):

I I was there when that conversation happened. Oh,

Holman (7m 19s):

Were you there? Yes, I was there. Were you the, were you

Lightning (7m 21s):

The whole friend? No, that was one of the guys in Rich’s party.

Holman (7m 24s):

Hmm. Yeah. And, and then my wife looks at me or I think somebody said something like, oh, you’re just gonna watch baseball out there and turn on tv. Yeah. And you’re gonna turn on the on air light. And I, I was like, shh. And my wife says, I hadn’t thought about that. And then she basically said, the minute that that trust of the light is eroded, cuz you’re doing something not recording the light will mean nothing.

Lightning (7m 46s):

Ugh. You, you can’t violate that trust. I know. We can’t have

Holman (7m 49s):

Abby, are you sure it wasn’t you who said that? Or was it

Lightning (7m 51s):

Rich? No, dude, it wasn’t me.

Holman (7m 52s):

Somebody said that and my wife looked at me like I had, like the whole scheme had unraveled. That’s not right. So anyway, the, I haven’t slept in, I don’t know, at least through, you know, so I thought, hey, I’m gonna get, you know, laid off and I’m gonna take a week off. Nope. So that Monday I slept until 10 30. That

Lightning (8m 8s):

Was it.

Holman (8m 9s):

And I have not slept since I’ve been going to bed at one, two in the morning. I’ve been dealing with all the business stuff. I’ve been dealing with advertiser, I’ve been dealing with building the pod shed I’ve been dealing with Right. In store. I mean, nobody, everybody says be an entrepreneur. Nobody tells you like you need a CPA and you need a lawyer.

Lightning (8m 23s):

Yes they do. And just don’t listen.

Holman (8m 24s):

And you need a bank account and then you need another bank account and then you need a checking account and then you need credit.

Lightning (8m 28s):

Let’s not bore them with all those details.

Holman (8m 30s):

But my point is, yeah, nobody says you need a tax c i number and you need to incorporate, and then you need officers and then you have to report stuff and then you need a business license and that, and he just goes down the list and you’re going, I just wanna freaking do a thing and have money come

Lightning (8m 44s):

In. Not that easy. It doesn’t work that way. No, the government wants it.

Holman (8m 47s):

No, everything is is is crazy. So anyway, crazy busy week, but we’re getting super close on the pod shed. So thank you for Nissan for letting me, me keep that XD for a little while longer. I had a chance to,

Lightning (8m 58s):

Can’t they just check it out of inventory permanently?

Holman (9m 0s):

Just leave it in my driveway. Yeah. I may not give it back to them. I had to go pick up

Lightning (9m 4s):

What would happen if you really didn’t deliver

Holman (9m 6s):

It. They would come pick it up four by 10 sheets of plywood for a subfloor because the floor of the touch, she’s pretty echoy. So we laid down rubber under layman, cork under layman. And then we put OSB board on top of it. Was able, I have the Titan boxes in the xd and I was like, oh man, I I hope hopefully those won’t encroach. Dude at Canal Lumber with a forklift comes over, drops ’em right in the bed from the side. I pushed it off the forks in there. No problem. And

Lightning (9m 31s):

The truck probably didn’t even squat much did it

Holman (9m 33s):

At all? Didn’t. Okay. Nothing. So, you know, like I said, it’s, it’s a super underrated truck. I’ve really enjoyed driving it. I’ve been cross country with it. I’ve towed with it, I’ve hauled with it. We did a podcast show our very first one of season two in the truck. Went outta San Diego with a family yesterday for my niece’s birthday. Every piled in the Titan. It’s been great. So you guys need a truck that can do it all? It’s luxurious, it’s quiet. You can do a podcast in it. Head over to nissan usa.com. You can build and price your own tight next to you or head on to your local dealer. We can check it out.

Lightning (10m 3s):

The only problem though is the warranty. It’s just a crap warranty.

Holman (10m 5s):

That’s horrible. Yeah. Yeah. It’s oh, oh, wait a second. It’s the best

Lightning (10m 9s):

Business. 100,000 miles. So

Holman (10m 11s):

This show started five years ago in another month from now we’re, it’s our five year anniversary. That means if you bought a Titan when our show started, your warranty’s just running out and we’re like, like, I don’t know, 275 episodes. That’s a lot.

Lightning (10m 26s):


Holman (10m 26s):

We put it that way. It’s pretty, it’s pretty impressive. I think

Lightning (10m 29s):

They’re pretty durable trucks too. Lot of ’em up in the snow where I just came from.

Holman (10m 33s):

Yeah. I, I’ve, I’ve, I’ve,

Lightning (10m 34s):

And a lot of, lot of frontiers.

Holman (10m 35s):

I’ve had a lot of Titan nods. People in Xds. Cause there’s not too many out of them out there. And the few people have seen me, they’re like, oh, another xd. It’s more of a just a, I got you. Like it’s a, a look across lanes, like Yeah.

Lightning (10m 46s):

Oh, is it the same thing? Like the motorcycle wave where you put the two fingers off to the side like peace, but

Holman (10m 50s):

Down low It’s more subtle. Oh. It’s just like, you know, we’re not, you know, us tighten people. We’re not trying to, you know, be boisterous. We just know. Do

Lightning (10m 56s):

You look over and see the guy coming in the opposite direction and in his eye goes

Holman (10m 60s):

<unk> We’re quietly confident is what I like to

Lightning (11m 2s):

Say. Like a little sparkle out of his eye. Perfect. Oh,

Holman (11m 3s):

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Lightning (11m 8s):

And for all those trucks that are ill-equipped and have very, very little data. You don’t know what your boost is. You don’t know what your exhaust gas temperature is, you don’t know what even what gear you’re in. I mean, some of the Ram trucks don’t even show your gear. If you get a bank’s ID dash, it’ll display all the things that you’ve been hankering to see. Can I say hankering? Is that lame?

Holman (11m 27s):

I’m, I’m fine with your hankering.

Lightning (11m 29s):

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Holman (11m 43s):

Alright. And before we start the show, we have to thank our friend Derek over at Full Moon Digital Marketing and Full Moon is helping us out with our social He no

Lightning (11m 52s):

Wait, you seen their logo, right?

Holman (11m 53s):

Yeah, but that’s a, that’s

Lightning (11m 54s):

It’s like a, that’s like a wolf coyote at the moon. Is it a coyote?

Holman (11m 57s):

Yeah, but why are you doing it? Are you part of their

Lightning (11m 58s):

Logo? No, you

Holman (11m 59s):

Don’t look like a wolf. You look more like a gorilla. Old, old hairy gorilla.

Lightning (12m 4s):


Holman (12m 4s):

Polar bear. So Full Moon Digital is stepping up. You guys will start seeing some more stuff on at Truck Show Podcast, which is on Facebook and Instagram as we try and grow the show and, and get some more, some more listeners. And also there’ll be a lot more social coming up as we have more time. Once, once the podcast studio is fully built and we’re able to, to move in and cross that off the list. We’ll be doing a lot more with the show. We’ve got a lot of exciting stuff coming later on this year. But Full Moon Digital is pack of open-minded, innovative, and fearless thinkers that merge a wide range of industries, countries, and cultures with every project. They bring a depth of experience, valuable insights, strategic thinking and commitment to successful execution. Their team of interdisciplinary experts.

Lightning (12m 44s):

That’s a big

Holman (12m 45s):

New standards for agency service and partnerships that are scalable while producing multiple opportunities to grow and evolve your business to deliver desirable outcomes. If you’re looking for a marketing team that can help grow your business, like we are over here at the Truck Show podcast, you’ll wanna head over to full moon digital.com so you can find out what services they have for your growing company.

Lightning (13m 2s):

I mean, look, if they can help us, they can help anyone.

5 (13m 6s):

The truck show, we’re gonna show you what we know. We’re gonna answer what the truck cause truck runs with <unk> the truck show. We have the lifted, we have the lower than everything in between. We’ll talk about trucks that run on diesel and the ones that run on gasoline. The truck show. The truck show The truck show.

6 (13m 37s):

It’s the truck show with your hosts Lightning and Holman. What’s

Lightning (13m 43s):

That? I don’t know. You

Holman (13m 44s):

Started and you went, whoa. Oh,

5 (13m 45s):

And then you realized that you chastised for

Holman (13m 47s):

Me for that and I I didn’t do it. And then you just fell off. Cliff, you go,

Lightning (13m 50s):

Whoa. Oh, I started singing that I had to pop myself down. I didn’t, I wasn’t super weird. I wasn’t hitting the note’s. A

Holman (13m 56s):

Really weird, we need a to autotune you or something. I guess

Lightning (14m 1s):

So. I have to after we’re done with this. Yeah, I have to go record. Well, I have to edit this and then I have to record me singing

Holman (14m 8s):


Lightning (14m 9s):

A new jingle. Just, no, it’s for a documentary. Oh.

Holman (14m 12s):

All right. Wife. Hoping you’re gonna have a new jingle for us or

Lightning (14m 14s):

Something. No, I do need, we, we need some new jeans. All

Holman (14m 16s):

Right. So who’s on the show? What are we doing?

Lightning (14m 18s):

Aaron Rodriguez. Aaron Rodriguez. I happened pawn a YouTube channel called Powerstroke Tech Talk with Arod. And I thought, Hmm, that’s interesting. And then I discovered that every Wednesday, I think it’s Wednesday night, they do a live YouTube. It’s kind of like a, a round table where Aaron and a few other Powerstroke fans get together.

Holman (14m 40s):

Just so you know, we’re doing that. We’re gonna do some sort of regular kind of a listener deal. Oh, we are? Yeah. Maybe half hour, 45 minutes of just truck show podcast stuff so we can kind of in interact a little

Lightning (14m 50s):

Bit more. Gotcha. Anyway, so he turned out to be, this is about nine months ago, I found Aaron and I sent him a couple of banks products and he tested them out, liked them, and then we started talking and we needed some help digging into the, as you say, the backside of water. Yes. The, the secret sauce into Secret Ford Secret sauce. Okay. And he’s got some friends in some high places and was able to leak us some information about the new 23 and 24 Ford F two 50

Holman (15m 22s):

S. What are we waiting for? Let’s call him.

Lightning (15m 24s):

Okay, let’s dial Mr. Aaron Rodriguez.

Aaron (15m 34s):

Yo, what’s up

Lightning (15m 35s):

Man? What’s happening? It’s Lightning and Home in Truck Show podcast.

Holman (15m 37s):

How you doing?

Aaron (15m 38s):

What’s going on? What’s going on?

Lightning (15m 40s):

Were you eating or drinking? What? You just interrupt you in dinnertime.

Holman (15m 43s):

Just gargling.

Aaron (15m 44s):

Saltwater. Just garing. Some bubbly some.

Lightning (15m 49s):

Well, when I texted you earlier, you were on the way to Home Depot. You’re like, call me later. I’m headed to Home

Holman (15m 53s):

Depot. I’m busy right now.

Aaron (15m 55s):

Oh yeah, we, we good. We’re just picking up a couple of Milwaukee things, but we we’re back in the Battle station ready to rock and

Holman (16m 3s):

Roll Milwaukee things. That could be beer or it could be red tools if

Aaron (16m 6s):

You Home Depot. No, wanted to get that m t radio. It’s got that. Oh, do I

Holman (16m 10s):

Think rocks? So Rich had one of those at my house. My, our, our buddy Richie was helping us with our new pod shed had one of those Milwaukee M 18 radio deals and that sucker’s loud. It was pretty, pretty

Aaron (16m 22s):

Rad. It’s great. Boy. All right. I like it.

Lightning (16m 24s):

All right, well, well, we’ve got power stroke and Milwaukee to talk about in just a minute, but first we have an intro, so don’t move.

9 (16m 42s):

It’s never used to.

Holman (16m 47s):


Lightning (16m 48s):

Been a minute since we played that

Holman (16m 49s):

Haven’t, haven’t played in a while, maam.

Lightning (16m 51s):

So Aaron? Yes, sir. You and I, this Lightning speaking you and I started chatting, I don’t know, nine months, a year ago, something like that.

Holman (16m 58s):

Did which one of you swiped right?

Lightning (17m 1s):

I started dating him first before he

Holman (17m 2s):

Knew about it. Is this where the conversation gets super awkward and we No, I don’t think so. Are you trying to make amends with him? I happy him on the podcast.

Lightning (17m 10s):

I, I can’t remember if I, I think I saw Aaron’s channel on YouTube, Powerstroke Tech Talk with Arod and they were talking about intakes Orzo or something. And I

Holman (17m 21s):

So did you ever have people who are like, Hey, I didn’t know that you had a baseball career and you knew about Power Strokes? Wrong guy. Oh yeah. Oh, oh, I was just going out the Arod thing, right? Yeah.

Aaron (17m 33s):

Thank, yeah. Thankfully I I absolutely hate sports. And

Holman (17m 37s):


9 (17m 37s):

Mean, you cheat

Aaron (17m 39s):

Buca is

Holman (17m 39s):


Aaron (17m 40s):

That guy. That’s about it. Do what now?

Holman (17m 42s):

Do you cheat less than the other guy?

Aaron (17m 44s):

I don’t cheat at all. I’m a a non cheater.

Holman (17m 47s):

So we don’t have to call you Afro like the other guy guy. No,

Aaron (17m 50s):

No, no,

Holman (17m 50s):

No. I booed that in

Aaron (17m 51s):

Stadium. I’m all natural

Holman (17m 52s):

Baby. All right. All right. Just wanna set the, the ground rules here so we know what we’re getting ourselves into.

Aaron (17m 57s):

Paul Nare.

Lightning (17m 58s):

So Aaron, before you started the podcast, or I should say, what, what are we calling? Power?

Aaron (18m 5s):


Lightning (18m 5s):

Livestream. Okay. Yep.

Aaron (18m 7s):

Yep. We do every Saturday. What’s every Wednesday night at 9:00 PM

Lightning (18m 10s):

Okay. What’s your history with power Strokes in being a mechanic?

Aaron (18m 14s):

Been in, in the, the Powerstroke field for over 20 years and grew up on the tail end of the Seven Three and extensively grew up in, in the six oh realm and moved to the six four and now my absolute favorite six seven platform. And it’s been cool to see the change and you know, what we’ve had to adapt to. And now the six seven being the diesel in the Ford pickup or the Ford Truck platform, it’s been here for over 10 years and it’s been rocking and rolling. They’ve been making, you know, subtle tweaks and changes as you know, both you and I know, and I, I love it.

Aaron (18m 56s):


Holman (18m 56s):

My That’s a crazy rollercoaster. You’re like, oh dude, seven three Best Diesel ever. Then you’re like, Ooh, six liter. That’s, that’s super weird. And then you’re like, Ooh, all the crap. They hung off the six liter and cut corners and it’s like, it should be a good engine, but it’s not. Then it was like a little bit of redemption with the six four. You’re like, well, okay, all right. We’re getting better. We’re getting better. And now finally, it sounds like the, what used to be called the Scorpion as a, as its code name during development has turned out to be a really exceptional engine platform for Ford. Isn’t

Lightning (19m 26s):

Weird that no one calls it the Scorpion anymore.

Holman (19m 29s):

I don’t think anybody really ever did. It was just sort of like a insider thing. I, I think, yeah, the other thing is interesting is during that time it went from being an international, you know, collaboration and engine to being a completely in-house engine. And there was a lot of interest early on about the six, seven being Ford, Ford doing this completely in-house engine replace, you know, it’s like, well international, those guys were the diesel experts. And then everybody wondered, well, is this, this new Ford looks good on paper, but is it going to, you know, be able to, to live up to like the old seven three? And, and, and that reputation absolutely has. I mean the engine, especially with that 10 speed, have been an amazing, amazing drive train for Ford trucks.

Aaron (20m 13s):

Oh, most definitely. And when they went to, I think the 2020 was the, the start of a new chapter with the six seven, just because we got the 10 speed, you know, we’re looking at over a thousand foot pounds of torque and you know, I think right around 4 75 horse, maybe I, I can’t remember the number right off the rip, but I mean it was, you know, a total game changer. You got a truck that is, is pushing 9,000 pounds, getting over 20 miles a gallon, rocking twenties. I mean, what else could you want? I wouldn’t want an F-150. If I’m gonna be paying, paying for a truck, I’m gonna Annie up the extra 200 extra 300 bucks a month. I’m gonna get me a, a super duty.

Aaron (20m 53s):

I ain’t, I ain’t messing around with a little, little F1 50 s.

Lightning (20m 57s):

How did you get started with power strokes back in the day as opposed to, you could have been a Ram guy or a Silverado guy?

Aaron (21m 4s):

The, the, it was in high school. I had the co-op and you know, I had to go to a, a dealer and it was just kind of, you know, the Ford dealer was, was closest to me at the time, so kind of, you know, went in there and you know, it was one of those things where you, you’re, oh, I could miss a hour of school man, but I could go to work, I could make some money. And it just kind of transcended from that, from being a, a porter for the first, you know, point of contact to the dealer. Hey, where can I go to pick my car up? Oh, right down here. You know, then became, you know, appointment coordinator and did just kind of worked my way through Serviceis and you know, then

Holman (21m 41s):

I did that job. You were a porter? Yeah, I was a porter. I was a parts guy. Yeah. Yeah. All sorts of stuff. Service writer.

Aaron (21m 48s):

Hey, go do this. Hey, go do

Holman (21m 50s):

This. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Hey, although you weren’t a good porter, if you didn’t have your dealership’s license plate frame handy with a screwdriver so that when the other dealerships that compete against you came to grab parts from your parts departments, cuz there’s often like, oh, you put that dealer on the truck. Well, usually what we would do is we would remove their windshield wiper blades, swap out their license plate frames, turn their heater on full blast and mess up their mirrors. Yeah, yeah. Yep.

Aaron (22m 15s):

Casually walk by and push the corner of the mirror in all the

Holman (22m 17s):

Road. Exactly.

Lightning (22m 19s):

So it’s not like you were a Ford fan, you just walked into the local dealer trying to get a gig and then you turned in pretty much and that turned into a love for Ford’s.

Aaron (22m 27s):

Yeah, absolutely. After I’ve been there since I was 16, so it’s been quite a, quite a long time.

Lightning (22m 34s):

And so when did you become a mechanic?

Aaron (22m 38s):

So I went to, it would’ve been after oh four when I graduated the Ford Asset Program, which was a two year after high school, two years associate’s degree in applied science program. And you go to school for eight weeks, learn about X, y, Z and then you go to the dealer for eight weeks and work and make money and work with the technicians that work on X, Y, Z And then you go back to school for eight weeks and do J K L and then you go back to work and you repeat this for two years. And it was a lot of hands on. And I stayed with fortunately the same guy every time. And he did gas drivability and diesel drivability.

Aaron (23m 20s):

And then the diesel heavy guy left and we kind of morphed into drivability and heavy. And then he’s like, all right, well you think you can handle this? And it was like, oh yeah man, where you going on vacation? You gonna like Mexico or something? No, I’m quitting. I’m like, oh my gosh. Who’s I’m

Holman (23m 36s):

The dude now. I’m the dude

Aaron (23m 37s):

Now. And the six oh just came out. So I’m Ethan Mellon and, and and hating everything and I’m just not, you know, I’m just trying to learn and grasp all this, this, you know, high pressure, oil weight, 3000 weight, how wow we can leak inside weight. Just was, I, I couldn’t, I couldn’t connect the dots and it took me a while to, you know, to learn to, to,

Holman (23m 59s):

Well, and how about that Ford? That Ford that yeah. Likes to do the, the oil drain plug on the very bottom surface of their oil pans and on some of ’em that are aluminum, they’re ribbed. And then when you go to do an oil change and your knuckles go across every one of those ribs and rip off the top of your, your knuckle skin. Yeah. I remember the first time I worked at the Ford dealership as a, as a quick lube guy, a Ford Ford liter explorer came in and they’re like, Hey, go change the oil on that new kid. It’s like, sweet, here’s a wrench, grab the wrench. And they all were standing watching me and I’m thinking, well they just wanna see if I know how to change the oil in the vehicle. No, they were waiting for the ribs of the oil pan to remove all the skin to the bone on the knuckle of the hand on the wrench.

Holman (24m 39s):

And guess what? It abs it absolutely happened. And at that it same moment as blood was shooting out from flaps of skin on it, oil, hot oil was pouring into the womb. Oh. Oh, that was my Ford service. Welcome to the team kid.

Aaron (24m 52s):

My, my first one was, we were working on, you know, so this would’ve been like a 19 98, 19 99 Eclipse, E three 50 conversion van. Yeah, that sounds about right. We had, we had to do the spark plugs and it was, you know, cylinders four and eight, you know, oh do all the back ones. Well you gotta take the dog

Holman (25m 11s):

Off, doghouse off.

Aaron (25m 11s):

Yeah. So you got the whole like steel body, like subframe floor, you know, where the doghouse mounts and mates two and seals against not knowing, just like you said, you know, at the wrench and the skin. It’s like, oh well just take the spark plug and boom knuckles right into the end of that sheet metal. Oh boy

Holman (25m 30s):

Man, that’s a sharp edge.

Aaron (25m 32s):

Mm mm

Holman (25m 33s):

Yep. I can think of several Ford vehicles that will ruin you your first time out.

Aaron (25m 39s):

Yeah, I think the six Os were responsible for my herniated disc. I’m sure of. So,

Holman (25m 44s):

Man, I,

Lightning (25m 44s):

Aaron, let’s talk about the, the channel here because I think it’s gonna take us more forward content and Yes sir. So when did you start the channel and why?

Aaron (25m 54s):

So the channel actually began was like, oh man, I wanna show Jay this. Oh man, I can’t take this greeny next tell I 95 video. Right? And it’s just, it wouldn’t, oh you know what? I could just upload it to YouTube and send them the link, right? So it became this, I wanna show my buddies this what I did at work and this and this and this and this. And then I was like, whoa. Oh wow. Peop oh, and it kind of straightened arrowed path what I wanted to do. And it was, you know, I saw a, a big response from people with the power strokes and I really suited up and, you know, tried to deliver concise, no bullshit, straight to the point material that people can benefit from.

Aaron (26m 42s):

Cuz it’s ultimately, I I’m looking at it like I learned all of this stuff and it would be greedy for me to keep this to myself. Don’t tell me for the information that I’m gonna divulge to the internet that I am going to somehow take money from out of everybody else’s pockets from the 3,500 dealers across the union there. Do you have any idea how many millions, millions, plural of these trucks are on the road? Many. I don’t think so many millions. I don’t think so. So it’s as, as, as much as we can do to keep this platform running and you dude, text me or not text me, but reach out email, you know, Hey, I’m on the side of the road, I’m on rush, stop, you know, blah blah blah.

Aaron (27m 29s):

What’s this, this, this, this. They’re on the road, they’re trying to make money. This is their livelihood. Dealers jerking ’em around. What’s, what are they gonna do? So I’ve created this community, which is really, really nice. A lot of, a lot of nice response from everybody and it’s been real neat to meet a lot of people and, and to connect, you know, not just the trucks and the customers that are coming in through my store. It’s on a, a global scale. I got a couple of people in Australia and a handful of dudes in Canada.

Lightning (28m 6s):

So of the content you, we talked about on Wednesdays, you’re doing this the livestream Yep. On Powerstroke Tech talk with Arod. But you’ve also got a bunch of videos here where they’re like you, you’re reviewing products, you’re testing products, putting ’em through the ringer. You’ve got like one that’s a million mile, 6.7 2013 F three 50 with a million miles on it. Right? You called it a true unicorn. You’d love to see that.

Aaron (28m 28s):

Yep. That was awesome.

Lightning (28m 30s):

You’re talking about glow plugs, you’re talking about all sorts of pieces of the engine, good, bad, the ugly. What are some of your favorite tech tips that you’ve posted and been surprised that the world didn’t know about them?

Aaron (28m 47s):

I think my top, top, top one is why your oil filter is this has been viewed over a million times. Why your oil filter leaks, why does your oil filter come in like this? I see so many trucks comes in, looks like the oil filter’s crying, well just leaking

Lightning (29m 6s):


Aaron (29m 7s):

And these people are on the internet are straight tripping hashtag break clean mafia because the people who are installing the oil filter are not taking into consideration because this dude, Johnny, Johnny, Johnny Bad foot over here just pulled in. It’s gotta get his oil change in and out the door. It’s not cooled down so the oil that is still dripping is dripping and dripping and dripping and dripping and dripping as he’s putting the oil filters on. I was like, all right buddy, you’re good to go fill her up. Well all that oil just got all in that ridge. So now here it is a hundred miles later, it looks like, like your oil filter’s crying and now you got a leak, which should not be there on your $80,000 truck.

Aaron (29m 48s):

And these guys are tripping. And I didn’t think they were cognitive to realize that it’s not a crappy motorcraft oil filter. You can put a AM soil filter, you can put a banks oil filter on it. You can put a a a Bugatti oil filter on

Holman (30m 6s):

How about a truck show podcast, oil filter.

Lightning (30m 8s):

Are you saying we need those? We

Holman (30m 9s):

Need licensing. Yeah.

Aaron (30m 11s):


Lightning (30m 11s):

Goodness. Someone called

Holman (30m 12s):

Baldwin, they’ll, they’ll leak oil like we leak bad, bad content.

Aaron (30m 17s):

That’s funny.

Lightning (30m 19s):

And so guys are, you’re explaining the issue and that what was, what’s the solve

Aaron (30m 25s):

To clean that ridge out? Yeah, with bra clean

Holman (30m 29s):

And wipe it down where the, where the yeah, the rubber gasket is and you put a little bit of oil on there but you don’t like have it Dr just like, I don’t understand people who go having been in a quick lube bay, it takes an extra 15 seconds to wipe it all down, spray with brake, clean, wipe it down, put a little oil on the rubber gasket and throw the sucker back on there. And so many people are lazy and there’s nothing more irritating than your brand new car or truck. You take it home and it’s already got drips under it under the driveway. And I’ve had that happen. Or the double gasket where they don’t scrape the old gasket off and then it’s just like all over the place. Come on guys,

Aaron (31m 6s):

Now I’m gonna bring something to your attention. You’re gonna, you’re gonna notice it every time now watch, you’ll be at a traffic light and you can see underneath everybody’s car, right? So you got that, that low of a angle. You’re, you’re driving up to a stop sign and dude stopping at the stop sign ahead of you. You can see down below all these cars ev look at all these cars, bang, bang, bang, look how many of them, they, them underbelly shields is hanging like only three points are connected in the back

Holman (31m 31s):

Corners see all the time. Or if it’s one of the front edges where oh my goodness, where it’s peeled down from the wind because it, now it’s a scoop and now it’s hanging down and not only is it scooping up wind and trying to rip off anything on the road, water bottles or dirt or whatever, it’s just scraping it up and shoving it up and packing it and your transmission’s like, oh dude, my my transmission’s really hot. Yeah, because you scooped up everything like a bulldozer and it has no way of

Lightning (31m 54s):

Pulling, no way. Are, are you saying that they’re taking these things to like a, a Jiffy Lube or something and the guy’s not putting the, the pan up or they’re just breaking what? I don’t, I don’t understand what you’re insinuating

Aaron (32m 4s):

Or I mean the, the fasteners, either one thing happened, you either hit something, wrote debris, you broke it, or the person who took it off decided that his playschool tools were tightening it tighten enough and it obviously wasn’t. So that’s the only two things that I can see, see causing that I, something I take into consideration when I get these vehicle. Cause a lot of cop cars have ’em, we do all the, you know, fleet maintenance for, for you know, the municipalities and whatnot. So, you know, that has to go on. And one of the other things that people commonly forget about is the axle four by four U joints got a greasing puppies,

Holman (32m 42s):


Aaron (32m 43s):

People forget about ’em and then they wonder why they have, you know, poor steering wheel returnability or you know, premature U joint failure. These things, you know, need, need lubrication and you know, hope you guys aren’t running around with the front hubs locked in and spinning those mechanisms, those materials that mass, that rotational mass that doesn’t really need to be spinning. So that’s a big, big one that I, you know, try to hammer on every, you know, every maintenance cuz that’s part of now the grease job and oil change.

Lightning (33m 17s):

How often are you asked about diesel additives worth fuel and oil and what are your feelings?

Aaron (33m 27s):

I only like 10 30 and five 40. So you can pick whatever flavor you want. I, I chose AM oil. I bought a 55 gallon Juma AM oil myself. I mean the motor craft’s. Okay. I don’t ever, this is my thing, I I, I like the motorcraft stuff but I You don’t ever see any advertisements for any motorcraft? Anything? Nothing. You don’t see it on tv? You don’t hear it on the radio? No. Nothing. Nothing. Okay. Well I’m done with the MOTORCRAFT stuff and I think there’s some better materials, better lubricants out there that

Holman (34m 4s):

Still meet the standard

Aaron (34m 5s):

That I would like. Yeah. And if might maybe exceed it’s, they got some good stuff. Oil’s got some really nice fuel additives. They got some nice oil and then hot shots. It’s another one that I run heavy. I go, you know, back and forth between those, between those two. But

Lightning (34m 20s):

With those products though, Aaron, have you noticed a difference? Have you seen people

Holman (34m 25s):

Swear by hotshot man

Lightning (34m 26s):

A fuel economy difference? Have you seen a lot difference? Yeah,

Aaron (34m 30s):

Well stick, I’m not really worried about with the high pressure fuel, if I was the, the six oh realm days, the, the Huey most definitely. But cold weather start ability, most definitely you’d notice. Am I noticing anything gallon wise? Maybe a half mile gallon. I’m more concerned about, you know, when we buy diesel fuel, there’s no diesel number, just says diesel. You look at the gas and it says 87 90 93. Well it can’t have 90 in the 87 and 87 in the 93 per standard per law. It has to have 93. We know we are getting 87, but what the diesel just says diesel.

Aaron (35m 12s):

It’s like, is it good? I mean what’s,

Holman (35m 15s):

What’s the Satan rating? What’s the formula? What’s, yeah right? How much biodiesel is in it?

Aaron (35m 20s):

I am a heavy dor. I don’t care what the instructions say on the back. I have a 60 gallon tank. So any bottle that you really buy, I’m dumping half a bottle to my tank. It’s something that I have, have put in in my vehicle. I’m a 92nd tank I think now since I’ve had it and every tank has had a bottle, a half bottle, it’s had some sort of fuel additive added every tank. All

Holman (35m 50s):

Right. I wanna go to more of a meat and potatoes question. And that is obviously Powerstroke has span many generations since you jumped into being a mechanic. What are the, let’s say top three things from each platform from seven three onto the current second gen six, seven that you tell would tell people they need to be aware of. Because right now, as you know, the secondary truck market is, is pretty unbelievable with pricing and people searching those things out. So there’s a lot of people buying older trucks. So let’s go through each one of those. What are the top three things about each truck or the each engine that people should know about when they’re, when they’re starting out?

Aaron (36m 30s):

Okay, so seven three, I love them but I don’t want to deal with the dinosaurs anymore. I work on ’em any day. Valve covers, no big deal. Rip ’em off if you have any issues where I’ve seen underneath the valve covers, those wires can come loose. That’s the top one. You can’t really see it when you’re going to buy it. So it’s kind of, you’re gonna have to see how it runs and kind of go by that. The biggest thing with that is the oil pan leaking, oil pan leaking engine’s gotta come out. I don’t care who, what the engine’s gotta come out. If you want it done right, you gotta pull the engine. So know that, check the coolant because I’ve done a lot of injector cups with fuel and the coolant. So all you gotta do is use your sniffer, use your nose, take that cap off and give it a little sniffy sniff.

Aaron (37m 13s):

And if it smells like coolant, cool. If it smells like fuel then we’re gonna need to have a talkie talk. Ooh. So what

Holman (37m 20s):

Is the, what is the talk? Yeah, what’s the common cause of mixing fuel?

Aaron (37m 23s):

Injector cups. Injector cups, slitting. And that would, the workshop manual says you need to remove the head, but there is another way around it. We’ve got a video on the channel and the seven three playlist where we’ve did a job using the rfra diesel injector cup remover and installer tool and we were able to do it in Jesse six oh pop the hood first signs. I’m gonna look at why is there white stuffed spewing from underneath my DGAs bottle cap? That’s a big one. That’s cab off. That’s stretched head bolts. You’re gonna need head gaskets. A r p head studs the whole shebang.

Holman (38m 3s):

Is that what you call bad spoo?

Aaron (38m 5s):

Yeah, it’s just not good man. Yeah, yeah. What’s the other one for six? Oh my six. Oh my favorite because we didn’t have a V G T on the seven three. We got that on the six. Oh. So then we got more moving parts. The unison ring, those veins, they all like to stick, get rusted up. It’s raw iron exposed to the atmosphere, they like to stick And then so

Lightning (38m 32s):

What’s the fix for that? You’ve gotta just swap out the turbo, right?

Aaron (38m 35s):

Yeah, swap it out. If you’re gonna let it sit, you’re gonna need to one. If you had a device where you could take control of the turbo and active command it, that’d be cool. Or take it out and drive it and romp that thing. That’s what you’re supposed to do it. I mean you get into a boost range where it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work and then rust builds up and Russ builds up and then you go to use it in a spot where it’s never been and then that Russ hangs up the plate. That’s, you know, it’s just a whole, you know, cluster mess. Not goodness.

Lightning (39m 4s):

Speaking of not using your turbo, I wanna take a a a tangent here and then we’ll get back onto the, the other models but only if you get back. Okay, we’ll get it back. Okay. I’m just making sure. How often do you find that your viewers or friends, family, anyone have a case of diesel inappropriateness and that’s where they buy too much truck for the job and they don’t end up using it properly and things start sticking because like you talked to Turbo, they never use, they like loads in the, in the boot. They what much like lightning. They like loads.

Aaron (39m 36s):

The only

Lightning (39m 37s):

Scenario, that’s what she said. Yeah, late, late to the party on that one it was

Aaron (39m 42s):

We, the scenario that I see the majority of the time with that are the older couples that will fifth wheel, they’re two wheel drive truck and trailer down to Florida for the winter. That truck doesn’t get used but to tow the trailer down to Florida for the winter months. So he might put a thousand miles, 1500 miles on it while he is up here because he’s got a little puddle jumper he drives. Those are the snowbirds are the usually the ones. Hey Dan, I’m sorry but I’m gonna have to pull this turbo. It’s all I got. 27. I know sir, but unfortunately it’s 12 years old and this thing has just sad.

Aaron (40m 25s):

And to explain this to people, it’s the turbo’s, the problem

Lightning (40m 29s):

Drive drop. You can

Aaron (40m 29s):

Drive it, you can either drive it and hope it on freeze cuz you need to drive it and drop on it or you’re gonna have to pay me to take it off and clean it or replace it. So that’s the gist of it.

Lightning (40m 40s):

So back to six. Oh 64.

Aaron (40m 43s):

Yep. So 64 please. Everybody have mercy on our souls. If everybody had a a dollar for every time I hit my head on that stupid grill that came up with the hood, poor design, poor design. This one is, is a, is kind of a bugger. We got a couple things going on. We have high pressure fuel system components underneath the valve covers. Now everything’s internal. So if we have a leak, the current case level’s gonna rise. But on this particular truck, because of the regen, we don’t have any d e F and any type of of different after treatment like we are accustomed to now we had post-injection and it was a really heavy post-injection and we would get sometimes if regen wasn’t able to complete, we would try to get this post-injection post-injection and the crank case level would rise.

Aaron (41m 34s):

So we would have the ability of these six four s to grow oil and it’s like, oh man, what do you do? What do you got? You gotta take the valve covers off and that it’s just kind of a pain. Stay up on the regions. If if you got what you got, I’d advise you to sell it. I wouldn’t look at one. If you have it and it’s running, sell it while it’s running and it’s just gonna be a disposable, replaceable boat anchor, it’s gonna cost you 20 grand every, every, every, every time you go around. So

Holman (42m 7s):

That’s, it’s a real, that’s not what we wanna hear that that’s our

Aaron (42m 10s):

Freddy talking bad about the product. It’s just the six four.

Holman (42m 15s):

So the six four when it came out, everybody was excited about it cuz it was supposed to be the savior that si fixed all the six oh problems and it was a good engine for a period of time. But going back to building out the pod shed with a rich holdaway from HCI Construction who came out to help us do it. He had his six four was towing through the grapevine, got to SoCal and he had oil and coolant in mixing, mixing. And so he thought it was the oil cooler, spent a whole ton of money to get that oil cooler swapped out. And he just emailed me yesterday and said, oil and coolant is all mixed up again. Oh

Aaron (42m 49s):


Holman (42m 50s):

No. So Rich, if you’re listening to this, what’s our, what’s our man arod here say about that. And he has a head studs. He does have a P head studs. He has the, the head gas. He didn’t think it was a head gasket issue. He spent so much money on that truck too. Yeah.

Aaron (43m 8s):

Oh yeah. It sucks man. So where you would be much better suited in Lua duty, I can, you know, get you dialed in. There’s so much more, more reliable. I I love the, I love the platform, but nothing really good to say about the six four i thermostat suck,

Holman (43m 27s):

By the way, did you hear that? Did you hear the six four crowd? Listen,

Aaron (43m 33s):

I was gonna say what? I didn’t hear nothing. Oh, yep. We had two thermostats and had two turbos, two EGR coolers and we still have two radiators, but it was, you know, we got two of this and two of this and two of this and two of this like this. What, this is not necessary or

Holman (43m 50s):

Shouldn’t be,

Aaron (43m 51s):

You know, it, it was very similar to the six four with just more emission stuff on it and a different turbo and it’s really all, that’s why the six oh didn’t last. Although it was in the econo line till 2010 because the eco line didn’t meet the mission standards of the F series. So you know, although they stopped in oh seven, we still, you know, had those, we didn’t have no six four s in the e-series and then, you know, there was nothing else. Six four was short-lived. Oh 8 0 9 10. And then that was the kibosh on that still had, you know, bed plate like the six, oh you know, the heads were a little different to, you know, have the high pressure fuel injector and everything.

Aaron (44m 39s):

But I mean it was very similar much rather have a 6 0 6 is my second. So

Holman (44m 44s):

You’d rather have a six oh bullet proofed than have a six four with anything done to it or not.

Aaron (44m 50s):

I would rather have a plain Jane six. Oh old man Tuckett had it and it’s got 110,000 miles on it and it’s unscathed.

Holman (45m 1s):


Aaron (45m 1s):

Sign me up buddy.

Holman (45m 3s):


Aaron (45m 3s):

Mean, sign me up buddy.

Holman (45m 4s):

That’s not what I was expecting to hear. I, I have always heard lots of hate for the six oh and not for the six four and I, you’re turning my world upside down right now.

Aaron (45m 13s):

I grew up on ’em, I know them damn things like the back of my hand. Amazing. They made me mad. They made me a lot of money, but they made me mad and I I I learned on them sons of bitches and it just, I mean I thought I, I liked them and then the six seven came along and blew me out of the water. Like wow, we got a Norma hood. Wow.

Holman (45m 40s):

All right. So six, seven Illumina duty, first generation.

Aaron (45m 44s):

Nope. Steel body

Holman (45m 45s):

Started. That’s right, you’re right. 2011, right? Yep. Yep. All right. So steel body, steel body, six, seven. So what is, what have we learned?

Aaron (45m 54s):

We have a high pressure fuel system now that’s on the outside so we can see all the lines, we can see that we don’t have to take the valve covers off to get the injectors no more. Oh my god. That was like, wow. No way. So that was really cool. E r cooler now is on top of the passenger valve cover. So that was kind of weird to get used to. That’s 11, 12, 13, 14. Everything stayed the same. Interior changed in 13, got kind of a more boom nose dash and body stayed the same 15 got a turbo upgrade.

Aaron (46m 34s):

If you’re getting a steel bodied, I’d say try to get a 1516. Those are some really, really good trucks. You can tell when you’re working on them. It’s preparing you for 17 because some sixteens you’ll work on have the same intake and turbo as a 17 and then that’s in Illumina duty cause it’s a seal body. So you’ll see the subtle changes with the lines and the connectors and still a six, seven injectors in the same spot. Turbo in the same spot. You know, 14, 15, we got a turbo chain. So you’re like, oh man, why is this tighter? Ah, damnit, they put a different turbo on this.

Aaron (47m 14s):

Like they don’t tell us they’re changing this. You’re just finding this out as you go along. By

Holman (47m 17s):

The way, Ford is one of the worst manufacturers when it comes to incremental changes. It might be Wednesday, an idle Wednesday and all of a sudden halfway through the shift there’s new parts going on and nobody knows about it except for the one dude who went, ah, change it, it, these are all superseded.

Lightning (47m 31s):

Good luck. And so are you, do you have blends of years where there might be, you’re watching like in between 16 and 17, were you watching those parts blend in between those years or was there a distinct like, all right, here come the new trucks.

Aaron (47m 49s):

Aluminum duty was the start of stuff because like the cak tube changed the charger cooler, cold side charger, cooler duct change. Would

Holman (47m 55s):

You call it a low hanging cack?

Aaron (47m 58s):

A low hanging cac? Minus, minus any fruits in the basket. But there’s the hot side changed and air filter changed. So engine wise appearance, those are the, the changes that you would see right off the rip. You know, they don’t, like I said, they don’t tell you what they change. It was just something you adapted to.

Lightning (48m 22s):

But as a mechanic, how are you not informed on what is

Holman (48m 25s):

Being, that’s what I’m saying. Ford is horrible about that. They just make changes and you’ll go to a truck that you’ve been changing the same part and all of a sudden parts department gives you some new part and you’re like, what the hell is this? And then you’d have to figure it out that they’ve superseded some part in the catalog. And

Lightning (48m 40s):

So, so no bulletin accompanies the new parts?

Aaron (48m 43s):


Holman (48m 43s):

If there’s a bulletin from Ford, every time they changed a fastener or a screw or a part, they would kill the equivalent of like four Amazon force a year.

Aaron (48m 53s):

They’re gonna need to do something with this 23 because it is gonna be next level. S H I T caps. Underline, italicized, old. It is. I mean I, I hope they have some sort of training or coffee table book where they’re gonna be like, you guys need to read this.

Lightning (49m 13s):

Well, so you go, well let’s get, let’s get there. So you go from 17 is a major milestone to 19 and then, right, and then 20 to current was

Aaron (49m 24s):

20 twin. Twin

Lightning (49m 25s):

2020 new. And then 23 is where they’re gonna mess with a lot of people with the electronics, right?

Aaron (49m 33s):

Networks can networks over the air updates, connectivity,

Holman (49m 38s):

It’s the same stuff that’s screwing the guys with the gas engines. Same deal. Like I don’t even think Whipple has a 22 or 23 supercharger for the five liter for example, because of that.

Aaron (49m 50s):

It’s all programming. All programming. So what do you, you don’t have the security key and this with the scan tool and communicating to the server and this, this and this,

Lightning (50m 2s):

That opens up questions about what will the mechanics do, what does the end user

Holman (50m 8s):

Do? And the future of tuning. What happens when you have a tune and the over the air update overnight completely breaks your vehicle?

Aaron (50m 15s):

I don’t think that’s gonna be available, to be quite honest. It’s the data link going through the wiring diagram that I, from what I can see, is not connected to the network. We have ethernet cable connectors under the dash that are all color coded. And for instance, if you want to talk to the apm, you have to hook up to the magenta. If you want to talk to the pcm, you gotta hook up to the blue. And that means we’re gonna have to have a different kind of vehicle communication module or an adapter to what we already have. So it’s gonna be next level.

Lightning (50m 55s):


Aaron (50m 56s):

Let’s 20.

Lightning (50m 56s):

What, let’s, what do you, let’s explain the difference between, you can tune every six, seven, from 11 to 21, is that correct? Or up to 22?

Holman (51m 9s):

21, I believe.

Lightning (51m 10s):


Aaron (51m 11s):

I don’t know.

Holman (51m 12s):

Okay. Good. Good answer.

Lightning (51m 14s):

I I, okay. But the 23, we know that it’s gonna be as hardened as Ford has ever been, the

Holman (51m 21s):

Pentagon level encryption. And

Lightning (51m 24s):

I know the F 50, the year range that I know that because

Holman (51m 27s):

Whipple, it’s 22 in the F-150, right?

Lightning (51m 28s):

21 is the last year that Whipple has a

Holman (51m 30s):

Super 22 in the F-150. Where ota, I don’t know, I know GM’s going to global b I don’t know if Ford’s new architecture is global B, but everybody’s starting to switch to that new architecture with over the air updates and all that getting fun stuff.

Aaron (51m 44s):

I’m worried about somebody Kraken, the security for this avenue of vehicle communication. Because when you have that level of ability to change the software, and you just mentioned it, you could brick this come out, you know, something changed and now your a APIs brick, your PCMs brick breakthrough TCMs break. You don’t have to necessarily change the software. If you had some, you know, Trojan horse, you know, galloping through the powerful world of the internet, and some dude’s gonna be malicious. What’s stopping him from uploading some type of malicious software into these vehicles, taking out hundreds of thousands of vehicles that are all connected to this one?

Aaron (52m 31s):

What are they do? I don’t know. Cause I, I, I have, I don’t, I don’t know. Like, what are they doing to combat some type of security? Are we gonna have a, this new type of gateway module that, you know, it’s gotta have, you know, this latch turn this way and this latch turn this way. And then you open up this door and use this key and turn it upside down to, you know, there’s gonna be the sequence of events that’s gonna have to happen between module to module handshake and Well,

Lightning (52m 55s):

Isn’t Aaron, isn’t that what happened with the ram? With Ram at one point and all the, all the Dodge Lanis vehicles, they have a security gateway module. And that went in because somebody hacked into a Chrysler slash FCA slash STIs product. And the guys were able to remotely control a vehicle from the other side of

Holman (53m 17s):

The planet. Well, elements of the vehicle elements. And it wasn’t like they were malicious hackers, they were proving a theory on something

Lightning (53m 23s):

Wasn’t like they, but it could not took

Holman (53m 24s):

Over something. It was, but just like with most, you know, black hat or whatever, you know, cyber, you know, contest and things like that, it’s, they’re proving a theory in the real world. There’s a lot of other variables that would make it very difficult. But they were showing that it’s technically possible how easy it would be is something else. But yes, that’s, that it was, it was elements of the vehicle. It’s not like they targeted a, a housewife in Richmond, Virginia and all of a sudden steered her into a, you know, ditch ditch or something like that. It wasn’t like that.

Lightning (53m 54s):

Where do you, where do you stand on this topic? I mean, are you just going off off the ride or

Aaron (53m 57s):

What? Yeah, I mean, there’s nothing I’m gonna be able to do as a, as a worker bee. It’s just, it’s getting too much connectivity. And you started to really see that with 20 and 20 platforms, because we all got these, you know, TCUs, these tele telecommunication units and it’s, you know, everybody wants their forward pass and wants to use your key and wants to remote start from their phone. Well that all has to happen via networks, via modules. And you know, it’s just scary when you think about it. You know,

Lightning (54m 35s):

Powerstroke Tech talk with Arod. Who are the guests that you have on with you? Because it’s not just you going solo.

Aaron (54m 41s):

Yeah, it’s my crew CP Garage. He’s a for tech from the Florida area, like mid Florida area. We have beard for tech. He’s a for tech in North Carolina. Fort Boss, he is a for tech in Chicago. We have, I love ds, we have DS truck. He’s like an hour away from me here in Detroit. And we have another guy, diesel tech. Chris,

Holman (55m 13s):

Where else can you go where you can have diesel techs from all over, literally all over the country who can experience everything from hot weather to cold weather, to agricultural use to RV use to daily driver. I mean, I region power stroke. That’s what I’m saying. I mean that, that’s an incredible lineup of people and such a vast amount of experience because they’re hitting it. The customers where they use their trucks and how differently they use their trucks. I think that’s pretty awesome.

Aaron (55m 40s):

What we’ve been able to create is a network literally now from coast to coast of people. You know, I get asked, oh, you’re in Detroit. Oh man, do you know anybody in Utah? Well, I have somebody in Washington. Oh, well that’s like four hours away from me. Well, do you wanna drive 16 hours to Detroit Drive? Four hours to wa? So I’ve been able to network people to approve quote unquote approved technicians that I’ve, you know, spoke to or have been on my show or I know their work ethic or, so

Holman (56m 11s):

Do you have people who will call you and say, or not even call you? Do you have people who show up at your dealership asking and say, I only want this guy working on my vehicle? Or any of your, your, you know, co-hosts. Same thing?

Aaron (56m 22s):

Most definitely. Most definitely. Yeah. We got people coming from all over the United States to, you know, get bank stuff installed or to get warranty work done. And it’s been been cool to have people come from afar. What

Lightning (56m 38s):

Do you think about that bank stuff?

Aaron (56m 40s):

It, it, Hey, it’s good. <unk> And I had a competitor’s products on my truck and this was the first contact with Jay and he’s like, yo, a Rod, you want to try a bank’s air filter? I’m like, well, well <unk> I mean, I want to try something that is good and if it goes on my truck, then people are gonna want it. So the video, when I did it, I pulled this sucker out of the box and I’m like, that’s why they call it the big ass air filter. God damn. Whoa. Okay. So it was a, a repeat install after, after, after, after install.

Aaron (57m 21s):

People just keep coming and coming. You know, if it’s not the banks diff cover, it’s the pedal monster. We got Rainman hooked up on the pedal monster. That is

Lightning (57m 28s):

Dude. And by the way, that guy is Rainman Ray out Florida. He is Hell yeah. Amazing to watch because he’s from Florida. Yeah. Damn.

Aaron (57m 37s):

He’s on, on the, on the livestream on Wednesday as well.

Lightning (57m 39s):

He, he is entertaining. You gotta gotta check out Rainman Ray’s, repairs absolutely. On, on, on the YouTube. Rain Man Rays, repairs. He’s an interesting character and really sharp. Like really?

Aaron (57m 52s):


Lightning (57m 52s):

If you just watch one video, you might think, hey, this kind of guy’s kind of interesting and just, it’s like a vlog style. It’s whatever’s happening at that day. Like he might be working on a Subaru and

Aaron (58m 1s):

Then like it’s all makes and models,

Lightning (58m 2s):

It’s everything. Right? But then, but he is really sharp as nails. So

Aaron (58m 8s):

We had fun, we had fun down there.

Lightning (58m 10s):

And you’re doing this every Wednesday and it goes, it’s live Wednesday night.

Aaron (58m 14s):

Yep. Okay. Yep. Everybody asks questions and you know, people will, we’ll talk about recalls and people will chime in with their VIN numbers or email me, you know, on the show or email, you know, people on the show there’ve VIN numbers and we have, you know, the Ford database. So kind of we will respond back to, Hey, you know, we got recall, blah, blah, blah. And it’s just, it’s, we just talk about trucks just like we’re doing Now,

Lightning (58m 34s):

Another reason why I like Arod is that his two most recent videos are about strobe lights. Oh God, here we go. Love you have no idea how much I love strobe lights.

Aaron (58m 46s):

Ah, yeah. Limitless is a killer. He’s another great distributor we’ve worked with and people come from all over to have me work on their stuff, right. Because they like the work I do. And then I went and saw him to heaven work on my truck and I’m like, God damn dude, Jordan next to level, bro, I’m blown away. He’s got it going on. He’s in Philly. His links are all in my channel, all in my description. Limitless autoworks llc.com.

Lightning (59m 15s):

Gotcha. Okay.

Aaron (59m 17s):

Freaking awesome.

Lightning (59m 18s):

You’ve also got a Facebook channel, correct? Also, Powerstroke Tech talk with Arod. Yep,

Aaron (59m 23s):

Yep. Or Aaron Powerstroke. Yeah, we got the, the old Facebook, Instagram, and you know, YouTube is my heavy hitter. I, you know, really try to focus on this. Just trying to all those other social media is kind of a distraction at times. But we, we like putting good content out, like using, you know, quality parts on our, on our super duties and tell the community about ’em so they can make informed decisions on how to spend their benjamins. And they like to spend the Benjamins. They do. That’s right. I just want ’em do it. Right.

Lightning (59m 55s):

They do. Awesome. My last question, the sliding, you’re not allowed to have another power stroke, but you’ve won the lottery and you can buy any other new truck. What, what is it? You cannot have a Ford. Ford.

Aaron (1h 0m 12s):

Ooh, okay. I already,

Lightning (1h 0m 13s):

What’s choice number two? Tahoe.

Aaron (1h 0m 14s):


Lightning (1h 0m 15s):

Who’s got a Tahoe?

Holman (1h 0m 17s):

Yeah, but that’s gotta who knows why you bought it. I wanted to see this is, this is the aspirational. Okay.

Lightning (1h 0m 22s):

I need to hit this.

Holman (1h 0m 23s):

Money is no object.

Lightning (1h 0m 24s):

And the answer

Holman (1h 0m 25s):

Is one other vehicle that you can add to your one other truck you can add to your, to your garage or your shop.

Aaron (1h 0m 31s):


Holman (1h 0m 32s):

Can’t be a Ford.

Aaron (1h 0m 33s):

I, I’d like some all-wheel drive. I don’t know what I would like all-wheel drive.

Lightning (1h 0m 37s):

You have to choose one.

Aaron (1h 0m 38s):

Like one of them Big boy Audis.

Holman (1h 0m 39s):

Yeah, there you go. Oh,

Aaron (1h 0m 41s):

I like them big boy Audis. Okay.

Lightning (1h 0m 43s):

They go like RS Q eight or whatever it

Aaron (1h 0m 45s):

Is. Like the long, the long wheel base ones. Oh, they were just one The transporter drove. Yeah.

Holman (1h 0m 50s):

You, you wanna pull up to Detroit Pistons game and have them think you’re the talent on the field. On the,

Aaron (1h 0m 55s):

On the

Holman (1h 0m 57s):

Right on dude. Well Audi, hey. Thank you. Thanks for coming on because this is one of those topics that I think is super controversial. Is anything powerstroke because there’s so many people have ’em and there’s so many products and there’s so many opinions out there. It’s awesome to be able to point our listeners to a qualified resource that might set ’em straight. Do

Lightning (1h 1m 16s):

You think people just love the one that they have because they’re familiar with No,

Holman (1h 1m 20s):

No, no. Everybody aspires to have whatever they don’t have. Unless you’re you and me and you already have your TX and your 3d.

Lightning (1h 1m 26s):

I don’t know, dude. I think, I think people just love what they have, even if it’s bad. No, they defend it. No, no, no, no. Six four is best one ever.

Holman (1h 1m 34s):

Nope. That’s because it’s what they have

Aaron (1h 1m 36s):

Knowing’s half the battle. And if you know about what you have,

Holman (1h 1m 40s):

You appreciate it a little bit more.

Aaron (1h 1m 42s):

Yeah, I mean that’s why we got playlists. I got playlists for the seven. Threes The six. Oh, the six fours. The six sevens. The four point fives. The three twos. You want it? You got it. We got it. All the four power strokes, baby. Awesome. I love them.

Lightning (1h 1m 55s):

Power stroke tech talk with Arod. Aaron Rodriguez, you’re the man. Thank you for carving out some time for us.

Aaron (1h 2m 1s):

Appreciate you.

Holman (1h 2m 2s):

All right, brother. Talk to you soon. You

Aaron (1h 2m 4s):

Got it. See you.

Holman (1h 2m 5s):

Bye-Bye. You just gave me this monster. Yeah. Energy zero Ultra. I, you know, I hate this stuff. Yeah,

Lightning (1h 2m 13s):

You’re not a Monster fan. No,

Holman (1h 2m 15s):

This isn’t

Lightning (1h 2m 15s):

Bad for me. That’s how sugar, free sugar.

Holman (1h 2m 16s):

Yeah. It tastes like tangerines.

Lightning (1h 2m 19s):

Little bit of tangerine in this one. Yeah, it’s the, it’s the only white can I’m, I believe, I mean it’s okay in a series of monster

Holman (1h 2m 25s):

Energy drinks. I’m not, I’m not living off of it. But I mean, if, if it’s there, oh wait, that’s right. Now I’m drinking it.

Lightning (1h 2m 31s):

Yes you

Holman (1h 2m 31s):

Are. All right. Well this is my pickup to get through the rest of the show. Cause we got so much news.

11 (1h 2m 36s):

What you in Travis trucks?

12 (1h 2m 38s):

We need to

11 (1h 2m 39s):

Know what’s new in trucks.

12 (1h 2m 41s):

We need to know

11 (1h 2m 43s):

What’s new in trucks.

12 (1h 2m 44s):

We need to know

6 (1h 2m 46s):

Lifted, lowered and everything in between. What’s happening in the world of trucks.

Holman (1h 2m 54s):

That might have been the best one

Lightning (1h 2m 56s):

Of this year of 2023.

Holman (1h 2m 59s):

Hey lightning, did you hear?

Lightning (1h 3m 1s):

No. Nope.

Holman (1h 3m 3s):

So rubber has it that the cyber truck will have very limited production in the end of 2023, but

Lightning (1h 3m 13s):

Looks like, well that include the one that lightning put a deposit off. I

Holman (1h 3m 16s):

Highly doubt it looks like it’s been pushed back in earnest till 2024 though.

Lightning (1h 3m 21s):

Hmm. Is that because they can’t bend the stainless steel? The

Holman (1h 3m 25s):

The stainless steel that I made them use?

Lightning (1h 3m 27s):

Yes. Oh,

Holman (1h 3m 27s):

Wait, what? I don’t think we’ve ever, I I, because I think we cut it out. Cause I didn’t think, my NDA doesn’t allow me to say more. Well, let’s, there’s a backstory there. Who

Lightning (1h 3m 34s):

Cares? You don’t work for the same company anymore.

Holman (1h 3m 36s):

The N d I have with that particular company is not a company I worked for. It’s NDA have in perpetuity. Oh, you personally? Yeah, they will come after me.

Lightning (1h 3m 44s):

Sean Holman. Oh yeah. So wait a minute. You just alluded to the fact that they weren’t gonna do it outta stainless until you

Holman (1h 3m 49s):

No, they already, they already said it was gonna be titanium and then it wasn’t. And then I might have, I’m just going, let’s just move on.

Lightning (1h 3m 55s):

Wait, wait. No, this could be huge. No, that’s a news story that could put us on the map. No cyber truck No. Was going to be titanium until

Holman (1h 4m 4s):

Sean Bowman. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. What part of NDA don’t you understand all

Lightning (1h 4m 10s):

Of it. Oh, oh, the whole part of it where it says non-disclosure agreement

Holman (1h 4m 15s):

Anyway. So some say

Lightning (1h 4m 18s):

Who’s the sum people,

Holman (1h 4m 20s):

Okay, say all right. That it might even might not even be till mid 2024. I mean, Elon in the earnings call said mass production until 2024. But then there’s a, there’s a investor who says it’ll be a certain amount like 10,000 before the end of this year. So we’ll see. I don’t know. Oh, it’d be interesting.

Lightning (1h 4m 41s):

These are being produced in Texas, is that correct?

Holman (1h 4m 44s):

I don’t actually

Lightning (1h 4m 45s):

Know. Is that where

Holman (1h 4m 45s):

The, the,

Lightning (1h 4m 46s):

I tell you, steel is being stamped.

Holman (1h 4m 47s):

The the idea of a stainless steel vehicle is because they don’t need a paint shop. So the most expensive part of manufacturing is your paint shop. So if you don’t have to paint ’em, you save a bunch on

Lightning (1h 4m 56s):

Costco, which cracks me up. When you see a painted DeLorean, there aren’t many, but there are some,

Holman (1h 4m 59s):

Some Well, there are or wrapped. Yeah. There’ll be plenty of rap cyber trucks guaranteed. There’ll be all sorts

Lightning (1h 5m 4s):

Of people. Yeah. That’s stupid. Stupid. Why would you wrap a, a stainless steel truck?

Holman (1h 5m 10s):

I mean, because you’re,

Lightning (1h 5m 11s):

Because it looks awesome over Now who’s going to do, cuz they’re brushed, right? Who’s gonna mirror finish one? That’ll be illegal. Like crazy

Holman (1h 5m 19s):

Illegal. Why would that

Lightning (1h 5m 20s):

Be illegal? Because there’s a mirror. You can’t drive a mirror down the

Holman (1h 5m 23s):

Street. Sure. Why, why not? There’s mirrors

Lightning (1h 5m 25s):

Mirror wraps, but you can, can’t you get cited for them? Am I just making that up?

Holman (1h 5m 30s):

Why? It’s

Lightning (1h 5m 31s):

Because if, if construction

Holman (1h 5m 33s):

Podcast audience, if one thing is clear, do not take legal advice from lightning ever. Why

Lightning (1h 5m 38s):

Ever wait a minute? Because he makes stuff up. If you are, if you are reflecting,

Holman (1h 5m 43s):

How many times do you and I have a conversation? Just not even on the air, just you and me talking. Yeah. And you will make a hard stand for a point of view and I’ll look at you and I’ll go, but you don’t even know if that’s true. And you’re like, yeah, I don’t. No, I don’t. And if you see the point immediately,

Lightning (1h 5m 57s):

I don’t know, somewhere

Holman (1h 5m 57s):

In your mind you’ve decided that

Lightning (1h 5m 59s):

It’s the truth. I have no, no, I’m not saying it’s the truth. I’m saying I, I feel like I, I need to have a conversation about this and I have to take a stand in order to have a conversation about it. Oh my God.

Holman (1h 6m 10s):

Oh, did you hear?

13 (1h 6m 13s):

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Lightning (1h 6m 15s):

No. I didn’t. I don’t think so.

Holman (1h 6m 17s):

For all of you mid-sized truck fans, the next generation Ford ranger will start us production in July.

Lightning (1h 6m 23s):

That’s good news. So

Holman (1h 6m 24s):

That’s pretty exciting. And Ford has been teasing on social media, some Ranger Raptor stuff

Lightning (1h 6m 30s):

Lately. I’ve seen those. Man, is that a good-looking truck?

Holman (1h 6m 32s):

It is a good looking truck. Yeah. It, it looks, although the

Lightning (1h 6m 36s):

Wheel wells, they carved it out much, much higher. Right.

Holman (1h 6m 39s):

It looks like it’s on 30 threes. It might be on 30 fives, but I think it’s on 30 threes hard to tell. But there’s been some spy photos recently of the new bison edition of the Colorado Canyon. Holy Mother of all mid fries trucks. That’s awesome. It is like, okay, I, so I built a long travel ranger four by four back in the day

Lightning (1h 7m 2s):

Raptor. I’m not, I’m not familiar with that story.

Holman (1h 7m 4s):

And I, I love that space and I see the Ranger raptor and I’m like, yeah, like if this was me 15 years ago, if the FX four that I had could have been the range, the first gen Ranger Raptor. Totally. Awesome. And then I see a spy photo of the bison edition. I’m gonna try and pull it

Lightning (1h 7m 29s):

Up here. The Colorado

Holman (1h 7m 30s):

Of the Colorado. And I want you to see this because

Lightning (1h 7m 33s):

I have not seen this before. So flip your laptop around. Oh my God. Like how wide that

Holman (1h 7m 41s):

Is. You’ll be able to buy that from the factory. That looks like 30 fives on that platform. Look

Lightning (1h 7m 45s):

At the fenders. It’s almost dually wide. I

Holman (1h 7m 49s):

Don’t if it’s duly wide. No mid size. It’s got bulging fenders and big ass tires and it looks really

Lightning (1h 7m 55s):

Good. It’s the, yeah, so

Holman (1h 7m 56s):

If anything we can say here is that the Colorado Z R two and the Ranger Raptor are Chevy Ford Wars. Man, I can’t wait. Cuz there is some epicly cool stuff coming out from the American manufacturers in mid-size trucks that are on the top, you know, the upper echelon of off-road performance. Yep. And it was an area previously reserved for the full size trucks. And I gotta tell you, I’ve I tingle in my other regions for sounds gross. What’s about to come? Please don’t tingle. Wait a minute. Hey lady, did you hear?

14 (1h 8m 28s):

No, no, no.

Holman (1h 8m 31s):

Nope, nope, nope. I don’t think so. According to the drive in GM authority, there’s a person who owns a 2023 Escalade V, which as we know, is the hotted up Cadillac Escalade supercharged. Does it not? It is. Okay. And apparently the manufacturer has some sort of agreement when you buy that, that you won’t resell it or flip it within X amount of time. Really? Now, there have been court cases over time, the legality of this agreement and things like that, famously John Sena and the Ford GT would, would come to mind anyway. This guy did not flip it. He just refinanced it. And if you have ever refinanced a house, you may not know it is actually possible to refinance a car.

Holman (1h 9m 15s):

I’ve done it in the past where you start with a higher interest rate and the interest rates come down, you can actually go back to your bank and say, I’d like to refinance it for a lower interest rate. It’s not all that uncommon. And then stretch out the payments potentially even longer. Right? Well, I mean, not even stretch out payments, maybe just same period of time, but you just want lower payments. Gotcha. Or I mean, or you can start over. Maybe you had a four year loan to start over as five year loan. Sure. The point of the story is apparently a owner of these, of one of these Escalade vs. Took it in for warranty work and was told, I’m sorry sir, your warranty has been blocked. Why? Why, why, why, why? Because he refinances Escalade V in GM apparently interpreted it as the refinance being a ownership change, therefore flagging him as a flipper and voiding his warranty.

Holman (1h 10m 6s):

Holy crap. Apparently he and his lawyers are trying to work it out with gm, but they haven’t heard anything back yet. As of a few days ago when the story posted, it’s insane. He’s still the owner. He’s the owner. And for No, he’s so owner. Literally, he did nothing other than went to the bank and say, Hey, I’d like to lower payment. I mean, I get it. And GM avoided his warranty that just flipped something in their database. He didn’t I get it, I understand that. But don’t you think they should be jumping on this right away and being like, oh, well we wronged you. Sorry about that. How can you go? And then now whatever the warranty complaint was, he’s on the hook for those costs for his new $130,000 suv. Yeah. And GM just completely pull. I mean, come on.

16 (1h 10m 45s):

That ain’t true. That’s not true. So get your facts straight.

Holman (1h 10m 51s):

Well, I got my facts straight. And by the way, apparently there’s two other General Motors models that have similar six month sales protections. That would be the 2023 Chevy Corvette zero six and the GMC Hummer ev. So be very careful sales. You called it sales protection because they don’t want you flipping it. I get it. And making money. I didn’t know there was a term sales. I I mean, that’s what the article says. So, huh. Anyway, I just think it’s kind of a bunch of bunk. Yeah. Is bunk right? Is that

Lightning (1h 11m 18s):

The right word? I think it’s, yeah. You know, I, I have a question for gm.

Holman (1h 11m 22s):

What the hell is wrong with you? Well, I mean, maybe that’s a little harsh. Maybe by the next week’s episode we will find out that they gave the owner a hug and restored his, did the right thing and restored his warranty. There all is right with the world. I’m just saying that that’s one of those things where you’re like, dude, coming. Seriously, that’s kind of not super cool. Hey, lighting, did you hear?

Lightning (1h 11m 43s):

No. No, I don’t think so. All right. Well,

Holman (1h 11m 45s):

While we’re on the, the topic of the Escalade, the 2023 Cadillac Escalade from Hennessy, we’ll make 650 horsepower and complete the quarter mile 13.5 seconds. So if you, if you can’t afford the V, that might be a, a good, good option for you.

Lightning (1h 12m 3s):

I can’t afford the v I mean, come on now, making these truck show podcast dollars. You know what I’m saying?

Holman (1h 12m 8s):

Not yet. I don’t, no,

Lightning (1h 12m 9s):


Holman (1h 12m 9s):

Do I. Hey, lighting. Did you hear?

Lightning (1h 12m 11s):

What? No. Nope. I don’t think so.

Holman (1h 12m 16s):

Interesting study has shown that the pickup truck segment is losing market share in the United States to SUVs. And that the what truck segments? Market shares, actually it’s lowest points hold on. And it, and it reports that the truck segment’s market share is now at its lowest point in almost a decade. So that’s sad. People stop buying all these SUVs. Go get back in your trucks. Oh wait, I bought an suv. Nevermind.

Lightning (1h 12m 43s):

Wow. Doesn’t seem seem right. Yeah.

Holman (1h 12m 46s):


Lightning (1h 12m 47s):

I, well, so what’s the number one SUV right now? It’s, oh, we said it was a Tahoe, didn’t we like, like two episodes ago? Yeah,

Holman (1h 12m 52s):

Yeah, yeah. I’m not, I’m not sad for buying my suv, by the way, the same Hey lighting, did you hear?

Lightning (1h 12m 59s):


17 (1h 12m 60s):

No, no, no,

Lightning (1h 13m 1s):

No. Nope.

Holman (1h 13m 3s):

You’ll, you’ll love this story as will all of our listeners. Apparently GM is currently investing 854 million into, can you guess what?

Lightning (1h 13m 16s):

854 million into hybrid technology?

Holman (1h 13m 24s):


Lightning (1h 13m 26s):

Jet propulsion.

Holman (1h 13m 28s):

How about a new sixth generation small block v8? Listen, while it seems like every other manufacturer is walking away from V8 s whether it’s Lanis, whether it’s the Germans, whether it’s Ford and some products, GM says, Nope. According to Jalopnik, this is how it’s going to break down. GM’s investing 579 million to prepare the Flint engine operations. The Flint engine plant to assemble GM six generation family of small block V8 s It’s responsible for block crank shaft head machining work at the facility will begin immediately and Flint will continue building the three liter turbo diesel straight six during the facility updates.

Holman (1h 14m 15s):

Also investing 216 million to prepare the base city GPS in Michigan to build camshaft connecting Rods. Blockhead machine support for future VA production at Flint. 55 million at the defiance operations in Ohio will be invested to prepare the facility to build a variety of block castings. In addition, the investment includes 8 million to build casting development cell to support future EV programs. And 68 million in the Rochester operations in New York. 12 million will be invested to prepare the facility to build intake manifolds and fuel rails to support the Flint facility. In addition, includes 56 million for the production of battery pack cooling for the EV programs.

Holman (1h 14m 56s):

But at the end of the day, I think this is incredible news, GM has said, Hey, we’re not walking away from ICE and pickup trucks. We know what our customers want. We know what the, what the future is for, for this platform. And I think that’s an admission that, that EV is, is not the only option out there. So kudos to General Motors because I think it’s pretty exciting that they’re going to be investing in a sixth generation small block. V8

18 (1h 15m 28s):

Thank, thank you.

Holman (1h 15m 32s):

Thank you. General Motors? Hey lighting. Did you hear?

19 (1h 15m 36s):

No, no, no, no, no, no,

Holman (1h 15m 38s):

No. Apparently last week, the 2024 Toyota Tacoma design was revealed in Brazilian patent docs. Several new sites carried the, the images. It’s a C G I image of the next generation Tacoma. And it looks exactly like a Tacoma. It looks as if they took the current tundra in the current Tacoma and merged them together. And whatever you think in your mind of what it should look like is exactly what it looks like. So I think it’s our early look at the next generation pickup that’s due later this year. And I think if you’re a Tacoma fan who is a little bit jealous that the tundra got its update, you’ll be very pleasantly surprised with, with what the new truck’s design looks like.

Holman (1h 16m 23s):

So I think that’s gonna be pretty cool. And again, man, that that mid-sized market’s starting to heat up. You gotta love it. Hey lighting, did you hear, I mean now, now there’s a Ford F-150 Raptor R running around with camo. Apparently the mid-cycle refresh is coming up already for the F-150 and that will include the 700 horsepower Raptor R. So everybody’s getting a little bit of a, a fresh little tweak in the F-150 lineup. And that would mean that the new Raptor R is not going away. It’ll be here at least for a little while longer, which I think is phenomenal because that truck seems awesome.

Holman (1h 17m 4s):

I’ve had literally 450,000 people ask me in the last month, have you driven the Raptor? R And I have not. And I feel empty inside for it else. Haven’t driven a Bronco R

Lightning (1h 17m 16s):

Yeah. You need to get behind the wheel of some of these things.

Holman (1h 17m 18s):

Yeah. Or doesn’t like me anymore.

Lightning (1h 17m 19s):

You’re gonna have to call up a friend Jerry can and take his off.

Holman (1h 17m 22s):

Take his for, he just had a 50th birthday party. I saw that Graham go fast. Campers texted me the other night and like, was he there up? He texted me, he says, Hey dude, are you going to Jerry’s party? And I said, what party? He says, you know, Jerry’s 50th. He go, yeah. Wasn’t invited, so No. Yeah,

Lightning (1h 17m 36s):

Yeah. Neither me. Apparently we’re not tight. We’re not tight. Although Jerry did say he’ll be on our podcast

Holman (1h 17m 40s):

Again. Again. Maybe,

Lightning (1h 17m 42s):

Maybe we’ll boycott him.

Holman (1h 17m 44s):

Maybe I’ll invite him to the podcast. Oh wait, no, I won’t.

Lightning (1h 17m 48s):

Homan. Did you hear?

Holman (1h 17m 49s):

Wait, I thought we were, do you have one?

Lightning (1h 17m 53s):

I think so. Okay.

Holman (1h 17m 54s):

It’s short. All right.

Lightning (1h 17m 55s):

At the recent Barrett Jackson automobile auction in Scottsdale, Arizona.

Holman (1h 18m 0s):

Are you Tell me about the accident.

Lightning (1h 18m 2s):

No, I wasn’t. I don’t know about the accident. Oh, I was going to tell you about the

Holman (1h 18m 6s):

America’s Most Wanted four by four demon gladiator that sold for $215,000.

Lightning (1h 18m 12s):

No, I was gonna tell you about the 2022 Ram 1500 TX pickup ignition edition with 91 miles on it. That sold for $170,000.

Holman (1h 18m 24s):

Wow. That is, that’s

Lightning (1h 18m 26s):


Holman (1h 18m 27s):


Lightning (1h 18m 27s):

Bought that and why? I

Holman (1h 18m 29s):

I Is it stupid though?

Lightning (1h 18m 30s):

It’s not stupid. If you got that kind ched up. Yeah, it was,

Holman (1h 18m 33s):

Maybe it’s for charity.

Lightning (1h 18m 34s):

Nope. Wasn’t for charity. Oh. Just to confirmed that it was not for charity

Holman (1h 18m 38s):

Because somebody actually asked.

Lightning (1h 18m 40s):

Yes. There’s an entire thread on my Ram TX group. Two guys were there in the thread and they said we were there watching it go down. It was not for charity. Hmm. Hundred and 70 grand. One of 875 built in that bright orange color.

Holman (1h 18m 55s):

All right. Well the America’s most wanted high velocity colored gladiator with the, I think I had a bed bob on it in like forties or 40 twos and had the 840 horsepower engine swap. I think it was a demonn. Yeah. 215,000 at Bear Jackson. So I was gonna tell you, there was a survivor, Shelby, I think it was a GT 500 KR from the photos. And there was a Camaro behind it. And they were in the staging lanes to go on the stage. Yeah. This was a unmolested original Shelby Mustang.

Lightning (1h 19m 25s):

Don’t tell me they bumped into each other.

Holman (1h 19m 28s):

Somebody was playing with a key fob on the Camaro. No, it was Oh, in gear. Oh no. Had remote star.

Lightning (1h 19m 32s):


Holman (1h 19m 32s):

No. And it ran into the back of the Mustang. Oh man. Man, that, that one, God, I hate to see it. It def it definitely hurts. Yeah, it was, it was through a friend of mine on, on Facebook who posted that. Okay. So I don’t know that any, I, I will see Monday morning comes, there might be some news reports, but dude, that that one, if that doesn’t hurt you, there’s something wrong with you. Hey lighting. Did you hear? How

Lightning (1h 19m 60s):

About No. Nope.

Holman (1h 20m 1s):

Our friend Jay Leno was continuing to have a bad week or a few weeks.

Lightning (1h 20m 6s):

Yeah. Our microphone was there

Holman (1h 20m 10s):


Lightning (1h 20m 11s):

He got hit. Did he get, we don’t know if he got hit. What’s the story with

Holman (1h 20m 13s):

This, with the second one? Well,

Lightning (1h 20m 15s):

You know that he went down on his motorcycle.

Holman (1h 20m 16s):

Well, so apparently he was having issues with his bike. So he cut across the parking lot that he’d been cutting across multiple times. Okay. And there was a wire strung across and he got co clothes lined off his bike. No. And apparently this

Lightning (1h 20m 28s):

Happened like, no, please told me. That didn’t

Holman (1h 20m 29s):

Happen a little while ago, but he didn’t wanna say anything cause he felt bad about how much outpouring there was for his burn. So he just didn’t say anything about

Lightning (1h 20m 35s):

It. Oh my God. Can you imagine getting clothes lined on a

Holman (1h 20m 37s):

Bike? Yeah.

Lightning (1h 20m 38s):

Oh my God. Yeah.

Holman (1h 20m 40s):


Lightning (1h 20m 42s):


Holman (1h 20m 43s):

That, I guess that happened on January 17th. He’s riding a 1940 Indian, which is an amazingly rare and beautiful and expensive motorcycle.

Lightning (1h 20m 52s):


20 (1h 20m 53s):

Don’t want to be that guy. Nobody wants to be

Lightning (1h 20m 55s):

That guy. No. No one does.

Holman (1h 20m 57s):

Yeah. And then coming right on the heels of that information, CNBC allegedly canceled Jay Leno’s garage. Which, no.

Lightning (1h 21m 5s):

Which I actually

Holman (1h 21m 6s):

Actually love that show. I think it’s great.

Lightning (1h 21m 8s):

He’s awesome. JLo’s

Holman (1h 21m 9s):

Garage. Yeah. I’ve really enjoyed it and so bad

Lightning (1h 21m 12s):

NBC bad.

Holman (1h 21m 14s):


Lightning (1h 21m 15s):

Bad boy.

Holman (1h 21m 17s):

Syd. I just hope Jay’s ear gets better, because that’s a whole lot of crappy news to

Lightning (1h 21m 23s):

Dude. And the guy does nothing but good for

Holman (1h 21m 25s):

People. I know. He’s like, the world’s just nicest guy.

Lightning (1h 21m 29s):

Only the only the good Die young.

Holman (1h 21m 30s):

Well, he’s not dead, Jay.

Lightning (1h 21m 32s):


Holman (1h 21m 33s):

Did you hear He’s also not young. No.

Lightning (1h 21m 36s):

God, please. No,

Holman (1h 21m 37s):

No. Apparently GM is playing with the idea of a small affordable electric pickup truck moving right along. Hey, lighting. Did

Lightning (1h 21m 44s):

You hear? Wait, what? What

Holman (1h 21m 46s):

The Ja mean’s, just a news bit about GM exploring a small electric pickup truck like everybody else in the world. Is that really news?

Lightning (1h 21m 53s):

No, it’s

Holman (1h 21m 54s):

Not. It’s not. All right, how about this for some news?

Lightning (1h 21m 57s):

No, wait. Nope. I didn’t hear it.

Holman (1h 21m 59s):

Somebody freaking took a wagoner and then made it into a decar rally themed like Chase vehicle.

Lightning (1h 22m 7s):


Holman (1h 22m 8s):

Freaking awesome. Look at that thing.

Lightning (1h 22m 10s):

Oh, I, I actually saw that. And that is wicked cool. Wicked cool. That is red wrapped. It’s

Holman (1h 22m 16s):


Lightning (1h 22m 17s):

White in front red in the back. And that is, that’s nice. Talk about a plush ride.

Holman (1h 22m 23s):

So basically Mo tool used the US market vehicle. Of course the North American marketing manager for Moul, Nolan Browning. Wait,

Lightning (1h 22m 32s):

I know

Holman (1h 22m 32s):

Nolan, you know Yes. That was him. Well, that was him. What? So he was asked by Motor Trend, I guess, and said, you know, why a wagoneers, what’s wrong with you? This is Decar overseas. And his response was, well, we thought about a local North American way of celebrating the ultimate off-road in George Racing Decar. And the Jeep brand came to mind. And he said, basically it was cool. We just wanted to do cool stuff. So

Lightning (1h 22m 56s):

They didn’t want to get his, his kidneys bounced around. I, and so he went with the most plush ride he could find.

Holman (1h 23m 3s):

So basically they wrapped, it’s in the, the Moto livery, which is super cool. It’s got a set of Black Rhino Wheels, 18 by eight, and a halfs wrapped in 35 by 1250 R 18 BF Goodrich train Ta K two tires, which we’re we’re big fans of. And of course they put the spare in the back and they used rig supplies, external ultra swing, multi-fit spare tire hitch mount, which also includes the Jerry Can Mount and license plate relocation kit. And check this out. The Jeep was set down to Huntington Beach, California, our, the home of our podcast Sticky Fingers designed for the design of the wrap and all that. So of course they added all of MO tools, gear oil, engine oil, and all that good stuff. Anyway, point being a lifted Wagoner on 30 fives looks rad.

Lightning (1h 23m 47s):

I hadn’t seen anyone do it until they

Holman (1h 23m 49s):

Did. Nope. I, we, I, we did a rendering at MotorTrend when I was there of a, what a Trail Hawk version might look like. And so we have a rendering that looks kind of like that, but seeing it in the flesh, kudos to you guys for doing something different. Gotta love that. Hey, lightning, did you hear?

Lightning (1h 24m 3s):

No. Nope.

Holman (1h 24m 5s):

Ford is, well, they don’t want you to buy their Bronco apparently.

Lightning (1h 24m 9s):

Oh, man, I actually did hear about

Holman (1h 24m 12s):

This one. Some customers swear

Lightning (1h 24m 13s):

They’re just throwing out Duckets, right? They’re

Holman (1h 24m 15s):


Lightning (1h 24m 15s):

Yeah, they’re wait handing out cash

Holman (1h 24m 16s):

Waiting over 900 days for their reservations Yeah. To, to show up. And Ford is paying order holders $2,500 each to go buy something else.

Lightning (1h 24m 27s):

It’s insane. Oh my gosh. Freaking insane.

Holman (1h 24m 29s):

I mean, have you ever heard of

Lightning (1h 24m 32s):

Such a thing? No. No one has that I’m aware of. I I, I’m not saying it hasn’t happened, but they’re like, sorry. So I guess there’s a bunch of options to buy something else. So

Holman (1h 24m 39s):

According to the drive.com, the first option for buyers is simply modifying their existing order. Wild Track customers are being offered $2,500 to convert to Badlands, big ban or outer banks. Whereas non-well track customers offer 2,500 bucks to remove what Ford calls constrained commodities, which is like the molded in color, hard top, the Lux and Sasquatch package. No. So

Lightning (1h 24m 57s):

The bottom line, if you

Holman (1h 24m 58s):

Do a bro, if you do a Broca, you get Sasquatch. Sorry. You just do,

Lightning (1h 24m 60s):

That’s the bottom line though, is that they just cannot deliver on those accessories. Right?

Holman (1h 25m 3s):

Yeah. Well the, it’s, there’s constrained from supply chain and stuff like that. I think they felt Bronco would be a success. I didn’t think they thought some of these niche packages would be such an unbridled success. That’s right. Pun intended.

Lightning (1h 25m 16s):


Holman (1h 25m 17s):

You like that,

Lightning (1h 25m 18s):

Don’t you? No, not

Holman (1h 25m 19s):

Really. Well, you lady, did you hear?

Lightning (1h 25m 21s):

No. Nope.

Holman (1h 25m 25s):

There’s this really amazing website that just came out. It’s called

Lightning (1h 25m 29s):

Truck show podcast.com. Oh, it’s not out. It’s not

Holman (1h 25m 32s):

Out. Damn. It’s coming though. It’s coming. I’m told. Anyway, go to car sized.com.

Lightning (1h 25m 37s):

Let me go there now. Car sized.com.

Holman (1h 25m 40s):

Basically what it is, is you can take all these different vehicles over time and you can compare them to each other to see just how different and how big they’ve grown over time. Or how big if maybe you have a current whatever and you wanna see if you’re new, whatever will fit in your garage. They overlay the images on each other so you can see exactly how long they are, how big they are, how much space they take up. It’s actually kind of cool. I’ve been playing with with it. They got,

Lightning (1h 26m 3s):

So right now I’m looking at a Nissan Juke over a Volkswagen

Holman (1h 26m 7s):

Tiguan. Oh, I was looking at a Cadillac Escalade over a Dodge Ram Rebel. Huh? It’s kind of fun.

Lightning (1h 26m 13s):

This is bizarre.

Holman (1h 26m 14s):

And it’s European stuff. There’s weird stuff. Yeah, there’s North American stuff. How about a pojo over a Morgan? I feel like

Lightning (1h 26m 21s):

This is definitely outta the uk.

Holman (1h 26m 22s):

This gotta be, how about an Austin Healy over an Excalibur kit car or Hummer over a Moscovitch or

Lightning (1h 26m 30s):

Moscovitch? Where’s this site out?

Holman (1h 26m 32s):

I don’t know, but it’s cool. Yeah. Don’t you wanna play with it?

Lightning (1h 26m 35s):

That is what she said for,

Holman (1h 26m 37s):

For sure. All I want do is compare car sizes. And you can do that@carsize.com. So go check it out. All right, one last one. A lightning. Did you hear?

Lightning (1h 26m 46s):

No. Nope.

Holman (1h 26m 48s):

Found this one over@motortread.com. Apparently Ukraine reclassified US tanks as recreational vehicles to skirt restrictions.

Lightning (1h 26m 56s):


Holman (1h 26m 57s):

So as we know, there’s a war going on in Ukraine and they’ve been asking for tanks, and I guess many politicians wanna help Ukraine, but they don’t necessarily wanna send them tanks and they don’t wanna escalate the war. And so there’s a bunch of stuff going on, blah, blah, blah. So apparently Ukrainians defense Ministry took to Twitter to pose the question, what if a tank was no longer a tank? And trying to script some restrictions by just going, Hmm, it’s not a recreational vehicle. Sure.

Lightning (1h 27m 29s):

I would love to own one as a recreational vehicle with the turret on top of.

Holman (1h 27m 33s):

So the, the actual tweet says, Western countries are so worried about sending tanks to Ukraine, and they’re arguing about what is and what isn’t a tank. So we offer our humble suggestions. So they actually did a spoof video on Twitter, and they basically said, it’s a parody reimagining an M one, A two Abrams as a recreational utility vehicle tied in that 1500 horsepower tank is being rugged, dependable, and powerful. It is like a car ad. So anyway, if you wanna follow the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, it’s at Defense U and they’ve got a funny parody video.

Lightning (1h 28m 5s):

Got it.

Holman (1h 28m 7s):

That it we’re

Lightning (1h 28m 8s):

Done? I think so. Okay. You

Holman (1h 28m 9s):

Got more. Ah, listen, we got to this show late because we weren’t sure if we were gonna have a studio. We didn’t. And we don’t, we did the show show the truck show. The truck show. The truck show. My point is that we’re recording one in two days, so, which why ruin all of our content blow out now. We will need to get it a couple days when we do next week’s show.

Lightning (1h 28m 34s):

So, yeah. I, I need sleep. I’m not firing on all cylinders right now. I’m like, Hey. I’m like, Hey, three cylinders, Citron right now. I’m just like weak at

Holman (1h 28m 42s):

Best. Except the three cylinder Citron was actually three cylinders. You’re a one cylinder citron.

Lightning (1h 28m 49s):

I can see that. Okay.

Holman (1h 28m 51s):

I can see that. Yeah. That’s like you’re saying, I’m a Ram tx firing on all eight

Lightning (1h 28m 56s):

Cylinders, but so am I The Citron that had airbags and laid out like frame out on the ground, or am I the citron that look like a glass bubble?

Holman (1h 29m 4s):

Are you a weird shaped French car? I don’t of ’em know, I would say,

Lightning (1h 29m 8s):

I don’t know what I’m saying right now. I just want to go home and curl up

Holman (1h 29m 13s):

In a, in a field. Let me, let me end the show for you because you’re falling apart at a alarming rate right now. What are you saying? Hey, I’m, I’m gonna go home and put foam on walls for many, several hours. Is that a euphemism? No. I’m actually gonna be putting foam on walls, so will I. Interesting. And I don’t have a podcast. Put yours as a euphemism. All right. Listen, if you guys wanna follow us head over to at Truck Show podcast.

Lightning (1h 29m 38s):

Truck Show podcast, we put foam on walls.

Holman (1h 29m 39s):

Well, we do when we need a new studio. So follow us. We would love for you to share with your friends.

Lightning (1h 29m 45s):

Nope, nope. Don’t follow us.

Holman (1h 29m 46s):

Very bad. We’re, we’re gonna see lots more content hopefully coming at some point soon. Once we get out of the fog, will

Lightning (1h 29m 53s):

They see it or

Holman (1h 29m 54s):

Hear it? Whatever. It’s both. We’re working on things. Listen, we’re working on YouTube channel truck show podcast.com. It’s coming. Truck show podcast gmail.com. Lightning truck show podcast.com or holeman truck show podcast.com. Send us

Lightning (1h 30m 7s):

Your email. Isn’t that weird? We have our own email addresses for once. Not that weird. It’s a

Holman (1h 30m 12s):

Little weird paying for it. Yeah, it’s that happening. It’s cool.

Lightning (1h 30m 15s):

Hey, sure. Send me an email. You’ll, you’ll divergent my inbox.

Holman (1h 30m 19s):

Send me the email or CC’d me when you send one to Lightning so I make sure that it gets on the air. It’ll get on the air. Okay. Just

Lightning (1h 30m 24s):

Saying. Yeah. lightning@truckshowpodcast.com. But if it’s a general inquiry and you want to get on the air

Holman (1h 30m 29s):

Truck show podcast gmail.com for now, or 6 5 7 2 0 5 61 0 5, you can leave us a message on the five star hotline. Ah,

Lightning (1h 30m 35s):

It’s too much information.

Holman (1h 30m 37s):

You just listen. You know, if you stop interrupting, you can go home soon. Oh, okay. All right. We, we love Nissan Trucks. Thank you again. Nissan for the loan of the Nissan Titan xd, which is taking us all over the place. We have used Ezer Studio, we’ve hauled a bunch of stuff, we’ve towed with it. It’s been phenomenal. Platinum Reserve things. Awesome. Nissan usa.com.

Lightning (1h 30m 55s):

We’ve used it as a studio.

Holman (1h 30m 56s):

We literally, it was that quiet. I, I’m still amazed when I listened to the first episode that we did it. It doesn’t sound that much different than the other, except for the occasional blinker sound.

Lightning (1h 31m 4s):

There’s a different tone.

Holman (1h 31m 5s):

Yeah, but it’s quiet. It’s still quiet. Yeah. Very quiet. Yeah, that’s a great truck. Nissan usa.com or head down to your local Nissan dealer where you can check out the Nissan Titan. And of course, we also have to thank Banks power because we are sitting in bank conference room while at pours rain outside because we have no home right now, but we will soon.

Lightning (1h 31m 21s):

That’s true, that’s true. One of Gale Bank’s favorite inventions is called the ID dash. There are two flavors of the ID dash, the ID dash data monster and ID dash Super Cage. They’re identical with the addition of data logging. That’s data recording. And the data monster. If you’re looking for an incredibly powerful diagnostic tool, it’s the ID dash fits in any vehicle you have. It’s only 52 millimeters. It’s small round and displays hundreds of points of data. Go to banks power.com to check out your

Holman (1h 31m 50s):

I dash. Wanna see something funny? Sure. I was on Motor Trend site cause I was getting news and this popped up.

Lightning (1h 31m 57s):

That’s a picture of holding

Holman (1h 31m 59s):

No, it’s a, a video.

Lightning (1h 31m 59s):

Oh, that’s a video.

Holman (1h 32m 0s):

It’s a still frame of me hosting a video for Motor Trend. Even though

Lightning (1h 32m 5s):

You’re not there anymore.

Holman (1h 32m 6s):

I’m not there anymore.

Lightning (1h 32m 6s):

Well’s just like this podcast. You don’t own your image? No. In many cases.

Holman (1h 32m 11s):

No. I just think it’s funny. I’m not mad about it. I just, I’m like, Hey, I wonder if that guy’s credible. He doesn’t work here anymore. No,

Lightning (1h 32m 16s):

He’s not.

Holman (1h 32m 17s):

He’s not. Yes, he is. He is.

Lightning (1h 32m 19s):


Holman (1h 32m 20s):

Oh, all right. We also have to thank Derek and the crew over at Full Moon Digital who are helping us get our socials all squared away and helping us with our marketing. So kudos to those guys. Full moon digital.com. If you’ve got a small company, a medium size company, or even a big company, and you are looking for help to grow, you want to go see Derrick at Full Moon Digital.

Lightning (1h 32m 37s):

So what they do is they can build a complete ad campaign for you, whether it’s YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. They can build and monitor all of your ads and increase your revenue, which is what I hope they do for us.

Holman (1h 32m 52s):

Any revenue would be good revenue at

Lightning (1h 32m 54s):

This point. Anything better? I mean, we’re zero. So

Holman (1h 32m 57s):

We’re actually going backwards. Let me tell you. Oh,

Lightning (1h 32m 59s):

Yeah, yeah. Well, you, we spending

Holman (1h 33m 1s):

Money, guys, listen, as soon as the please,

Lightning (1h 33m 2s):

You’re like my wife or Louis Vuitton

Holman (1h 33m 5s):

Store. I don’t want, I don’t wanna beg right now, but as soon as the the, the store goes live, please buy t-shirts. At least give us something because

Lightning (1h 33m 12s):

Don’t beg, don’t beg. They’re not gonna respond to that. What they’ll respond to is, this is the greatest shirt we’ve ever created. It’s the best structural podcast shirt that we have ever produced. That’s what they want to hear. Okay. They wanna hear excitement and us just, just drooling over these designs. Yeah. So we have to

Holman (1h 33m 29s):

When we create them first. Yeah. Right. And then set up a store and website.

Lightning (1h 33m 33s):

No, that’s happening

Holman (1h 33m 34s):

Down there. And then we go to, then we’ll go to Patreon.

Lightning (1h 33m 36s):

No, we’re not going to Patreon.

Holman (1h 33m 37s):

Yeah, because it’s gonna fail miserably when we

Lightning (1h 33m 39s):

We’re not going to Petron. Our stuff is free. All right.

Holman (1h 33m 42s):

Free, free, free for our shirts. I’m sure it’ll

Lightning (1h 33m 44s):

Not be free for the stuff you have to pay.

Holman (1h 33m 46s):

All right. On that note, thanks guys. This is episode four, season two. Again, love you. We appreciate all of you guys and oh, gotta thank Rich one last time for getting us one step closer to the pod shed. So we’re getting there. I think the next episode’s gonna be the one, probably

Lightning (1h 34m 1s):


Holman (1h 34m 2s):

I think Yeah. See you

Lightning (1h 34m 4s):

Then. Just remember,

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Thanks for watching and remember, everything Matters.

Lightning (1h 34m 10s):

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My brain is malfunctioning.